FREE the WEED

Toiletroll

In my opinion, we (Irish) really need to look at legalising the weed to some extent.

We waste millions upon millions on a war that will never be won when we could be raking it in from the taxes on selling weed and freeing up the garda to deal with real criminals.

It suits us anyway! ireland is GREEN

Even Canada & USA are seeing the light... Come on Government, 8C on fuel which will make everything else go up in price? Clever clever, oh so clever... Why not legalise weed and REDUCE the price of fuel...

http://gizmodo.com/348628/marijuana-vending-machines-opening-for-business-in-la

faceman

"...and what better and innovative new way to start my campaign to legalise drugs which fuel criminal and terrorist activity around the world, by putting a post up on After Hours on boards."

AARRRGH

It will never be legalised as too many people (i.e. Gardai, Customs Officers) would lose their job. The drug industry is an industry for everyone - from dealer to Garda.

Personally I'd rather we had less drugged people on our streets, so I'm in support of stricter drug controls.

Toiletroll

I would support any notion to make alcohol illegal... as its more harmfull that most drugs! Wake up sir!

Also, weed opens your mind!

Aside from that... They only fuel criminals BECAUSE they are illegal you silly fool. If they were legal then criminals would not be able to profit from it. Wake up SIR

AARRRGH

Toiletroll wrote: »

I would support any notion to make alcohol illegal... as its more harmfull that most drugs! Wake up sir!

Yawn. Everyone knows this.

But what are we going to do - close down the breweries? Never going to happen, so you can forget about it.

Toiletroll wrote: »

Aside from that... They only fuel criminals BECAUSE they are illegal you silly fool. If they were legal then criminals would not be able to profit from it. Wake up SIR

No ****. But I would rather a few scumbag criminals making some money and killing each other than a country full of stoners.

jim o doom

AARRRGH wrote: »

It will never be legalised as too many people (i.e. Gardai, Customs Officers) would lose their job. The drug industry is an industry for everyone - from dealer to Garda.

Personally I'd rather we had less drugged people on our streets, so I'm in support of stricter drug controls.

When you say less people on drugs, do you mean ALL drugs, legal drugs (like nicotine & alcohol or antidepressants or ritalin or any of the other plethora or drugs which doctors can easily prescribe - doctor i am scared of flying but must fly! here are some valium my friend) or only illegal drugs. Also - you do realise that despite the even more massive funding and the VERY strict laws on drugs in the USA there are LARGE amounts of strung out crack & crank junkies walking the streets in pretty much every major us city? yeah because LAWS stop drug users using drugs.

Karoma

Toiletroll wrote: »

I would support any notion to make alcohol illegal... as its more harmfull that most drugs! Wake up sir!

Hypocrite. Freeeedommmm!
"more harmfull" so you accept that weed is harmfull?[sic] So your argument is that we should legalise it because it's not as "harmfull"? That's clever. Go to the Dáil with that.

Also, weed opens your mind!

Too bad the output is incoherent drivel...that...wait...

Aside from that... They only fuel criminals BECAUSE they are illegal you silly fool. If they were legal then criminals would not be able to profit from it. Wake up SIR

Surely there'd still be a market for cheaper tax-free drugs?

humanji

Toiletroll wrote: »

I would support any notion to make alcohol illegal... as its more harmfull that most drugs! Wake up sir!

Also, weed opens your mind!

Aside from that... They only fuel criminals BECAUSE they are illegal you silly fool. If they were legal then criminals would not be able to profit from it. Wake up SIR

If they were legal, they'd be taxed to f*ck and the criminals would still thrive by selling it illegally.


And since this thread will no doubt go the same route as all other drug related thread, can we make it interesting by banning anyone who makes comparisons to other legal drugs, anyone who brings nazis into it and anyone who uses the letter "e"?

AARRRGH

jim o doom wrote: »

When you say less people on drugs, do you mean ALL drugs, legal drugs (like nicotine & alcohol or antidepressants or ritalin or any of the other plethora or drugs which doctors can easily prescribe - doctor i am scared of flying but must fly! here are some valium my friend) or only illegal drugs.

Well we're not talking about prescription drugs, but my personal opinion is that too many people are on prescription drugs (for example, they'd rather take a slimming pill then go for a jog) because they're too lazy to deal with their problems.

jim o doom wrote: »

Also - you do realise that despite the even more massive funding and the VERY strict laws on drugs in the USA there are LARGE amounts of strung out crack & crank junkies walking the streets in pretty much every major us city? yeah because LAWS stop drug users using drugs.

