Handicapped Toilet Etiquette

Tails

Right some public feed back about this would be nice.

This issue was of great debate in the pub last night, and it seems there's 2 main schools of thought on it.

Anyways whats your opinion on using a disabled toilet?

Would you use it as normal if it is vacant or would you leave it and wait if all the usual cubicles are full?

My stance on the whole thing is that they should be used by anyone but if any one who is disabled needs to use it gets first preference.

MagicMarker

I would use it, and if i were ever caught? .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Sabre0001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01sHrDku2rE&feature=related



Edit: Grrrr MagicMarker! Needs Moss' bit at the start though ^^ see clip

axel rose

well I wouldnt leap over the disabled (but my god the image:D)............but if it is cleaner nearer and has toilet roll then Im there.

Jesus Wept

Tails wrote: »

Handicapped Toilet Etiquette

It's DISABLED.

ejmaztec

Why would someone disable a toilet?

minidazzler

Considering my young sister is in a wheelchair and has had incidents because some idiot decided it was a good Idea to take a ****e in a disabled toilet in a place where there were 16 cubicles, most of which were free, I am of the school that waits until there is a free cubicle.

It is basically the same as a parking space. There should be fines.


However I still make fun of the Cappers and Tards. Cos My sister is OK with it!!!

towel401

The-Rigger wrote: »

It's DISABLED.

It's the Cripple crapper

Karoma

It depends on the toilet...
<avoids repeat argument>

Can we all at least agree on putting the toilet seat down when we're done? Nobody likes a show-off.

tony1kenobi

The Ironsides of this world are not restricted from using the regular dumpers so it's all good........

minidazzler

Karoma wrote: »

It depends on the toilet...
<avoids repeat argument>

Can we all at least agree on putting the toilet seat down when we're done? Nobody likes a show-off.

I agree with this, I always do, but not even one of my close friends does!!! I don't know why!!! They are just eejits!!!

The Ironsides of this world are not restricted from using the regular dumpers so it's all good........

except by mobility.

Sharpshooter

Cant believe no ones taking the Piss out of this one

.........Oops.

MagicMarker

Are puns the new yore ma's?

Wishbone Ash

minidazzler wrote: »

It is basically the same as a parking space. There should be fines

Hardly the same unless the able bodied person locked the toilet from the outside and walked away for an hour.

emeraldstar

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Cant believe no ones taking the Piss out of this one

.........Oops.

Yeah, I know, this thread is a pile of crap.

Overheal

MagicMarker wrote: »

I would use it, and if i were ever caught? .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

damnit I was about to post that :pac:

bluto63

I don't see what the problem is to using a disabled toilet. And that whole nonsense of waitin for a "normal" toilet while the disabled one is free is just mad

CtrlSource

Tails wrote: »

Right some public feed back about this would be nice.

This issue was of great debate in the pub last night, and it seems there's 2 main schools of thought on it.

Anyways whats your opinion on using a disabled toilet?

Would you use it as normal if it is vacant or would you leave it and wait if all the usual cubicles are full?

My stance on the whole thing is that they should be used by anyone but if any one who is disabled needs to use it gets first preference.

It must have been a really interesting night if this was an issue of great debate lol! :P

But seriously, i''ve a question to ask. Are you only referring to the enlarged accessible cubicles within regular toilets, or also the proper unisex wheelchair accessible toilets that are completely separate to the Ladies & Gents?

My opinion of the former is that if all the other cubicles are occupied, the able bodied should indeed use them and not wait for another to become free. But if it is the separate room accessible toilets, these are reserved for those who really need them and are not part of the regular toilet blocks. It's pig ignorant to use one if you don't need it and you haven't first checked out the regular toilets first. TBH, the only justification i find acceptable is emerging diarrhea trickling down your leg, necessitating the use of the nearest available hole in the ground or bucket!

In my experience, people often use wheelchair accessible toilets (of the separate room kind) when they've got something very nasty to hide, like a morning dump after a night drinking 15 pints, followed by a few donor kebabs on the way home. i've been confronted by some really awful aftermaths of such dumps and unlike the rest of you, i can't simply go and use the next cubicle.

