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At least it not a cold winter morning ergo LSD...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Cross training

    Warm up ergo 10 minutes @ 1'50.6"/500 @ 22-24spm it was harder than usual

    Resistance
    Chin ups 10,7,7,6
    BW Dips 10,8,6,4
    14kg Shoulder press standing 8,7,6,5,4 lighter than usual
    Bench Press 60kg 6,6,5,4

    Treadmill 6 miles in 45' which was 7'30"/mile but I really struggled with it

    Core shortened as my chest caved in after the run

    Chesty cough started last night , on the exputex and taking tomorrow off :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭kingQuez


    MCOS wrote: »
    Chesty cough started last night , on the exputex and taking tomorrow off :(

    Everyone seems to have man flu and similar ailments at the moment. Hope it clears up quick for you! I'm envious of your training log, you pack a lot into a week!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    Hope the cough clears soon - you've been flying along. When is the next race?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Hope the cough clears soon - you've been flying along. When is the next race?

    Thanks --amadeus-- The next event I'm scheduled for is the first Limerick duathlon. The next road race is the Adare 10k and I'll definitely pace you for as long as I can hold out :D

    Are you doing anything sooner than Adare?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Been swallowing the horrid cough bottle after every meal. Peaceful sleep last night, though I won't count my chickens just yet.. it sucks when your plan gets messed up by these irritating little ailments!

    Swim at the Arena this morning
    50m*6 kicks to start!
    50m*12 off RT
    (200m + 100m*2)*3 off RT

    2,100m total

    I had to work hard just to keep up and the guy in front of me was breast stroking at times :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    12 chilly moonlit miles in 1'37'36" pace 8'08"/mile

    Started out with Hip, arms and shoulder DOMS from the XT session on monday and the exhausting kicking drills in the pool so this was by no means going to be a fluid run. I was well wrapped up with 2 long sleeve dry flow tops, a hoody fleece, high vis jacket, hat and gloves and a mini torch. I started out easy for the first few miles and then found a steady rhythm. I wasn't exactly fresh at the end but I wasn't spend either so overall happy with my fitness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Short run this morning as I was pressed for time. 3 miles easy. Legs were stiff so cut the run short to do some stretching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Swim at the Arena this morning.

    (50m kick/100m bilateral breathing)*4
    300m*2
    250*2
    200*2
    150*2
    all off RT, total for session 2,400m

    The pace was about 1'54"/100m and I found this comfortable this morning. I actually had a bit of extra energy. I have been trying to get to bed even 30 mins earlier this week and it seems to be paying off. For once I wasn't simply focused on keeping up. I was aware of technique (or lack of!) for a change. Good session :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭DAVE_K


    MCOS - could probably read up your log back to start probably to find out what "off RT" is...............what is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Hi DAVE_K

    RT = Repeat Time, e.g doing a set off a certain interval time. Like doing reps of 100m off 2'05". You kick off the wall every 2'05" so you would be doing the 100m in about 2'00" and getting a 5sec rest


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭DAVE_K


    if you remember the intervals put 'em in your log. I'd be interested to see what ye're schedule is. Might try and replicate some of it in my own swims

    Are they progressively upping them? Granted there'll be a cap on this!!


    Are you working pace out by dividing total time in the pool by distance covered?

    You're putting in good distance anyway

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    I'm back into the club swim next week so I'll update the RT times in my log from then. There are five lanes and based on my TT time in October I was put in a lane according to my time and I was the slowest in the lane. I think we were going off 4'20 for 200 and this progressed to 4'10 for 200 by Christmas. At first I had to work hard to keep the pace but over the weeks I got a bit better and was getting a bit more rest before the next interval. My December TT was a significant pb and I progressed to being one of the faster in my lane so I don't know what that means. I think to progress the RT further you move into a faster lane :eek: we'll see.

    As for pace, I wouldn't divide the total time by distance as the session incorporated some rests and explanation of drills etc... We were advised by the coach to just look at our time at each 100. The idea was to swim an even pace. I generally gave more than 5 secs to the person in front and set out to catch them by the end of the rep. The first person off dictated the pace. The coach said we were doing about 1'54 pace at the end. Maybe we were closer to 1'52 at the start. The coach also kept saying to focus on length though and not speed.