The US has huge poverty which doesn't exist in Ireland, so you can't really compare Ireland with the US.

The only way to combat drug use is to put users in prison.

jim o doom

AARRRGH wrote: »

No ****. But I would rather a few scumbag criminals making some money and killing each other than a country full of stoners.

YEah have you actually been to any countries where they have legal marijuana (holland) or are tolerant towards it (canada) - those countries are NOT full of "stoners" as you put it. Most Dutch don't smoke weed at all - it increases tourism in the country, and the streets are full of NORMAL people who don't use drugs. How did you come to the bizarre idea that the country would be suddenly MORE full of wasters than it already is? the people who don't use it because they don't agree with it arn't suddenly going to change their minds on it because it's legal all of a sudden, just like most of the adult population of the netherlands.

stovelid

When you're bunking off lectures for a smoke, Trisha or QVC, with a packet of Lidl bourbon creams, is a far better bet than starting embarrassing AH threads, OP. Think of the cache...

jim o doom

AARRRGH wrote: »

Well we're not talking about prescription drugs, but my personal opinion is that too many people are on prescription drugs (for example, they'd rather take a slimming pill then go for a jog) because they're too lazy to deal with their problems.

IN essence I agree with you on this point - but as for your second point re jailing drug users - I think we have enough of a police state in this country already - and I think jail should be reserved for those who harm OTHER people. But if you think some harmless wasters should be jailed, you are entitled to your opinion, regardless of how insane it seems to me.

AARRRGH

jim o doom wrote: »

YEah have you actually been to any countries where they have legal marijuana (holland) or are tolerant towards it (canada) - those countries are NOT full of "stoners" as you put it. Most Dutch don't smoke weed at all - it increases tourism in the country, and the streets are full of NORMAL people who don't use drugs. How did you come to the bizarre idea that the country would be suddenly MORE full of wasters than it already is? the people who don't use it because they don't agree with it arn't suddenly going to change their minds on it because it's legal all of a sudden, just like most of the adult population of the netherlands.

Again, we are talking about IRELAND.

In Holland do you see drunk people everywhere? No. Why is that? I'll tell you - it's because they don't pursue getting off their heads with a vengence like Irish people do.

Listen - I'm 30. I went through the whole drug thing when I was a teenager - from solvents to cocaine. I stopped doing drugs in my early 20's and decided to make a go of things. My friends who continued using drugs are now very unsuccessful adults. I on the other hand am doing ok for myself.

Drugs are not innocent. It's childish to think they are.

jim o doom

AARRRGH wrote: »

Again, we are talking about IRELAND.

In Holland do you see drunk people everywhere? No. Why is that? I'll tell you - it's because they don't pursue getting off their heads with a vengence like Irish people do.

Listen - I'm 30. I went through the whole drug thing when I was a teenager - from solvents to cocaine. I stopped doing drugs in my early 20's and decided to make a go of things. My friends who continued using drugs are now very unsuccessful adults. I on the other hand am doing ok for myself.

Drugs are not innocent. It's childish to think they are.

Actually people in Holland DO pursue getting off their heads with a vengeance, as do the canadians - I have been to both places and have seen LOADS of locked heads wandering around off their nuts DRUNK - ANY weekend. Do you really think we are so differenty to people in other countries? and by your logic YOU should have been jailed, despite you doing ok for youself, and having used drugs. That jail term could ruin your job prospects and you would be unable to be a "succesful" adult as you so quaintly put it, because society would not let you, due to your "foolish" choices as a younger person.

ccosgrave

"I think we should legalise marijuana in this country, just so potheads have nothing to talk about ever again."

AARRRGH

jim o doom wrote: »

by your logic YOU should have been jailed, despite you doing ok for youself, and having used drugs. That jail term could ruin your job prospects and you would be unable to be a "succesful" adult as you so quaintly put it, because society would not let you, due to your "foolish" choices as a younger person.

Absolutely - if I had of known I could have gone to prison I would have considered drug taking to be something quite uninnocent.

I'll let someone else continue this conversation for me. I couldn't be bothered arguing about something which will never happen. Drugs will never be legalised in Ireland - I win. HAHA!

HIVeindhoven

Another good thing about legalization is that it would drastically reduce the amount of tediuos drug related articles written by the like of OLaf Tyrensen and that Ian Wankbag in the Irish Indo, cant remember his name.

