Working in the USA (not the usual thread)

helimachoptor

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0919/usvisa.html

New US visa deal for Ireland

Friday, 19 September 2008 07:37
Thousands of Irish people will have the opportunity to work in the US for up to a year under a new visa deal.
20,000 one-year working visas to the US are to be made available under a new deal expected to be agreed today.
Application for the visa, called the J-Visa, is open to anyone with a secondary school education, or a trade and is anticipated to come on stream in the New Year.

One things for sure after having a couple of chances to work in the states fall apart at the last minute, I'll be applying for this.

Heisenberg.

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helimachoptor

And you'd wonder how many people will stay illegal!

experiMental

You can still apply for green card, if you have not been born in Ireland, and also as long as you have skills which are in demand.

The US government publishes a list of eligible countries every year, so keep an eye out for that.

Although there's no guarantee of winning the "green card lottery", it's still worth trying.

godtabh

I'd love to something like that. Might do it next year after I do my masters. I had a job lined up in the states after I finished college but couldnt get a visa sorted so had to take a job here

experiMental

Sorry, one more crucial thing:

I haven't seen "Republic of Ireland" or "Ireland" mentioned in the eligible skills list on this document here: http://exchanges.state.gov/education/jexchanges/participation/waivers.htm. It's either not updated yet or the RTE news article is way ahead of time :S

helimachoptor

experiMental wrote: »

Sorry, one more crucial thing:

I haven't seen "Republic of Ireland" or "Ireland" mentioned in the eligible skills list on this document here: http://exchanges.state.gov/education/jexchanges/participation/waivers.htm. It's either not updated yet or the RTE news article is way ahead of time :S

Will probably update over the next couple of weeks

AARRRGH

Very interesting. I could handle working there for a year.

Does anyone reckon it will work both ways, i.e. my friends from the US will be able to work here for a year?

helimachoptor

AARRRGH wrote: »

Does anyone reckon it will work both ways, i.e. my friends from the US will be able to work here for a year?

says it works both ways..
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhqlidcwidid/

thedirtydevil

Excellent news. Will also, like the Australia working visa, allow people to get well in with a company and pursue a visa sponsership etc wit a view to getting permanency.

Will be applying for sure. Year in Oz, Canada and now USA will give people possibility of working for few years in these places.

Tom Dunne

What I would give for one of these.....

Then again, the thought of having to come back after a year would put a huge dampener on it. It did the last time I lived in the US.

helimachoptor

Tom Dunne wrote: »

What I would give for one of these.....

Then again, the thought of having to come back after a year would put a huge dampener on it. It did the last time I lived in the US.

I'd say there will be some loophole that will allow you to apply for a greencard/extended visa if your sponsored (i hope:D)

thedirtydevil

id say at least double if not treble that number. Everyone is practically eligible. Anyone who did a leaving cert or has a trade must be nearly 90% of people say under 35.

Bass Cadet

Anyone know when you can start applying for this or has that even been announced yet?

helimachoptor

Bass Cadet wrote: »

Anyone know when you can start applying for this or has that even been announced yet?

I'd say probably the new year, will also be interesting to see if its done directly with the embassy or via usit.

also on RTE.ie it says there are 20,000 visas (does this mean a once of?)

but on breakingnews it says there are 20,000 visas annually.

I hope this is cleared up soon!

Bass Cadet

helimachoptor wrote: »

I'd say probably the new year, will also be interesting to see if its done directly with the embassy or via usit.

also on RTE.ie it says there are 20,000 visas (does this mean a once of?)

but on breakingnews it says there are 20,000 visas annually.

I hope this is cleared up soon!

also the age cap...hope it's not 30!

helimachoptor

Bass Cadet wrote: »

also the age cap...hope it's not 30!

I think the canda program is 35 so I would hazard a guess it being similar!
I'm only 26:D

Bass Cadet

helimachoptor wrote: »

I think the canda program is 35 so I would hazard a guess it being similar!
I'm only 26:D

I'm 30...I presume if it is a cap of 30years (like Australia)...it includes '30'...heres hoping!

AARRRGH

I'm also 30. Goddamnit.

magicwand

would a degree in I.T qualify as a trade?

helimachoptor

magicwand wrote: »

would a degree in I.T qualify as a trade?

Magicwand, you only need your leaving cert!

AARRRGH

magicwand wrote: »

would a degree in I.T qualify as a trade?

Not if your grade is less than a 2.1.







Just kidding!

Tom Dunne

AARRRGH wrote: »

I'm also 30. Goddamnit.

No hope for me, so.

Larianne

I'm so excited by this! YAY!!

ceegee

helimachoptor wrote: »

I'd say probably the new year, will also be interesting to see if its done directly with the embassy or via usit.

also on RTE.ie it says there are 20,000 visas (does this mean a once of?)

but on breakingnews it says there are 20,000 visas annually.

I hope this is cleared up soon!

