Sadistic boy, 7, feeds live reptiles to crocodile

Demonique

By Rebekah Cavanagh
October 03, 2008 07:05am

PARENTS of a seven-year-old who fed lizards to a crocodile during a reptile park break-in are likely to face civil action.

The boy broke into a Northern Territory reptile farm and sadistically fed a stream of its main exhibits to the resident 3m crocodile.

He also bludgeoned three lizards to death in their pens.

Police cannot charge the boy because of his age, the NT News reports.

But the centre's director Red Neindorf said today he was disgusted by the incident, and vowed to take civil action against the family of the boy, whom he has described as a "ratbag".

"We just want to see some action taken against the people who were in charge of the child, whether it be the parents or the guardian," Mr Neindorf said.

"We want people to know that you just can't go out and do these things ... we just want to see someone take responsibility."

Security camera video footage clearly shows every move of the youngster's 35-minute rampage.

One CCTV image shows him with a big smile on his face as he watches the saltie splash around its pool as it attacks a northern blue tongue lizard.

Security camera video footage clearly shows every move of the youngster's 35-minute rampage.

One CCTV image shows him with a big smile on his face as he watches the saltie splash around its pool as it attacks a northern blue tongue lizard.

The malicious foray happened at the Alice Springs Reptile Centre in broad daylight between about 8am and 8.30am on Wednesday.

Mr Neindorf said the behaviour was "disgusting".

"I'm just devastated at the age of the child and the fact no-one wants to take responsiblity," he said.

"The fact a seven-year-old can wreak so much havoc in such a short time, let alone even think of doing something like this, is unbelievable.

"If it was back in my day he'd get a big boot up the arse."

Mr Neindorf said 10 reptiles - a turtle, four western blue tongue lizards, two bearded dragons, two thorny devils and an adult female Spencer's goanna - were thrown into the jaws of the 200kg crocodile named Terry.

A further three lizards - a blue tongue and two thorny devils - were found dead after being "brutally bludgeoned".


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I can't get over the number of morons in the comments section defending the boy's actions, including

and watching a big croc doing what it does best would be great fun for a young fella his age

and I think he is a normal little boy, living in the real world not some imaginary landscape

Onikage

The nicest thing I can say is that the BBC story mentions that he tried to get into the croc enclosure himself(!) so he's probably mentally defective rather than evil.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7649876.stm

Demonique

Onikage wrote: »

The nicest thing I can say is that the BBC story mentions that he tried to get into the croc enclosure himself(!) so he's probably mentally defective rather than evil.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7649876.stm

So what? I'd still have thrown him to the croc if I'd caught him in the act or at least given him a severe thrashing

Killme00

The question should be how he was able to do it. Was he left unsupervised for 35 minutes at a reptile farm?

mary123

Killme00 wrote: »

The question should be how he was able to do it. Was he left unsupervised for 35 minutes at a reptile farm?

Exactly, a 7 yr old is still only a baby, he should not be left out by himself. Has to be something wrong if he could do this.
1. Where were his parents
2. How did he get in unnoticed
3. where has a child this age seen this behaviour?

As for saying he should of been throwing in think that is a bit to much, he is still a child, something has to be wrong a normal child/adult does not act like this. He needs help. Maybe its his parents that needs a thrashing.

BeansMeansHynes

That child is disturbed. Certainly not your average 7 year old boy anyway.

It doesnt sound like it is the first time he has killed animals. Most serial killers started off killing animals when they were small.

lostinnappies

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055391264

as i said in the same thread in parenting

so how did he get so close to them in the first place and why wasnt his parents paying any attention... it was a 35 min rampage. Thats neglect and his behavour only reinforces my suspision that the parents are more to blame then the child. "you write on their slate of who they are" to quote dr. phill. Sorry i just had to lol.

So disgusted had to say it twice

tallus

mary123 wrote: »

Exactly, a 7 yr old is still only a baby, he should not be left out by himself. Has to be something wrong if he could do this.
1. Where were his parents
2. How did he get in unnoticed
3. where has a child this age seen this behaviour?

As for saying he should of been throwing in think that is a bit to much, he is still a child, something has to be wrong a normal child/adult does not act like this. He needs help. Maybe its his parents that needs a thrashing.

I agree, it has to be something Learned... it's just not natural for a kid of that age to be so cruel. If he was of adult age he would be charged and touch wood...doing hard time.

Hendrix89

Shocking... absolutely shocking...

Hearing depressing stories like thus really affect me..

This shouldn't have been happened! Where was the security!? If the compound can't keep out a 7yr old boy it's surely useless...