Kimbot

AARRRGH wrote: »

It will never be legalised as too many people (i.e. Gardai, Customs Officers) would lose their job. The drug industry is an industry for everyone - from dealer to Garda.

I would like to know how Gardai and Custom Officers would lose their jobs if Weed was legalised?

The way I see it more gardai can be put to solving proper crimes and customs will always be needed because Weed isn't the only drug coming into the country so on those 2 fronts there will be no job losses.

ejmaztec

HIVeindhoven wrote: »

Another good thing about legalization is that it would drastically reduce the amount of tediuos drug related articles written by the like of OLaf Tyrensen and that Ian Wankbag in the Irish Indo, cant remember his name.

Isn't memory one of the casualties?

AARRRGH

jonny24ie wrote: »

I would like to know how Gardai and Custom Officers would lose their jobs if Weed was legalised?

I phrased it badly - sorry. What I meant was there are too many vested interests in the drug trade - for example, Gardai and Customs departments who specialise in fighting drugs. They would never allow something like hash to be legalised.

Kimbot

AARRRGH wrote: »

I phrased it badly - sorry. What I meant was there are too many vested interests in the drug trade - for example, Gardai and Customs departments who specialise in fighting drugs. They would never allow something like hash to be legalised.

I think it would make thier job easier as they have less to screen for etc.

The_Minister

jim o doom wrote: »

Actually people in Holland DO pursue getting off their heads with a vengeance, as do the canadians - I have been to both places and have seen LOADS of locked heads wandering around off their nuts DRUNK - ANY weekend. Do you really think we are so differenty to people in other countries?

Sorry, but I'm calling shenanigans on this.
Drinking with Canadian's is like being at an accountants wake.
The Dutch are just nuts, and they do drink, but we spend three times more than them on drink, and we spend a huge amount more on spirits.
Cite: http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_10006077.shtml
And that was back in 1999, our consumption has rocketed since.

And btw, the tourism you mentioned above is a BAD thing. Holland doesn't like it.

anonymous_joe

jim o doom wrote: »

YEah have you actually been to any countries where they have legal marijuana (holland) or are tolerant towards it (canada) - those countries are NOT full of "stoners" as you put it. Most Dutch don't smoke weed at all - it increases tourism in the country, and the streets are full of NORMAL people who don't use drugs. How did you come to the bizarre idea that the country would be suddenly MORE full of wasters than it already is? the people who don't use it because they don't agree with it arn't suddenly going to change their minds on it because it's legal all of a sudden, just like most of the adult population of the netherlands.

Coffee shops full of tourists getting blasted out of their minds, and all teh ancillary things that go with it... Lovely. I don't ever want to see Dublin end up like that place.

AARRRGH wrote: »

Again, we are talking about IRELAND.

In Holland do you see drunk people everywhere? No. Why is that? I'll tell you - it's because they don't pursue getting off their heads with a vengence like Irish people do.

Listen - I'm 30. I went through the whole drug thing when I was a teenager - from solvents to cocaine. I stopped doing drugs in my early 20's and decided to make a go of things. My friends who continued using drugs are now very unsuccessful adults. I on the other hand am doing ok for myself.

Drugs are not innocent. It's childish to think they are.

Have you been to Holland? They're a nation of piss artists, same as us. This is a nation that's only religions are beer and hating each other. Well that and growing Islam, but that's a completely different issue and one they don't like either. :pac:

Seriously, legalised weed has done nothing good for the Netherlands. But not because of a drug problem, mainly because of the tourists and the unemployable types who sit around all day getting high and often enough getitng in a bit of trouble. Oh and for those who say people who are high don't cause trouble, sadly, indirectly, they do, because there are plenty of people willing ot take advantage of those who are somewhat away with the fairies.

AARRRGH

jonny24ie wrote: »

I think it would make thier job easier as they have less to screen for etc.

People are more interested in protecting their job/keeping their skills relevant than making their job easier.

It's human nature - you see it all the time - it's called office politics!

thebman

ejmaztec wrote: »

Isn't memory one of the casualties?

I can't remember :pac:

AARRRGH wrote: »

It will never be legalised as too many people (i.e. Gardai, Customs Officers) would lose their job. The drug industry is an industry for everyone - from dealer to Garda.

Personally I'd rather we had less drugged people on our streets, so I'm in support of stricter drug controls.

