7 day ban from Pro Wrestling forum

rovert

I was banned on Thursday afternoon from the Pro Wrestling forum for a week for posting what the moderator's reason of Posting Nonsense. The thread was about a wrestler (Raven) comically bad attempted at a singing in a band. In the thread I jokingly stated that a well known poster ShawnRaven should change his name to avoid anyone associating with it with him. The moderator deleted the thread and banned from posting for a week without any warning. Id like to point out I don’t normally post nonsense on this board, if anything I’ve at times been viewed as too serious.

After I was banned I made two attempts at contacting the moderator bombidol politely or at least I hope it came across that way. He has still not replied to either one. I feared a third PM might be viewed as harassing behaviour. So yesterday I PM’d another moderator Fozzy to ask him whether if bombidol had actually received either PM and to ask bombidol what the reasoning for my bannning was in general. Today I received a PM from Fozzy the contents of which I’m not sure I’m allowed post as it came second hand but still does not explain much of why I was banned.

I’m annoyed that I’m still fairly unclear why was I given the punishment I was given and the lack of response from the moderator after two days.

Galvasean

Banned from Pro Wrestling due to nonsense - ROFL

Little bit hypocritical no?

AnimalRights

Rovert if you want to see revenge but not get banned I recommend you watch 50 seconds in and 1:49 into this video.
Obviously Bombidol is the guy in the red cap.;)

You owe me at least 2 pints for the satisfaction you will get from this.

rovert

Here was the video I linked it is horrifically bad from a personality known for taking himself WAY too seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHT4cdoHvxE

Pigman II

Banned for a week? You should take it as a favour. Return to that forum nevermore!

Fozzy

For the record, I didn't see anything wrong with the thread. It was a thread about a wrestler (Raven) singing a song that's just really bad, and rovert tied it in with a regular PW poster's recent name change (ShawnRaven) as a light-hearted joke

I know that there's been Feedback threads about rovert in the past, but he has been better behaved since the last one

My hands are tied though

EDIT: The song is a new one, it's not like rovert specifically sought it out so that he could make a joke about ShawnRaven

AnimalRights

Obviously I left out the link...doh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al950qAY6-0
Remember 0.50 in and 1:49

Firewalkwithme

Crazy decision and very bad moderating considering the very obvious efforts rovert has made recently.

Sorry to see you get banned for something silly like this rovert.

super_furry

Seems to be some very poor moderating.

Pigman II

Seems to be some very poor moderating.

Agreed. I got perm banned from Wrestling just now for (IMHO) absolutely no reason!

Fozzy

Pigman II wrote: »

Agreed. I got perm banned from Wrestling just now for (IMHO) absolutely no reason!

You should take it as a favour. Return to that forum nevermore!

Pigman II

Fozzy wrote: »

You should take it as a favour. Return to that forum nevermore!

PM me if you'd like to buy a pair of Triple H's used underpants.

orestes

Pigman II wrote: »

Agreed. I got perm banned from Wrestling just now for (IMHO) absolutely no reason!

Probably has something to do with those pointless threads you started in there after you posted in this thread, just a thought

Daysha

Seems extremely harsh tbh.

Kold

I heard steroids give you tits.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Crazy decision and very bad moderating considering the very obvious efforts rovert has made recently.

Sorry to see you get banned for something silly like this rovert.

Thanks, but it seems my recent behaviour was what lead to the banning.

I brought this thread to bombidol's attention as I didnt want to go behind his back when I posted this thread and he has been active since then yet he still hasnt responsed to me in any way. Asking for an explaination or clarifcation shouldnt be this hard to get from a moderator.

Firewalkwithme

rovert wrote: »

Thanks, but it seems my recent behaviour was what lead to the banning.

I brought this thread to bombidol's attention as I didnt want to go behind his back when I posted this thread and he has been active since then yet he still hasnt responsed to me in any way. Asking for an explaination or clarifcation shouldnt be this hard to get from a moderator.

The fact that he is yet to respond is really a poor show at this stage especially considering Fozzy has expressed his opinion on this thread.

Another example of how to be a bad moderator by bombidol I'm afraid.

