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  • 15-09-2008 10:47pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭


    In a Dublin meet, doggie walk?.

    Sorry for the country member's, and your more than welcome. I was only thinking of Dublin as (since I'm the orginator of the thread) I work a roster/shift in the army, have a Judo competition coming up and so my time is pretty limited at the moment.

    I'm thinking of Portmarnock beach, Dollymount beach, St. Annes park or The Phoenix Park but of course its open to suggestions.

    All breeds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭Beth


    Meanie :(
    I wanted to meet your terribly dangerous dogs :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Beth wrote: »
    Meanie :(
    I wanted to meet your terribly dangerous dogs :D

    They'd eat you alive so you'd have to sign a disclaimer!.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    Sounds good to me...so long as you dont mind two 1 year old akitas running around getting all the other dogs giddy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭LovelyTom


    I'd be up for it, in st annes or dollymount. I haven't a way of getting to the other places you said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭Beth


    Mairt wrote: »
    They'd eat you alive so you'd have to sign a disclaimer!.
    Whats the disclaimer? that my face is lick-resistant? :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Is it ok if I steal borrow a dog and bring it for a walk?

    I have no doggie :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Sounds good, group of Irish people meeting up from an online discussion and not a pub in sight. Respect.

    Just so you know, St. Annes park allows dogs off the lead before 11 AM... not yours though Mairt :mad:.

    In Dollymount its a no-no. No matter what time.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Is it ok if I steal borrow a dog and bring it for a walk?

    I have no doggie :(

    You could borrow one of mine if I make it, I'm always trying to socialise my GSD who is 11 months, he's a big wuss lol :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    lightening wrote: »
    Sounds good, group of Irish people meeting up from an online discussion and not a pub in sight. Respect.

    Just so you know, St. Annes park allows dogs off the lead before 11 AM... not yours though Mairt :mad:.

    In Dollymount its a no-no. No matter what time.


    Oh, I know all about St.Annes and to be honest I hate walking my dogs there because of the stuck up attitudes of the majority of other dog walkers I've come across there.

    Anyway, I'm fighting (Judo) on the 27th Sept and would appricate a gentle stroll next day, Sunday 28th if anyone is interested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 549 ✭✭✭BlackCat2008


    Is it ok if I steal borrow a dog and bring it for a walk?

    I have no doggie :(

    Your welcome to walk one of mine I could always use an extra hand or someone to play footie with the collie.

    My self and MissyN have already been up to St. Annes but everyone else was on hoildays and we were going to start again when everyone came back tbh it's a lovely park and a great place for the dogs to go of lead, don't take it to heart Mairt, if their stuck up thats their problom.:mad:
    I have to come from the south side but it's worth the peace and quiet when I get the dogs home they sleep really well for the night must be the sea air.

    I'd love to join you's.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I have to come from the south side but it's worth the peace and quiet when I get the dogs home they sleep really well for the night must be the sea air.

    I'd love to join you's.

    Well if your dog enjoyed being that close to the sea they'll love spashing in the water on Portmarnock beach, tbh its IMO the best beach in Dublin and just up the road from St.Annes. Plus after Sept 1st there's no restrictions on walking your dogs off the leads - except mine :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    And mine :mad:

    Its a grand beach to use...except for the odd moany hole giving out about dogs being off leads (not mine of course!)...

    There should really be signposts stating the fact that dogs are allowed off leads...Some people seem to think the beach is for them and them only.

    I hate hearing people who have a problem with dogs, come out with all these facts and figures that are completely OTT. I had a woman once admit to me she had a fear of dogs, and all dogs should be on leads, because she works for the HSE and she deals with 100's of kids every year who suffer horrific injuries from dogs...that conversation didnt end to well im afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Discostuy wrote: »
    Its a grand beach to use...except for the odd moany hole giving out about dogs being off leads (not mine of course!)...

    There should really be signposts stating the fact that dogs are allowed off leads...Some people seem to think the beach is for them and them only.


    There are.