The guards can start selling it from the evidence room

Seriously though, I don't do it but in favour of legalising it. It is less harmful than other drugs that are legal. You can go on about long term effects but one there isn't enough research and two, the legal drugs available that are worse usually also come with worse side effects or as bad side effects as the stuff.

I think there would be an illegal market still but most people would do the right thing and buy it legally because most people don't like breaking the law. Since people who want to do it are doing it regardless of it being illegal then what is the point in it being illegal? It doesn't stop anything, it is an utterly pointless law.

Saying everyone will be stoners is a stupid suggestion. Fair enough for the first few weeks maybe but you'll find most people won't think it is for them or will get bored of it and it will be the standard stoners you have now that will be doing it but contributing tax to help reduce our deficit instead of funding crime.

I think most people would buy legally as you never know what your getting if buying illegally.

I don't think anyone has any valid reasons for making it illegal. Only scar mongering, illogical or already proven wrong arguments and some side effects that are no worse than other already legal products. None of these are valid reasons for keeping it illegal.

If smokers have to contribute to their healthcare so should stoners

Toiletroll

Alcohol is terrible in my opinion. I am hugely successful in my life so far financially and anything I want I can have, except weed (sometimes). I like to smoke very day because its my ideas that make me money in my life.

I was waiting for someone in a car once before and the DS came along and told us to get out of the car. Then I wouldnt give him the pin number for my iPhone and he took it off me and I have not seen it since (10 months ago). We are already living in a police state so wake up.

I had nothing on me but because we were sitting in a car in a particular estate that was good enough reason for them to take my iphone off me and keep it or whatever they did with it.

I dont drink alcohol because its for MUGS in my opinion...

I sit in smoke weed all day and come up with ways to make money for businesses and it pays me really well! So tell me why I shouldnt be allowed to smoke weed?

thebman

AARRRGH wrote: »

People are more interested in protecting their job/keeping their skills relevant than making their job easier.

It's human nature - you see it all the time - it's called office politics!

There isn't a shortage of crimes, they could all go after pr*cks that refuse to use their indicators on roundabouts or people that break red lights all day in the city.

Toiletroll

brim4brim wrote: »

I can't remember :pac:



The guards can start selling it from the evidence room

Seriously though, I don't do it but in favour of legalising it. It is less harmful than other drugs that are legal. You can go on about long term effects but one there isn't enough research and two, the legal drugs available that are worse usually also come with worse side effects or as bad side effects as the stuff.

I think there would be an illegal market still but most people would do the right thing and buy it legally because most people don't like breaking the law. Since people who want to do it are doing it regardless of it being illegal then what is the point in it being illegal? It doesn't stop anything, it is an utterly pointless law.

Saying everyone will be stoners is a stupid suggestion. Fair enough for the first few weeks maybe but you'll find most people won't think it is for them or will get bored of it and it will be the standard stoners you have now that will be doing it but contributing tax to help reduce our deficit instead of funding crime.

I think most people would buy legally as you never know what your getting if buying illegally.

I don't think anyone has any valid reasons for making it illegal. Only scar mongering, illogical or already proven wrong arguments and some side effects that are no worse than other already legal products. None of these are valid reasons for keeping it illegal.

If smokers have to contribute to their healthcare so should stoners

100% sense! Thank you sir

humanji

Toiletroll wrote: »

Alcohol is terrible in my opinion. I am hugely successful in my life so far financially and anything I want I can have, except weed (sometimes). I like to smoke very day because its my ideas that make me money in my life.

I was waiting for someone in a car once before and the DS came along and told us to get out of the car. Then I wouldnt give him the pin number for my iPhone and he took it off me and I have not seen it since (10 months ago). We are already living in a police state so wake up.

I had nothing on me but because we were sitting in a car in a particular estate that was good enough reason for them to take my iphone off me and keep it or whatever they did with it.

I dont drink alcohol because its for MUGS in my opinion...

I sit in smoke weed all day and come up with ways to make money for businesses and it pays me really well! So tell me why I shouldnt be allowed to smoke weed?

Sounds like you have dependency issues. And trying to rationalise why you need to use drugs is a sign of addiction. And don't bother denying you're an addict, because denial is another sign! Ha, gotcha you baby eating smelly hippie!

Toiletroll

humanji wrote: »

Sounds like you have dependency issues. And trying to rationalise why you need to use drugs is a sign of addiction. And don't bother denying you're an addict, because denial is another sign! Ha, gotcha you baby eating smelly hippie!