Bubs101

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Another example of how to be a bad moderator by bombidol I'm afraid.

Could you give any other example of poor moderating from BombIdol or are you just bashing him because he doesn't post there. He lurks and there's nothing wrong with an objective moderator, in fact, it's a good thing

Rovert's caused a good few people to stop posting as much on the board and has pissed everybody off their at one stage or another. Just because he is extremely careful to not break the rules and when he does, always has an excuse, such as the Minto fag episode, doesn't mean that he should get away with being extremely aggressive to posters. Maybe it's coming at a bad time because in the past month or so Rovert's gotten a lot better at boards

Sully

The Minto fag episode? How do you call someone a fag and still be within the rules? Thats personal abuse, a straight ban.

From reading posts in various Feedback threads, I think that rovert cant win. Hes not liked, people want him out and I get an impression the mods agree. Sure his attitude stinks, demanding facts (which he should be allowed do but with a nicer tone) etc. but you cant issue bans for silly reasons just because hes not liked and people have left. He, from what I gathered, has somewhat improved but not enough.

Will rovert ever be welcomed unless he lets everybody talk ****e and not point out the ****e there waffling on about?

Fozzy

Sully wrote: »

The Minto fag episode? How do you call someone a fag and still be within the rules? Thats personal abuse, a straight ban.

From a previous Feedback thread...

Fozzy wrote:

I explained this before. Minto had talked about the board on a website that he is a member of, Figure Four Online. rovert is also a member there. Minto had posted something about the Figure Four board. rovert replied to him using a sort of in-joke from that board, saying "fagot". "Fagot" is a term of affection if anything on that board

To me it's the equivalent of someone making a South Park reference and someone else replying to them using some sort of joke from the show, using an "insult" that isn't actually offensive in the context of the show

If Minto were not a member of that other board and he hadn't been posting about it then I would have taken some action against rovert

I did tell rovert not to do it again though

Sully

Fozzy wrote: »

From a previous Feedback thread...

Now THATS a storm in a tea cup right there.

rovert

Can we stick to the topic at hand and not go over things from the past for the third or fourth time? Sully in relation to the episode which you've brought up I’ve explained it numerous times and even though my intent wasn’t to offend I apologised to the two people it offended more than once also I havent used the term since . My attitude doesn’t stink and I’m not normally extremely aggressive. I’m helpful and pleasant the majority of the time. While going to great pains to be more so for longer than the one month period stated by Bubs101.

This thread should only be about the continued lack of communication from the moderator who banned and my view that punishment which was given to me was overly harsh.

dr.bollocko

What is this Rovert IV? Where is Apollo Creed?
With the greatest respect, you seem to really love sailing close to the wind with that pro-wrestling forum. Every time you get infracted or banned there its straight in here to fight the powah and rant about the mods. In the end, you are just going to give someone a bit of a **** time of it. It might seem harsh to some users but when you look at the history and the manner in which you post there, which has many users' backs up, if you are to continue to use that forum as you do, you have to take your licks like everyone else.

rovert

I know I shouldnt reply to this stuff going over old ground:

dr.bollocko wrote: »

With the greatest respect, you seem to really love sailing close to the wind with that pro-wrestling forum.

No I don’t, I like talking about Wrestling on a reasonably intelligent level while joining on the less serious side too.

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Every time you get infracted or banned there its straight in here to fight the powah and rant about the mods. In the end, you are just going to give someone a bit of a **** time of it.

You read the OP right?

Yeah that’s the reason why I waited two days before starting the thread, contacting the moderator twice via PM waiting a day each for a reply stating explicitly I didn’t want to start a thread in feedback, in the second instance NOT jumping to any derogatory conclusions about how the moderator dealt with my first PM chalking it up to an innocent oversight (ie he simply missed it) while also asking another moderator to contact him to see whether he missed my second PM. I haven’t "ranted" about Mods as you've stated rather I’ve been quite complimentary about them in threads here in Feedback in the past. Speaking about previous Feedback threads you wrote this about me:

I noticed that too. The guy gets lambasted in there for his knowledge rather than thanked for it. I don't really like that TBH.

dr.bollocko wrote: »

It might seem harsh to some users but when you look at the history and the manner in which you post there, which has many users' backs up, if you are to continue to use that forum as you do, you have to take your licks like everyone else.

