How can we make buses safer?

Riddle101

Serious question this one. Don't you just hate getting on a bus late in the night and some jerk starts going off on eveyrone and starting fights. My Irish teacher last year told me(and the class) about how rough the bus he used to get home was. He talked about this one guy who got on the bus and started punching everyone, eventually someone had enough and managed to throw the guy off. I also remember a news report a few years ago where a Chinese lad was thrown off the top of a 77 or 77A, well he was thorn out the back on the second floor of the double decker. Anyway, it's a real annoyance to have these little cnuts coming onto buses and causing trouble and i realise it's gonna be difficult but do you think there might be away to make the buses safer. Those security cameras are not very good and the bus driver has enough on his plate as it is with driving the bus. I really think this is a problem that needs to be addressed

Ass

You could just try and stop being a pussy.

Mena

My advice is this:

Get a proper job and get a car. Let the skangers take the public transport.

FOGOFUNK

**** buses man. Car it up.

The_B_Man

i remember that bloke gettin thrown off the bus in tallaght. was comin home from work and saw the bus pulled in at the square bus stop, so ran for it thinkin it was in service. got up closer and saw all the police tape, then the blood all over the place! nasty.

but ye, sit downstairs if ur that worried.

Ass

The only unpleasant things I've been subject to on Dublin Bus are when people I know that I have no intention of keeping in touch with get on and sit near me (People who I wouldn't necessarily have been best buddies with when I was in school, etc.). I usually end up blanking them usually resulting in an awkward awareness of each others presence on the bus.

I'd be all for stopping that shit.

BKtje

Never ever had a problem on any bus i've ever been on. Guess the 46A(N) and 7(n) just don't attract that type of client

The Gnome

A few of these lads up the back?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0kWgcIlWn0

OPENROAD

The following is being introduced in London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7678855.stm

Nichololas

Yeah don't bother with the bus just take the 46A

Gran Hermano

Buses : Transport for proles

It's loike 'public' transport, no thanks

Dyr

Bus drivers who did their job would be a start

Dave!

Only problem I've had on buses is people smoking.

The joke's on them though, because my sneezing fits leave all my airborne germs floating around.

They'll finish their smoke, then 10 years later, BAM! Herpes.

Run_to_da_hills

OPENROAD wrote: »

The following is being introduced in London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7678855.stm

All the Dublin Busse's Alexander's Vivio 400 and 500's which are similar to those in london have 7 on board fisheye CCTV's 4 upstairs and 3 below, although they are not live it would not take much to hook them up to a 3G broadband system (Also used for on board WIFI ) and transmit them live to a central office which could be monitored by both DB and the Gardai.

When the registered smart card comes into full effect vandalism and acting the maggot will be almost down to nill. "Sorry mate, your banned from travel on Dublin Bus for 2 months according to your smart card records for having your feet on the seats on the 7X at 02.07 hours on 07/10/11".

Ruu_Old

The buses in my town in central Illinois are award winning. Quick and efficient, the bus drivers don't take any lip either. You're out on your backside if there is even a hint of trouble(I noticed it recently and it was an elderly woman who was turfed out). Yep I would say the bus drivers need to do more.

gurramok

To make buses safer, ban UCD students?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055402665

OPENROAD

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

When the registered smart card comes into full effect vandalism and acting the maggot will be almost down to nill. "Sorry mate, your banned from travel on Dublin Bus for 2 months according to your smart card records".

Is that like the Oyster card in London?

Run_to_da_hills

OPENROAD wrote: »

Is that like the Oyster card in London?

Yes, same thing different name, The Dublin Bus smart card is only a prepayed disposable card, it defeats the whole purpose of a smart card but never the less it has opened the door for this technology. Give it time and it will eventually become registered with a photo ID.

Just like the London system they will offer some kind of a "carrot" to persuade you to register your card like discounted travel and daily capped fares :rolleyes:.