You cannot become addicted to weed. Trust me I know the difference. I can go months without weed without issue. F8cuking ciggis is a different story.

So come back when you have a clue dear sir

AARRRGH

brim4brim wrote: »

There isn't a shortage of crimes, they could all go after pr*cks that refuse to use their indicators on roundabouts or people that break red lights all day in the city.

I am absolutely certain the drug squad would be very upset to hear hash is going to be legalised. There is no way they would let it happen - they will lose too much.

Anyway, that's it from me.

Toiletroll

AARRRGH wrote: »

I am absolutely certain the drug squad would be very upset to hear hash is going to be legalised. There is no way they would let it happen - they will lose too much.

Anyway, that's it from me.

hash sucks balls and you might as well smoke elvis records as its pure shi*te and plastic. This is the criminals... I do NOT touch hash... Only the good weed (without glass in it).. from people who grow themselves. But I hate not feeling safe because I have the stuff on me.

For posters above. I dont care about who reads this. I dont feel the need to keep this secret... perhaps you have something to hide my dear man?

You see where I am going with this???

Check this link (pure clean and naturally from the ground without modification):
http://gizmodo.com/348628/marijuana-vending-machines-opening-for-business-in-la

ejmaztec

Toiletroll wrote: »

hash sucks balls and you might as well smoke elvis records as its pure shi*te and plastic. This is the criminals... I do NOT touch hash... Only the good weed (without glass in it).. from people who grow themselves. But I hate not feeling safe because I have the stuff on me.

For posters above. I dont care about who reads this. I dont feel the need to keep this secret... perhaps you have something to hide my dear man?

You see where I am going with this???

Check this link (pure clean and naturally from the ground without modification):
http://gizmodo.com/348628/marijuana-vending-machines-opening-for-business-in-la

Of course some people smoke bullsh1t.

The_Minister

Toiletroll wrote: »

You cannot become addicted to weed. Trust me I know the difference. I can go months without weed without issue. F8cuking ciggis is a different story.

So come back when you have a clue dear sir

*Sigh*
Yes you can.
There is chemical addiction and psycological addiction. Weed can lead to the former, but not the latter, BUT, the latter is the one thats harder to kick.
Thats why you see smokers start smoking again, years after they stopped - they have associations built up in their head, which trigger the desire to smoke.

Addiction isn't all twitching.

humanji

Toiletroll wrote: »

You cannot become addicted to weed. Trust me I know the difference. I can go months without weed without issue. F8cuking ciggis is a different story.

So come back when you have a clue dear sir

Actually, I was kind of joking. But that went right over your head.

And, you can become addicted to anything. The two main types of addiction are chemical and pschological. Weed falls into the second category.

So you dear sir should probably learn a little about the world around you instead of assuming everything you like to do must be grand.

edit: Damn you The_Minister and your l33t Ninja posting skills!

Toiletroll

ejmaztec wrote: »

Of course some people smoke bullsh1t.

Because they have no CHOICE and they have no CHOICE but to fund the criminals.... Lets give people a f*cking choice and not criminalise people who prefer WEED of the ALCOHOL.

I HATE ALCOHOL! Its useless. it renders an individual completely NON productive for its duration and after effects... Weed (in my case) increases my productivity and creativness.

Maybe the people who dont believe that are just bland boring and unimpressive shiites

humanji

Toiletroll wrote: »

Because they have no CHOICE and they have no CHOICE but to fund the criminals.... Lets give people a f*cking choice and not criminalise people who prefer WEED of the ALCOHOL.

I HATE ALCOHOL! Its useless. it renders an individual completely NON productive for its duration and after effects... Weed (in my case) increases my productivity and creativness.

Maybe the people who dont believe that are just bland boring and unimpressive shiites

Or maybe your drug addled mind has been warped by continual abuse?

Toiletroll

humanji wrote: »

Or maybe your drug addled mind has been warped by continual abuse?

Or maybe you are clutching at straws, young man?

The_Minister

Toiletroll, you are falling into the same trap that Luke Flanagan AKA Ming the Merciless falls into:

You are a condescending, ignorant dick.

You have insulted and belittled everyone who has disagreed with you, and you haven't even had the decency (or, far more likely, the capacity) to put some effort or wit into it.

