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Impatient drivers
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10-09-2008 11:24pm#1A few months ago there was a thread about speeding which got rather... heated
when people admitted they broke the speed limits. I was one of those who admitted that yes, I have broken the speed limit on an open dual carriageway.
This is the other side of the coin though: regularly when I'm driving at 60mph (the limit) or slightly over it and I'm in the right lane (the supposed "fast lane" which is the correct lane for me) I become aware of a car up my ass and the lights flashing hysterically. This is also sometimes accompanied by beeping. Then the overtaking and then the obscene gestures and language mouthed at me. Today's such incident involved a guy tapping the side of his head to indicate that I was behaving like a lunatic for not exceeding the speed limit significantly enough in the fast lane.
What exactly are these people's grievances? Do they have this notion that the "fast lane" is the "lane in which you can break the speed limit"? A person doing 50mph, yes I can understand how that would test a person's patience to such a degree... but the driver in front doing slightly over the limit? What's problematic or inconsiderate about that? Why get pissed off about someone not breaking the law? So many questions...
So who here does it?
And do others experience such intimidating behaviour often?0
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It's because you're a woman and there has to be something you're doing wrong. //darkman2 mode
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A few months ago there was a thread about speeding which got rather... heated when people admitted they broke the speed limits. I was one of those who admitted that yes, I have broken the speed limit on an open dual carriageway.
This is the other side of the coin though: regularly when I'm driving at 60mph (the limit) or slightly over it and I'm in the right lane (the supposed "fast lane" which is the correct lane for me) I become aware of a car up my ass and the lights flashing hysterically. This is also sometimes accompanied by beeping. Then the overtaking and then the obscene gestures and language mouthed at me. Today's such incident involved a guy tapping the side of his head to indicate that I was behaving like a lunatic for not exceeding the speed limit significantly enough in the fast lane.
What exactly are these people's grievances? Do they have this notion that the "fast lane" is the "lane in which you can break the speed limit"? A person doing 50mph, yes I can understand how that would test a person's patience to such a degree... but the driver in front doing slightly over the limit? What's problematic or inconsiderate about that? Why get pissed off about someone not breaking the law? So many questions...
So who here does it?
And do others experience such intimidating behaviour often?
If you are in the fast lane doing the speed limit and some dickhead starts flashing you to pull over then do it and with a bit of luck they will get caught for speeding. On the other hand you should not be in the fast lane so to speak if there is room on the inner lane.0 -
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I admit I did not know that
So that's why they're flashing me, not the fact that I'm not significantly exceeding the speed limit. Oops.
"On a two-lane motorway, the lane nearest the central median is lane 2... On a two-lane motorway, use this for overtaking only and move back into lane 1 when you have finished. You may also use this lane to accommodate traffic merging from the left."
http://www.drivingschoolireland.com/motorway.html0 -
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I admit I did not know that
This is where a lack of driver education comes in.
The new 3 lane sections of the M50 are pointless. Everyone has just moved one lane to the right. I regularly travel the Tallaght - Palmerstown section without having to leave the left lane to overtake b ecause I have the lane to myself, while rows of cars trundle along in the middle and outside lanes.
Doing the limit (100kmph) I undertake countless cars (I am aware this is wrong) sitting in the middle and outside lanes doing 80-90k . If I was to move out and try overtake I would be weaving in and out of traffic the whole way.
I regularly see people moving to the left lane comign to an exit, realise they arent exiting, then move back into the midlle lane despite the left lane being clear for hundreds of metres in front of them. :rolleyes:0 -
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Had some c*nt tail-gating me for ages yesterday..... It was a two-lane road (1-way), so I sped up til I was beside the car in the other lane. Then I maintained that speed for a while to p*ss the tail-gater off I shoulda just slammed on the brakes
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I admit I did not know that
So that's why they're flashing me, not the fact that I'm not significantly exceeding the speed limit. Oops.