I once owned a Bearded Dragon.. Beautiful, intelligent creatures, capable of love and affection.. To think that two of these friendly and harmless animals met their fate at the hands of this evil being is just heart breaking..

So what if he's a young child! He'll do it again if he thinks he can get away with it!! Why can't mass killings of animals be treated more seriously!!

DarkJager

Isn't 7 supposed the age at which children can distiguish right from wrong? Its sick to think that this horrible excuse for a child found absolutley nothing wrong with what he did. Its just a pity he didn't fall in....

mary123

DarkJager wrote: »

Isn't 7 supposed the age at which children can distiguish right from wrong? Its sick to think that this horrible excuse for a child found absolutley nothing wrong with what he did. Its just a pity he didn't fall in....

This is my point. Yes a "normal" 7 yr old should. There has to be something wrong with him. Isnt now the right time to get him help, before he gets worst.

Also think comments like this if this is what he has to hear is not going to help him.

Hendrix89

mary123 wrote: »

This is my point. Yes a "normal" 7 yr old should. There has to be something wrong with him. Isnt now the right time to get him help, before he gets worst.

Yes but he needs to be punished in order to prevent him from doing this kind of thing again. It's common sense. He needs to know what he did was wrong.

MayMay

Whoever said a 7 year old is only a baby??? You're wrong. I have a 7 year old nephew who could buy and sell us all. That child needs a SERIOUS talking to. He should be made accountable for what he's done wrong. Named and shamed and some form of punishment must be given to him. What a sick little kid to do that. God knows what kind of evil individual he's going to turn out to be if he isn't punished for this. Obviously his parents are accountable but they're not the ones who did this. For all we know they could be lovely people, they just have an evil kid on their hands. Either way it's them that will get the brunt of this as nothing can be done to the little brat probably.

DarkJager

Why sugar coat it for him Mary?? He should be told exactly what he is and that nothing about what he did is anything more than depraved violence for the sake of it.


If it was my son, he'd be locked up nice and tight in a psych ward now..

cowzerp

Its a shame the croc did not catch the little airhole and eat him slowly eating limb by limb till he met his end.
but not all stories have happy endings.

mary123

MayMay wrote: »

Whoever said a 7 year old is only a baby??? You're wrong. I have a 7 year old nephew who could buy and sell us all. That child needs a SERIOUS talking to. He should be made accountable for what he's done wrong. Named and shamed and some form of punishment must be given to him. What a sick little kid to do that. God knows what kind of evil individual he's going to turn out to be if he isn't punished for this. Obviously his parents are accountable but they're not the ones who did this. For all we know they could be lovely people, they just have an evil kid on their hands. Either way it's them that will get the brunt of this as nothing can be done to the little brat probably.

Can really tell u aint got kids, i would think a 7 yr old that could buy and sell u as well is not a typical 7 yr old either. When i said a baby didnt mean a Baby baby what i meant was at 7 they should still be under the care of their parents. A 7 yr old should be supervised at all times. What about the dangers of strangers, cars among other things. A typial 7 yr old is usually at this age is still very impressionable, doing what others do. I know my 8 yr old is still learning of me and his siblings so what im trying to say is where did this behaviour come from.
Yes this child has doing something that if he was an adult i would be saying what u are saying but come on, his a kid. A person is not born evil. And i dont really think this prob the first time he has done something bad like this, so my point is why wasnt something done before now.
I know if my 8 yr old didnt something like this know matter what it costs i would be doing something. Then again maybe the parents are.

estebancambias

LOL...some absolute tossers on here anyway.

mary123

estebancambias wrote: »

LOL...some absolute tossers on here anyway.

Who. me.

Hendrix89

estebancambias wrote: »

LOL...some absolute tossers on here anyway.

What are you then? Bringing humor into this thread is a bit heartless if you ask me.. Your better off not posting at all.

Demonique

cowzerp wrote: »

Its a shame the croc did not catch the little airhole and eat him slowly eating limb by limb till he met his end.
but not all stories have happy endings.

http://www.angelfire.com/scary/dougstuff/animation/Rippy_the_Gator.swf

Just a flash animation with a song about Rippy the Gator



Also, more on the story:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article4874657.ece

Apparently his brother took part in an attack on Terry the croc a few years ago

junkyard

Sounds to me like the whole family should be fed to the croc!:mad:

Duzzie

There is absolutely no excuse for behavoir like this, none at all. No normal kid would behave in such a malicious way, however his parents should shoulder the bulk of the blame. Kids do not act like this with out warning signs.