I actually support legalisation (preceded by a education campaign), not because I believe it is safe, but because I think that, similarly to alchohol or cigarettes, the number of people destroyed by it will be small compared to the number of people who will partake in it. The thing is, you are one of the burned-out cretins that I accept will be the collateral damage. And, seeing you desperately flailing around on this thread, unable to come up with better responses than short sporadic insults, because your neurons, fried to the point that each one of the little fellas probably sparks when you rustle tinfoil, cannot do more than let you cough up words like a goldfish's "glop", well, that just makes me wonder if its worth legalising at all.

ejmaztec

Toiletroll wrote: »

Because they have no CHOICE and they have no CHOICE but to fund the criminals.... Lets give people a f*cking choice and not criminalise people who prefer WEED of the ALCOHOL.

I HATE ALCOHOL! Its useless. it renders an individual completely NON productive for its duration and after effects... Weed (in my case) increases my productivity and creativness.

Maybe the people who dont believe that are just bland boring and unimpressive shiites

If a person can't be creative without using drugs, they might as well give up. Trek off down to a drug rehab clinic, see how creative they are.

humanji

Toiletroll wrote: »

Or maybe you are clutching at straws, young man?

Or maybe I'm taking the piss. It's so hard to tell these days. Pay attention to The_Ministers post (#39) as it is a reason why nobody will pay you any attention. And then pay heed to ejmaztec in post #40 as he has a very good point.

There's no real problem with using something like weed for recreational purposes, but when you claim you need it, then there's a problem.

Karoma

The_Minister wrote: »

You are a condescending, ignorant dick.

You have insulted and belittled everyone who has disagreed with you, and you haven't even had the decency (or, far more likely, the capacity) to put some effort or wit into it.

Banned.

Toiletroll

The_Minister wrote: »

Toiletroll, you are falling into the same trap that Luke Flanagan AKA Ming the Merciless falls into:

You are a condescending, ignorant dick.

You have insulted and belittled everyone who has disagreed with you, and you haven't even had the decency (or, far more likely, the capacity) to put some effort or wit into it.

I actually support legalisation (preceded by a education campaign), not because I believe it is safe, but because I think that, similarly to alchohol or cigarettes, the number of people destroyed by it will be small compared to the number of people who will partake in it. The thing is, you are one of the burned-out cretins that I accept will be the collateral damage. And, seeing you desperately flailing around on this thread, unable to come up with better responses than short sporadic insults, because your neurons, fried to the point that each one of the little fellas probably sparks when you rustle tinfoil, cannot do more than let you cough up words like a goldfish's "glop", well, that just makes me wonder if its worth legalising at all.

Apologies to anyone I have insulted if they added something constructive to the post. I responded in a belittled the people who didnt. I am quite busy and only skimming over these posts as I didnt expect to see so many.

I contribute a lot to this society and I dont like alcohol. I just want to smoke weed.

Lets see... If you drink alcohol every weekend and enjoy it etc, then you are as likely to become dependant on it as Weed... Weed will allow you to contribute, being pissed of your head will not.

Weed does not take over your consious. If you look at driving tests done in Holland for police you will see that the people who did the test stoned scored higher...

Weed (when used to it) does expand your mind... Some of the best creative people have been drugies...

Some of the posts here are so blind that it is difficult to not belittle the posters

Toiletroll

humanji wrote: »

Or maybe I'm taking the piss. It's so hard to tell these days. Pay attention to The_Ministers post (#39) as it is a reason why nobody will pay you any attention. And then pay heed to ejmaztec in post #40 as he has a very good point.

There's no real problem with using something like weed for recreational purposes, but when you claim you need it, then there's a problem.

if you are then you should look at how stronmgly i feel about the topic and feel a serious post is required. I dont tend to go out of my way to see if trolls are taking the piss out of what I say.. All I can do is take it at face value and of course respond

Toiletroll

The_Minister wrote: »

Toiletroll, you are falling into the same trap that Luke Flanagan AKA Ming the Merciless falls into:

You are a condescending, ignorant dick.

You have insulted and belittled everyone who has disagreed with you, and you haven't even had the decency (or, far more likely, the capacity) to put some effort or wit into it.

I actually support legalisation (preceded by a education campaign), not because I believe it is safe, but because I think that, similarly to alchohol or cigarettes, the number of people destroyed by it will be small compared to the number of people who will partake in it. The thing is, you are one of the burned-out cretins that I accept will be the collateral damage. And, seeing you desperately flailing around on this thread, unable to come up with better responses than short sporadic insults, because your neurons, fried to the point that each one of the little fellas probably sparks when you rustle tinfoil, cannot do more than let you cough up words like a goldfish's "glop", well, that just makes me wonder if its worth legalising at all.