So mods can ban people for a week for a minor at best infraction with no warning or clarification willy nilly, I don’t think so?

Firewalkwithme

Bubs101 wrote: »

Could you give any other example of poor moderating from BombIdol or are you just bashing him because he doesn't post there. He lurks and there's nothing wrong with an objective moderator, in fact, it's a good thing

Example No.1 would be the fact that bombidol banned rovert for sweet F.A.

Example No.2 would be bombidol not responding to the PM's or this thread.

I was refering to bombidol's poor handling of this incident. I am not trying to turn this into an examination of bombidols overall performance. Sorry if I caused confusion by not making that clear.

rovert

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

I am not trying to turn this into an examination of bombidols overall performance.

Nor should it be an examination of me. Anyone who wants to can you please start a new thread or just read the thread about me in August. Thanks.

Id just like to state Ive had zero problems with bombidol in the past. Just his handling of the situation outlined in the OP. Can we please stick to that?

Daysha

Any more word on this? Half of the ban is already up and at this rate I'll take a wild guess and say that whoever decides to sort it out will just say "ah sure your bans nearly up anyway, no harm done" etc and just sweep it under the carpet.

ShaneU

If it was just based on that post then that's ridiculous moderating :rolleyes:

rovert

deise59 wrote: »

Any more word on this? Half of the ban is already up and at this rate I'll take a wild guess and say that whoever decides to sort it out will just say "ah sure your bans nearly up anyway, no harm done" etc and just sweep it under the carpet.

No word on this but (god this sounds stalkerish) bombidol did browse the thread an hour ago and again I did PM a link to him to bring it to his attention. He does know this thread exists.

Dancor

I seen the original thread in PW, And in fairness rovert you picked out one poster on the whole board to make a thread about, It just so happens that you and said poster (shawnraven) have had alot of differences in the past. So even when I first saw it I believed it was rovert the big bully attacking a poster for no reason. That, along with all your previous infractions and warnings probably deserves a weeks ban. And thats all it is, A One week ban, Just a slap on the wrist, take it on the chin.

Alot of users may be happy about this since they can post freely without having to worry about the big bad PW wolf making the forum miserable to post in.

DenMan

Hi rovert

Regarding the lack of a response it is out of your hands. The mod in person may have been away for the weekend or something came up that would interfere with them getting back to you. Everybody has a live outside of boards and we have to respect that. Scott Levy (Raven) may have branded his name and as a result people may be unwilling to discuss it (to avoid legal complications). As to why you were banned, when the time is right they will give you a proper explanation. Being honest I have also received a one week ban from a mod for breaching the thread charter. I questioned it and after getting a response I took it on the chin and lived with it (even though it was a thread I posted in a fair bit). Give it a bit of time and see what happens.

rovert

dancor wrote: »

I seen the original thread in PW, And in fairness rovert you picked out one poster on the whole board to make a thread about, It just so happens that you and said poster (shawnraven) have had alot of differences in the past.

We buried the hatchet dancor or at least we thought we did. I don’t know if ShawnRaven reported me, if he did he must be amazingly touchy or really dislike Raven. There was a similar thread made about me recently and I didn’t report anyone for it and took it in good spirits certainly not as bullying. If you saw the original thread you would have seen the smiley within. The message of thread placed ShawnRaven above (having more credibility or talent etc) than the wrestler Raven. So how can it be bullying exactly? It anything it was a complementary.

dancor wrote: »

So even when I first saw it I believed it was rovert the big bully attacking a poster for no reason. That, along with all your previous infractions and warnings probably deserves a weeks ban. And thats all it is, A One week ban, Just a slap on the wrist, take it on the chin..

You can turn me into a fairytale baddie all you want. But I’m not a bully on the Pro Wrestling and certainly not recently. If I was given a reason for the one week I could debate whether I deserved it or not based on the grounds given. But I will say my recent behaviour in my opinion has not been tantamount to a banning.

dancor wrote: »

Alot of users may be happy about this since they can post freely without having to worry about the big bad PW wolf making the forum miserable to post in.

