Country gone mad???

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 9:33pm #1

Ok, it's exactly 10:31PM, I want to get a bottle of wine and in this nanny state kip that I live in, I can't. Am I the only person thinking that this country has gone mad lately??? What is wrong with wanting to buy a bottle of wine at this time??? Christ, this annoys the hell out me, you can't scratch your arse these days and there is a law against it...

Guy:Incognito · 13-09-2008 9:34pm

why didnt u buy it at before they close? This has been talked about at lenght here and in the media, it's not like they just sprung it on you.

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 9:37pm

Stekelly wrote: »

why didnt u buy it at before they close? This has been talked about at lenght here and in the media, it's not like they just sprung it on you.

I didn't want to have a glass of wine earlier!

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 9:37pm

I got my wine before ten. Yes its annoying but its not the end of the world. Although maybe if you are sober and really don't want to be it is a problem. Might I suggest illegal drugs?

utick · 13-09-2008 9:38pm

disgraceful tbh. sounds like ireland is moving into the dark ages agian

roneythetube · 13-09-2008 9:41pm

brianthebard wrote: »

I got my wine before ten. Yes its annoying but its not the end of the world. Although maybe if you are sober and really don't want to be it is a problem. Might I suggest illegal drugs?

there is ur solution.. yer dealer don;t close early. if ya lived in Conemarra sure why ya might even get poteen as well!!

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 9:41pm

brianthebard wrote: »

I got my wine before ten. Yes its annoying but its not the end of the world. Although maybe if you are sober and really don't want to be it is a problem. Might I suggest illegal drugs?

Haha, well it might be for some but it would be a first for me, just not into it and never have been...

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 9:44pm

F*kin backward kip, you wouldn't see the likes of it in Cuba.

Guy:Incognito · 13-09-2008 9:45pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

I didn't want to have a glass of wine earlier!

So when the off licences closed at 11:30 before, did you not suddently decide at 12 that you wanted wine then bemoan the state of the country on the internet?

Or is this specifically a 10:30 based issue?

At least you'll know to have a bottle in in future.

Latchy · 13-09-2008 9:45pm

Why i always get my stock of beer and wine in early through the week.I might not actually want a drink, but just knowing it's there if i do is a reasurence and you never know who might turn up .

Even Abie maybe

Guy:Incognito · 13-09-2008 9:46pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

F*kin backward kip, you wouldn't see the likes of it in Cuba.

You wouldnt see the likes of a computer to complain about it on either.

utick · 13-09-2008 9:46pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

F*kin backward kip, you wouldn't see the likes of it in Cuba.

true but maybe u can make money off it

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 9:49pm

latchyco wrote: »

Why i always get my stock of beer and wine in early through the week.I might not actually want a drink, but just knowing it's there if i do is a reasurence and you never know who might turn up .

Even Abie maybe

Whois Abie!?!

Adamcp898 · 13-09-2008 9:51pm

TBH I don't really see what the new closing time will do anyway, it's not as if all the people out there who get that drunk (presumably the crowd it's meant to target) only buy alcohol from 22.00 to 22.30. It isn't going to solve anything.

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 9:57pm

Adamcp898 wrote: »

TBH I don't really see what the new closing time will do anyway, it's not as if all the people out there who get that drunk (presumably the crowd it's meant to target) only buy alcohol from 22.00 to 22.30. It isn't going to solve anything.

I can kind of understand it during weekdays, but Jesus, it's saturday, it's peacetime, what on earth is achieved by closing an off-licence at 10.30, it's just pure daft?

Davidius · 13-09-2008 9:57pm

Not really an issue to be honest.

All you really need to do is stock up earlier.

In fact I think nanny state is a pretty cool guy eh passes drnikng laws and doesnt afraid of anything.

Mena · 13-09-2008 9:59pm

Only a politician would ever think that closing off alcohol sales earlier would reduce drunken behaviour.

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 9:59pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

Haha, well it might be for some but it would be a first for me, just not into it and never have been...

