Eircom broadband

Captain Slow IRL

Anyone else have it around the Ballina area?! Last night and tonight have been a total waste of time, it's ****ing useless.

Bob the Builder

Down in Westport, and yes, I completely agree.

Dunno about last night, but I have them problems all the time. stupid idiots they are.

Captain Slow IRL

Is there any good alternative to eircom in Mayo? They have been getting progressively worse over the summer - xbox live is a nightmare with them now.

Bob the Builder

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Is there any good alternative to eircom in Mayo? They have been getting progressively worse over the summer - xbox live is a nightmare with them now.

Noticed that myself.

You have a few options, but they're limited:
Eircom (which you're using now)
Mobile Broadband (Vodafone, o2 (My job), Three)
Westnet (oscarBravo's baby)

PogMoThoin

nevf wrote: »

Noticed that myself.

You have a few options, but they're limited:
Eircom (which you're using now)
Mobile Broadband (Vodafone, o2 (My job), Three)
Westnet (oscarBravo's baby)

:rolleyes: You mean Mobile Internet that sometimes gives broadband speeds and has very high latency

Perlico, BT, Vodafone and Digiweb all re-sell the Eircom packages, so Your troubles will stay. The latency on Eircom broadband is crazy at the moment, I've the upto 7.6Mbit package at home and its shíte. My ping to boards.ie is a cronic 45-90ms when it used be 15ms before their upgrades. I'm finding it impossible to game on it since, 120ms pings to UK servers.

Bob the Builder

They all depend on your area

If you're sitting under a 3g, fully updated mast, then you can expect brilliant mobile broadband. If you're in a Touch and Go area, then you can expect a certain level of bad quality.

o2, for example, will work even if it can't get signal on a 3g mast, but it will be terribly slow. On 3', if you can't get signal on a 3g mast, then you can't get signal at all. Latency on o2 is pretty good in comparison with eircom and the other few out there. On 3', it tends to be a little 'iffy.

We're obviously not making enough money for eircom and so they dont give a fúck, so i say fúck them. And the day I can get reasonable broadband anywhere else, I'll be on that boat.

Captain Slow IRL

nevf wrote: »

They all depend on your area

If you're sitting under a 3g, fully updated mast, then you can expect brilliant mobile broadband.

But then you have the brain tumor to worry about:(

It's ****ing atrocious tonight - the only consolation is pissing off the yanks

"Does anyone else notice this lag!?"

irishgeo

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Is there any good alternative to eircom in Mayo? They have been getting progressively worse over the summer - xbox live is a nightmare with them now.

www.westnet.ie.

it doesnt cover everywhere but its seems good.

check out the coverage map on their site. i think you can get a free survey to see if you can get it. i know its wireless but it seems fast.

512k up and down for €35 quid a month.no caps mentioned.

it the top rated on speedtest.net for mayo as well.

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=3&country=49&region=1492

and no i dont work for them

Captain Slow IRL

I don't think you can play xbox live over wireless connections?!? Seems to be better coverage out in the sticks than in the town!

PogMoThoin

Wrong, unless Your calling Mobile internet "wireless" which its not. Fixed wireless as a technology has much less latency than Dsl. I've friends with very low pings with Westnet, sub 20ms to boards.ie (if that makes any sense to You), perfect for gaming.

http://westnet.ie/

Bob the Builder

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Wrong, unless Your calling Mobile internet "wireless" which its not. Fixed wireless as a technology has much less latency than Dsl. I've friends with very low pings with Westnet, sub 20ms to boards.ie (if that makes any sense to You), perfect for gaming.

http://westnet.ie/

depends on the location and a whole load of other factors though. If you are in an ideal area, then westnet is best, but if you're not in an 'ideal' area, then the chances are that mobile broadband is better. It very much so depends on a lot of factors, including weather.

oscarBravo

nevf wrote: »

...the chances are that mobile broadband is better. It very much so depends on a lot of factors, including weather.

o O?

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest here, but how often do you see 20ms pings on mobile connections?

Bob the Builder

oscarBravo wrote: »

o O?