The zoo should sue the asses off the parents, but unfortunately that will not compensate the loss of the animals, the stress caused to the animals and the stress caused to the people who work damn hard to care for the animals only to see some little brat ruin their hard work.

People really make me sick sometimes, we are meant to be the civillised ones.

TelePaul

He's seven, seven year olds are terrors.

TelePaul

Hendrix89 wrote: »

What are you then? Bringing humor into this thread is a bit heartless if you ask me.. Your better off not posting at all.

Know what else is heartless? Wishing that the kid was eaten by the crocodile.

Hendrix89

TelePaul wrote: »

Know what else is heartless? Wishing that the kid was eaten by the crocodile.

I didn't say anything like that. I do however believe this child needs to be punished so he's less likely to do this cruel act again. If he doesn't get some discipline more animals will suffer.

Duzzie

Hendrix89 wrote: »

I didn't say anything like that. I do however believe this child needs to be punished so he's less likely to do this cruel act again. If he doesn't get some discipline more animals will suffer.

Till he gets bored with animals and moves on to humans. Jeffrey Dahmer started out with animals. His actions were not the actions of a normal 7 year old

mary123

But thats the point, his actions arnt normal. so isnt it know that something should be done.

CDfm

I posted on the parenting thread

7 yos believe in Santa and tooth fairies

You guys are unreal - he could have been playing Steve Irwin crocadile hunter.

TG the little guy is safe -the zoo or whatever it is should be closed for its inadequete security- crocs are dangerous.

I grew up in the country and animals have a different place on the foodchain,

Fishing hunting and killing vermin is allowed. So get real.

AS one poster posted on parenting-if the child was injured there would have been different headlines and you would all be moaning about that.

Bet it was one happy croc.:D Maybe if the polar bears in Dublin zoo had got live fish life would have been happier.

Cats all over ireland kill 2 or 3 birds each a month. Lets lock up their owners.

Duzzie

CDfm wrote: »

I posted on the parenting thread

7 yos believe in Santa and tooth fairies

You guys are unreal - he could have been playing Steve Irwin crocadile hunter.

TG the little guy is safe -the zoo or whatever it is should be closed for its inadequete security- crocs are dangerous.

I grew up in the country and animals have a different place on the foodchain,

Fishing hunting and killing vermin is allowed. So get real.

AS one poster posted on parenting-if the child was injured there would have been different headlines and you would all be moaning about that.

Bet it was one happy croc.:D Maybe if the polar bears in Dublin zoo had got live fish life would have been happier.

Cats all over ireland kill 2 or 3 birds each a month. Lets lock up their owners.

I grew up surrounded by wild animals, snakes, spiders and other creepy crawlies. At no time did I ever think it was ok to act in such a way, but then I was bought up to respect animals. As I said, we are meant to be the civillised ones. Animals dont know any better, we do.

There is no way that a child of that age should have been left un supervised but it is the apparent pleasure that the boy took in his actions that is so shocking. As for playing Steve Irwin, I have never seen any Steve Irwin show that in anyway contains such animal cruilty like this and very much doubt that anyone would get the idea that such behavior is ok from a Steve Irwin show.

TelePaul

Hendrix89 wrote: »

I didn't say anything like that. I do however believe this child needs to be punished so he's less likely to do this cruel act again. If he doesn't get some discipline more animals will suffer.

I didn't mean to infer that YOU said that. Although such sentiments were expressed by other posters.

TelePaul

Duzzie wrote: »

Animals dont know any better, we do.

Not all seven year olds do.

Hendrix89

Duzzie wrote: »

I grew up surrounded by wild animals, snakes, spiders and other creepy crawlies. At no time did I ever think it was ok to act in such a way, but then I was bought up to respect animals. As I said, we are meant to be the civillised ones. Animals dont know any better, we do.

There is no way that a child of that age should have been left un supervised but it is the apparent pleasure that the boy took in his actions that is so shocking. As for playing Steve Irwin, I have never seen any Steve Irwin show that in anyway contains such animal cruilty like this and very much doubt that anyone would get the idea that such behavior is ok from a Steve Irwin show.

Very well said.

Respect for wildlife is what makes a good human being.

Duzzie

TelePaul wrote: »

Not all seven year olds do.

They should be properly supervised then.

TelePaul

Duzzie wrote: »

They should be properly supervised then.

Agreed. The kid wasn't. Doesn't mean he deserves to die, as someone said.

CDfm

Duzzie wrote: »

I grew up surrounded by wild animals, snakes, spiders and other creepy crawlies. At no time did I ever think it was ok to act in such a way, but then I was bought up to respect animals. As I said, we are meant to be the civillised ones. Animals dont know any better, we do.