Pretty sure if you went to a pub for a takeaway you'd still get served. I've heard of chinese resturants in Galway that sell booze at all hours now as well, although will prolly be a bit more expensive. If you are sober and don't want to be its totally worth it imo.

Zaph · 13-09-2008 10:03pm

Consider yourself lucky you don't live in Swededn. The off-licence opening hours there are ridiculous:

Mon - Wed 10.00 - 18.00
Thurs - Fri 10.00 - 19.00
Sat 10.00 - 15.00
Sun CLOSED

The state owns all the liquor stores, and in some places where there isn't one you have to order from the local agent and your booze should be delivered the next day. Why haven't they all emigrated by now?

ejmaztec · 13-09-2008 10:04pm

There's nothing I like more than a good whine on a Saturday night.

Adamcp898 · 13-09-2008 10:08pm

brianthebard wrote: »

Pretty sure if you went to a pub for a takeaway you'd still get served. I've heard of chinese resturants in Galway that sell booze at all hours now as well, although will prolly be a bit more expensive. If you are sober and don't want to be its totally worth it imo.

I'm pretty sure there's pubs out there that'll still give oyu carry outs too

Zaph wrote: »

Consider yourself lucky you don't live in Swededn. The off-licence opening hours there are ridiculous:

Mon - Wed 10.00 - 18.00
Thurs - Fri 10.00 - 19.00
Sat 10.00 - 15.00
Sun CLOSED

The state owns all the liquor stores, and in some places where there isn't one you have to order from the local agent and your booze should be delivered the next day. Why haven't they all emigrated by now?

Might explain the recent growth in popularity of Kopperburg over here then, must have made too much of it and couldn't get rid of it :pac:

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 10:09pm

Zaph wrote: »

Consider yourself lucky you don't live in Swededn. The off-licence opening hours there are ridiculous:

Mon - Wed 10.00 - 18.00
Thurs - Fri 10.00 - 19.00
Sat 10.00 - 15.00
Sun CLOSED

The state owns all the liquor stores, and in some places where there isn't one you have to order from the local agent and your booze should be delivered the next day. Why haven't they all emigrated by now?

There's a big moonshine industry as a result of their strict rules though. What are the chances of a poiteen comeback soon?

Adamcp898 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there's pubs out there that'll still give oyu carry outs too

That's what I meant by take away, thanks for the confirmation though. *runs to pub for moar booze.*

Mena · 13-09-2008 10:10pm

Zaph wrote: »

Why haven't they all emigrated by now?

Perhaps they've realised that you don't actually need drink to live? You can function (far better) without it? Ye Irish and yer drink

Zaph · 13-09-2008 10:11pm

Mena wrote: »

Perhaps they've realised that you don't actually need drink to live? You can function (far better) without it?

I've heard that before but I refuse to be swayed by such idle speculation. :P

mike65 · 13-09-2008 10:14pm

What are the chances of people buying wine before 10 pm? Pretty decent if you, like plan ahead!

Mike

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 13-09-2008 10:23pm

Not really an issue to be honest.

Why is there always a spate of posts in these kind of threads defending this country's bizarre legislation? Usually along the lines of the above quote, or 'why didnt you go earlier' or 'smoking is bad for you anyway' or 'move country. There is NO excuse for this country's pubs/offies closing earlier.

It's sad to see so many people pandering to Fianna Fails blatant sanitisation . I for one am extremely worried about the route this country is going down.

syklops · 13-09-2008 10:36pm

there is nothing I hate more than pandering!!!!

Seriously, we need to do something about these restrictive laws. It started with carrier bags, then alcohol, soon we will be taxed on the air we breath.

To the OP, I am in D4, and have a bottle free. If you are still in need, and you are nearby, PM me and we will make a deal.

Seriously though is anyone else interested in protesting against this daft law?

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 10:47pm

What sort of protest had you in mind?

Guy:Incognito · 13-09-2008 10:50pm

syklops wrote: »

It started with carrier bags,

Chargin for carrier bags is a great idea, not least because there isnt half as many floating around the place.

People take free stuff for granted.

brianthebard wrote: »

What sort of protest had you in mind?