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest here, but how often do you see 20ms pings on mobile connections?

my house is within view of a 3g mast, and i got a 26ms ping on my brothers vodafone e220 mobile broadband, i got a 31ms ping on an e220 o2 modem. it was longer at work, in the middle of town, somewhere around 40ms ping to boards using irishiptest(can't remember now). I'm not denying latency differences at all

Of course, if you have signal westnet wins the game hands down, but i have never really tested westnet (apart from once or twice). My house is out of reach of westnet, but is within the o2 catchment area. On the other hand, on the other side of the hill, one of my best friends is receiving signal over the hill from westnet, but is outside o2's catchment area.

i'm not entering a pissing contest either, but every single type of broadband (that I know about at least) has it's limit's, it's weaknesses, but also it's advantages. O2, (and i'm open to correction on this) has more flexible signal, and can host higher numbers of connections per mast, but Westnet's internet would be most capable of holding a high quality VoIP conversation because of less packet loss than o2, higher latency, and a permanent connection

~Nev

PogMoThoin

nevf wrote: »

......O2, (and i'm open to correction on this) has more flexible signal

:rolleyes: In other words, it works sometimes, but not others

Shot ur self in the foot there m8

Bob the Builder

PogMoThoin wrote: »

:rolleyes: In other words, it works sometimes, but not others

Shot ur self in the foot there m8

I meant 'flexible' as in, the range of coverage rather than quality
Btw, i've nothing against westnet at all - i think they're quite good ftr.

also, interesting to note: http://www.speedtest.net/global.php?continent=3&country=49&region=1492&city=31977 .
westnet ranks pretty good.

yop

Have Westnet myself now for 18 months and really can't complain, had to odd hitch as in it disappears for maybe 5 minutes or so, but I think if its done that 3 times in the last year thats the most.
I was on my brother in laws laptop last nite, Eircon, and he has the same connection I have but Westnet would have been much faster, but he did say that Eircom can be up and down speed wise.

So if you can get Westnet then I definately would. Any sign of a 2MB residental speed yet OscarBravo out of interest?
Keep up the good work btw.

Captain Slow IRL

I was gonna **** the router out the window friday - got home around half 5, tried to connect, wouldn't load any page - all green lights on the router. Tried the xbox, that worked fine - tried another laptop to check mine wasn't packing in, same problem. Getting a little pissed off at this stage, rang tech support (was gonna give them a ragging), number rang out twice on me but I was advised to log onto eircom.net to resolve any issues I have.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Broadband was back on without fail at 6pm

bandit197

yop wrote: »

Any sign of a 2MB residental speed yet OscarBravo out of interest?
Keep up the good work btw.

+1
Im with Westnet for two years now, very happy with the service. 2MB residental would be great.

oscarBravo

Watch this space. Working on something at the moment - not going to promise 2Mb residential, but...

yop

Go on OB, let it slip there No one is listening lol

oscarBravo

The walls have ears.

<_<

>_>

bandit197

oscarBravo wrote: »

Watch this space. Working on something at the moment - not going to promise 2Mb residential, but...

/waits in anticipation...

oscarBravo

While you're waiting: we won't be passing on the VAT increase to residential customers - we're adjusting the ex-VAT price so that the inc-VAT price stays the same.

I know it's only a few cent a month, but like thon big retail chain keeps telling us: every little helps.

bandit197

The gesture is appreciated.
Thank you.

Bob the Builder

oscarBravo wrote: »

While you're waiting: we won't be passing on the VAT increase to residential customers - we're adjusting the ex-VAT price so that the inc-VAT price stays the same.

I know it's only a few cent a month, but like thon big retail chain keeps telling us: every little helps.

That VAT increase is a pain in the ****. Have to change prices, cash registers, etc. just to add 0.5% onto the price of something that you're paying for yourself. I feel your pain oB, I suppose it's more of an inconvenience rather than an ordeal though. Kudos for taking the expense yourselves.

foxfordbuild

I have a 4mb dsl with Eircom in Foxford, have not had any complaints with speed, great for work (vpn) and gaming. Of course I am paying through the nose - €107.69 per month but need it for work, they give me € 45pm towards it so thats something. Still waiting on this upgrade to 10mb but don't see that happening anytime soon.

Bob the Builder

foxfordbuild wrote: »

I have a 4mb dsl with Eircom in Foxford, have not had any complaints with speed, great for work (vpn) and gaming. Of course I am paying through the nose - €107.69 per month but need it for work, they give me € 45pm towards it so thats something. Still waiting on this upgrade to 10mb but don't see that happening anytime soon.

