Mission Impossible (Tuesday 5pm)

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 4:08pm #1

After the excitement of Georgia and Montenegro Irish football fans have another huge match to look forward to in Berlin, Germany, this Tuesday, kick off 5pm (Setanta Sports TV Live) as the pride of Dublin, Saint Patrick's Athletic, represent Ireland in the UEFA cup against Bundesliga giants Hertha Berlin.

St Pats have had very poor form of late losing 3-0 to Bohs and drawing 3-3 with lowly Sporting Fingal. They also have an injury crisis and may have to field many reserve team players.

Hertha on the other hand are flying high, ex Liverpool and current Ukraine International Voronin should start along side Serbia International Marko Pantelic who scores 1 goal every 2 games for Hertha Berlin.

RTE Sport
http://www.rte.ie/sport/index.html

Hertha Berlin Website;
http://www.herthabsc.de/index.php?id=her_en

Hertha Berlin Preview;
http://www.herthabsc.de/index.php?id=16873

St Pats Preview:
http://www.stpatsfc.com/media.php?id=2585

Helix · 15-09-2008 4:10pm

thursday is it not? champo games are on tuesdays, not the uefa

leninbenjamin · 15-09-2008 4:16pm

ha, Polish officials are refereeing the game. wonder if there's any chance of a few dodgy decisions goin Pats way? :pac:

KevIRL · 15-09-2008 4:17pm

Helix wrote: »

thursday is it not? champo games are on tuesdays, not the uefa

This was moved to Tuesday (5pm KO) to facilitate German TV

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 6:23pm

Yes, due to German TV channel DSF the match is on Tuesday at 5pm. The return leg at the RDS in Dublin is also on at 5pm. Tomorrow evening's game is at 5pm on Setanta Ireland.

If St Pats were to progress it would obviously be the greatest acheivment in Irish football since Jack Charlton qualified for Euro 1988. It would be a truly historic occasion for Irish football.

SantryRed · 15-09-2008 6:39pm

Two mates of mine have set out on their journey today to Berlin. A good few Pat's fans going out.

Love to see them get something to have a chance back in the RDS.

Nalz · 15-09-2008 6:41pm

Was about to start a thread on this....didnt know one was started.

Come on Pats, would love to see yee get a draw back to the RDS. Its on RTE2 yeah?

SantryRed · 15-09-2008 6:42pm

Setanta Ireland.

5pm.

Trampas · 15-09-2008 6:47pm

is it on radio?

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 6:53pm

Another great preview, worth a read:

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=865603

Paisley out is a huge blow.

Hertha look like they want to finish the game early

mike65 · 15-09-2008 7:03pm

Giants of the Bundesleague? Mid ranking M'Lord.

Mike

bohsman · 15-09-2008 7:05pm

Pride of Dublin? Not even Pat Dolan tried to get away with calling them that.

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 8:26pm

mike65 wrote: »

Giants of the Bundesleague? Mid ranking M'Lord.

Mike

They play in a stadium with a capacity of 75,000 people.

They have more Internationals that have played for Ireland in the last few years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertha_BSC_Berlin

Their striker Pantelic took Ireland apart at Croke Park.

Their lowest position in the Bundesliga was 12th.

I think its fair to say they are pretty big :pac:

mike65 · 15-09-2008 9:28pm

They are the Villa of Germany in my book (not very big)

Mike

bohsman · 15-09-2008 9:51pm

Gareth37 wrote: »

Their lowest position in the Bundesliga was 12th.

You taking the piss?

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 10:06pm

bohsman wrote: »

You taking the piss?

No, the Bundesliga is ranked one of the best leagues in the world. Of course it is a bit behind England top 4 teams and Spain top 2 teams but other that those big boys there is not much difference between Hertha and the other teams in any country.

People's standards on here are extremely high. They have a team of Internationals against a side from the suburbs of Dublin, Ireland who have less fans than Hertha have players.

In saying all the above I am hoping for a Pats goal in Berlin , if Pats can score early to take the lead we could be on course for the biggest shock in UEFA cup history.

bohsman · 15-09-2008 10:09pm

Theyve been relegated out of the Bundesliga entirely stuck playing in a regional league.

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 10:12pm

bohsman wrote: »

Theyve been relegated out of the Bundesliga entirely stuck playing in a regional league.

Something similar happened to Manchester but they are now one of the best teams in the world.

Fair enough, Hertha are no top CL side but they are easily as good as say Rangers, Celtic, Everton etc and are almost as good as Bohs.

Gareth37 · 15-09-2008 11:00pm

Marko Pantellic scoring against Ireland

The great home of Hertha Berlin in Munich Germany

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bUILDERtHEbOB · 15-09-2008 11:12pm

They have Voronin.

happydayz182 · 15-09-2008 11:25pm

They play voronin:eek:

Based on that...Pats to win 4 nil:pac:

DSB · 15-09-2008 11:33pm

I think whats most important for Pats is that they need to be still in with a fighting chance going into the second leg. Cause thats gonna have a massive impact on attendance at the home leg.

