Green Bay Packers

csk

Good solid win last week. Rodgers looked good, liked the first TD throw, liked the scrambling, didn't really put a foot wrong. Hopefully he can keep it up.

Jennings was also good. Made a big play to set up the first TD, thought Rodgers throw was just a slight bit off but Jennings showed the player he is and caught it anyway. Also had another nice hook up Rodgers after that. It would be great f these two young players were to develop an understanding.

Defence was good without being spectacular. A few Sacks went astray and only one turnover, they'll have to step it up. The good thing is it was only the first game of the season, plenty of time to improve!

Lions up this week: should be a Pack win! The Lions are poor and don't look up to much. The Pack should be able to handle 'em!

Pherekydes

Agree with that analysis. The O-line was a bit off, but it should come together. If they cut out the penalties the offence will be tough to stop. Nice to see Ryan Grant breaking a big one. He's not at full strength yet, either. Blackmon is a spectacularly dangerous return man.

Lookin' good.

csk

Yeah the penalties were really fcukin annoying alright. So elementary. I mean they gave away a couple of penalties on ineligible receivers down field. Now I know one of those was on an 'off-the-cuff' play but still it's hardly rocket science for the O-line. They definitely need to stamp those stupid penalties out.

I was happy to see Grant get that run as well. I'm still unsure about him though the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. They will need him to have another good year if only to take the pressure off Rodgers.

FlutterinBantam

Hmmmm not quite so optimistic.Ford Field is loud and given the penalties Pack conceded at home,would worry that the O line could keep it together.

Also Rodgers is having his first away game in a very hostile place..... will not be a cakewalk.

Hoping for a Pack win but would not be at all surprised if beaten.

ReacherCreature

Lions shouldn't be too bad this week. Rogers is coming to his own, although people shouldn't be saying "Brett Who?" just yet. Rogers has many more games left before he's a bona fide starter.

Micheal Turner in his first game with the Falcons made the Detroit Lions look like a Pop warner team so with the already good Grant, they should be run over.

If Rogers plays like he did vs. the Vikings and the defense holds up, it'll be an easy W.

cooker3

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Hmmmm not quite so optimistic.Ford Field is loud and given the penalties Pack conceded at home,would worry that the O line could keep it together.

Also Rodgers is having his first away game in a very hostile place..... will not be a cakewalk.

Hoping for a Pack win but would not be at all surprised if beaten.

He did play the majority of the game in Dallas and did a better job then Brett did. I was happy with Rodgers. I am more hopeful for this season, with all the injuries around the league, it looks like a very open year. No reason why the Pack can't make a big run like last year.

Vikings

I know as a Vikings fan this will obviously come across as a little biased... but I thought the performance from the Packers was less than solid.

The Vikings played even worse, don't get me wrong but it was the Vikings who lost that game. Not the other way around.

Why you won the game:
Jennings big catch - nice play by WR, poor play by the CB.
Sharper missing that fumble - he falls on that ball we get at least 3 if not 7 points.
Grants long run - poor play by the defense, terrible tackling.
Blackmon punt return - again poor tackling and a terrible punt.

3 out of those 4 reasons did not involve Aaron Rodgers in any way, sure he managed the ball well but he didnt go out and win the game. If the Vikings had of performed on the night there is no way we would have lost.

I'm still a little bitter to be honest, but looking forward to the the return game in the dome.

tallaghtoutlaws

Vikings wrote: »

I know as a Vikings fan this will obviously come across as a little biased... but I thought the performance from the Packers was less than solid.

The Vikings played even worse, don't get me wrong but it was the Vikings who lost that game. Not the other way around.

Why you won the game:
Jennings big catch - nice play by WR, poor play by the CB.
Sharper missing that fumble - he falls on that ball we get at least 3 if not 7 points.
Grants long run - poor play by the defense, terrible tackling.
Blackmon punt return - again poor tackling and a terrible punt.

3 out of those 4 reasons did not involve Aaron Rodgers in any way, sure he managed the ball well but he didnt go out and win the game. If the Vikings had of performed on the night there is no way we would have lost.

I'm still a little bitter to be honest, but looking forward to the the return game in the dome.

Its funny you say all this sitting in a bar in Wisconsin with Packers fans watching this and they all thought it was the Vikings that gave them this game. Sure as you said Rodgers did well but he didn't win the game for them. Let them play better teams then we will see can he manage a better game. Its funny he had 4 imcompletions more than his stats showed but the ironic thing is penalties on his own guys called them back. We will see he has got potential.

csk

Well they made hard work of that in the second half. That they didn't close out the game when so dominant is a cause for concern and more stupid penalties again this week that were annoying as fcuk.

Jennings though looked class, hopefully him and Rodgers will continue to build a connection throughout the season. Rodgers didn't really put a foot wrong, good scrambling round again.

FlutterinBantam

Indeed, should have never let Lions back into the game.

Rodgers very impressive though, didnt panic.

kryogen

yeah i thought th egame was over at half time and didnt pay it much attention till i saw how close the lions got! did they completely switch off or what?? happy to see Rogers play well again though

He didnt panic when the crunch came, that is a promising sign for packers fans

cooker3

Twice we have taken the foot off the pedal in the 2nd half. We need to sort that out and play for all 4 quarters, not just when the opposition are close in the scoreline. The amount of penalties conceded especially by the o line needs to be addressed too.