Some issues commonly faced by wheelchair users in accessible toilets: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055027363

Muppets who like to continually abuse the admittedly superior facilities offered in many accessible toilets: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055064886

tony1kenobi

minidazzler wrote: »

It is basically the same as a parking space. There should be fines.

If I was caught taking a **** in a handicapped parking space a fine would suffice from my perspective.

Lillyella

I used to ALWAYS use them, and would even use them first over the normal cubicles because I can do my make up in peace and there is loads of room in them.

My point was that, if I was somewhere where I was aware there was someone disabled in the establishment, I'd avoid it, but if there is no sign, then why not? I'll only be a couple of mins and if I heard a knock on the door, I'd be out like a light.

But what was pointed out to me was that when somone is disabled, it may not just be something that effects the use of their legs, and that bladder or kidney problems go hand in hand.

And so the extra couple of mins or even seconds that it takes me to pull my keks up and get out of there, could mean the person has wet themselves.

No-one wants that.

minidazzler

Lillyella wrote: »

I used to ALWAYS use them, and would even use them first over the normal cubicles because I can do my make up in peace and there is loads of room in them.

My point was that, if I was somewhere where I was aware there was someone disabled in the establishment, I'd avoid it, but if there is no sign, then why not? I'll only be a couple of mins and if I heard a knock on the door, I'd be out like a light.

But what was pointed out to me was that when somone is disabled, it may not just be something that effects the use of their legs, and that bladder or kidney problems go hand in hand.

And so the extra couple of mins or even seconds that it takes me to pull my keks up and get out of there, could mean the person has wet themselves.

No-one wants that.

You don't know how true this is until it happens to someone you know!!!

Thirdfox

Do people sit/stand in the seat/area reserved for disabled people on the bus - sure they do, and if someone in a wheelchair comes gets on, it's only common sense to move unless the bus is full.

So what's the problem with using a disabled person's toilet? I don't use them unless the others are full but wouldn't give it a second thought if they were.

axel rose

pardon my ignorance but why am I to assume that someone in a wheelchair is the only person who cant 'hold it in'. something as simple as a bladder infection can render a person 'sensitive'.
In the early and later stages of pregnancy women find it difficult to 'hold it'. As far as I am aware we dont need permission to use disabled toilets nor will I seek it.
Its not my automatic toilet of choice but if Im bursting Ill use it. If I have a buggy with me Ill also use it.If its not in use I cant see how my 3 minutes can harm anyone.....or am I expected to wet myself on the offchance that a more disabled person may also wet themselves?
Are we supposed to have disabled stickers similiar to parking stickers? :rolleyes:

nah! too pc for my liking. Ill use them when the circumstances deem it so.

tony1kenobi

Lillyella wrote: »

But what was pointed out to me was that when somone is disabled, it may not just be something that effects the use of their legs, and that bladder or kidney problems go hand in hand.

And so the extra couple of mins or even seconds that it takes me to pull my keks up and get out of there, could mean the person has wet themselves.

They are already less able though and everyone will feel sorry for them.....if you pissed your pants outside a capper john do you think professor x won't laugh at you??

oleras

Lillyella wrote: »

because I can do my make up in peace .

What are you touching up ? those mirrors are crotch height ?

minidazzler

axel rose wrote: »

pardon my ignorance but why am I to assume that someone in a wheelchair is the only person who cant 'hold it in'. something as simple as a bladder infection can render a person 'sensitive'.
In the early and later stages of pregnancy women find it difficult to 'hold it'. As far as I am aware we dont need permission to use disabled toilets nor will I seek it.
Its not my automatic toilet of choice but if Im bursting Ill use it. If I have a buggy with me Ill also use it.If its not in use I cant see how my 3 minutes can harm anyone.....or am I expected to wet myself on the offchance that a more disabled person may also wet themselves?
Are we supposed to have disabled stickers similiar to parking stickers? :rolleyes:

nah! too pc for my liking. Ill use them when the circumstances deem it so.

Grand if it is actually an emergency, but when there is a normal jacks a few meters away and your not on the verge of wetting yourself then go there!

I'm not all for special treatment of anyone, in fact, I treat my sister the same as I treat everyone else.

