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Lose Weight Quickly

  • 25-09-2008 12:02pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭


    okay so i know it is not ideal but need to have a medical end of october and at the moment my bmi is 33 and i weigh 14st i need to get my bmi down to 27 or prefereably lower.

    now am doing grand with food however exercise wise am doing something everyday but would doing cardio twice a day help?

    dont need anyone berating me i know it is not ideal but am going for my dream job and i will not pass the medical at my current weight. i have been going to the gym and doing an hour of cardio some days and weights on other days but to be honest i havent really been pushing myself am just wondering if was to do an hour of cardio in morning and another hour in the evening will it help, this is only for the short time have been doing weights but nothing to heavy.

    my plan is (considering)

    morning - 60mins cardio with 12 lengths of 20m pool (all i can manage at moment)

    evening - 60mins cardio

    two evenings will do a spinning class and on saturday do session of weights only.

    please dont berate me i know it is not ideal and should be taking it easy but this is necessary and too important to lose over my weight.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭dv6


    Cut out all carbs bar from green veg as much as possible for a few weeks, drop all sugar, fizzy drinks etc, train often and drink plenty of water and you will see a dramatic drop at first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    I was just about to say that. A very low carb diet is your best bet for losing weight as quickly as possible. Some of what you lose will be water, but it still counts on the scales.

    Base your meals on eggs, fish, meat and lots and lots of green veg. No sugar, bread, pasta, rice or sweets of any sort. No booze either. Cut out things with artifical sweeteners too, they have a bad effect on some people and you don't have time to experiement and see if you are one of them.

    Cardio is good for burning bodyfat, but your best bet is just to stay as active as possible. Turn off the tv, get out walking. If you have a bike, dust it off and use it. You'll be amazed at how fast you can burn calories cycling round town. Go to bed early. Lack of sleep is associated with elevated insulin levels and weight gain. Also, you can't snack from your bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Your doing grand on your food but you have a bmi over 30???

    That does not add up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    I'm with Transform on this one.
    You should post up what you eat on a regular day.
    sfhawke7w wrote: »
    please dont berate me i know it is not ideal and should be taking it easy but this is necessary and too important to lose over my weight.
    I don't think anyone really berates on this forum, advice can be a little harsh at times :D but sometimes thats whats needed to shake someone out of their bad ways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭DefenseSoapEire


    I think its important to make sure your diet is ok, you may think it is but a professional opinion may help a lot. Your focus should be on quality over quantity in both your diet and your excercise.

    Also a sweat suit during your cardio may be a good idea.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial



    Also a sweat suit during your cardio may be a good idea.

    Why's that then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Transform wrote: »
    Your doing grand on your food but you have a bmi over 30???

    That does not add up

    I was just thinking that. If you want to lose weight, start with what goes into your mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    True. It really is all about diet. I spent years cycling 200 miles a week, swimming up to three miles a day, lifting heavy weights in the gym, and I still weighed 17 stone. And I'm a girl. It wasn't until I got my diet together that I lost weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    EileenG wrote: »
    True. It really is all about diet. I spent years cycling 200 miles a week, swimming up to three miles a day, lifting heavy weights in the gym, and I still weighed 17 stone. And I'm a girl. It wasn't until I got my diet together that I lost weight.

    Jimminy Christmas!!! What was your diet like?!?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭aye


    Also a sweat suit during your cardio may be a good idea.

    if you want to become de-hydrated it might be.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭DefenseSoapEire


    celestial wrote: »
    Why's that then


    build up a sweat faster, maximise your weight loss
    seems like a good idea if you are in a hurry to drop a lot of weight
    http://www.sweatsuits.co.uk/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭DefenseSoapEire


    aye wrote: »
    if you want to become de-hydrated it might be.


    I agree its not a great option, but desperate times call for desperate measures


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭aye


    build up a sweat faster, maximise your weight loss
    seems like a good idea if you are in a hurry to drop a lot of weight
    http://www.sweatsuits.co.uk/

    sweat suits simply enable someone to sweat more, thereby losing more water during their workout and dehyrating the person.
    the weight loss seen after the workout is water loss.
    once the person takes in water and food after the workout any minimal loss in weight will be regained.


    http://www.military.com/military-fitness/weight-loss/weight-loss-myths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    celestial wrote: »
    Jimminy Christmas!!! What was your diet like?!?!