Everyone meet at the off licence at 4 tomorow afternoon and buy all their drink, that'll show them.

Tar.Aldarion · 13-09-2008 10:50pm

If you can't get off your arse before 10PM to buy something, you don't deserve it.

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 10:52pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

If you can't get off your arse before 10PM to buy something, you don't deserve it.

yeah lets see a little dedication to your alcoholism op!

towel401 · 13-09-2008 10:54pm

buy your wine in bulk for a whole year from some wholesaler or other country where it's cheap.

or make the stuff yourself. that way you don't need to deal with or be affected by this mainstream crap.

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 10:55pm

Davidius wrote: »

Not really an issue to be honest.

All you really need to do is stock up earlier.

In fact I think nanny state is a pretty cool guy eh passes drnikng laws and doesnt afraid of anything.

Next thing I'm gonna have a drill sergeant waking me up at 5:30AM, making me do 200 press up's before force feeding me a salad for breakfast. This country makes me want to throw up, I'm sitting here looking out at a green in the estate, there are a gang of kids knack*r drinking in the corner of the green and here am I and I can't get a drink, no wonder people start taking heroin!

Zaph · 13-09-2008 10:57pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

I'm sitting here looking out at a green in the estate, there are a gang of kids knack*r drinking in the corner of the green and here am I and I can't get a drink, no wonder people start taking heroin!

That just means that the local kids are better organised than you when it comes to buying their drink.

Tar.Aldarion · 13-09-2008 10:58pm

Then please leave for a better country.

syklops · 13-09-2008 10:58pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

If you can't get off your arse before 10PM to buy something, you don't deserve it.

Well thats wonderful Thank you for giving us this little iota of knowledge. I do have a question for you though. What if you work until 10pm???

Beleive it or not in this modern age of ours some people work outside of the 9-5 shift. Network managemet centres, technical support, medical professionals, police, army, off license employees, the list is endless. If they finish at or after 10pm, what do they do? Do they not deserve the option of a drink when they finish work? And before you ask, yes I work outside of the 9-5 schedule. This affects me, and I feel strongly about it.

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 11:00pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

Next thing I'm gonna have a drill sergeant waking me up at 5:30AM, making me do 200 press up's before force feeding me a salad for breakfast. This country makes me want to throw up, I'm sitting here looking out at a green in the estate, there are a gang of kids knack*r drinking in the corner of the green and here am I and I can't get a drink, no wonder people start taking heroin!

Well there's your answer, go buy a naggin from them, or a few cans.

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 11:00pm

brianthebard wrote: »

There's a big moonshine industry as a result of their strict rules though. What are the chances of a poiteen comeback soon?

+1, I'm going to set up a delivery service for out of hours service! I've discovered a loop hole in the law, my local off licence will deliver drink to you provided that you have ordered it before 10AM. I've a cool idea, I'm going to set up a website where you can buy credits (1 credit = 1 Euro), and you keep this money in your online account. Say you top up with 20 Euro. You can then order alcohol up to the value of 20 Euro and I'll deliver it to your door! Once you've paid for your drink(have credit in your account and selected online your requirements), before 10AM, the transaction has been made and I'm just providing a delivery service. ya see God never closes one door before opening another!!!

:D:D

bigeasyeah · 13-09-2008 11:01pm

I dont agree with that new regulation myself on the grounds that it was introduced to curb boorish drunken behavior.Well put simply-it wont.The reason being -youll always find an idiot in any given place or situation be they drunk or otherwise.Closing the off-licence a bit earlier wont change a thing.

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 11:02pm

syklops wrote: »

Well thats wonderful Thank you for giving us this little iota of knowledge. I do have a question for you though. What if you work until 10pm???

Beleive it or not in this modern age of ours some people work outside of the 9-5 shift. Network managemet centres, technical support, medical professionals, police, army, off license employees, the list is endless. If they finish at or after 10pm, what do they do? Do they not deserve the option of a drink when they finish work? And before you ask, yes I work outside of the 9-5 schedule. This affects me, and I feel strongly about it.

+1. I was wrestling with a gearbox for most of the day and the last thing on my mind was alcohol.