    Signs are posted at the steps (opposite Spar) leading down to the beach giving the months of the year dogs can be walked off the lead, I think its June to Sept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    Oh cool, thanks Mairt. I dont use that entrance much, i hadn't noticed that before.
    I usually go by the village end. Its a lot emptier that end.

    Handy to know :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 549 ✭✭✭BlackCat2008


    Both of mine are happy anywere you can kick a ball.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Well guys, is it a yay or nay for the morning of the 28th?. (mid-day?) at either St.Annes or Portmarnock beach?.

    I'd have my two guys with me, Jericho & Ruby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭LovelyTom


    Mairt wrote: »
    Well guys, is it a yay or nay for the morning of the 28th?. (mid-day?) at either St.Annes or Portmarnock beach?.

    I'd have my two guys with me, Jericho & Ruby.

    It's a yay from me if it's in st anne's. I've no way of getting my guy down to portmarnock!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Mairt wrote: »
    Oh, I know all about St.Annes and to be honest I hate walking my dogs there because of the stuck up attitudes of the majority of other dog walkers I've come across there.

    Anyway, I'm fighting (Judo) on the 27th Sept and would appricate a gentle stroll next day, Sunday 28th if anyone is interested.

    Hey Mairt,

    I walk my two in St Annes every night off the lead and never have any problems. I do get some looks but tbh i couldnt give a monkeys nuts what some people think.

    Sunday 28th is good for me, St Annes or Dollymount or even Fairview park (everybody walks their dogs off the lead there and everyone is friendly).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    Killme00 wrote: »
    Hey Mairt,

    I walk my two in St Annes every night off the lead and never have any problems. I do get some looks but tbh i couldnt give a monkeys nuts what some people think.

    Sorry to highjack the thread but I would like to comment on this.

    How about having some consideration for those of us who have dogs who are scared of off lead dogs and try their best to find places to walk where other dogs are on lead.

    You may not agree with the rule which is fair enough, but if that is the case can you not walk somewhere where you are legally allowed to let your dog off lead.

    Your attitude quite frankly sucks. Me, me, me, thats really what it boils down to isn't it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Vel wrote: »
    Sorry to highjack the thread but I would like to comment on this.

    How about having some consideration for those of us who have dogs who are scared of off lead dogs and try their best to find places to walk where other dogs are on lead.

    You may not agree with the rule which is fair enough, but if that is the case can you not walk somewhere where you are legally allowed to let your dog off lead.

    Your attitude quite frankly sucks. Me, me, me, thats really what it boils down to isn't it.

    Cry me a river. I allow my dogs off the lead so they can run and i generally run with them, or as much as i can. I dont allow them to run up to other dogs who are on the lead with owners pulling away. If they do approach other dogs who are on the lead and their owners look wary, i simply call them back to me, simple as.

    I think you should have some consideration for your own dogs needs, ie interaction with other dogs and excercise beside being pulled around on the lead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    Killme00 wrote: »
    Cry me a river. I allow my dogs off the lead so they can run and i generally run with them, or as much as i can. I dont allow them to run up to other dogs who are on the lead with owners pulling away. If they do approach other dogs who are on the lead and their owners look wary, i simply call them back to me, simple as.

    I think you should have some consideration for your own dogs needs, ie interaction with other dogs and excercise beside being pulled around on the lead.

    Yep, as I thought, selfish.

    You have no idea what kind of exercise my dog gets or how it is treated and how I go about socialising it with other dogs. Did I say at any stage that the only exercise my dog gets is being pulled around on a lead? There are times for dogs to be off lead in that park and I would not dream of going there with my dog then because it wouldn't be fair on him or the other dogs. Unfortunately some dogs have issues and there are people like me trying to help them through it and if selfish people like yourself could look outside your own small world and think about others and how your actions affect them, then the world might be a better place.:rolleyes:

    You know nothing about what my dog has been through with other dogs and the efforts I go through to help him with his problems. I should be allowed to walk my dog on a lead in an area where other dogs are supposed to be on lead without people like you deciding that the rules don't apply to them. If your off lead dogs came up to my dog and caused distress I'd do what was necessary to get your dog away and you'd get a few choice words. And then I'd report you to the dog warden. I've done it before and had results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    Vel wrote: »
    Sorry to highjack the thread but I would like to comment on this.