    Classic food pyramid with a vegetarian twist. Lots of carbs, some protein, some fat. Very little junk. Organic peanut butter and banana sandwiches on thick multigrain bread were my staple after cycling. Probably portions were too big, but Hell, I was extremely active. Being vegetarian, most of my meals included a lot of pasta.

    Since then, I've started eating meat again, ditched the sugar, bread and pasta, and lost five stone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭DefenseSoapEire


    aye wrote: »
    sweat suit simply enable someone to sweat more, thereby losing more water during their workout and dehyrating the person.
    the weight loss seen after the workout is water loss.
    once the person take in water after the workout any minimal lose in weight will be regained.


    he didn't say it had to be all fat loss, if he wants his weight to be lower on the day then this is an option. again, i never stated it was the healtiest option, but if he needs to lose the weight for a specific date then it is an option none the less.
    In most combat sports this is a common practice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    build up a sweat faster, maximise your weight loss
    seems like a good idea if you are in a hurry to drop a lot of weight
    http://www.sweatsuits.co.uk/

    Sweat loss is replaced as soon as you drink water. I'd do the cardio in whatever feels comfortable, and if you are still a few pounds over your goal, fast for day before your weigh-in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Well I've seen some bad advice put up but buy a sweat suit has to take the cake.

    Losing water will do nothing for your BMI. It will do a lot for your general health though, dizziness, lack of concentration, bad breath, and lots of other stuff like that. OP do NOT buy a sweat suit.

    Work on your diet, eat whole food and as little processed food as possible. Plenty of fresh meat, veg and fruit. Have regular, small meals, about 5 per day and try to stay away from sugar. Work hard in the gym, weights and cardio. Read the stickies, work hard, have fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    EileenG wrote: »
    Classic food pyramid with a vegetarian twist. Lots of carbs, some protein, some fat. Very little junk. Organic peanut butter and banana sandwiches on thick multigrain bread were my staple after cycling. Probably portions were too big, but Hell, I was extremely active. Being vegetarian, most of my meals included a lot of pasta.

    Since then, I've started eating meat again, ditched the sugar, bread and pasta, and lost five stone.

    ive also lost close to that weight by doign the exact opposite - following the classic food pyramid, if you were 5 stone overweight i am certain that you were going way OTT with portions and / or not not being as active as you though!! - I just want to present an alternative view point, in my experience carbs are not bad, i am 184cm, 78KG, 11% B/F BUT i put in the work cardio wise, if i did not do this then maybe i would have to cut the carbs a bit, if i needed to i would drop portion sizes rather than cut them out ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    I really was cycling 200 miles a week (training for the maracycle which I did every year), same with the swimming and lifting etc. My portions were definitely bigger than the other people in the office where I worked, but not compared with other cyclists. I had a size 10 sister who ate more than I did. That really used to piss me off!!!

    In retrospect, it seems obvious that I had insulin issues, and if I had continued to eat like that, I'd have ended up with diabetes. As soon as I started breastfeeding, I went from being vegetarian to wanting meat four times a day, starting with black pudding for breakfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    EileenG wrote: »
    I really was cycling 200 miles a week (training for the maracycle which I did every year), same with the swimming and lifting etc. My portions were definitely bigger than the other people in the office where I worked, but not compared with other cyclists. I had a size 10 sister who ate more than I did. That really used to piss me off!!!