    The morning sessions are actually closer to 3k in total but I always have to leave early for work. The proper swimmers get it done though :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    13 miles in 1'33'28" pace overall 7'11"/mile

    The first 2 miles were well under 14 minutes and I was feeling good. I had a strong wind behind me on the way out though. I decided i was going to try to crack 70' for 10 miles. Miles 6-9 were straight back into that wind and very very hard work. It took a sprint to get the 10 mile split I wanted. 69'39" which is a personal best :D I was wrecked so I eased up the pace for the last few miles home, however about 1.5 miles to go I realised I was not far off my 13 mile best so I pushed everything I had left up the last hill into the wind and got a 13 mile personal best too :D

    Exhausting run but worth it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭DAVE_K


    top notch!! 2 personal bests on a training run. Nice one.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    as dave said some improvement to get 2 pb's on the same training run
    great stuff keep it up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    SUNGOD wrote: »
    as dave said some improvement to get 2 pb's on the same training run
    great stuff keep it up

    Thanks SUNGOD you are putting in some mileage yourself fair play!

    I swallowed back a pint of water when I got in and immediately it felt as though my throat and chest closed up. Couldn't breathe for a few seconds :confused:

    That ever happen anyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Well done MCOS. Good time, difficult conditions. It wasn't too nice out there today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Was supposed to go for a cycle today but didn't have the energy nor was I in the mood to face a few hours in that wind and rain. The wheezy chest returned last night which explained why my chest tightened up after the run yesterday. Decided to see if I was just being lazy or was I unwell?

    2,500m swim at the Arena. Did it at steady state but I had to stop a few times and it was harder than usual.

    4 miles easy on the treadmill. Even the easy pace took so much effort. Started wheezing and coughing after 30 mins so I just got off, stretched and went home dejected. Answer, unwell! Back on the cough bottle :(

    Week 2 of the plan was all running and swimming as I didn't get out on the bike. A 38 mile week though is a lot more than usual for me. In fact the month before the DM I averaged 35 mile weeks with my peak week being 39 miles. I'll keep the intensity down (at least) in week 3 and try to shake off this annoying chesty cough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    MCOS wrote: »

    I swallowed back a pint of water when I got in and immediately it felt as though my throat and chest closed up. Couldn't breathe for a few seconds :confused:

    That ever happen anyone else?

    it once happened to me with a pint of vodka but never water:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    SUNGOD I'd like to see you try that after a run!

    Skipped the morning swim to get some extra sleep and also opted for a run instead of the XT session this evening as I've entered Dungarvan.

    10 miles in 1'13'42" pace 7'22"/mile in the rain but at least the wind settled down. Decided the legs were feeling ok so kept a moderate pace over the local hilly route. The hills did tax the hamstrings but there was plenty of energy this evening. Mad what a bit of extra sleep can do (and a bacon and cabbage for lunch :)) I wanted to get a sense for what 3'15 marathon pace would feel like and was pleased to hold it for 10 miles comfortably. I just imagined myself qualifying for Boston next year and it proved enough motivation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭Bally8


    Hi MCOS

    Just reading your log there, impressive stuff. Im hoping to take part in the Adare 10k this year too. Last time I did it I came 9th last. This year I expect to do worse but as its my first race in 18 months the aim is to just finish it and soak up the race atmosphere. Anyhoo...enought about me. I was just thinking it would be nice to meet up with you or any other boardsies there just to put faces to the names. What you think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Cool, myself and --amadeus-- are the only 2 I know doing this one so far, however happy to meet up before and/or after :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    there will be a good crowd of boardsies running dungarvan , we must make arrangements for a pre or post race summit

    showry is looking after the toast and myself and Sosa will bring the floury and crusty blaas respectively


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Cycling 50km average speed 31km/h
    Up at 0540 and on the road for 0600. It was a tough spin in miserable wet and windy conditions. Cross wind on the main roads blew me all over the place at times and made it harder work than I really wanted to do! When the going gets tough in a Triathlon this summer I'll think of this spin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭DAVE_K


    How much sleep do you get every night?

    What about your diet?

    You do a lot of training - i'd be interested to see how you're feeling when you're not training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    MCOS wrote: »
    Cycling 50km average speed 31km/h
    Up at 0540 and on the road for 0600. It was a tough spin in miserable wet and windy conditions. Cross wind on the main roads blew me all over the place at times and made it harder work than I really wanted to do! When the going gets tough in a Triathlon this summer I'll think of this spin.

    great stuff MCOS. its easy to train when the conditions are perfect but i think these kind of training days really stand to ya long term.

    as roy castle said "dedication is what you need"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    DAVE_K wrote: »
    How much sleep do you get every night?

    What about your diet?

    You do a lot of training - i'd be interested to see how you're feeling when you're not training.

    Sleep. About 6 hours average. I rarely get to lie. Tuesday evening College, Friday evening collect my son, Wednesday evening swim club, one of the other 2 is reserved for the OH, so its morning training mostly for me. I try to train early mornings as much as I can to avoid the impact of my training on family life.

