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Admin decision is final? Regardless?

  • 20-10-2008 7:31pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭


    So there I was posting some feedback in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055402635 and it got locked tighter than a ducks ass doing a grub dive in a pond.

    Is that the way it is? An Admins decision is final even if it is open to question? I don't think DeV or Cloud would have thought boards would be like that back in the day. Clamping down on feedback for no reason bar an Admins Decision is final? Even the yanks have a system were questions can be asked.

    Sure, remove medical cards. Those in charge made the decision. No one question it. Gas Jews. The people in power made the call and their decision is final.

    Sad day, so Martin Niemollers ghost says :(

    One day it could be you but I'd say Mike65 will get it before ya.
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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    I don't think DeV or Cloud would have thought boards would be like that back in the day.

    In June?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    You didn't even get banned what's the problem? And you godwined in the first post, is that a record?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    I dunno-i cringe that i agree somewhat with daithi of all people. *washes skin. They don't make water hot enough!* but i dunno. The whole adblock thing. Meh. I get why cult did it,dunno if it was entirely fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    If the Admins don't have the final decision who does?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    You didn't even get banned what's the problem? And you godwined in the first post, is that a record?

    There is no problem. Unless asking a question is seen as one these days. I am providing feedback on feedback.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Fight teh Powah!

    Their site, their rules.

    EDIT: wasn't there a Fight teh Powah boards.ie gathering card?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    Hagar wrote: »
    If the Admins don't have the final decision who does?

    Good question Hagar. Perhaps the people who keep the site alive? I doubt it would be much of a site with just the 6 or 7 of them posting.

    Given their love of politics and the power of the people, it is an interesting conundrum tbh. No one minds an admins decision being final if it is justified and right or at least explaind well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Admin can do what they like .... and like 99% of active posters I've no problem with that.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Those in charge made the decision. No one question it. Gas Jews. The people in power made the call and their decision is final.

    You're comparing getting banned from an internet forum to the holocaust? Man, that's retarded.
    I doubt it would be much of a site with just the 6 or 7 of them posting.

    It wouldn't be much of a site if there was no ad revenue. Although I do agree that banning someone for using adblock/recommending ad block is something that shouldn't be done, it's not me losing out on the ad revenue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Why would you have a section for feedback and then lock a thread so fast? If you don't want questions asked then why ask for them with this forum?

    Id also like to know, while Im at it, would feedback be the appropriate forum for posters to offer their reviews of moderators modding styles?

    And as far as sitewide bans, I dont know what overheal did, but maybe he should call for a sitewide boycott and watch your revenues plumett.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    6th wrote: »
    Admin can do what they like .... and like 99% of active posters I've no problem with that.

    yeah,but wasn't overheal banned for talking about adblock? Cult could have just explained that ads are important so boards gets money,but that the owners don't mind people using adblock to stop ads the break/slow down their access. Which is what Dev has said before if i'm not mistake. He could have banned overheal from feedback instead of the entire site (which makes no sense). Still,it is the owners site. Its just a bit messy i guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    No one minds an admins decision being final if it is justified and right or at least explaind well.

    Actually ad this to the list:

    if it is justified and right or at least explaind well or for funny.


    Some people need a smack sometimes even if they arent breaking any rules.

    Admins can do what they like, even turn a blind eye when site banned posters return with a new username.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Hagar wrote: »
    If the Admins don't have the final decision who does?

    God , Buda and Spongebob


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    So there I was posting some feedback in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055402635 and it got locked tighter than a ducks ass doing a grub dive in a pond.

    Is that the way it is? An Admins decision is final even if it is open to question? I don't think DeV or Cloud would have thought boards would be like that back in the day. Clamping down on feedback for no reason bar an Admins Decision is final? Even the yanks have a system were questions can be asked.

    Sure, remove medical cards. Those in charge made the decision. No one question it. Gas Jews. The people in power made the call and their decision is final.

    Sad day, so Martin Niemollers ghost says :(

    One day it could be you but I'd say Mike65 will get it before ya.

    Ouch, godwins law. You fail. So close.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    6th wrote: »
    Admin can do what they like .... and like 99% of active posters I've no problem with that.

    I am singing from the same book 6th. It would be better for all to get rid of the pretence that it is not that way? Better to make it clear than an Admin can do whatever they want, regardless of the community.

    I'd be happier under that remit too.

    So would Martin Niemollers ghost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    And as far as sitewide bans, I dont know what overheal did, but maybe he should call for a sitewide boycott and watch your revenues plumett.

    People like complaining, were your plans falls down though is the fact that no one cares enough to do anything about it.

    Gwan metrovelvet, why not refuse to login til Overheal is back? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I don't get it, he was temp site banned for talking about some kind of adblock? Seems a bit harsh doesn't it? Did he get a warning or anything? Surely he not the only user ever to talk about adblock on boards.ie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    6th wrote: »
    People like complaining, were your plans falls down though is the fact that no one cares enough to do anything about it.

    Gwan metrovelvet, why not refuse to login til Overheal is back? :pac:

    One day people will care enough.

    Mark my words. :) I think the Admins on boards do a great Job but that does not stop me saying what I think. The Overheal siteban is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Better to make it clear than an Admin can do whatever they want, regardless of the community.

    Regardless of the community? Tosh.

    You take away the edge that each individual admins personality brings to this site and you're left with just another discussion forum.

