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Religulous

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Looks like it could be a bit of fun alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Yeah been looking forward to this for ages. Cheers for the links, I love both Bill Maher and Jon Stewart :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The dialy show site launched its own forum (dont get excited, its not very polished) and the interview with maher is getting destroyed by some religious viewers. I had fun replying to them :)

    this guy especially, is just asking to be humiliated imo: http://forum.thedailyshow.com/tds/board/message?board.id=13123&message.id=367#M367
    The Irish are weak Catholics. They ought be stronger, but they have the Kennedys who keep pushing their heads under water, especially up there in the NE. But this is Texas, the buckle of the Bible Belt, we don't cart the enemy around in wheelbarrows so that everyone can hear their message and try to decide for themselves. With all the criticism of American education you ought to know that 95% of Americans don't think, they just follow. They are content to let others do the thinking for them, especially when it's funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Múinteoir


    The full movie is already on youtube. Put up on Christmas day, interestingly enough! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    This looks pretty funny. I like the way he bashes all religions and not just Christianity, a bit of variety is always good. I'm just thankful he's not a smug bastard:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭barfizz


    I really have to check this out, Bill Maher is intelligent and funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Watched this a few days ago: there was quite a bit that I hadn't heard of before, such as why he went to Megiddo for the opening and closing segments. The funniest bits IMHO came from the Vatican, which left me wondering just what's in that smoke they use to signal the election of a new Pope. The ending is pretty powerful stuff. I thought it could be longer, and I read that they have lots more material for the DVD or online.

    I think the complaints people have about the film have a lot to do with misunderstanding about where Maher is coming from, even though he tries to clear that up at the start. He's a stand-up comedian, not an anthropologist, and humour is central to how he sees religion. Even his closing statement is funny, despite its seriousness, and the general feeling that there's plenty going on that's worth getting angry about.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I quite enjoyed his interaction with the truckers at the chapel. It was pleasant :)

    "Hey where's my wallet?!" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    A big fan of Bill mahers political commentary. I watched his Real Time show via youtube....eh.....Religilously :D Wacthing him rippping the piss out of Sarah palin week in week out for 2 months was brilliant :D

    He's a perfect example of compartmentalisation though where a person can be rational about one thing but have wacko views on another. He believes modern medicine is a fraud and all disease is caused by a bad diet!!!

    Watched this the other night after 'some of my peers' :D sent it to me over the internet. :D

    Very funny especially when he would make his "I can't quite believe what I am hearing face". The face on that senator when Bill pointed out a contradiction in something the senator said regarding the bible or religion. Something so obvious to any of us and and you could see it in the senators eyes, "Duh, never thought about it that way" He then smuggly says, "Hey there aint no IQ test to be a senator har har." The look on Bills face, "he said it, not me!! " :D

    It was really quite sad though. The guy leading the human Genome project. I always thought that he must beleive because of his work on the complexity of genes leading him down the intelligent design path or that he was just a deist rather than a theist because of some heavy duty philosophical reasoning about 'first cause' of the quantom fluctuactions before the big bang blah blah. Something we might stilll scoff at but with some deeper thought involved than the reasoning of the average joes in the rest of the film. Not so, he believed for the same nonsensical reasons as the truck drivers!!

    Its just really really sad why the average joes believe as they do. Again although I can just about understand how some more intellectual debators could be deists due to some philosopical reasoning about the creation of the universe and think they are making a massive leap from , "something must have created the universe" to believing in the proclamations of bronze age goat herders from an arid land on the east coast of the mediterranian circa 2000 years ago. Ie I can understand how you reasoned yourself into becoming a deist but how did you become a theist. But listening to some of the average joes reasoning, its just so patently....I am sorry...stupid, i just really feel for them.

    You have intellectuals using faulty logic as reasons to believe, you have average joes not using what few braincells they have. Some of these people looked like they didn't even know what the word contradiction meant for crying out loud. Then you have the masses in between. People that just beleive because of societal pressure and are afraid to give it much thought in case they reason themselves out of their security blanket. Lazy people. Its too much work to examine all the evidence or lack thereof, they've got more important things to do than ponder some philosophical questions in their head. "Hmm, I could sit down this one night and ponder the nature of the universe ........or I could go for a beer......MMMNNN Beeeeer". A lot of these people couldn't care less whether there was or wasn't a god, "Whatever Dude!" not bothered thinking about it so just accept the default position and whats the default position in most societies? Belief in God! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    I just finished watching that movie and must say I had lots of fun. If you have free evening and want to watch good comendy, turn the "Religulous" on!

    This will stuck in my mind for a while:

    "Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don't have all the answers to think that they do."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Goduznt Xzst


    watched it as well last week. Personally I thought it was a haberdashery of points and jibes. None of them felt thought out or particularly jarring. In particular, when he started going on about the myths behind the Jesus story and Horus, it just made him look like a hack.