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 12:09am

Highlights of Hertha vs Liverpool in July
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIyjWd7UeQA&feature=related

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 12:16am

Here are the Hertha fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgLC4jGL3qI

Trampas · 16-09-2008 8:21am

Match is on Radio 1 Long Wave from 4.45

djpbarry · 16-09-2008 9:40am

Gareth37 wrote: »

Hertha on the other hand are flying high...

Are they? According to UEFA, they've only won one of their opening four league games.

SantryRed wrote: »

Two mates of mine have set out on their journey today to Berlin. A good few Pat's fans going out.

500 Pats fans expected, apparently.

Gareth37 wrote: »

Their lowest position in the Bundesliga was 12th...

...over the last 9 seasons, according to Wikipedia.

Gareth37 wrote: »

The great home of Hertha Berlin in Munich Germany

:rolleyes: It's pretty big, I guess.

gimmick · 16-09-2008 10:37am

Gareth37 wrote: »

The great home of Hertha Berlin in Munich Germany

Berlin is in Munich now??? :P

German giant or not, this is a huge task for SPA. And I think it is a task they will not overcome. Though if Hertha are not concentrating tonight, who knows what may happen. It is entirely possible they under estimate SPA.

djpbarry · 16-09-2008 10:47am

gimmick wrote: »

Gareth37 wrote: »

The great home of Hertha Berlin in Munich Germany

Berlin is in Munich now???

Jaysus, I can't believe I didn't pick up on that

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gimmick wrote: »

German giant or not, this is a huge task for SPA. And I think it is a task they will not overcome. Though if Hertha are not concentrating tonight, who knows what may happen. It is entirely possible they under estimate SPA.

Yeah, I'd agree. Massive challenge, but I'm really looking forward to it. I wasn't terribly confident after the performance against Fingal last week, but maybe that will act as a bit of a wake-up and keep them focused. I hope they can bring a result back to the RDS; realistically, an away goal is needed.

SectionF · 16-09-2008 10:49am

gimmick wrote: »

Berlin is in Munich now??? :P

German giant or not, this is a huge task for SPA. And I think it is a task they will not overcome. Though if Hertha are not concentrating tonight, who knows what may happen. It is entirely possible they under estimate SPA.

G'wan Pats.!

It's a cup game. Get out of there alive and bring them back to Dublin. They'll get the fright of their lives when they clock the fans and realise the combined might of Liverpool, ManU, Celtic and Sunderland are against them. :P

Nalz · 16-09-2008 10:55am

SectionF wrote: »

They'll get the fright of their lives when they clock the fans and realise the combined might of Liverpool, ManU, Celtic and Sunderland are against them. :P

lol

lisbon_lions · 16-09-2008 10:58am

Extended highlights of their recent 2-2 draw with Wolfsburg (voronins debut):

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1561201/

They look flakey at the back and imo Pats can get a goal over here to take back to the 'core.

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 12:42pm

Its getting really exciting now, just 3 hours to go. Could be an unbeleivable night for Irish football. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

No word of team yet? I will guess:

Ryan

O'Cearuill

Gavin

Harris

Paisley (or Byrne)

Guy

Fahy

Dempsey

Quigley

Murphy

O'Neill

It depends on what system/formation Pats use. Paieley and Murphy are injury doubts so Byrne and Fitzpatrick could start or Quigley up front with Kirby or O'Brien down the left flank.

Should be well worth watching this evening, I had a dream last night of an early St Pats goal :eek:

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 12:55pm

lisbon_lions wrote: »

Extended highlights of their recent 2-2 draw with Wolfsburg (voronins debut):

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1561201/

They look flakey at the back and imo Pats can get a goal over here to take back to the 'core.

Very confident now after seeing that. St Pats, especially Fahy, are excellent at running at teams and that seems to eb Hertha's downfall. Also, ST pATS are good in the air at the back so no problems there either.

Come on St Pats, do it for Ireland :pac:

CiaranC · 16-09-2008 1:01pm

djpbarry wrote: »

500 Pats fans expected, apparently.

Ffs, they cant even muster that number to bring to Tolka...

djpbarry · 16-09-2008 1:11pm

Gareth37 wrote: »

It depends on what system/formation Pats use. Paieley and Murphy are injury doubts so Byrne and Fitzpatrick could start or Quigley up front with Kirby or O'Brien down the left flank.

I would imagine they'll start with 5 across the middle; Guy and Quigley on the flanks, Dempsey and Lynch sitting in front of the back four, Fahey as the playmaker and Fitzpatrick as the lone front-man.

CiaranC wrote: »

Ffs, they cant even muster that number to bring to Tolka...

In fairness, there's far more interest in seeing Pats playing Hertha than watching them canter to another handy 3 points against Rovers.