Apparently there wont be an annual limit!:)

from rte.ie:
The US Ambassador to Ireland Thomas C Foley has told RTÉ News that the new visa programme will not be limited to 20,000 people per year.
Mr Foley said 20,000 was the number they thought might take up the visas but that there is no upper limit.
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It is hoped that the J-visa programme will be agreed next week.
Under the programme school leavers, young trades persons, and people intending to return to education may apply for a visa to work in the US for one year.

magicwand

This is a great thing for us,cant wait until nxt wk when things should be finalised.

MisterAnarchy

experiMental wrote: »

Although there's no guarantee of winning the "green card lottery", it's still worth trying.

Without a US relation there is about as much chance as going to the moon.

MisterAnarchy

Tom Dunne wrote: »

What I would give for one of these.....

Then again, the thought of having to come back after a year would put a huge dampener on it. It did the last time I lived in the US.

My thoughts exactly.Loved it when I was there.

damnyanks

wehats the likelyhood of being allowed to apply for another one of these visas if you are granted one? like a unofficial h1b

littlejp

I would doubt it. The Canadian and Australian ones are a one time only deal.

experiMental

Is that some sort of a work experience visa for students/trainees?

Chardee MacDennis

this is great news, now all i need is for Obama to get elected and its hello Silicon Valley! (fingers crossed)

Our man in Havana

I see no mention of an age limit. So happy days.

woodyg

is there any official rules out yet for this?

thedirtydevil

Unfortunately i think its just applicable to students. Its just an extension of the J1 which is for 3 months. Only studnets and individuals who graduated within 12 months of travelling are eligible

stevoman

the line of it seems to be the following.

if you have graduated in the last 12 months you can apply for a visa permit for 12 months.

if you have no third level qualifications you can say that you intend to g to third level education after you return from america regardless of what age you are. the american ambasseder has said it "that we wont go checking on you after you return to see if you have gone into third level education", which means tell a white lie and there's your loophole so to speak.

Our man in Havana

No where has it been indicated this only applies to students.

woodyg

stevoman wrote: »

the line of it seems to be the following.

if you have graduated in the last 12 months you can apply for a visa permit for 12 months.

if you have no third level qualifications you can say that you intend to g to third level education after you return from america regardless of what age you are. the american ambasseder has said it "that we wont go checking on you after you return to see if you have gone into third level education", which means tell a white lie and there's your loophole so to speak.

this would suck if its only for students! all though could say your going back to do a masters.

Our man in Havana

woodyg wrote: »

this would suck if its only for students! all though could say your going back to do a masters.

Too right. I would say I am going back to further my education.

thedirtydevil

Bond-007 wrote: »

No where has it been indicated this only applies to students.

All the news bulletins said its only applicable for students.

helimachoptor

thedirtydevil wrote: »

All the news bulletins said its only applicable for students.

It says its open to school leavers with a LC, so I'm reading it as if you have done your LC then you can apply.

MisterAnarchy

helimachoptor wrote: »

It says its open to school leavers with a LC, so I'm reading it as if you have done your LC then you can apply.

That must be most of the population.
Will have to wait and see the conditions.

helimachoptor

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

That must be most of the population.
Will have to wait and see the conditions.

Yeah I know, ah I can say i'm coming back to do a masters if need be.

Bonnie's Babe

I read about this on a few different websites and it didn't state anywhere that it was only applicable to students - it stated school leavers, skilled workers and those intending to return to education!

I reckon if you're saying you're going to do your masters, they may ask for proof!!

Chardee MacDennis

Bonnie's Babe wrote: »

I read about this on a few different websites and it didn't state anywhere that it was only applicable to students - it stated school leavers, skilled workers and those intending to return to education!

I reckon if you're saying you're going to do your masters, they may ask for proof!!

all that takes is to apply on PAC for an masters and print the application out, the college will then stamp the application for you and this works as proof, did it for a J1 in 2006!

Our man in Havana

BastardPrince wrote: »

all that takes is to apply on PAC for an masters and print the application out, the college will then stamp the application for you and this works as proof, did it for a J1 in 2006!

Or fire off a CAO application for next year.

spideog7

experiMental wrote: »

You can still apply for green card, if you have not been born in Ireland, and also as long as you have skills which are in demand.

You can apply for the green card lottery even if you have been born in Ireland.

EDIT:
As for the new visa it looks like the most up-to-date information is on the Dept. of Foriegn affairs website http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=73713, looks like they will be accepting applications from American citizens wishing to travel here from the first of November this year, little over a month's time.

AARRRGH

spideog7 wrote: »

You can apply for the green card lottery even if you have been born in Ireland.

EDIT:
As for the new visa it looks like the most up-to-date information is on the Dept. of Foriegn affairs website http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=73713, looks like they will be accepting applications from American citizens wishing to travel here from the first of November this year, little over a month's time.

Looks like they've removed the information?

crimsondee

Does anyone know where the rules and most up to date information is for this visa

Heisenberg.

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MisterAnarchy

From Press release

In order to qualify for the programme participants should be either in post-secondary education or have recently graduated;

Bummer