MagicMarker

I used the infamous 77 bus for years and never had a problem. In saying that, i don't envy that particular buses driver.

dfx-

Dublin Bus is fine. The 'notorious' 77 is ok except for the harmless infrequent oddballs of all routes..

However the passengers of the fortnightly 16A bus window smashing on Dorset St might proffer a differing opinion.

towel401

buses are freaking unsafe now? every couple of years a few people get killed by them causing a huge public outcry which will end up being used as an excuse to push for some more ridiculous, far fetched safety regulations. but really buses are quite safe

anyone remember when they covered up a question on the leaving cert that mentioned a school bus a few weeks after one crashed?

Stercus Accidit

Riddle101 wrote: »

Serious question this one. Don't you just hate getting on a bus late in the night and some jerk starts going off on eveyrone and starting fights. My Irish teacher last year told me(and the class) about how rough the bus he used to get home was. He talked about this one guy who got on the bus and started punching everyone, eventually someone had enough and managed to throw the guy off. I also remember a news report a few years ago where a Chinese lad was thrown off the top of a 77 or 77A, well he was thorn out the back on the second floor of the double decker. Anyway, it's a real annoyance to have these little cnuts coming onto buses and causing trouble and i realise it's gonna be difficult but do you think there might be away to make the buses safer. Those security cameras are not very good and the bus driver has enough on his plate as it is with driving the bus. I really think this is a problem that needs to be addressed

Mate of mine, not chinese, and got a few grand off dublin bus for his trouble.

Oh how we laughed.

When the full body cast was off him.

MagicMarker

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Mate of mine, not chinese, and got a few grand off dublin bus for his trouble.

Oh how we laughed.

When the full body cast was off him.

I don't get it, did the bus driver throw him out the window or something?

brendansmith

square wheels?:o

Stercus Accidit

MagicMarker wrote: »

I don't get it, did the bus driver throw him out the window or something?

No.

Mark200

Mena wrote: »

My advice is this:

Get a proper job and get a car. Let the skangers take the public transport.

Well most people get nitelinks because they have been drinking, so a car wouldn't be an option whether you owned one or not.

Run_to_da_hills

Mark200 wrote: »

Well most people get nitelinks because they have been drinking, so a car wouldn't be an option whether you owned one or not.

Thats what taxi's are for. :pac:

BaconZombie

Ban all D4 and D4 wannabes.

Edit: All we need to ban all the free loading OAP's as well, they get free travel and also all the good seats

luckat

So that's where all those AH bigots hang out.

stovelid

I got the 77, 50 and 65b for years and didn't see as much trouble as people imagine. Few incidents a year tops. Avoid upstairs and the seats right beside the driver. Best place to sit would be beyond the stairs on the lower deck.

Better still: walk small distances instead of being a fat cnut and getting the bus.

phenomenon

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

So I became an Oxfam tracksuit-wearing skanger who sits at the back of the bus all day drinking cans and reading the metro just to intimidate people before they can intimidate me.

Wagon

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Thats what taxi's are for. :pac:

Nt all of us can afford them and besides, even if we could at the time, the odds of getting one in the city centre at a weekend are very slim, regardless of how sober you look. Every pub closes at the same feckin time (ironic results for the nanny state) and a load of people are out on the streets at once looking for transport. Sometimes, the bus is the only way to go

Ive only ever had one really close call that could have landed me in hospital, and thats when i got off the bus after work one evening (the great 77) and was walking away alongside the bus when some **** threw a glass bottle at me from the upper deck. Missed by inches and smashed on the ground behind me. Course, i couldn't ever catch him because he was already pulling away with all his mates on the bus. Pack of ****.

Mark200

Wagon wrote: »

Nt all of us can afford them and besides, even if we could at the time, the odds of getting one in the city centre at a weekend are very slim, regardless of how sober you look. Every pub closes at the same feckin time (ironic results for the nanny state) and a load of people are out on the streets at once looking for transport. Sometimes, the bus is the only way to go

Ive only ever had one really close call that could have landed me in hospital, and thats when i got off the bus after work one evening (the great 77) and was walking away alongside the bus when some **** threw a glass bottle at me from the upper deck. Missed by inches and smashed on the ground behind me. Course, i couldn't ever catch him because he was already pulling away with all his mates on the bus. Pack of ****.