So I make the forum miserable sure mate :rolleyes: Amazing how you can frame people's behaviour and actions.

DenMan wrote: »

Hi rovert

Regarding the lack of a response it is out of your hands. The mod in person may have been away for the weekend or something came up that would interfere with them getting back to you.

Read the OP I took that approach trying to communicate with the moderator. The fact of the matter he has been quite active the past few days and has had time to post posts on here.

6th

dr.bollocko wrote: »

What is this Rovert IV? Where is Apollo Creed?
With the greatest respect, you seem to really love sailing close to the wind with that pro-wrestling forum. Every time you get infracted or banned there its straight in here to fight the powah and rant about the mods. In the end, you are just going to give someone a bit of a **** time of it. It might seem harsh to some users but when you look at the history and the manner in which you post there, which has many users' backs up, if you are to continue to use that forum as you do, you have to take your licks like everyone else.

Well said.

Dancor

rovert wrote: »

If you saw the original thread you would have seen the smiley within.

I did, It was this one :P Which could mean anything

You can turn me into a fairytale baddie all you want.

Heal would have been a more suitable word

So I make the forum miserable sure mate :rolleyes:

Davie meltzer told me, So it must be true!!

Amazing how you can frame people's behaviour and actions.

I must have hit a nerve if you edited your post to add this.

Bubs101

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Example No.1 would be the fact that bombidol banned rovert for sweet F.A.

Example No.2 would be bombidol not responding to the PM's or this thread.

I was refering to bombidol's poor handling of this incident. I am not trying to turn this into an examination of bombidols overall performance. Sorry if I caused confusion by not making that clear.

He's explained why he hasn't been here in a thread that neither you or Rovert can access and some people here have agreed with BombIdol's decision. Also, from what I've seen from the archives, he took alot of abuse getting the PW forum off the ground and is the main reason we have one

Firewalkwithme

Bubs101 wrote: »

He's explained why he hasn't been here in a thread that neither you or Rovert can access and some people here have agreed with BombIdol's decision.

Well if he wants to hide in the moderators forum instead of publicly defending his decision that doesn't give the impression of having much confidence in the validity of his decision.

Those that have agreed with the decision here seem to have done so largely because of their dislike for rovert just as you are doing now. If they could look at this from a neutral standpoint I don't think bombidol would have any support. He doesn't even have the support of his fellow Pro-wrestling mod, Fozzy in case you had not noticed.

For the record - and rovert will confirm this, I have had many, many disputes with rovert but I don't let that cloud my judgement when something so blatently wrong as this happens.

Bubs101

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Those that have agreed with the decision here seem to have done so largely because of their dislike for rovert just as you are doing now.

I don't dislike Rovert, I used to but haven't had a problem with him in a while. Look at the last of his feedback threads for proof

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

If they could look at this from a neutral standpoint I don't think bombidol would have any support. He doesn't even have the support of his fellow Pro-wrestling mod, Fozzy in case you had not noticed.

Fozzy does tend to back Rovert in general and mods aren't robots, they have different opinions on things.

In fairness to Rovert, he's clearly been making more of an effort recently but the first impression tends to stick, and he made a worse one than kentonbomb

Firewalkwithme

Bubs101 wrote: »

I don't dislike Rovert, I used to but haven't had a problem with him in a while. Look at the last of his feedback threads for proof

I don't want to go through those threads again so I'll take your word on that one!

Bubs101 wrote: »

In fairness to Rovert, he's clearly been making more of an effort recently but the first impression tends to stick, and he made a worse one than kentonbomb

You are absolutely right when you say that first impressions last (and won't be forgotten by anyone familiar with what we are talking about) but kentonbomb was a different kettle of fish in that he was incapable of changing whereas we have seen that rovert can.

rovert

Bubs101 wrote: »

He's explained why he hasn't been here in a thread that neither you or Rovert can access and some people here have agreed with BombIdol's decision. Also, from what I've seen from the archives, he took alot of abuse getting the PW forum off the ground and is the main reason we have one

Bubs, I saw him browsing this very thread today and he has made posts since I originally PM'd him too. It has been a day since I stated this thread and Im still none the wiser why I was given the infraction I was given. This shouldnt be this difficult.