Rodgers did well again bar that 1 fumble, in saying all this Detroit are awful. Kitna handed us the game. We will get a much better idea of how good Rodgers and the team is next week against Dallas

Prefabsprouter

cooker3 wrote: »

Twice we have took the foot off the pedal in the 2nd half. We need to sort that out and play for all 4 quarters, not just when the opposition are close in the scoreline. The amount of penalties conceded especially by the o line needs to be addressed too.

Rodgers did well again bar that 1 fumble, in saying all this Detroit are awful. Kitna handed us the game. We will get a much better idea of how good Rodgers and the team is next week against Dallas

Packers have got to be one of the favourites in the NFC and I have to say Rodgers is a real pro the way he handled all the upheaval over Favre's retirement. Fair play to him I say. It's his time now.

FlutterinBantam

Next Sundays game against Dallas will answer a lot of questions.

A win for the 'Pack and they are genuine contenders.

They need a bit more punch in the Redzone though, fairly conservative play calling there so far.

eagle eye

I think its all about that O line for the Packers, I did not rate them coming into the season but they have done the job so far. If they can hold out for the season the Pack can go very well. I don't see them beating the Cowboys though, and believe me I'd love to see it. Their offense is too potent for the Pack d imo.

Karlusss

How could you not rate a 13-3 team? Literally just because of Rodgers? Cassell in NE is a prime example of how an experienced and talented team can survive without their future HoF quarterback, and surely the fact that the Packers org did not want Favre back would indicate that they genuinely believed in Rodgers.

I have the Packers over the Cowboys this weekend. Rodgers will slump sometime, and he needs to, to grow as a player. But it won't be this week.

eagle eye

Karlusss wrote: »

How could you not rate a 13-3 team? Literally just because of Rodgers? Cassell in NE is a prime example of how an experienced and talented team can survive without their future HoF quarterback, and surely the fact that the Packers org did not want Favre back would indicate that they genuinely believed in Rodgers.

I have the Packers over the Cowboys this weekend. Rodgers will slump sometime, and he needs to, to grow as a player. But it won't be this week.

If you are talking to me, I didn't rate the O line. I seen a lot of the packers games last season and the amount of times Favre was sacked for big yardage loss and pressured to throw the ball away and the amount of times it was his movement that got him out of trouble rather than the O line protecting him. I'm not saying they were brutal but not top notch either, but so far they seem to be doing the job this season.

Karlusss

Yeah. I think Rodgers being more mobile is a big help as well. He's scrambled and passed from outside the pocket probably more than he should have to, but it's worked out so far. Might not be so good when he gets hit from the blindside some week and they have to put Brian Brohm in.

Pherekydes

eagle eye wrote: »

If you are talking to me, I didn't rate the O line. I seen a lot of the packers games last season and the amount of times Favre was sacked for big yardage loss and pressured to throw the ball away and the amount of times it was his movement that got him out of trouble rather than the O line protecting him. I'm not saying they were brutal but not top notch either, but so far they seem to be doing the job this season.

You do realise that the Packers were 3rd in the league last year in sacks conceded? And Ryan Grant was 2nd in the league in rushing in his starting stretch. So the line gets some credit, surely?

eagle eye

Pherekydes wrote: »

You do realise that the Packers were 3rd in the league last year in sacks conceded? And Ryan Grant was 2nd in the league in rushing in his starting stretch. So the line gets some credit, surely?

Well I didn't actually. I haven't based anything I said on stats at all. Its from watching games last year. If you read what I did say, I did not mention the amount of times he was sacked as high, although I have to say I am surprised at them stats. When he got sacked though it was not in the pocket very often but in the backfield. There were a lot of times also where Favre managed to get himself out of trouble. There were also a lot of occasions where he threw the ball away, that would be interesting as a stat.
I was not aware of the running game stats either.
Still, every time I watched the Packers last year I was not impressed with the O line, stats may prove otherwise, it was just a personal observation.

eagle eye

Just to add there, while I wasn't impressed let me make it clear I didn't say they were horrendous anywhere. I just feel that a good blitzing defence can cause them a lot of problems. As I said, they have done the job so far this year.

FlutterinBantam

Let's get it back on track against the Bucs today... won't be easy.

SantryRed

Anyone got a link for a stream for it?

MC_G

Try www.stoogetv.com they usually have links to all NFL games. It's where I get my fix anyways.

SantryRed

Got one. Rodgers throws two interceptions in the first half.

FlutterinBantam

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Let's get it back on track against the Bucs today... won't be easy.

It wasn't ..we didn't.

Pack punchless on offence had to depend on the D to score .

Probably will struggle in that area all season, Ryan Grant not bustin thru like last year. .500 looks good right now.

Karlusss

Come on Brian Brohm.

davyjose

Karlusss wrote: »

Come on Brian Brohm.