I didnt read your post after the first few lines because you are being hippocritical... your post is worthless and you can respond again and leave out the beginning.

perhaps you dont have capacity yourself?

Toiletroll

The_Minister wrote: »

Toiletroll, you are falling into the same trap that Luke Flanagan AKA Ming the Merciless falls into:

You are a condescending, ignorant dick.

You have insulted and belittled everyone who has disagreed with you, and you haven't even had the decency (or, far more likely, the capacity) to put some effort or wit into it.

I actually support legalisation (preceded by a education campaign), not because I believe it is safe, but because I think that, similarly to alchohol or cigarettes, the number of people destroyed by it will be small compared to the number of people who will partake in it. The thing is, you are one of the burned-out cretins that I accept will be the collateral damage. And, seeing you desperately flailing around on this thread, unable to come up with better responses than short sporadic insults, because your neurons, fried to the point that each one of the little fellas probably sparks when you rustle tinfoil, cannot do more than let you cough up words like a goldfish's "glop", well, that just makes me wonder if its worth legalising at all.

I bit the bullet and read your post... Dont bother responding again. You know nothing about me or my success... Ill come back to this thread when the real recession kicks in and lets see where you will be then.

See?? I can make wild and unfounded assumkptions just like you, I must be as "smart" as you, based on your own logic...

ejmaztec

Toiletroll wrote: »

I bit the bullet and read your post... Dont bother responding again. You know nothing about me or my success... Ill come back to this thread when the real recession kicks in and lets see where you will be then.

See?? I can make wild and unfounded assumkptions just like you, I must be as "smart" as you, based on your own logic...

For some reason, I can't imagine why, you must have missed the bit where The Minister was prevented from further participation for a while.

Karoma

Toiletroll wrote: »

I bit the bullet and read your post... Dont bother responding again. You know nothing about me or my success... Ill come back to this thread when the real recession kicks in and lets see where you will be then.

See?? I can make wild and unfounded assumkptions just like you, I must be as "smart" as you, based on your own logic...

With all due respect: shut up. Stop attacking another poster, especially one that has been banned for attacking a poster. Now, repeat after me: :facepalm:

Toiletroll

Karoma wrote: »

With all due respect: shut up. Stop attacking another poster, especially one that has been banned for attacking a poster. Now, repeat after me: :facepalm:

Im sorry - I didnt realise he got banned

Thanks for that... Wish I saved my breath...

I just see this whole thing as an expensive war against people who are not criminals. I contribute alsmot 100% of my waking time to my business and other peoples business. I dont feel like I should be seen as a criminal.

The government could make so much from taxing it. The world is in crisis and legalizing weed might be better than letting the over 70's die as punishment for working all their lives to better the country.

The new budget looks like it was thought up by a bunch of clowns... I dont feel safe in clowns hands

faceman

Toiletroll wrote: »

I HATE ALCOHOL! Its useless. it renders an individual completely NON productive for its duration and after effects... Weed (in my case) increases my productivity and creativness.

Im going to regret this but seeing as you seem to be dying to tell everyone...

How does "weed" increase your productivity and creativeness?

Nick_oliveri

Chillax dude.

Ive had friends harrased recently for being caught the first time with a bit of dope, ringing them to try and get them to "rat", waiting in a particular place to search them etc.. I thought it was bad that they can bring you to court for a bit of dope, but doing that **** is low.

I live in an estate that should have the 5-0 walking around talking and doing some community outreach, mind you my estate isnt that bad, maybe three ejjits, tis quiet compared to others. If i seen them waddling down my street or down the worse ones id think it was a good thing...but no.

I had a bad enough opinion without hearing about that ****e recently. All credibility has been stripped. They do **** all, they do **** all to protect citizens from assault on a night out by giving laughable sentences to multiple offending scummy bastards that deserve to rot. But they'd lift ya and rob you of about ten joints worth and summons you for harming no one.

I for one would like to see the tables turned, the alcohol possession being illegal and the dope legal, try and convince us all then that your cause is just ya big drunk whorebag. Alcohol dependancy is far far greater than any possible phycological "dependancy" on a bit of smoke, and tbh, anyone who never smoked the stuff can stfu about its effects. You know **** all and your information is poor at best.

But nearly every aspect of my argument has been put forward here previously. Nothing has changed.