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 1:21pm

djpbarry wrote: »

I would imagine they'll start with 5 across the middle; Guy and Quigley on the flanks, Dempsey and Lynch sitting in front of the back four, Fahey as the playmaker and Fitzpatrick as the lone front-man.

That sounds about right. paisley and Murphy are out injured so:

Ryan

OCearuill

Gavin

Harris

Byrne

Lynch

Dempsey

Guy (

) --- Fahy

Quigley

Fitzpatrick

Hertha are giving Pats no respect. Playing a 4 3 3 to finish them off early and only 7000 fans to turn up. I think a lot of people will learn a lot about Irish football over the next week and I hope a shock is on the cards :eek:

CiaranC · 16-09-2008 1:28pm

djpbarry wrote: »

In fairness, there's far more interest in seeing Pats playing Hertha than watching them canter to another handy 3 points against Rovers.

Bunch of bleedin gloryhunters more like.

Anyway, I hope they get a result out there. Dont see it myself, but never say never.

_blank_ · 16-09-2008 2:04pm

I wonder did Pat's ask for the first leg to be in Dublin.

Not that it matters, Hertha to win by a comfortable two or three this evening.

djpbarry · 16-09-2008 2:07pm

Des wrote: »

I wonder did Pat's ask for the first leg to be in Dublin.

I don't think so, no. As far as I'm aware, there would not have been a ground available for them to use.

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 2:09pm

Des wrote: »

I wonder did Pat's ask for the first leg to be in Dublin.

Not that it matters, Hertha to win by a comfortable two or three this evening.

You obviously have not seen Pats play :pac:

Irish football is better than Scottish football now and Pats are better than Rangers and Celtic put together :pac:

_blank_ · 16-09-2008 2:09pm

djpbarry wrote: »

I don't think so, no. As far as I'm aware, there would not have been a ground available for them to use.

Of course, the RDS is being used for the egg-chasing last weekend and this.

Are any Liverpool fans going to the second leg to cheer on their player?

Shambolic retards if they do.

Gareth37 · 16-09-2008 2:14pm

Des wrote: »

Of course, the RDS is being used for the egg-chasing last weekend and this.

Are any Liverpool fans going to the second leg to cheer on their player?

Shambolic retards if they do.

I hope that these pro British "fans" too and bring a Union Jack with them too. They will look very foolish when the Pats qualify :pac:

Ronan|Raven · 16-09-2008 2:17pm

Pats wont qualify. Hope they give a good account of themselves and keep it respectable for the second leg.

monkey9 · 16-09-2008 2:18pm

Des wrote: »

Of course, the RDS is being used for the egg-chasing last weekend and this.

Are any Liverpool fans going to the second leg to cheer on their player?

Shambolic retards if they do.

To see Voronin play?? Probably just turn up to make sure he actually is a Berlin player now.

Can't see Pat's getting a result tonight, i really can't. I'd say three one to Hertha. Hopefully, we get an away goal to bring back. Fahey being passed fit is a massive boost (if he is passed fit, haven't heard yet). Without him, there'd be no chance.

Nalz · 16-09-2008 2:23pm

Des wrote: »

Are any Liverpool fans going to the second leg to cheer on their player? Shambolic retards if they do.

They hardly would Des? Its bad enough that some Soccer fans from Ireland dont know this game is on or acknowledging it, but to do that!

_blank_ · 16-09-2008 2:25pm

Trilla wrote: »

They hardly would Des? Its bad enough that some Soccer fans from Ireland dont know this game is on or acknowledging it, but to do that!

Some absolute muppets went to see Bohs playing some Swedish outfit, and supported the Swedes, just because Larsson was playing for them.

Nalz · 16-09-2008 2:26pm

Des wrote: »

Some absolute muppets went to see Bohs playing some Swedish outfit, and supported the Swedes, just because Larsson was playing for them.

:mad:

eirebhoy · 16-09-2008 2:53pm

Des wrote: »

Some absolute muppets went to see Bohs playing some Swedish outfit, and supported the Swedes, just because Larsson was playing for them.

Liar.

There's a couple of people on here that like to make things up to suit them. SectionF and the Sunderland thing for example. The Irish are no different to any other nationality in the world with our interest in Sunderland and he knows that.

Anyway, I shouldn't ruin this thread. Looking forward to the game.

Gavin "shels" · 16-09-2008 3:02pm

Des wrote: »

Some absolute muppets went to see Bohs playing some Swedish outfit, and supported the Swedes, just because Larsson was playing for them.

Drogheda -v- Helsingborgs IF in Dalyer. Few Drogs fans I know who were at it say that could easily see at least 100 odd Celtic jersey wearing goons cheering after he scored.:rolleyes: Can't beat the oul Oirish "fans" I tell you.

monkey9 · 16-09-2008 3:02pm

Has the Pat's team been announced yet?

Gavin "shels" · 16-09-2008 3:04pm

monkey9 wrote: »

Has the Pat's team been announced yet?

Nope afaik.

Mission Impossible (Tuesday 5pm)

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