I jokingly call her capper to her face. but at the end of the day, disabled toilets are there for a reason, and that reason is not because someone could'nt be bothered to walk the few meters to the next toilet.

Xavi6

If there's no one around and it's a straight choice between the regular jacks and the disabled one then it's the disabled on for me. They're always much cleaner, always have loo roll, they're bigger, and they have arm rests. No brainer.

axel rose

ok then if I hold my hymnsheet lower than I usually do can the three of us sing from it?

tony1kenobi

minidazzler wrote: »

Grand if it is actually an emergency, but when there is a normal jacks a few meters away and your not on the verge of wetting yourself then go there!

I'm not all for special treatment of anyone, in fact, I treat my sister the same as I treat everyone else.

I jokingly call her capper to her face. but at the end of the day, disabled toilets are there for a reason, and that reason is not because someone could'nt be bothered to walk the few meters to the next toilet.

You would agree surely that a heavily pregnant woman with a child in a buggy is a disability of sorts, even if not in the accepted sense? Like that Larry David video...a guy with a stutter has preference over someone simply busting and in need of the facilities.....all jest aside.....if someone is desperate they go where they can...otherwise they will go where they can't.....someone just using a disabled toilet out of laziness in bad form....but when you gotta go you gotta go wouldn't you agree??.....and fair play to your sister for not allowing her sense of humour to be disabled.....if only their were more like her!!!

xOxSinéadxOx

the last 2 times I went to use the disabled person's toilet there was someone in it. I bet they weren't disabled either :rolleyes:

tony1kenobi

xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »

the last 2 times I went to use the disabled person's toilet there was someone in it. I bet they weren't disabled either :rolleyes:

If you had tried to actually initiate a bet on whether or not they were disabled, while they are on the crapper, would have been beyond awesome.

The_B_Man

Theres a disabled toilet downstairs in messrs thats dead handy. especially since the mens toilet is upstairs. nobody ever uses it so ur in and out and back to ur pint in 2 minutes flat!

Sam Vimes

The_B_Man wrote: »

Theres a disabled toilet downstairs in messrs thats dead handy. especially since the mens toilet is upstairs. nobody ever uses it so ur in and out and back to ur pint in 2 minutes flat!

if it's down stairs i'm not surprised no disabled people use it

FlutterinBantam

As a matter of course I prefer the Capper Crappers because there is great privacy,plenty of room,nice bars you can hang on to to get good traction when backing out a thick lad.

I have a complaint though about the CC in McDonalds of Stillorgan shopping centre. I went into the CC and unloaded a major messy explosion,no toilet brush to clean the pan and the seat area.

I would feel sorry for the next wheelchair person who had to use it.

Someone should sort that out.

FX Meister

The-Rigger wrote: »

It's DISABLED.

It's actually differently abled these days.

stovelid

Some disabled toilets have baby changing stations in them as well.

I never see them as being exclusively for disabled people. They are just jacks modified to accommodate disabled people. If a disabled person isn't around, I use them. If a disabled person is around, they have first call on it, obviously.

FX Meister

I'll use the diff abled over the normie toilet 9 times out of 10. They are usually cleaner and have more space. It is discrimination to tell people they can't use them. FACT

Ross_Mahon

Sometimes there's no toilet paper in the regular toilets, So you have to slip into the the 'VIP cubicle'.

stovelid

stovelid wrote: »

Some disabled toilets have baby changing stations in them as well.

I never see them as being exclusively for disabled people. They are just jacks modified to accommodate disabled people. If a disabled person isn't around, I use them. If a disabled person is around, they have first call on it, obviously.

+1 x 1000

They are not exclusively for people with disabilities, just like the "regular" toilets are not exclusively for able bodied people. I will always use the "regular" toilets first but if I have my daughter with me, or if the disabled toilets are right beside me and the regular toilets are miles away, I'll use the disabled. I would NEVER use a disabled car parking space, I just think that this is pig ignorant, and maybe you'll say what's the difference, but the difference is that people with disabilities need car parking spaces closer to things, and with more space to get out, and as someone already pointed out, you're not in the loo for an hour (ahem) also, it's illegal to park in a disabled spot, it's not illegal to piddle in a disabled loo.

