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As the Economic Crisis deepens, what will the repurcussions be?

  • 06-10-2008 3:57pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭


    Today may be remembered as Black Monday.

    Stock markets across the world have crashed.

    The British FTSE crashed 8%
    Cac (French) 9%
    Dax (German) 8%

    And we faired with a 10% crash.

    What will you do to keep things ticking over as the credit market freezes up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    I will sit pretty happily knowing that unlike some people i have not fooled myself into a standard of living that i cannot afford by availing of loans and credit cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Yeah ditto. I'm pretty happy not to have a mortgage/debt/stocks/pension right now (not to mention no money :rolleyes:) so as long as I have my job I guess I'll be ok. It sucks though, hard to know how the country will be hit now compared to how it fared in the 80s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭jaycen


    Dragan wrote: »
    I will sit pretty happily knowing that unlike some people i have not fooled myself into a standard of living that i cannot afford by availing of loans and credit cards.


    Pretty much same as, a lot of dillusionals will feel the pain though, if you kept your head over the past couple of years and resisted big debts then you should be fine.

    Guess muy pension took a bit of a hit but seeing as I won't be needing it for another thirty years or so it should be opk then.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,658 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    jaycen wrote: »

    Guess muy pension took a bit of a hit but seeing as I won't be needing it for another thirty years or so it should be opk then.

    Yup, same as me. Lost 10% on the value of my pension. But who knows what it will be like in 40 years time! :D

    The only loan I have is my car. Its at a fixed rate and I could just pay it off as I have enough savings (saving for a house). I know the standard should be to pay off exisiting loans with finances, but in this climate, I would rather hang onto my savings then spend some of it clearing a debt that I can easily afford.

    Worst case scenario, I will have to turn to prostitution. Ive no issues with that that at all. I have a strict ROAR though. Between 18 - 30. No fat chicks. That should do :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    I'm gonna stay drunk till the economy gets back on track...anyone want to join me?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    I'll sit in my rented and paid-off student accomodation, waiting patiently for my scholarship and grant money to come. ;)

    Oh how all of you with mortgages and loans must hate me... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭suspectdevice


    i'm just going to cope the same as any other generation that has seen this type of thing. its nothing new, its cyclical.

    your lives must be so boring just sitting smug on your sofa watching coronation street whilst the years pass you by.

    aint no pockets in the shroud, aint no debt collectors in the graveyard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    I'll sit in my rented and paid-off student accomodation, waiting patiently for my scholarship and grant money to come. ;)

    Oh how all of you with mortgages and loans must hate me... :pac:


    They are not hating you, just waiting for you to start contributing tax to help with this governmental backing of the banks.

    It never ceases to amaze me that they were the top of the food chain and still ****ed it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭jaycen


    i'm just going to cope the same as any other generation that has seen this type of thing. its nothing new, its cyclical.

    your lives must be so boring just sitting smug on your sofa watching coronation street whilst the years pass you by.

    aint no pockets in the shroud, aint no debt collectors in the graveyard


    TBH it's very new, the whole world seems to be caught up in the crisis, last time (80s, I was there - justabout) there was somewhere you could go (US, Aus , etc) to avoid the recession/downturn/depression here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    What a time for me to get into debt for the first time. Its only an overdraft, but still, not much chance of getting a job or grinds atm I think, and still haven't heard from the county council on the grant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Unfortunately, even financially sensible people are going to get screwed as a result of this situation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Sit back and watch how the world copes with it's need to invent a new monetary system not based and growth. Watch how the US govt. realises that it has millions of newly unemployed young people, and decides to send them to war. General worldwide upheavel and 'interesting times.' Should be....er, interesting.

    Also, considering this is affecting the whole world, I'd have thought that everyone will be affected in some way. so not having any debt won't matter I'd have thought.

    I thought the technical definition of a crash was a fall of over 10% or something, which hasn't happened in a Day yet (as of this post). Black October perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I've decided to get through by printing my own money.
    My €50 note features a picture of Kelly Brook with no clothes on, and my €20 note has a cute picture of a puppy in a basket.
    I am willing to sell these notes to you all at face value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I think that the US attacking Syria and Iran at the same time should do the trick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Don't tell me that $700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 we were all debating on here last week has been blown already!?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    I have a student loan, crap job and 100 CVs (at least) sent off. Too poor to leave the country to find my fortunes!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Alessandra wrote: »
    I have a student loan, crap job and 100 CVs (at least) sent off. Too poor to leave the country to find my fortunes!!!!

    you have assets you may never have thought of. sure who needs two kidneys anyway!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Is Dalkey Island inhabited??? I was thinking of taking a tent over there and a few months supplies, to get some respite from this stuff!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    Don't tell me that $700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 we were all debating on here last week has been blown already!?!?!

    Surprisingly enough, they gave it to the people who pissed it away in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Dragan wrote: »
    They are not hating you, just waiting for you to start contributing tax to help with this governmental backing of the banks.

    Well, I have to pay DIRT. Does that help? (My knowledge of tax is very limited)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Stateside, college students everywhere are watching their student loan plans dry up. The end result will eventually be a disaster. Unemployment is already getting crazy - think about how much more it could be going up when the pool of graduates runs out as well. Some industries are already at a loss. I'd be violating an NDA to tell you which, but there are some major companies out there which simply can't find the right people for critical positions.
    Watch how the US govt. realises that it has millions of newly unemployed young people, and decides to send them to war.

    Watch where you place the blame though there. I'm already giving strong thought to enlisting. Its about the only thing that will still be hiring in a years time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭Alessandra


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    you have assets you may never have thought of. sure who needs two kidneys anyway!?