    In retrospect, it seems obvious that I had insulin issues, and if I had continued to eat like that, I'd have ended up with diabetes. As soon as I started breastfeeding, I went from being vegetarian to wanting meat four times a day, starting with black pudding for breakfast.

    if all of that is true it just shows that everyone isnt necessarily built the same .. In fairness if you were that physically active and still 5 stone overweight there wa something radically wrong .. do you mind me asking what weight you were? The reason i ask is that i cant imagine cycling 200 miles per week while being that overweight :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    I was 17 stone for most of my adult life. Didn't look that heavy, no wobbly fat, but my head looked a lot smaller than the rest of me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    EileenG wrote: »
    I was 17 stone for most of my adult life. Didn't look that heavy, no wobbly fat, but my head looked a lot smaller than the rest of me!

    i was 17.5st and even as a 6ft guy i can tell ya it bloody showed!!! eventhough its only when the excess is gone that you realise ... you just get used to it i guess


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    corkcomp wrote: »
    if all of that is true it just shows that everyone isnt necessarily built the same .. In fairness if you were that physically active and still 5 stone overweight there wa something radically wrong .. do you mind me asking what weight you were? The reason i ask is that i cant imagine cycling 200 miles per week while being that overweight :confused:

    Eh yeah +1! I mean Eileen, I thought you were gonna say you used to eat massive amounts of junk food to get to 17 stone! Simple physics really - with 200 miles a week cycling you'd need to eat massive amounts of food to just keep at a healthy weight, never mind 17 stone!! A 17 stone woman would burn approx 1900 calories cycling at 14-16 mph for 100 minutes. If it took you let's say 5 minutes to cycle a mile it would take you 1000 minutes to cycle 200 miles - which is what you were doing! So you'd have been burning something like 20,000 calories in a week, not including all your other exercise!

    Not doubting you though. Either your portion sizes were truly massive or more likely there was some sort of insulin related issue there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Those calculations for calories burned are not set in stone. I reckon if you have a good technique, then you can go further on fewer cals, and of course, you tend to eat the same on wet weeks as on dry ones. I've often put my stats into on-line calculators and been told I should be eating about 3000 cals a day with my present lifestyle. But I know my real maintenance calories are around 1800. I've got to drop those to lose weight.

    I'm 5'10" and have big boobs, so they disguised a lot of weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    EileenG wrote: »
    Those calculations for calories burned are not set in stone. I reckon if you have a good technique, then you can go further on fewer cals, and of course, you tend to eat the same on wet weeks as on dry ones. I've often put my stats into on-line calculators and been told I should be eating about 3000 cals a day with my present lifestyle. But I know my real maintenance calories are around 1800. I've got to drop those to lose weight.

    I'm 5'10" and have big boobs, so they disguised a lot of weight.

    Yup I was meant to put that disclaimer in my post re the online calculator - it was just to illustrate a point:) Just seems crazy that you could be doing that volume of exercise with not such a bad diet at all and be that weight.

    You're doin good now anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭sfhawke7w


    i am 5ft 4in and my weight is 14st 4lbs.

    my typical diet is

    bowl of porridge made with water, fruit

    at 11am - fruit or a yogurt

    lunchtime - would normally make a large bowl of veg soup with loads of veg and chillis, fruit after

    afternoon- some nuts, pumpkin seeds maybe, or piece of fruit, or 2 ryvita with peanut butter and an apple

    dinner - veg and chicken stir fry with noodles

    now i am aware i pick in the evenings for comfort and have been stressing a lot at work over the last couple of months so reckon that has held me up.

    i can relax though will not be called for medical till next year and have also handed my notice in at work, going to get bloods tested after i finish as it seems that some of my aunts have underactive thyroids.

    am also going to cut back the exercise too and enjoy my time off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    sfhawke7w wrote: »
    i am 5ft 4in and my weight is 14st 4lbs.

    my typical diet is

    bowl of porridge made with water, fruit

    at 11am - fruit or a yogurt

    lunchtime - would normally make a large bowl of veg soup with loads of veg and chillis, fruit after

    afternoon- some nuts, pumpkin seeds maybe, or piece of fruit, or 2 ryvita with peanut butter and an apple

    dinner - veg and chicken stir fry with noodles

    now i am aware i pick in the evenings for comfort and have been stressing a lot at work over the last couple of months so reckon that has held me up.

    i can relax though will not be called for medical till next year and have also handed my notice in at work, going to get bloods tested after i finish as it seems that some of my aunts have underactive thyroids.

    am also going to cut back the exercise too and enjoy my time off.

    thats quite heavy for your height TBH .. my advice would be to drop the noodles, watch portion sizes, eat your fruit (but probably not more than three pieces per day), dont pick in the evenings! and dont cut back on the exercise!


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