Overflow · 13-09-2008 11:02pm

You think 10:30 is bad or the times in Sweden!!

Welcome to Norway, its hell for me, where you can only buy beer in the supermarket.

Opening Hours:
Mon-Fri: 10am-8pm
Sat: 10am-6pm
Sun: Forget about it!

You can only buy wine and spirits in Goverment run Off-License's called 'Vinmonopolet', there usually hidden in some back corner of a town, with no windows. They put everything you buy into black bags, so people cant see whats in the bag !!

Opening Hours:
Mon-Fri: 10am-4pm
Sat: 10am-2pm
Sun: Forget about it!

Nothing worse on a Saturday, its gone past 2pm and a friend invites you over for a season, you fancy some wine or a bottle vodka, guess what, your sh*t out of luck.

The other alternative is to go to the Pub and pay between €8-€10 for a pint, €20 for a cocktail, your wallet will be very empty very soon.

For this reason Norwegians dont generally go out till after 12 midnight because it would be too expensive to drink all evening in the pub. This behaviour has actually become kind of part of their culture, they usually always have a session in someones house until 12am before heading out to the clubs, its called a Vorspiel, directly translated it means, foreplay;) So most Saturday nights you can here loud music and sessions all over the place, people dont really seem to mind the noise either, i think its just accepted because of their strict drinking laws.

Maybe this is the Road Ireland is heading down??

syklops · 13-09-2008 11:03pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

Then please leave for a better country.

I'm not leaving for anywhere. I do think it is my right to ask for a better country. So I am seriously asking this board to consider a protest against this. In terms of what type, I think we need to get numbers together, and march up kildare street, blocking the taxi's getting up there, and bring our concern to the taoiseach.

Tar.Aldarion · 13-09-2008 11:04pm

Work 24/7 syklops, can't go buy a drink for later? Since you probably won't be drinking on your own nobody could get it for you?

So you to work to whatever hour, buy a drink and go home and drink it? On your own? With work buddies? When all your pals are in pubs and clubs? And an hour has made all the difference?
I have worked regularly until 3am/4am and never had a problem getting drink ever. Then again I am not lazy and bought some before I 'needed' it.

Guy:Incognito · 13-09-2008 11:04pm

syklops wrote: »

Do they not deserve the option of a drink when they finish work? .

No.

Anyway, what about the people who worked till 11:30 under the old system?Did you care about them?

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 11:05pm

Tara Le d'Arion wrote: »

Then please leave for a better country.

Yeah, because that changed things in the past, maybe we should all pi*s off into the sea???

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 11:06pm

syklops wrote: »

I'm not leaving for anywhere. I do think it is my right to ask for a better country. So I am seriously asking this board to consider a protest against this. In terms of what type, I think we need to get numbers together, and march up kildare street, blocking the taxi's getting up there, and bring our concern to the taoiseach.

Tis an awful pit that election wasn't six months later.

Guy:Incognito · 13-09-2008 11:06pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

maybe we should all pi*s off into the sea???

Maybe you should.

Darragh29 · 13-09-2008 11:08pm

Stekelly wrote: »

Maybe you should.

Good lad.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-09-2008 11:08pm

I nipped out twenty minutes ago (ten to one am local time) to get some beers from the local kebab place. Might do it again later - he's onpen til 2.30. I can get the metro to the centre if I want something stronger.

I do NOT miss Ireland!

Zaph · 13-09-2008 11:09pm

Stekelly wrote: »

Anyway, what about the people who worked till 11:30 under the old system?Did you care about them?

I agree. If they closed at 4.30am somebody would complain about being inconvenienced. That's just the way it is.

What about the times when I can't sleep and wouldn't mind having a new book to read at 2am, but I can't buy one because all the bookshops are closed. Should I organise a march on the Dáil demanding that Easons becomes a 24 hour bookshop to cater for all the insomniacs of the country?

brianthebard · 13-09-2008 11:09pm

Darragh29 wrote: »

Tis an awful pit that election wasn't six months later.

I'd say there'll be another within 18 months, maybe less.

Country gone mad???

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