    Diet. Today as an example, a cereal bar after the cycle. Porridge, banana and honey for breakfast. 3 clementines and 4 ham and cheese sambos for lunch on white bread (often pitta). Tomorrow will be much the same but it may be the end of a shepards pie for lunch. When I cook I usually make enough for 2 big plates plus a lunch. I'll have a chicken hot pot after work (chicken breasts, carrots, cabbage and turnip in a stock) and usually snack on yoghurt and/or cheese and or peanut butter and jam sambo and/or cereal. I'll drink apple or orange juice or make a smoothie too. Out of 14 days this year I've eaten chocolate or biscuits on 4 days(good for me ;))

    Changes I've made gradually and am still creating as habit this year.

    Low fat milk

    No sugar in tea so thats about 28 spoons of sugar gone from my diet so far this year.

    3 pieces of fruit everyday with my lunch at least. At least 2 veg with dinner.

    Only fig rolls in the biscuit tin and they usually come out on the bike. I do snack on them though when I get a longing for chocolate.

    Plan at least 6 dinners a week and shop for them. This is the biggest one. Mostly fresh food and ingredients in the shopping. Dinners cooked from scratch and fresh. I always survey my shopping as it moves through the scan and I'm usually happy with the lack of tins, jars and packets.

    Practically no alcohol. I don't drink pints anymore, glass of Cabernet once in a while.

    Limit the late night eating. Try to cap it at 10pm, next I'll aim for 9pm.

    Treat myself instead of grazing on refined sugar.

    Instead of always having the hot chocolate at night, I'll have it in the morning at the weekend.

    My brother (a PT) is advising me to take a meal replacement shake after heavy workouts which I'm considering.

    Not Training. Beacuse I train in the morning a lot I get usually get tired, grumpy and hungry around 4pm. I have not gone near the vending machine yet this year. I seem to recover quickly enough from training. A day of being lazy gives me a thirst to get back into it. I should probably eat sooner after training in the mornings. Usually done and showered by 8 and don't get the porridge in until 10. Here is where I'm looking at the shakes idea.

    On a rest day I find it hard to settle if I have DOMS and just want to loosen them out, usually have them after an anaerobic set of something. I used to find it hard to rest (ill discipline) but now I see the value in it. On rest days firstly I feel a guilt if its unscheduled or a missed a session. On scheduled rest days I feel calm because my day is not rushed, I get more sleep and I reflect on what is working and not working with my programme at least now that I'm on a programme I do this. I read my training journal/ review monthly goals and whatever else I've been meaning to read. I also reflect on the quality of session and what I enjoyed most rather than just the stats.

    I started running about 2 years ago and basically up to DM08 I ran about 15-20 miles p/w average just to get/keep fit. My marathon mileage came up to about 30-35 p/w. I started swimming last year and averaged 1-2 swims p/w. 2008 was about getting fit to train if you know what I mean. My current programme is the first programme I've been on in years. The first draft was unrealistic but HM gave me some good advice and I asked lots of questions at the club. I follow it as a guide rather than a religious plan.

    I have loads to learn about everything which excites me and I'm quite excited about this year and the new challenges! Hope this answered your questions :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭pgibbo


    Holy smoke Batman, that's some schedule!!! I take my hat off to your self discipline! KUDOS :cool:

    Also, what are DOMS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 918 ✭✭✭MarieC


    very impressive in fairness MCOS!!

    Questions-
    1-when is Adare 10k on and where do I get info?
    2-whats the story with the meal replacement shakes after training? what are they? Why would u take them and where would you get them?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Club swim session.

    50m*8 off 1'05 warm up
    50m*6 kicks, always wrecked after these
    (50m*4 off 1'05/100m*2 off 2'05/200m)*2

    1,900m total. Felt comfortable at this pace tonight.

    TT again next week. My last time was a total surprise so if I get close to it again I'd be happy.



    @pgibbo DOMS is basically stiffness of the muscles trained anaerobically. Delayed onset muscle soreness. Its were there was a build up of lactic acid and it still aches 2-3 days afterwards. When you do an exercise like chin ups or squats for the first time the worked muscles can get sore and feel even stiffer the next day.

    @MarieC
    1. Adare 10k info so far http://www.limerickac.ie/index.php?cmsID=764
    2. The shakes. My brother is a personal trainer and he trained the overall UK body for life champion. After intense workouts she would have a shake like EAS for example that was basically a powder 2 parts protein and 1 part carb I think (or maybe the other way around). I took one after long runs prepping for the DM. Just added 2 scoops to some milk and drank immediately after the run to speed recovery. I ask him for more info and get back to you.


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