    Great thinking.. $$$$$$$$$ How much would a good kidney make me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I guess we can look forward to dodgy governments coming to power around the world and 10 years of war as a result. Coming up to the 100th anniversary of WW1 and all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Turd Ferguson


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    Is Dalkey Island inhabited??? I was thinking of taking a tent over there and a few months supplies, to get some respite from this stuff!

    You'll need to bring your laptop, otherwise we'll miss you :p


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    The reactionary nature of world markets was always going to see some sort of horrible fall like this. I find it best to think of those with the money to spend as small children.
    Buy Buy Buy! Ah Its down! Sell Sell Sell!

    It's issues such as negative equity that worry me if I want to continue living in Ireland. (Thank God I dont own a house). Also the prospect of Dell leaving Limerick. That'll **** things up a lot.
    We just really really need infrastructure spending now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Balcony Bum


    I'm gonna stay drunk till the economy gets back on track...anyone want to join me?
    Yup. I've been drunk all through the boom, so I'll stay drunk for the recession. Glug glug glug


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Sky news are nwo calling today "Meltdown Monday"


    Cue The bangles...!!!

    It's just another Meltdown Monday,
    Wish it was Sunday,
    That's my funday...!!!

    Lads it's grand, everyone stop panicking, Peter Mandelson is back to sort it all out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Meltdown Monday!

    Topple Tuesday!

    Windup Wednesday!

    Thermonuclear Thursday!

    TGIF...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Yup. I've been drunk all through the boom, so I'll stay drunk for the recession. Glug glug glug

    Ah, a banker are we?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭tipp86


    Just dont pay off the loans which in turn will bust the banks hence no debt

    Although mightnt appeal to those with no money in the bank

    This recessions great - my part time job the factory has shut down - there judging redundancys on last year when i made a fortune - so a nice €20000 could be coming my way.

    Not bad for a college student who was going to be leaving the part time job in may

    Nice brag i must say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    tipp86 wrote: »
    Just dont pay off the loans which in turn will bust the banks hence no debt

    The bank's debts will be sold off as assets to people who may not be as patient as your local friendly bank manager in getting their money back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    latenia wrote: »
    The bank's debts will be sold off as assets to people who may not be as patient as your local friendly bank manager in getting their money back.

    +1


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I was thinking of going out for Hallowe'en as negative equity.
    Now that'll frighten the fanny mae right out of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,688 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Well I have no debt bar the mortgage which is fixed until 2010. No other loans and no overdrafts or credit card debt etc..... saving like mad for the last while for the wedding next year so kinda used to living frugally anyway!

    God only knows what the mortgage interest will be like in 2010 though. :eek:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    I was thinking of going out for Hallowe'en as negative equity.
    Now that'll frighten the fanny mae right out of you.

    And I'll go as Fannie Mae, and everytime I shout 'BAILOUT!' someone has to throw me a can of beer. Preferably someone dressed as 'The Fed.' Oh wow...so many possibilities!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    The DOW is Down 747.17 (7.24%)

    Astonishing figures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    -723.60

    its fluctuating a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    The DOW is Down 747.17 (7.24%)

    Astonishing figures

    C'mon you gotta be more sensationalist than that....something along the lines of "The Catastrophic fall of the Dow on Black Monday has resulted in the Apocalypse....THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    C'mon you gotta be more sensationalist than that....something along the lines of "The Catastrophic fall of the Dow on Black Monday has resulted in the Apocalypse....THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!"

    I will do that when if it were to hit -1000, because then it would be truly
    unreal and scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    All this talk of stocks and shares etc. What I want to know is, how much is a T-Bone steak in Shanahans 'on the green' now?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    C'mon you gotta be more sensationalist than that....something along the lines of "The Catastrophic fall of the Dow on Black Monday has resulted in the Apocalypse....THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!"

    The apocalypse started a while back. See sig.

    I will embrace the new changes. Society and human kind in general has lost it way. I have a gun so bring it on :D


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,658 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Same prick as a kilo of crack. Hahaha, bone and crack. Giggidy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭minxie


    The apocalypse started a while back. See sig.

    I will embrace the new changes. Society and human kind in general has lost it way. I have a gun so bring it on :D
    are you looking for any recruits??? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    On the plus side Oil continues to fall, lowest since Feb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Jim Cramer, host of CNBC's "Mad Money" and dedicated yelling enthusiast is apparently no longer content to behave strangely on his own television program, so he's taking the crazy to the Today Show.

    In our latest episode, Cramer tearfully informs Ann Curry that the time has come for some of you who are dabbling in the stock market to make a hasty retreat. If you're going to need access to your money in less than 5 years... sell! No matter what.

    What Jim is trying to say, through the tears, is that if you're planning on needing your money within 5 years — you shouldn't be investing in individual stocks.

    “I don’t care where stocks have been, I care where they’re going, and I don’t want people to get hurt in the market,” Cramer told Curry. “I’m worried about unemployment, I’m worried about purchases that you may need. I can’t have you at risk in the stock market.”
    RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,064 ✭✭✭minxie


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    On the plus side Oil continues to fall, lowest since Feb.
    true,, but they arent passing that drop on to
    us mere mortals..:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Daithi McGee


    minxie1 wrote: »
    are you looking for any recruits??? :pac:


    lol no. I meant the greek bit about Armageddon has begun!

    Did you not get the memo? It has been circulating for quite sometime...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    antodeco wrote:
    Same prick as a kilo of crack. Hahaha, bone and crack. Giggidy

    :eek::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    Don't tell me that $700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 we were all debating on here last week has been blown already!?!?!
    Sorry 'bout that. :o I thought that lap dancer genuinely liked me. Manipulative bitch! :mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    lap dancers don't genuinely like anyone


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