You should have called up Dublin Bus to see if they had CCTV on that bus. Lucky escape though

Kensington

Never had a problem with Dublin Bus really. Only had two "incidents" in the past three years - one on the 150 where some gob****es started chucking bangers at the door of the bus when it stopped along by Dolphin's barn. Another on the 50 where they started smashing bottles of miller all over the place because the driver kicked them off when they travelled as far as their fare would allow. Never had any trouble on the 77.

And there's no better way to get home drunk than the Nitelink - busload of locked people upstairs, the lyrics to a few dubliners songs and you're in for a great trip home :pac:

Dave! wrote:

Only problem I've had on buses is people smoking.

The joke's on them though, because my sneezing fits leave all my airborne germs floating around.

They'll finish their smoke, then 10 years later, BAM! Herpes.

Note to self: Find out what bus Dave frequents and then never, ever take it........

Mark200

I've taken the nitelink (42N) three or four times in the last few months. Never had any problems really, actually had good craic on them upstairs with friends.

The first one I ever got though, we sat downstairs and as we were going through the Coolock/Darndale area (of course) we heard a huge bang, and then a few seconds later we heard glass moving all around upstairs. The bus driver pulled over after a minute or two and went upstairs. At this stage we didn't really know what happened, we thought maybe someone dropped loads of beer bottles or something. One guy followed the bus driver down the stairs and he sat downstairs instead.

It wasn't until we got off and looked at the bus and saw a huge hole on the side of one of the top windows....obviously someone had thrown a brick or something at it. It could have been very serious if someone happened to be sitting beside that window at the time

Rozabeez

I expected this to be a thread on the likes of seatbelts and limiting the amount of standing passengers... surely that's how buses should be made safer?

Someone smoking/playing music/acting the knack on a bus would be the least of my worries if there was a crash and a few dozen bodies were thrown around that long rectangular space...deathtraps!

thefinalstage

Rozabeez wrote: »

acting the knack

LOl, dublinised already

Wagon

Mark200 wrote: »

You should have called up Dublin Bus to see if they had CCTV on that bus. Lucky escape though

Probably should have in retrospect, but it was a few years ago now.

Rozabeez wrote: »

I expected this to be a thread on the likes of seatbelts and limiting the amount of standing passengers... surely that's how buses should be made safer?

Someone smoking/playing music/acting the knack on a bus would be the least of my worries if there was a crash and a few dozen bodies were thrown around that long rectangular space...deathtraps!

Buses are big and heavy and limited to certain speeds. They fare better than most vehicles on dublin's roads. Also, drivers are pretty good too. So your more at risk from the one ****head who gets on.

AnonoBoy

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Thats what taxi's are for. :pac:

But what about the tracking chips taxi drivers pass out under the guise of 'receipts'?????? :eek:

AnonoBoy

BOFH_139 wrote: »

All we need to ban all the free loading OAP's as well, they get free travel and also all the good seats

Hopefully the government will take their travel passes off them. Can't see any hassle stemming from that. Nope.

mickdw

Make buses smaller so that they only transport yourself and a friend or two at any time. Allow them to park at a know location in the city and then you simply walk up to one and tell the driver where to take you. Get rid of all the big buses so that these new buses can really make good use of the bus lanes. This service would cost more than the current bus system but with all the subsidies the bus company gets from government, it might work out cheap!

Rozabeez

thelastangryman wrote: »

LOl, dublinised already

You mean I didn't just make that term up? Sad now.

Canis Lupus

Leave Dublin, it's a terrible hole of a place anyway, then wall in the scum that remains and leave them to their own devices.

A bit like the movie, it should only take them 28 Days till McD and BK run out of food and they'll all starve to death.