    How about having some consideration for those of us who have dogs who are scared of off lead dogs and try their best to find places to walk where other dogs are on lead.

    You may not agree with the rule which is fair enough, but if that is the case can you not walk somewhere where you are legally allowed to let your dog off lead.

    Your attitude quite frankly sucks. Me, me, me, thats really what it boils down to isn't it.


    The rule states that dogs are allowed off lead until 11am and for the last daylight hour everyday. So may I suggest that you walk your dogs from 11am up until an hour before darkness, that way your dog (you) won't be so scared.

    I respect that not everyone loves dogs and some people are genuinely scared, so I have no problem adhering to the rule. But in the hours that they are allowed to roam free, I let them. It is utterly ridiculous to say that a dog should never be allowed off the lead. And quite selfish from a dog owning perspective that you would never allow your dog the freedom to have a little wander. Unless your dog has some issue, which is fair enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Vel wrote: »
    Yep, as I thought, selfish.

    You have no idea what kind of exercise my dog gets or how it is treated and how I go about socialising it with other dogs. Did I say at any stage that the only exercise my dog gets is being pulled around on a lead? There are times for dogs to be off lead in that park and I would not dream of going there with my dog then because it wouldn't be fair on him or the other dogs. Unfortunately some dogs have issues and there are people like me trying to help them through it and if selfish people like yourself could look outside your own small world and think about others and how your actions affect them, then the world might be a better place.:rolleyes:

    You know nothing about what my dog has been through with other dogs and the efforts I go through to help him with his problems. I should be allowed to walk my dog on a lead in an area where other dogs are supposed to be on lead without people like you deciding that the rules don't apply to them. If your off lead dogs came up to my dog and caused distress I'd do what was necessary to get your dog away and you'd get a few choice words. And then I'd report you to the dog warden. I've done it before and had results.

    This pretty much sums you up.

    I would suggest that the majority of people taking the time and effort to walk there dogs in a park are not a threat to you or your dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭MissyN


    I'd be delighted to join and the 28th on Portmarnock Beach sounds good to me....it'll be great to see you again Blackcat2008 !!!!! And the doggies of course..:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    Vel wrote: »
    Yep, as I thought, selfish.

    And then I'd report you to the dog warden. I've done it before and had results.

    That's kind of nasty tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    beth-lou wrote: »
    The rule states that dogs are allowed off lead until 11am and for the last daylight hour everyday. So may I suggest that you walk your dogs from 11am up until an hour before darkness, that way your dog (you) won't be so scared.

    I respect that not everyone loves dogs and some people are genuinely scared, so I have no problem adhering to the rule. But in the hours that they are allowed to roam free, I let them. It is utterly ridiculous to say that a dog should never be allowed off the lead. And quite selfish from a dog owning perspective that you would never allow your dog the freedom to have a little wander. Unless your dog has some issue, which is fair enough.

    :rolleyes: see my second post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    beth-lou wrote: »
    That's kind of nasty tbh.

    Why is it nasty? If an off lead dog comes up to my dog and causes distress, it gets reported. If an off lead dog walks by and nothing happens, it doesn't get reported. Is it not more nasty for someone to allow their dog to frighten another dog?

    How is it that I'm the bad guy when its people like Killme00 breaking the rules.

    And you should try to read my posts properly before you make ill-informed presumptions on what I do and don't do with my dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    I did and I'm equally unimpressed.
    If you read kllmoo'd first post properly you would have seen that he said"I walk my two in St Annes every night off the lead and never have any problems". Night time is off lead time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    your second post didnt explain why someone should keep their dog on a lead during the hours that they're allowed off lead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    Killme00 wrote: »
    This pretty much sums you up.

    I would suggest that the majority of people taking the time and effort to walk there dogs in a park are not a threat to you or your dog.