The fact that you're in Mayo, using eircom broadband with something faster than 2mb broadband is one thing to be delighted about at least!

PogMoThoin

foxfordbuild wrote: »

I have a 4mb dsl with Eircom in Foxford, have not had any complaints with speed, great for work (vpn) and gaming. Of course I am paying through the nose - €107.69 per month but need it for work, they give me € 45pm towards it so thats something. Still waiting on this upgrade to 10mb but don't see that happening anytime soon.

The fact that You stated You have the 4Mbit package from Eircom means that You are on a business package which uses ADSL2+ with low interleaving which doesn't suffer from the high latency problems that residential does. This is why they can offer upto 10Mbit on business packages. Business contention ratio is only 12:1 IIRC.
The residential packages use ADSL and interleaving is set to very high causing serious problems. Move to residential and see if your still happy, I have it here and its terrible. Contention on upto 7.6Mbit residential is 24:1.



My point is that you cannot compare a business package to a residential one

foxfordbuild

I would not be happy with the residential package.

I got the business package because I know how bad the residential packages are. It was not my intention to compare it to residential packages.

I work for a company in Dublin and as I depend on it for vpn I cannot chance using anything less. It is not adsl2 though they have not upgraded the exchange yet for that.

I do consider myself lucky to have gotten the service I have considering how bad Eircom are, even in Dublin on Merrion Square where my work is we have had numerous problems with both the speed and quality of the connection.

PogMoThoin

foxfordbuild wrote: »

It is not adsl2 though they have not upgraded the exchange yet for that.

How long is Your exchange enabled? All exchanges enabled in the last 12 months got ADSL2+ gear AFAIK

oscarBravo

PogMoThoin wrote: »

How long is Your exchange enabled? All exchanges enabled in the last 12 months got ADSL2+ gear AFAIK

Couple of years now. Shortly before WestNet rolled out in Foxford.

Coincidentally.

de5p0i1er

I'm with BT Ireland and I find them pretty good in Castlebar give them a look.

banquo

Foxfordbuild: My gf lives in foxford and is fed up with her current provider. Eircom cool, ya?

foxfordbuild

Yea cool for me anyway, but I know a lot has to do with the quality of the lines here, I would suggest starting on their 2mb package and see if thats ok, then upgrade if possible.

SGTFUZZ

Im in monaghan and i dont think you can play xbox live with eircom broadband. do u know if I can? please reply and yeah eircom is ****

Dunne.Drift

SGTFUZZ wrote: »

Im in monaghan and i dont think you can play xbox live with eircom broadband. do u know if I can? please reply and yeah eircom is ****

if your using wireless you need to put your firewall on the low setting...

visit : 192.168.1.254
Go into : Firewall
Select: Low
Click : Save Changes

Then just turn your xbox on, set up your connection and away you go :pac:

jenno86

Can you download torrents with Westnet? Or even use P2P programs like Limewire etc. Someone told me you couldn't, which is really **** IMO.

PogMoThoin

jenno86 wrote: »

Can you download torrents with Westnet? Or even use P2P programs like Limewire etc. Someone told me you couldn't, which is really **** IMO.

No, from the website, here

Peer to peer file sharing is a common reason of excessive bandwidth usage, in order to combat this Westnet will block any traffic that it feels facilitate this form of protocol.

irishgeo

jenno86 wrote: »

Can you download torrents with Westnet? Or even use P2P programs like Limewire etc. Someone told me you couldn't, which is really **** IMO.

rapidshare?

oscarBravo

irishgeo wrote: »

rapidshare?

We've only had a problem with Rapidshare once, with a single user who was completely taking the piss, downloading the equivalent of most DSL users' monthly cap in a few days, and doing so continuously over several weeks.

As for torrents etc: even with the limitations we have in place, we get a constant stream of copyright infringement notices from rights owners. Anyone who has ever needed to download something legitimate by torrent, we've been able to locate a direct download link for them. And I'm not going to apologise for inconveniencing people who want to illegally download copyrighted material in order to provide a better quality of service to the rest of our customers.