    Overall it's bemusing to listen to fanatics, fundamentalists and idiotic government officials, but he is doing nothing to add anything to the argument at large with this documentary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    Well yeah, this film was made to show the irrationality of several popular religions, and to show how different they are from each other and later, how different people interpret same words into different meanings. And later, how they excuse wars, conflicts etc.

    Of course it's well known fact and most of people won't learn too much form this movie, but Bill Mahers is a comedian and his just doing what he can do best, making fun of people.

    I'd classify this film as a documentary-comedy, together with "911".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Sonderval


    Overall it's bemusing to listen to fanatics, fundamentalists and idiotic government officials, but he is doing nothing to add anything to the argument at large with this documentary

    I dont think that was his objective tbh. The argument has been made many, many times over by people more eloquent and capable then Maher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭mickeydevine


    "Dude your hairs on fire":D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Goduznt Xzst


    Sonderval wrote: »
    I dont think that was his objective tbh. The argument has been made many, many times over by people more eloquent and capable then Maher.

    Really? His final monologue in the documentary would seem to say otherwise.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Religulous is being shown as part of the Dublin International Film Festival on February 18th at 1800h in Cineworld on Parnell Street:

    http://jdiff.ticketsolve.com/events/events_for_show/702423

    Anybody on for it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    I saw it.





    Not great...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    watched it as well last week. Personally I thought it was a haberdashery of points and jibes. None of them felt thought out or particularly jarring. In particular, when he started going on about the myths behind the Jesus story and Horus, it just made him look like a hack.

    Overall it's bemusing to listen to fanatics, fundamentalists and idiotic government officials, but he is doing nothing to add anything to the argument at large with this documentary.

    I found myself feeling this too, but given the people he was speaking to, the usual logical arguments would have been wasted, I find reading this forum more informative overall.

    It was more of a fly on the wall with some antagonism thrown in for good measure, as there were no real confrontation of ideas at a fundamental level, but entertaining none the less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    I would put it on the same level as Expelled, tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    While it wasn't the most compelling documentary I found it to be quite good all the same. It gave me a few laugh out loud moments which was all I was hoping for from a film by a stand up comedian.

    You have to admire the questions he asked though. If I was in a portable church with a load of huge religious truckers I definately wouldn't say the stuff he said. Although the priest they interviewed outside the Vatican was a cheap shot. The man seemed a bit mad to me.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Certainly not the greatest film ever made, but it does have a few laughs and does make a few good points.
    fitz0 wrote: »
    Although the priest they interviewed outside the Vatican was a cheap shot. The man seemed a bit mad to me.
    If that's the guy I'm thinking of, his name is Reginald Foster and he's regarded in the Vatican as a loose cannon and no doubt, probably the only guy there who would agree to speak with Maher.

    Foster's main interest in life is Latin and he's a passionate advocate and teacher of the language. Amongst other things he provides free classes and free tours around Rome for anybody who's interested in the language. He shows up on the BBC from time to time and can be very funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Thats the guy. Just googled him and I must say I love the description on his wikipedia page-

    "He has gained recognition as a voice of common sense in Bill Maher's 2008 documentary Religulous."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    Religulous was great fun. Was it released in the cinemas here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Haven't seen it, but might give it a look. tbh, though, his tactics in making it (specifically giving his potential interviewees the impression that he was making a film exploring the ideas of faith more kindly than was the fact) reminded me a little too strongly of Expelled...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭pts


    Overblood wrote: »
    Religulous was great fun. Was it released in the cinemas here?
    According to imdb it had a UK release earlier this month. Doesn't say anything about Ireland though. Maybe it suffered the same fate (faith) as "Life of Brian", banned for for blasphemy, then gets its release after 8 years. :)

    I thought it was a very good film. It pokes fun at some of the absurdities of faith.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Downloaded it a while back. As a doumentary its not the most balanced, but it sure is funny!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭Múinteoir


    It's all on youtube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Lighthouse cinema show it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    fitz0 wrote: »
    Although the priest they interviewed outside the Vatican was a cheap shot. The man seemed a bit mad to me.

    Ah I don't think that was a cheapshot. They were kicked out of one of the buildings so obviously weren't very welcome. As Bill said, he's been on their "shitlist" for quite some time. Father Reggie was probably the only priest they could get.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Overblood wrote: »
    Ah I don't think that was a cheapshot. They were kicked out of one of the buildings so obviously weren't very welcome. As Bill said, he's been on their "shitlist" for quite some time. Father Reggie was probably the only priest they could get.

    hehe i thought that guy was a legend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭Pacifico


    Lighthouse cinema show it.

    Anyone know if its getting a more widespread release over here?

    ie Somewhere outside of Dublin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Sure the cinema would be burned to the ground if it was outside Dublin and showed Religulous! :D


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