    Yep, I'm the bad guy. I'm the one who shouldn't expect that I can walk my dog in peace in a park where dogs should be on a lead at a certain time. Sorry for trying my best to help my dog and sorry for expecting that other people might have some respect for laws and consideration for others. And your comment about people giving you funny looks shows that it isn't only me who believes you are inconsiderate and I know for a fact that there are many people who feel the way I do about the issue. But what do you care, huh? You're going to do whatever you want. You can try to justify your actions by making me out to be a bad owner or over the top when you know nothing about me or my situation but when it comes down to it you are the one breaking the law of the park and YOU are in the wrong.

    Why is it that you can't go somewhere where your dog is legally allowed off lead or why can't you walk him there during the times when he is allowed off? Actually, do you know what I don't really care. I have nothing more to say to you on the matter but maybe the next time your dogs run up to a dog when they should be on lead you might consider how distressing it could be to the dog and the owner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    Bambi wrote: »
    your second post didnt explain why someone should keep their dog on a lead during the hours that they're allowed off lead.

    When I have said this Bambi?:rolleyes:

    'There are times for dogs to be off lead in that park and I would not dream of going there with my dog then because it wouldn't be fair on him or the other dogs. '


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    I'm not saying you're the bad guy at all. I understand your position. But can you not deal with a bad situation yourself instead of running to the dog warden?

    I often wonder how we survived all those centuries with dogs with out these silly laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    beth-lou wrote: »
    I did and I'm equally unimpressed.
    If you read kllmoo'd first post properly you would have seen that he said"I walk my two in St Annes every night off the lead and never have any problems". Night time is off lead time.

    I'll try to get over the fact that you're unimpressed (its going to be tough I grant you) and hopefully you can over the fact that I have a problem with people who break this rule, be they Killme00 or others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    You claimed the poster was "selfish" because he let his dog off the lead in st annes park, you appear to be making the incorrect assumption that the poster does this outside the designated hours.

    I'll have to break out the finger puppets at this rate..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭LovelyTom


    Vel wrote: »
    When I have said this Bambi?:rolleyes:

    'There are times for dogs to be off lead in that park and I would not dream of going there with my dog then because it wouldn't be fair on him or the other dogs. '

    You do realise that your dog would only be in distress if you are.

    Dog's are animals and should be socialized on and off the lead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    Bambi wrote: »
    You claimed the poster was "selfish" because he let his dog off the lead in st annes park, you appear to be making the incorrect assumption that the poster does this outside the designated hours.

    I'll have to break out the finger puppets at this rate..

    I have a problem with people walking their dogs off lead during the times they should be on lead. I have no problem with dogs being off lead somewhere where they are allowed to be during the appropriate times. In fact my other dog enjoys lots of off lead time in parks in the company of other dogs when legally allowed to be off lead. Its not rocket science.

    You appear to be making the incorrect (?) assumption that he only walks his dogs off lead during the designated times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    Vel wrote: »

    You appear to be making the incorrect (?) assumption that he only walks his dogs off lead during the designated times.

    Well he did say he walks them at night so we are only going on the information as presented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    LovelyTom wrote: »
    You do realise that your dog would only be in distress if you are.

    Dog's are animals and should be socialized on and off the lead.

    Ah Lovely Tom, you'll have to return that degree in animal physchology there. It would appear you missed out on a few important modules!

    When did I say that my dog wasn't socialised both on and off lead? You're just making assumptions. He gets plenty of off lead socialisation in controlled situations but I would also like to be able to lead walk him in areas where other dogs shouldn't be off lead, if that's ok with everyone here who seems to think I'm the bad guy.

    Those of you who have a problem with my views should count themselves lucky they don't have a dog who through no fault of his own has some issues with some other dogs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Vel wrote: »
    I have a problem with people walking their dogs off lead during the times they should be on lead. I have no problem with dogs being off lead somewhere where they are allowed to be during the appropriate times. In fact my other dog enjoys lots of off lead time in parks in the company of other dogs when legally allowed to be off lead. Its not rocket science.

    You appear to be making the incorrect (?) assumption that he only walks his dogs off lead during the designated times.


    If people are making incorrect assumptions about it, its probably prompted by your attitude to the posters in this thread, you appear distinctly unfriendly & self centered.