They can't say they weren't warned. I can only imagine what the fans in Green Bay are saying now. :eek:

FlutterinBantam

Not Rodgers fault entirely, OL is shíte this year and Ryan Grant is showing up as a bit of a bust.

Donald Driver who was Favre's go to guy is getting frozen out and as a senior veteran, that does not bode well for a good receiving corps.

Karlusss

It's Flynn, the back-up.

Rodgers hopes to play, but if he ends up getting hurt for more than 3-4 games, I'd say they'll end up going to Culpepper, Rattay or Simms, especially if they look like they're still in playoff shape.

Driver seems to be missing out because Rodgers likes to throw underneath/ YAC curls to Jennings. They still get the yards, and he still gets occasional deep ball. I'm sure they'll figure out how to use him better quickly enough.

ReacherCreature

Ryan Grant, bust or not?

FlutterinBantam

So far bust.

however an RB's performance in very dependent on the OL and FB.

Not great in GB at the minute.

#33 was an unsung hero as was #88

tallaghtoutlaws

Karlusss wrote: »

It's Flynn, the back-up..

It was always going to be Flynn he had a better pre-season than Brohm. If Rodgers has to leave game Flynn will take the snaps. The only way Brohm will see action is if Flynn gets injured or is shockingly bad.

Karlusss

I wouldn't like to see Rodgers take snaps if his arm-strength is poor. Whatever about aggravating the injury, there's nothing worse for a QB than seeing plays that your arm can't make. It'd be really bad for Rodgers psychologically, especially if a) he had to come out of the game and b) they lost because of an underthrow or an interception at a vital time.

FlutterinBantam

No sign of Rodgers on the field at Lambeau, could be a rookie start.

Source WKTI Packers gameday

FlutterinBantam

Rodgers active and will start.

AJ Hawk also active

FlutterinBantam

Frikken 'ell... shoooooite first quarter.... not lookin good.

FlutterinBantam

Nice win against the Colts last night, Rogers looking good and Grant beginning to make some ground.

Pack looked good, best performance for some time.

Pherekydes

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Nice win against the Colts last night, Rogers looking good and Grant beginning to make some ground.

Pack looked good, best performance for some time.

Yep, the D played a stormer. Most of Indy's yards came on those last two drives when the game was effectively over.

Bye week coming up. Will they go from strength to strength?

RichTea

Pherekydes wrote: »

Yep, the D played a stormer. Most of Indy's yards came on those last two drives when the game was effectively over.

Bye week coming up. Will they go from strength to strength?

I'm tipping us to ruin the Titans winning streak.

FlutterinBantam

Steady now..steady!!!

Grant and Rodgers were good. Getting more and more happy with Rodgers, during the Favre debacle was saying that if McCarthy was happy with him that was good enough for me, and sticking with that. He seems just all round solid, maybe not as spectacular as Brett, but not sure that's a bad thing. Of course he has to keep doing it for 15 years now to match Brett, but early signs are encouraging.

The only small quibble was that, yet again, the offence seemed to take their foot of the gas in the second half, and just as against the Lions they relied on the defence to finish off the game as a contest.

Prefabsprouter

for me Rodgers is as good as Green Bay could have hoped for after the Brett Favre era. He has shown poise, grace(especially during Favre's annual will he/wont he phase) and he has shown that he can lead the offense. He'll be a good QB for the "pack" for years provided he continues as he has started.

Me, I'm just basking in the rare glow of victory for the Raiders as they beat the Jets. We'll see how good the Raiders running game is against Baltimore next week and I'm not confident

Yeah thought they blew it with that time out call before the last field goal. A few coaches have called that lately and it doesn't always work out.

Prefabsprouter

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Yeah thought they blew it with that time out call before the last field goal. A few coaches have called that lately and it doesn't always work out.

Mike Shanahan used it to good effect against the Raiders last year :eek:

FlutterinBantam

Meanwhile back on topic.... I'm reasonably satisfied with the Packers games to the bye week. Some tough ones coming up,but I like Rogers,and the way he handles things. Doesn't get picked off too much, which is good.

Did some franchise record held by legendary James Lofton fall the other night? Pretty sure there was some reference to James 'Loftus' (sic) on Sky

Pherekydes

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Did some franchise record held by legendary James Lofton fall the other night? Pretty sure there was some reference to James 'Loftus' (sic) on Sky

Donald Driver overtook Lofton in career receptions. That's what Kevin Cadle made reference to, if my memory serves. Sterling Sharpe still leads the way, though. Driver needs another 65 to overtake Sharpe. In career receiving yardage, Lofton leads Sharpe, Don Hutson :eek:, and Driver.

As a side note: Lofton played 136 games for the Packers, Driver has reached 136, Hutson played 116 and Sharpe only played 112 games.

FlutterinBantam

Would love a win against Tennessee today, might be a tad much to hope for though.

What do you think?

SantryRed

Eight in the box to stop the run and rely on the cornerbacks to do their job.

Think it's the only way. Really think Rodgers will have a big game today.

Pherekydes

They need to have a complete team game to win this. Coming off the bye, they'll be healthy and motivated. Grant needs to have a big game and the Pack needs to have a few long drives to spell the D.


I was a bit surprised to see KGB released.