There is no way that a child of that age should have been left un supervised but it is the apparent pleasure that the boy took in his actions that is so shocking. As for playing Steve Irwin, I have never seen any Steve Irwin show that in anyway contains such animal cruilty like this and very much doubt that anyone would get the idea that such behavior is ok from a Steve Irwin show.

I am not condoning animal cruelty .

Just pointing out that the world from a 7 yos perception is very different to an adults.

AS for no animals being hurt on Steve Irwins show - what do you think the feed the crocs on - baby rice:P

Now can you see the connection -give a kid a hose and he is putting out firesand he is Fireman SAm - a rope swing and he is Tarzan - lizards and crocs and he is........

AS the Duke of Wellington said "Because you are born in a stable -doesnt make you a horse"

Duzzie

CDfm wrote: »

I am not condoning animal cruelty .

Just pointing out that the world from a 7 yos perception is very different to an adults.

AS for no animals being hurt on Steve Irwins show - what do you think the feed the crocs on - baby rice:P

Now can you see the connection -give a kid a hose and he is putting out firesand he is Fireman SAm - a rope swing and he is Tarzan - lizards and crocs and he is........

AS the Duke of Wellington said "Because you are born in a stable -doesnt make you a horse"

No crocs dont eat baby rice. What has feeding humanely culled meat, which is usually carved and generally unreccognisable from the living animal got to do with animal cruelty?? In my post I said " I have never seen any Steve Irwin show that in anyway contains such animal cruilty like this". Feeding animals in such a way is not animal cruetly. So no, the shows do not show any animals being hurt.
Are you suggesting that if a kid sees someone eating a steak on TV, they are going to get the idea that it is ok for him to go out and kill an animal and start eating it?? Kids are not as stupid as you seem to think they are. That kid knew what he was doing and he took great pleasure out of doing it. Feeding animals was a very small part of the Steve Irwin shows. Did the kid try to wrestle with the croc lile he saw on Steve Irwin, a much more common theme on his shows??

How often do you hear storys like this?? It is a very rare event, hence the publicity. Most kids know that such behavoir is wrong and would not contemplate doing it. At the same time, what parent in their right mind would let a 7 year old child run around a zoo by itself in this day and age?

CDfm

Duzzie wrote: »

No crocs dont eat baby rice. What has feeding humanely culled meat, which is usually carved and generally unreccognisable from the living animal got to do with animal cruelty?? In my post I said " I have never seen any Steve Irwin show that in anyway contains such animal cruilty like this". Feeding animals in such a way is not animal cruetly. So no, the shows do not show any animals being hurt.
Are you suggesting that if a kid sees someone eating a steak on TV, they are going to get the idea that it is ok for him to go out and kill an animal and start eating it?? Kids are not as stupid as you seem to think they are. That kid knew what he was doing and he took great pleasure out of doing it. Feeding animals was a very small part of the Steve Irwin shows. Did the kid try to wrestle with the croc lile he saw on Steve Irwin, a much more common theme on his shows??

How often do you hear storys like this?? It is a very rare event, hence the publicity. Most kids know that such behavoir is wrong and would not contemplate doing it. At the same time, what parent in their right mind would let a 7 year old child run around a zoo by itself in this day and age?

a 7 year old does not often think of their actions as having consequences in the same way as an adult does.

They dont know that if they hold a puppy to tightly they can crush him or if the pupply dies its gone awy to puppy heaven.

To understand it put yourself in a 7 yos shoes -has a child ever run off on you in a shopping centre ?

Yes children born on farms and in the country make the connection between living things and food. Kids are the ultimate consumers thats what they do.

At the same time what ef**** eejit left the zoo so f****** accessable for one child and its great it was only one to get access and run around for 35 minites with child eating crocs undetected. They released the CCTV footage -what about the muppet how was supposed to be monitoring it and his boss where are they.And will they get the same prominance.

Believe me -that it was only lizards that got eaten was the best outcome.

carwash_2006

Holding a puppy too tightly is a very different thing to deliberately taking a rock and bashing in the brains of any animal.

I do feel sorry for this child that noone has ever paid enough attention and interest in his life that he is firstly able to break into a park like this - I do not believe that the security is poor on a place like this, just not designed for small personages like this that should not be running around near there on their own. Then having gotten into the place is capable of the acts committed.

The parents shouls be held responsible, but the child should be assessed by the appropriate authorities and action should be taken so that we won't in 15 years time be seeing headlines of how the depraved serial killer of umpteen people broke into a zoo when he was 7 and killed these animals.