Westnet: Paul

yop wrote: »

So if you can get Westnet then I definately would. Any sign of a 2MB residental speed yet OscarBravo out of interest?

The website is still in the process of being updated, but I can let you know that we've made some changes in our product lineup:

• The entry-level Residential product isn't bursty anymore, and offers 1Mb download and 512kb upload - the price remains the same.
• The newly-introduced Residential Plus product offers 2Mb download and 1Mb upload, for just €10 extra per month.
• Customers on the old SO/HO product will be moved to Business, with 3Mb download and 1Mb upload.
• Customers on the old Business product will be moved to the new Business Plus, with 3Mb download and 3Mb upload.

Prices have been substantially reduced on the Business products. We'll keep the Residential prices under review, but we don't expect to reduce them in the immediate future.

nayorleck114

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Anyone else have it around the Ballina area?! Last night and tonight have been a total waste of time, it's ****ing useless.

YES!!!, Eircom broadband user here in Ballina with same issue!

yop

Westnet (Paul) wrote: »

The website is still in the process of being updated, but I can let you know that we've made some changes in our product lineup:

• The entry-level Residential product isn't bursty anymore, and offers 1Mb download and 512kb upload - the price remains the same.
• The newly-introduced Residential Plus product offers 2Mb download and 1Mb upload, for just €10 extra per month.
• Customers on the old SO/HO product will be moved to Business, with 3Mb download and 1Mb upload.
• Customers on the old Business product will be moved to the new Business Plus, with 3Mb download and 3Mb upload.

Prices have been substantially reduced on the Business products. We'll keep the Residential prices under review, but we don't expect to reduce them in the immediate future.

Thats great Paul, fair play to ye.

I can't complain with our Westnet connection in fairness, had a mate over who has a 4mb Eircom connection and he said ours was a lot faster. Doesnt suprise me really.

Keep up the good work

Captain Slow IRL

nayorleck114 wrote: »

YES!!!, Eircom broadband user here in Ballina with same issue!

It's been at it again since sunday - had it with them. I'm currently moving house and am hoping to have westnet in my new address.

Galen

I'm with Westnet for two and half years, very happy with the service. They really go the extra mile to help you with your internet woes and I have had a few thanks to my trees. I'm surrounded on all sides so clear point of view was almost impossible, resulting in occasional dropouts. They recently moved me from wifi to wimax and I couldn't be happier.

I've just asked OB to move me to 2MB residental plus.

K4t

banquo wrote: »

Foxfordbuild: My gf lives in foxford and is fed up with her current provider. Eircom cool, ya?

I'm near there.

Awful poor connection at the moment (last week or so) on Eircom's side. Very annoying considering we're paying for 'high speed connection broadband' :rolleyes:

biko

I had some issues with Eircom but since changing to OpenDNS on the router it fixed it.

donmeister

Eircom's DNS Server's are fooked since the beginning of last week, which means on your router all your lights are green but browsing is ridiculously slow!

Anyone else having a problem with Eircom just follow this guide:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61007899&postcount=64

Et voila!

whadabouchasir

donmeister wrote: »

Eircom's DNS Server's are fooked since the beginning of last week, which means on your router all your lights are green but browsing is ridiculously slow!

Have they fixed this problem because I don't seem to have this problem now?In fairness I've never had any major problems with eircom except that it took about a month for the router to arrive in the first place and that it's a couple mb's slower than it says.

nayorleck114

I thought me speed was ok, But I changed the settings as per
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...9&postcount=64 and its a lot lot faster.

detoxkid

Westnet (Paul) wrote: »

The website is still in the process of being updated, but I can let you know that we've made some changes in our product lineup:

• The entry-level Residential product isn't bursty anymore, and offers 1Mb download and 512kb upload - the price remains the same.
• The newly-introduced Residential Plus product offers 2Mb download and 1Mb upload, for just €10 extra per month.
• Customers on the old SO/HO product will be moved to Business, with 3Mb download and 1Mb upload.
• Customers on the old Business product will be moved to the new Business Plus, with 3Mb download and 3Mb upload.

Prices have been substantially reduced on the Business products. We'll keep the Residential prices under review, but we don't expect to reduce them in the immediate future.

HI, am interested in getting wireless connection in Castlebar, wondering what is the cap limit on downloads? Thanks