    Look at April fools day on Boards.ie - absolute abuse of power but funny as f0ok!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    I don't get it, he was temp site banned for talking about some kind of adblock? Seems a bit harsh doesn't it? Did he get a warning or anything? Surely he not the only user ever to talk about adblock on boards.ie?

    they've said the reason they don't like it,is because they need ads for extra income,which is fair enough. Its ok to use adblock if its a glitched ad thats timing out the page or whatever,but not subscribing and blocking ads hurts the site,again fair enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I don't get it, he was temp site banned for talking about some kind of adblock? Seems a bit harsh doesn't it? Did he get a warning or anything? Surely he not the only user ever to talk about adblock on boards.ie?

    Overheal brings it up a fair bit.

    It just seems ungreatful to use this site and then promote ways to stop cash coming in.

    People who use this site for free will complain about this ban saying Overheal did noothing wrong. Then they'll complain when the site is down for an hour.

    They complain but they need this a place.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Overheal is site banned now?
    I thought he was a pretty nice guy. Hope they let him back in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Nerin wrote: »
    they've said the reason they don't like it,is because they need ads for extra income,which is fair enough. Its ok to use adblock if its a glitched ad thats timing out the page or whatever,but not subscribing and blocking ads hurts the site,again fair enough.
    Yeah, that's all good, but overheal seems like he'd understand that if it was said to him, unless i'm mistaken?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    One day people will care enough.

    No. They wont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Overheal is site banned now?
    I thought he was a pretty nice guy. Hope they let him back in.

    Its only a temp ban.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Overheal is site banned now?
    I thought he was a pretty nice guy. Hope they let him back in.

    Its just a temp ban. He linked to firefox add-on for blocking ads so Cult thanked him with a ban.


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Do the ads only generate revenue on clicks, or just by loading on the page?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Overheal is banned?

    Now who is going to create the poll for this weeks episode of Heroes? Did they for one moment stop and think about that?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Ah well. Seems fair enough. Sher he'll be let back, he is aware and nobody else will do it. But still it is a pity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    6th wrote: »
    People like complaining, were your plans falls down though is the fact that no one cares enough to do anything about it.

    Gwan metrovelvet, why not refuse to login til Overheal is back? :pac:

    Or everybody can turn on their adblockers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    6th wrote: »
    Regardless of the community? Tosh.

    You take away the edge that each individual admins personality brings to this site and you're left with just another discussion forum.

    Look at April fools day on Boards.ie - absolute abuse of power but funny as f0ok!

    The Admins, like much of the world took the p1ss on April fool’s day? Jaysus that is unheard of!! Using you power for fun is not seen as a bad think. Using it to push your own agenda or for personal reasons is seen as bad. Can you see that?

    Anyway this is a useless debate as Berutial will be locking that thread. Otherwise she would look inconsistent and I just worry about Mike65 :(

    Hang in there buddy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    what's going on with mike65?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin



    The Admins, like much of the world took the p1ss on April fool’s day? Jaysus that is unheard of!! Using you power for fun is not seen as a bad think. Using it to push your own agenda or for personal reasons is seen as bad. Can you see that?

    Anyway this is a useless debate as Berutial will be locking that thread. Otherwise she would look inconsistent and I just worry about Mike65 :(

    Hang in there buddy!

    wow,you're great a sabotaging your own arguement...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    what's going on with mike65?

    The Knives are out.....

    Just my personal opinion mind. My opinion is retarded for the record.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    Nerin wrote: »
    wow,you're great a sabotaging your own arguement...

    mum? :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    My opinion is retarded for the record.
    Duly noted. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    eVeNtInE wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    He has teh ghey, brought on from posting his username at the end of each post. A tragedy that could have been avoided tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Newsflash: admins can be spiteful bastards if they want. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭takola


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Newsflash: admins can be spiteful bastards if they want. :)

    Why can't I thank you?

    +1... Get over it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    takola wrote: »
    Why can't I thank you?

    +1... Get over it.
    Careful, the last person that asked me that was...Overheal.

    /just sayin'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    6th wrote: »
    People who use this site for free will complain about this ban saying Overheal did noothing wrong. Then they'll complain when the site is down for an hour.
    .

    As much as I considered it (in truth, not much). I also thought the site ban was a bit harsh - assuming that a warning wasn't given and there are not other factors - and I was a little surprised to see it.

    I subscribe, and I don't complain when the site is down btw.I don't see the subscription as payment that I expect good service (or no ads) for. Just a voluntary donation back because I get a lot out of boards.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Teacups always look silly when there are storms in them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    FREE THE OVERHEAL 1

    oh wait no I don't care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    He'll probably claim it was racism when he comes back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    That's what you get for voting for Bush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    I can't decide if the ban was harsh or completely called for. Either way it's only a week, and he'll be back next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭oleras


    6th wrote: »

    Look at April fools day on Boards.ie - absolute abuse of power but funny as f0ok!

    The first time i saw it yes.........Do you go to be giddy as a schoolgirl every March 31st now 6th ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    So there I was posting some feedback in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055402635 and it got locked tighter than a ducks ass doing a grub dive in a pond.

    Jaysus, Fingers, after your brush with near oblivion on boards.., I thought you'd have the sense to keep the head down for a while.

    Oh well, I guess Darwin was right after all..:pac:


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    I can't decide if the ban was harsh or completely called for. Either way it's only a week, and he'll be back next week.

    it was the first one.


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