CDfm

where does the jump to serial killer come from?

where does the info on the child come from that no-one is interested in him. Im just interested -do you have anything to substantiate this?

Stheno

Personally I'm interested in the fact that this happened in Australia, home of Steve Irwin who went on tv with his young kids, and showed them feeding crocodiles at one point.

How much did that influence this young boy?

Seeing a child his age on tv feeding crocodiles, versus what he did?

Now I'm against what he did, and do agree that in many many circumstances if not all, it's one of the signs of sociopathy, but given the footage of Irwin and his kids, is this not a mitigating factor???

I've a beardie of my own who loves to sit on my shoulder and watch tv, can't imagine an end like those poor animals suffered, but lack of parental supervision, plus Steve and Bindi on tv feeding crocs?

The parents have a part to play no doubt imo, but tv also is liable here, rather Steve Irwin et al are.

CDfm

I must agree here -didnt Steve Irwin meet his untimely end by being too friendly to wildlife.


They dont show his final moments - that would stop repeats of the show. You want your animals cuddly but they are not.

Steves kids do it why cant I.

Are the Irwin kids sociopaths-should be by your definition -they feed dead animals to crocs.

Stheno

CDfm wrote: »

Steves kids do it why cant I.

Are the Irwin kids sociopaths-should be by your definition -they feed dead animals to crocs.

Two points here

Firstly Steve's kids fed dead animals to crocs, so sociopathy doesn't come into it, if I feed pinkies to my beardies am I a socio/psychopath?

Secondly I agree with the *if Steve's kids do it why can't I* from a kids perspective, but I question the lack of adult supervision.

CDfm

but the kids dont see that

at leat WWE wrestling gives warnings Crocadile Hunter doesnt.

whats a beardie?

Stheno

CDfm wrote: »

but the kids dont see that

at leat WWE wrestling gives warnings Crocadile Hunter doesnt.

whats a beardie?

Well that's more spreading the responsibility then, down to the broadcasting authorities who allow such stuff to be shown before the watershed, if indeed it's shown then?

A beardie is a bearded dragon

CDfm

nouggatti wrote: »

Well that's more spreading the responsibility then, down to the broadcasting authorities who allow such stuff to be shown before the watershed, if indeed it's shown then?

A beardie is a bearded dragon

it is I watch it

your point?

Stheno

CDfm wrote: »

it is I watch it

your point?

If it's shown before the watershed, then if I were a parent I would expect it to be suitable

That said the current watershed is nine pm, which is after most seven year olds are in bed, so does the watershed need to be reviewed, or do parents need to rely less on regulatory standards and more on reviewing what their children are watching??

The argument is now probably O/T for pets and animal issues, apologies to the mods, I'll move over to parenting if there is a similiar thread there.

thanks

Clare Bear

I have a 7 year old nephew. If he did something like this I would kill him! He kicked a dog when he was 3.....believe me after a few words with me he didn't do it again (don't worry I didn't beat the crap out of him or anything!) and I made sure he had a dog so that he would grow up with animals and have respect for them. This child seriously needs help. It's horrific. I'd hate to see that CCTV footage....smiling while he was attacking those innocent creatures? I'd like to know what kind of upbringing he has because a well brought up child would not do something like that.

junkyard

It's the parents are at fault here from where I see it, if the kid and his brother were shown any respect for animals by their parents this kind of thing wouldn't happen. Some people shouldn't even have kids never mind animals, they should be sterilised and protect other people from them and their offspring.

togster

lol at people wishing he was eaten limb by limb.

Perspective for god sake.

I do agree the kid should be punished. His parents too.

CDfm

what about the security at the zoo?

I have never told my kids not to break into the zoo at night - and if they do - not to take some some small animals and drop them in the lion enclosure.

Frankly,there has never seemed to be the need.

AS for pulling legs of spiders - thought it better not to give them ideas.

On a related issues in Malahide Ive often seen kids crab fishing and invariably crabs get killed and sometimes "escapees" get terminated parents watching and all. That doest make the kids sociopaths and no-ones putting them into care.

Kinda think there are a lot of double standards here.

Whispered

When the seal hunters died you had people on saying thats it Karma and stuff like that. People need to realise that statements like that lead to everyone with an interest in animal rights, being laughed at and not taken seriously.

I would be of the opinion that the parents should be punished, how do you not notice your child missing for 35 mins? If parents were punished for what their underage kids do then you can guarantee that there would be a lot fewer little b****rds going around.

The zoo itself should take some responsibility for the lack of security. Or at least review their security.

Most importantly IMO, the child should be made understand beyond any doubt that what he did is wrong. If he gets away with it, who's to say he wont do it again.