    You said earlier "Sorry to hijack the thread", then went on to turn what was a good thread geared towards like minded people meeting up, putting names to faces etc into a thread about you, your dog & ratting out people to wardens (in fact seeming to boast about it).

    Well done, screw the walk I couldn't be bothered now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    beth-lou wrote: »
    Well he did say he walks them at night so we are only going on the information as presented.

    BUT he hasn't at any stage told me I am wrong to say that he walks them off lead when he shouldn't so until he does I'll stand by what I have said!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    Vel wrote: »
    BUT he hasn't at any stage told me I am wrong to say that he walks them off lead when he shouldn't so until he does I'll stand by what I have said!:D

    That's very convenient for you.

    Mairt you should still have the walk. Have it on Portmarnarck beach. St Annes would be full of people frowning at midday unless you go to the designated area which is tiny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    Mairt wrote: »
    If people are making incorrect assumptions about it, its probably prompted by your attitude to the posters in this thread, you appear distinctly unfriendly & self centered.

    You said earlier "Sorry to hijack the thread", then went on to turn what was a good thread geared towards like minded people meeting up, putting names to faces etc into a thread about you, your dog & ratting out people to wardens (in fact seeming to boast about it).

    Well done, screw the walk I couldn't be bothered now.

    Sorry, it wasn't my intention to ruin the thread and I apologise.

    That said, I don't appreciate being called unfriendly and self centred and I would like to state that I got no satisfaction from having to involve the dog warden in an issue I had with an irresponsible dog owner but it was something I felt strongly about.

    Anyway hopefully your thread can go back on track now and if you are so inclined to call me self-centred and unfriendly through reading my posts, I'd be inclined to call your last statement childish and over the top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    beth-lou wrote: »
    That's very convenient for you.

    Such a pot calling the kettle black statement. You have done the exact same thing you are accusing me of but you appear to be taking the moral high ground.

    Wow, I give up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Vel wrote: »
    Sorry, it wasn't my intention to ruin the thread and I apologise.

    That said, I don't appreciate being called unfriendly and self centred and I would like to state that I got no satisfaction from having to involve the dog warden in an issue I had with an irresponsible dog owner but it was something I felt strongly about.

    Anyway hopefully your thread can go back on track now and if you are so inclined to call me self-centred and unfriendly through reading my posts, I'd be inclined to call your last statement childish and over the top.


    Call my post what you like, your opinion mean's nothing to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭beth-lou


    I'm not making any presumptions and standing by them as truth and I certainly amn't taking the moral high ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭MissyN


    Mairt I hope you'll reconsider the walk. I just think it's awful the way threads start out so well with someone suggesting a bunch of us meeting up and having a nice walk together and getting out and about with the dogs (which would be so lovely) and then a big row starts...I've seen it happen so often with threads. I just think it's awful and I can't understand it tbh. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    MissyN wrote: »
    Mairt I hope you'll reconsider the walk. I just think it's awful the way threads start out so well with someone suggesting a bunch of us meeting up and having a nice walk together and getting out and about with the dogs (which would be so lovely) and then a big row starts...I've seen it happen so often with threads. I just think it's awful and I can't understand it tbh. :(



    Ah, I was only throwing a little wobbler ;)

    At the moment my tolerance levels are pretty low, I'm trying to train through an injury and feel like I'm coming down with a cold (sore throat, headache & tiredness).

    Of course it would be great to put faces to user/dogs names, but tbh I'm against St.Annes park. I've never been comfortable walking my dogs there, and you can see what I'm getting at when I talk about the attitudes I've encountered there - some of 'em use boards ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭MissyN


    Mairt I genuinely laughed out loud at that last comment !!!
    I'd be happy with Portmarnock. I used to walk there loads and its a good long walk so that would be great. Hopefully the tide will be out and we'll get a good run out of the dogs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Apologies to anyone i offended or sidetracked.

    I can do Portmarnock too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Killme00 wrote: »
    Apologies to anyone i offended or sidetracked.

    I can do Portmarnock too.


    You didn't do a thing.


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