Mark200

If you can wait then wait, if not then I suppose no one will care that you use the disabled toilets if it means you don't piss in your pants in front of everyone

loyatemu

handicrapper ftw. particularly if you're bringing small kids to the loo.

its not remotely the same as taking a disabled parking space (which is despicable IMO). If you arrive and find there's no parking spaces then you have to go park somewhere else, if you arrive to find the loo is occupied then its a 5 minute wait.

CtrlSource

axel rose wrote: »

pardon my ignorance but why am I to assume that someone in a wheelchair is the only person who cant 'hold it in'. nah!

No, you can't assume that. Just because someone uses a wheelchair doesn't mean they're incontinent!

Nobody has addressed the question about the 2 different types of toilet at issue here; the wider cubicle within regular toilets and the completely separate accessible toilet. Use of the former by able bodied is totally acceptable to me. Use of the latter is not

axel rose

CtrlSource wrote: »

No, you can't assume that. Just because someone uses a wheelchair doesn't mean they're incontinent!

Nobody has addressed the question about the 2 different types of toilet at issue here; the wider cubicle within regular toilets and the completely separate accessible toilet. Use of the former by able bodied is totally acceptable to me. Use of the latter is not

Yea, chair or no chair I agree, You just cant tell by looking at someone whether or not they are incontinent.
Again, regarding my ignorance...whats the difference between the two toilets? I thought they were both designed for wheelchair users.

stovelid

CtrlSource wrote: »

and the completely separate accessible toilet. Use of the former by able bodied is totally acceptable to me.

I use these sometimes, especially if you have a child in tow. I don't think it's like using a disabled parking space (which I would never do) as the time frames are different. On the off-chance that a disabled user came along (which has never happened in all the time I have ever used them), they would have to wait 2-3 minutes max.

I always assumed that such toilets are provided to aid disabled users, not as an exclusive facility for them. The fact that many have baby changing stations in them would support this.

CtrlSource

axel rose wrote: »

Yea, chair or no chair I agree, You just cant tell by looking at someone whether or not they are incontinent.
Again, regarding my ignorance...whats the difference between the two toilets? I thought they were both designed for wheelchair users.

Well they are but... here in my workplace, in the Gents toilets you have a row of cubicles and the last one is a double width one with a whb in it, desgined to accomodate wheelchair users (though it's actually a bit too small). It's very much part of the main Gents toilets and is regularly occupied when the other cubicles are also in use and i have no problem with that.

However in many places - shopping centres, pubs, restaurants etc., the wheelchair toilets are separate little rooms. i don't appreciate when people use these before they at least go in to the normal toilet and check it first

CtrlSource

stovelid wrote: »

I always assumed that such toilets are provided to aid disabled users, not as an exclusive facility for them. The fact that many have baby changing stations in them would support this.

You're absolutely right. When you have a child with you it makes sense and is necessary to use them. Most of them will have a fold-down changing table too for that purpose

Zulu

Whats everyone got against parking in handycapped spots?
I mean, they have wheels - the extra couple of yards is a doddle for them.

Zulu

Ah I'm only joking - relax

Silenceisbliss

CtrlSource wrote: »

You're absolutely right. When you have a child with you it makes sense and is necessary to use them. Most of them will have a fold-down changing table too for that purpose

moral of todays lesson; always borrow a child in the area to take with you to the crapper if you want to use the disabled cubicle

CtrlSource

Silenceisbliss wrote: »

moral of todays lesson; always borrow a child in the area to take with you to the crapper if you want to use the disabled cubicle

Exactly. Although 'borrowing' children can cause other problems...

Raiser

To all the people on here saying "fcuk yeah Dude, loike I've an aurse and a bladder too and I'm practically disabled after 4 bottles of Heino"

- Someday you will may [hopefully] be sat in a pool of your own píss in a wheelchair 'cause there's some able-bodied gobshíte in the disabled toilet whose parents didn't bring them up properly, the education system didn't educate them and they're missing several key chromosomes......

I get a bit sickened by all the scummy knackers who park in disable parking spots too. Some consolation to whoever actually needs it when the wife-beater or skanky yoke comes out 20 minutes later and you see the smug grin on their inbred face as they remember why their car is right at the door :mad: