iPhone on O2 prepay

talkingclock · 10-10-2008 2:49pm #1

for those interested, from the horses mouth:

the iPhone will be available via prepay on O2 for the christmas business. prices are beween €529 and €569 - in fact not subsidised at all. no info on special priceplans yet.

it should also become available soon for billpay customers that are waiting for theirs.

trellheim · 10-10-2008 3:25pm

3g or not 3g ?

talkingclock · 10-10-2008 3:34pm

3g AFAIK

matchthis · 10-10-2008 4:16pm

Which horse? I see they are starting a new data thing of a max of 99c a day or something. Still, chances are no stock and did they mention which Christmas

talkingclock · 10-10-2008 4:34pm

THE horse.

jimmycrackcorm · 10-10-2008 5:40pm

What's the point when they can't even get stock for contract users?

http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/connect/O2/Home/Shop/Phones/iPhone+3G/Find+out+more

talkingclock · 10-10-2008 5:48pm

i think there is more behind this then "no stock".

hint: stop of all upgrades at the end of the quarter and releasing upgrades at the start ofthe new quarter.

Random · 10-10-2008 5:50pm

talkingclock wrote: »

i think there is more behind this then "no stock".

hint: stop of all upgrades at the end of the quarter and releasing upgrades at the start ofthe new quarter.

Yes, they've over spent their budget.

Random · 10-10-2008 5:50pm

talkingclock wrote: »

for those interested, from the horses mouth:

the iPhone will be available via prepay on O2 for the christmas business. prices are beween €529 and €569 - in fact not subsidised at all. no info on special priceplans yet.

it should also become available soon for billpay customers that are waiting for theirs.

What horse?

MagicMarker · 10-10-2008 5:51pm

Random wrote: »

What horse?

My lovely horse?

MagicMarker · 10-10-2008 5:52pm

Seriously, anyone who spends 550 euro on a phone deserves to be ass raped.

120_Minutes · 10-10-2008 6:14pm

Random wrote: »

Yes, they've over spent their budget.

are you saying 02 have no money to buy new stock?

Creamy Goodness · 10-10-2008 6:17pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Seriously, anyone who spends 550 euro on a phone deserves to be ass raped.

there are plently of ****ter ways to spend money tbh

failsafe · 10-10-2008 6:18pm

120_Minutes wrote: »

are you saying 02 have no money to buy new stock?

He's saying O2 have no budget to subsidise new iPhones

120_Minutes · 10-10-2008 6:45pm

failsafe wrote: »

He's saying O2 have no budget to subsidise new iPhones

looks pretty bad for o2 then, doesnt it? are they sitting on stock then?

steve jobs must be very impressed with them right now...

Random · 10-10-2008 6:51pm

failsafe wrote: »

He's saying O2 have no budget to subsidise new iPhones

I have no source for this other than I've read it in some posts and I'm pretty sure some people linked to "sources". I'm not 100% sure though but it sorta makes sense.

120_Minutes wrote: »

looks pretty bad for o2 then, doesnt it? are they sitting on stock then?

steve jobs must be very impressed with them right now...

I believe there are stock problems regardless of how much money O2 were willing to put into it.

The Mad Hatter · 10-10-2008 7:57pm

What?! Just after I signed my soul over to Apple for eighteen months?!

danger mouse · 11-10-2008 6:03pm

failsafe wrote: »

He's saying O2 have no budget to subsidise new iPhones

Hmmm cpw have them there is 6 16 gig iphone 3gs sitting in my shop since thursday. O2 retail dosnt seem to have them tho. I heard from a customer that he was given a list of all the stores with Iphones in them, 2 weeks ago by someone in o2 retail. then when he went to the stores on the list he was told by the SC that they had them but couldnt sell them??? wonder how true this is. O2 seem to be really short staffed in their call centre at the mo too. Takes ages to get through.

The Mad Hatter · 11-10-2008 8:41pm

danger mouse wrote: »

Hmmm cpw have them there is 6 16 gig iphone 3gs sitting in my shop since thursday. O2 retail dosnt seem to have them tho. I heard from a customer that he was given a list of all the stores with Iphones in them, 2 weeks ago by someone in o2 retail. then when he went to the stores on the list he was told by the SC that they had them but couldnt sell them??? wonder how true this is. O2 seem to be really short staffed in their call centre at the mo too. Takes ages to get through.

Oh yeah, forgot about that - when I was first looking for one, Carphone Warehouse Maynooth had one left which they were allowed sell to customers from other networks, but not to current o2 customers. (As it was 16GB and white, I didn't get it then...)

danger mouse · 12-10-2008 6:13pm

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Oh yeah, forgot about that - when I was first looking for one, Carphone Warehouse Maynooth had one left which they were allowed sell to customers from other networks, but not to current o2 customers. (As it was 16GB and white, I didn't get it then...)

Haha they didnt sell it to you as they would make more commession on it as a new connection or port, nothing to do with people on other networks. Some of these shops have muppets working in them.

BostonB · 13-10-2008 12:46am

failsafe wrote: »

He's saying O2 have no budget to subsidise new iPhones

I heard this as the reason why they'd stopped upgrades for the time being too.

failsafe · 13-10-2008 9:31am

And it's launched....

http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/connect/O2/Home/Shop/Phones/iPhone+3G/Speak+easy/

Dades · 13-10-2008 10:06am

Just having look at the price plans, if you use the 3G daily you'll effectively pay €30 a month on top of whatever else you use. (More if you use more than 50Mb in a day).

Add that to the €20 min top up and that's more than my monthly bill without even making a call already.

No regrets.

drunkmonkey · 13-10-2008 10:12am

failsafe wrote: »

And it's launched....

http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/connect/O2/Home/Shop/Phones/iPhone+3G/Speak+easy/

Nice of them to throw in free Wi-FI:)

Are their international rates not against EU law.....I thought there was a cap brought in, 95cent to the UK and €1.90 to the rest of the EU seems very expensive...

future.music · 13-10-2008 11:03am

Dades wrote: »

Just having look at the price plans, if you use the 3G daily you'll effectively pay €30 a month on top of whatever else you use. (More if you use more than 50Mb in a day).

Add that to the €20 min top up and that's more than my monthly bill without even making a call already.

No regrets.

I agree. Plus you're paying €569 for the phone instead of just €229 with a contract.

As much as people don't like signing up to 18 month contracts I think that with this particular phone it's definitely the way to go.

Also, has anyone noticed how much they're charging on PAYG for calls to non-02 mobile numbers? 49 cent per minute!

Run_to_da_hills · 13-10-2008 11:14am

Ii guess that these phones will be the older 8gb models that Apple & O2 want to shift, like they did by flooding the country with the crappy 1st generation handsets earlier on in the year.

You can get a 16 GB handset for that on Ebay on many "buy it now" posts Jailbroken or not for €550 or less.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Apple-Iphone-3G-16GB-NEW-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ180298192918QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180298192918&_trkparms=72%3A1348%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

lockie · 13-10-2008 11:39am

hi. i'm a student and i don't make many calls. i text a lot and with free unlimited text to any network i save a fortune with just €20 top up every month which is enough for the calls. so unless the monthly payment is €20 i don't find the iphone billpay is the way to go at all. with the price of iphone PAYS in the UK of £350 and free nationwide wi-fi it is very attractive. but with O2 ireland charging more than €500, i would rather have a short trip to belfast and get the iphone there unlocked with turbo sim. ROI is such a ripoff nation and people don't complaint i wonder why...

drunkmonkey · 13-10-2008 12:43pm

What happend to the 2G iphones? Anywhere they can be picked up cheap now?, I want an iphone for the Apple apps to go with my imac, not to worreid about 3G on it...

future.music · 13-10-2008 12:44pm

lockie wrote: »

hi. i'm a student and i don't make many calls. i text a lot and with free unlimited text to any network i save a fortune with just €20 top up every month which is enough for the calls. so unless the monthly payment is €20 i don't find the iphone billpay is the way to go at all. with the price of iphone PAYS in the UK of £350 and free nationwide wi-fi it is very attractive. but with O2 ireland charging more than €500, i would rather have a short trip to belfast and get the iphone there unlocked with turbo sim. ROI is such a ripoff nation and people don't complaint i wonder why...

I understand what you mean but the main thing about iPhone is the mobile web - you'll be charged for that and as Dades has pointed out you can easily end up spending €30/month on it - trust me, once you have an iPhone you'll be wanting to use it as a mobile web device a lot. So, if i was a student and just wanted a phone to send texts and receive calls I'd stay well clear of the iPhone - cos really, if you're just using the phone to receive calls and send txts, what's the point in spending €570 on a phone (albeit a very nice & shiney one)?

future.music · 13-10-2008 12:50pm

If you made 10 calls a month, each lasting 5 minutes, to any Irish mobile network other than O2 (i.e. to a Vodafone/Meteor/3 number) that would cost you €24.50 per month.

Skippy65 · 13-10-2008 5:27pm

O2 ireland are useless. If they cant get stock for bill paying customers now how are they going to get stock for prepay customers by christmas? Their customer service is terrible also

johnk123 · 13-10-2008 5:56pm

Dades wrote: »

Just having look at the price plans, if you use the 3G daily you'll effectively pay €30 a month on top of whatever else you use. (More if you use more than 50Mb in a day).

Add that to the €20 min top up and that's more than my monthly bill without even making a call already.

No regrets.

I'm in the same boat as yourself. I do use data everyday, i text a load(but thank god for Eirtext) And i keep with my call quota.

I dont regret it either. Particularly in so that i went for the 16GB model which is €569 on PAYG.... plus your 300 odd euro a year in data, and the min required top up of 20€p/month..... the 45 per month seems like an okay deal in my eyes...

As you said Dades,

No regrets!

neilled · 13-10-2008 6:50pm

I'm currently working for o2 in N.Ireland and frankly I wouldn't touch the Iphone on O2 Ireland. You are being shafted. I'm doing the iphone for £349 and £399 for 8 and 16 gig versions and they come with 12 months free web and wifi access. One of the Key items that I'm mystery shopped on is the Iphone and one of the four points that you must mention in your sales pitch is that its a "revolutionary internet device". At the cost that O2 Ireland are looking for web access.... you'd be silly to buy!

turly · 13-10-2008 7:15pm

Not to mention their revision to the O2 Speakeasy Terms & Conditions:

Handset Locking

Your mobile phone is restricted to use on the O2 Ireland network. If you terminate your Pre-Pay service with us, or do not remain on one of our dedicated tariffs for iPhone, only the ipod function on your mobile phone will work. If you attempt to unlock your mobile phone and use on another network, it may become permanently unusable. This amends section 9.2 of the O2 Speakeasy terms.

Handy. You're stuck with 'em for life.

Rather than spending E569, you could do worse than buy a 32GB iPod Touch for E369 and spend 150 euro on an E51, blowing the other 50 euro on a few nice bottles of wine.

johnk123 · 13-10-2008 7:23pm

turly wrote: »

Rather than spending E569, you could do worse than buy a 32GB iPod Touch for E369 and spend 150 euro on an E51, blowing the other 50 euro on a few nice bottles of wine.

True, for someone who doesn't need the internet always with them, the ipod touch is definitely a good choice. But you'd be surprised just how usefull the internet is to you if you are in and around cities a lot. And within a month or so of using an iphone, you'll be surprised how often you use it to pull up a web page or check cinema times etc

drunkmonkey · 13-10-2008 7:26pm

neilled wrote: »

o2 in N.Ireland!

are the 02 pay as you go tarrifs the same in the north as the uk..

looks crazy expensive.....I think we need to send Eddie Hobbs up there...

http://www.o2international.co.uk/standardrate_and_data.aspx#payandgo

NiSmO · 13-10-2008 8:25pm

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mobius42 · 13-10-2008 8:35pm

NiSmO wrote: »

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Yes, the net amount you are charged every month is €45.

NiSmO · 13-10-2008 8:39pm

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Bob the Builder · 13-10-2008 8:42pm

They're owned by Telefonica in Spain, a huge company, also o2 have reserves. *Why* they got themselves in the upgrade situation I do not not know, because they could have relatively easily dug into their retained earnings or went to Telefonica looking for more. Last year was one of their best financial years on record. They were obviously fearful of something else, but once again, we're not being told anything except what we need to know.

o2 only buy stock for their retail stores. For the bulk of the o2 dealers, they are bought and sold through a contracted external company who are paid commission on signups, so the idea some people are having about "can't afford new stock" makes very little sense.

Bare in mind, the stock situation in Ireland is so bad because you're competing against the whole world while trying to get an iphone. And because you're living on the middle of a tiny island pushed off europe, of course o2 ireland are going to be the last to receive any stock. The exact same will happen at christmas, to a lesser extent, but it will happen all the same, because not having a contract is a huge benefit to some people, especially young people under the age of 18.

I have an N95, which cost me €190 because i got my mothers vodafone upgrade. It was well over €500 on pay as you go at the time. Anyone who pays €500 for a phone, in my opinion, is either rich or stupid, or both. And anyone who pays that much and doesn't get insurance is even sillier to be honest.

BoardsRanger · 13-10-2008 9:01pm

Just a question in relation to the free wi-fi for 12 months - does that mean that after a year you would not be able to use the phone to access the net via your home router??

Bob the Builder · 13-10-2008 9:06pm

BoardsRanger wrote: »

Just a question in relation to the free wi-fi for 12 months - does that mean that after a year you would not be able to use the phone to access the net via your home router??

No. You can still connect to wireless networks like your home network or office/school/etc. but just that you won't have access to wi-fi for free in certain public locations. Moreso applies to other countries than ireland. Bitbzz is kinda scarely populated in ireland, especially in connaught.

bluemachaveli · 13-10-2008 9:06pm

BoardsRanger wrote: »

Just a question in relation to the free wi-fi for 12 months - does that mean that after a year you would not be able to use the phone to access the net via your home router??

No just at bitbuzz hotspots!

Bill pay is the way to go! 99 cent a day is ****e!

Bob the Builder · 13-10-2008 9:08pm

bluemachavel wrote: »

Bill pay is the way to go! 99 cent a day is ****e!

Yep. Buying an iphone on prepay is like building a lighthouse in a bog. Brilliant, but expensive and useless.

BoardsRanger · 13-10-2008 9:16pm

cheers and just one more question- i heard that iphones can only use bluetooth with other iphones- does anybody know if this is true?

bluemachaveli · 13-10-2008 9:20pm

BoardsRanger wrote: »

cheers and just one more question- i heard that iphones can only use bluetooth with other iphones- does anybody know if this is true?

Bluetooth only works with headsets and car kits.
No file sending between iPhones or any other phones!

Bob the Builder · 13-10-2008 9:26pm

bluemachavel wrote: »

Bluetooth only works with headsets and car kits.
No file sending between iPhones or any other phones!

Is that true? Whilst I understand why, isn't that a bit stupid?

NiSmO · 13-10-2008 9:29pm

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Oafley Jones · 13-10-2008 10:44pm

johnk123 wrote: »

True, for someone who doesn't need the internet always with them, the ipod touch is definitely a good choice. But you'd be surprised just how usefull the internet is to you if you are in and around cities a lot. And within a month or so of using an iphone, you'll be surprised how often you use it to pull up a web page or check cinema times etc

Because you can't use the e51's wifi, hsdpa or your own choice of browser to look up the internet?

Bob the Builder · 13-10-2008 10:51pm

NiSmO wrote: »

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Yah, I understand why, but what about photo's that I take that i want to share with my family, or other material that belongs to me?

Third Party app's are controlled and regulated by Apple. Such an app will never, ever reach the consumer, and apple will make sure.

mobius42 · 13-10-2008 10:58pm

nevf wrote: »

Yah, I understand why, but what about photo's that I take that i want to share with my family, or other material that belongs to me?

Third Party app's are controlled and regulated by Apple. Such an app will never, ever reach the consumer, and apple will make sure.

This app is being released on the App store soon and allows you to transfer files between iPhones that have the program. Not as good, but better than nothing.

iPhone on O2 prepay

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