Fozzy

rovert wrote: »

It has been a day since I stated this thread and Im still none the wiser why I was given the infraction I was given.

And neither am I to be honest. I don't understand why that thread warranted any action at all

Firewalkwithme

Fozzy wrote: »

And neither am I to be honest. I don't understand why that thread warranted any action at all

Well you have access to the moderator forum - why don't you take a look at what he said there and enlighten us. Bombidol was reading this thread only 20 minutes ago yet wouldn't post on it so its not looking like he will at this stage.

Fozzy

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Well you have access to the moderator forum - why don't you take a look at what he said there and enlighten us. Bombidol was reading this thread only 20 minutes ago yet wouldn't post on it so its not looking like he will at this stage.

I'm still none the wiser. bombidol's reasons don't make sense to me

Firewalkwithme

Fozzy wrote: »

I'm still none the wiser. bombidol's reasons don't make sense to me

Fair play for being honest enough to say that Fozzy.

Bubs101

rovert wrote: »

Bubs, I saw him browsing this very thread today and he has made posts since I originally PM'd him too. It has been a day since I stated this thread and Im still none the wiser why I was given the infraction I was given. This shouldnt be this difficult.

Obviously he's aware of the thread but in fairness, I couldn't blame him for wanting to avoid one of those quote arguments with you. He doesn't have to appear if he doesn't want to, it'd be an Smod or Cmod decision and feedback threads always turn into witch hunts against the mod in question.

Handsome Bob

It seems like a very trivial banning, I'm sorry to see that happen rovert gathering from the response's in this thread saying that you're really making the effort with the style in which you post.

But I'm a bit relieved you weren't around today because I got a wrap on the knuckles for posting from 3rd party websites again.:pac: (joking)

trout

Bubs101 wrote: »

... feedback threads always turn into witch hunts against the mod in question.

Yup.

/OT ... Watch this space.

bombidol

ban lifted

rovert

Bubs101 wrote: »

Obviously he's aware of the thread but in fairness, I couldn't blame him for wanting to avoid one of those quote arguments with you. He doesn't have to appear if he doesn't want to, it'd be an Smod or Cmod decision and feedback threads always turn into witch hunts against the mod in question. ].

I waited two days before posting this thread while giving him a day to respond to both PMs. I never wanted to start a Feedback thread. I’m not looking for an argument I told the mod I didn’t want to start a Feedback thread. If I was looking for an argument I would not have waited those two days. If he didn’t want an argument he could have just responded to my first PM. Again I never had a prior problem with the mod and if you read the thread I’ve asked for this thread not to turn into a witch hunt against him or me. Infractions should be in part a correctional tool not just used for punishment. I’m still unclear why I was given the infraction I was given. Not only I’m unclear but another mod from the same forum is unclear.

LZ5by5 wrote: »

It seems like a very trivial banning, I'm sorry to see that happen rovert gathering from the responses in this thread saying that you're really making the effort with the style in which you post.

Well my recent behaviour seems to have been a deciding factor in my banning. That is something I can’t get my head around.

LZ5by5 wrote: »

But I'm a bit relieved you weren't around today because I got a wrap on the knuckles for posting from 3rd party websites again. (joking)

It was a bit weird to me Fozzy or ShawnRaven weren’t attacked the same way I usually am when I request that in the same/similar manner.

rovert

bombidol wrote: »

ban lifted

Thanks, no hard feelings but I would have liked some form of explaination.

Ponster

rovert wrote: »

Thanks, no hard feelings but I would have liked some form of explaination.

I suggest that you leave it while you're winning. Boards.ie doesn't owe you anything. You can either leave this feedback thread considering that you have "righted a wrong" or continue on this thread and see what happens.

astrofool

To be fair to him, the first thing a mod should be able to do, is apologise and give a reason (even if it's as inane, as "I was pissed, and I felt like it").

People are often expected to jump through hoops when they get banned, mods should also be able to do this as a primary tenet of modding.