WTF?:eek: How can you not know that? And if you admit to speeding then you can't really complain if others want to speed, not that its a good thing.0 -
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This thread makes me
For those of you who didn't know (which is those who posted and a lot more lurkers I'd say), please take time to learn this and other rules of the road. It's ridiculous that people are legally allowed to get into a car for the first time EVER simply after getting 35/40 questions right as long as they have paid money for insurance/tax/fuel and have a fully licensed driver with them (which could easily be one of the many from the 80's I think who were given full licenses without passing a test). No need for even one driving lesson.
Other points that will help speed up traffic/lower frustration levels:- General rule on roundabouts is stay in left lane for any exit before 12 o clock, and right lane for any exit after. Indicating only once you have passed the exit before the exit you are taking, if taking the first exit, indicate approaching the roundabout, if taking exit after 12, indicate right approaching roundabout. There's more to it, but if you follow the above you'll be ok.
- Don't enter a yellow box unless turning right and it wont obstruct traffic who have the right of way.
- If there is a round green light, you may proceed in any direction if safe to do so, you have the right of way to go straight ahead, but if there is oncoming traffic and you want to turn right for example, you must wait for a safe gap to do so. If there is a green filter light, you have the right of way to proceed in any direction marked if the unlit green light shares the same red light as the lit filter light.
feel free to add more folks 0 - General rule on roundabouts is stay in left lane for any exit before 12 o clock, and right lane for any exit after. Indicating only once you have passed the exit before the exit you are taking, if taking the first exit, indicate approaching the roundabout, if taking exit after 12, indicate right approaching roundabout. There's more to it, but if you follow the above you'll be ok.
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I admit I did not know that
So that's why they're flashing me, not the fact that I'm not significantly exceeding the speed limit. Oops.
Lol insert facepalm here - ___________
If I was behind you on the motorway I'd have been tailgating, blaring the horn, flashing my lights and everything else.0 -
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You just settled an argument for me with the roundabout thing - the OH is wrong! yes!! :PThis thread makes me
For those of you who didn't know (which is those who posted and a lot more lurkers I'd say), please take time to learn this and other rules of the road. It's ridiculous that people are legally allowed to get into a car for the first time EVER simply after getting 35/40 questions right as long as they have paid money for insurance/tax/fuel and have a fully licensed driver with them (which could easily be one of the many from the 80's I think who were given full licenses without passing a test). No need for even one driving lesson.
Other points that will help speed up traffic/lower frustration levels:- General rule on roundabouts is stay in left lane for any exit before 12 o clock, and right lane for any exit after. Indicating only once you have passed the exit before the exit you are taking, if taking the first exit, indicate approaching the roundabout, if taking exit after 12, indicate right approaching roundabout. There's more to it, but if you follow the above you'll be ok.
- Don't enter a yellow box unless turning right and it wont obstruct traffic who have the right of way.
- If there is a round green light, you may proceed in any direction if safe to do so, you have the right of way to go straight ahead, but if there is oncoming traffic and you want to turn right for example, you must wait for a safe gap to do so. If there is a green filter light, you have the right of way to proceed in any direction marked if the unlit green light shares the same red light as the lit filter light.
feel free to add more folks
One thing that I'm never sure about is who has right of way on a crossroads when you are turning right and a car directly opposite you is also turning right?0 - General rule on roundabouts is stay in left lane for any exit before 12 o clock, and right lane for any exit after. Indicating only once you have passed the exit before the exit you are taking, if taking the first exit, indicate approaching the roundabout, if taking exit after 12, indicate right approaching roundabout. There's more to it, but if you follow the above you'll be ok.
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Quazzie2002 wrote: »There is no right turn on Motorways. Are you a driver or just a hobbyist? Because if you're a driver you really should know this stuff
Who said anything about motorways in the scenario I was referring to?
Anyway, there are right turns on motorways "Site Entrance ==>", the end of the m50 going Northbound at the roundabout, if you want to go towards the city, you should be in the right hand lane at the roundabout and there's probably a few more scenarios too. On a dual carriageway, where the same overtaking rule applies, there is plenty of right turns. 0 -
what? there already is one...pickarooney wrote: »"Fast lane", FFS.
It's about time they brought in a driving test in Ireland.
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I don't think that's necessary for the sake of one ruleearlyevening wrote: »OMG. Resit your driving test.
I didn't actually go on a dual carriageway for my test anyway. It was all suburban driving.
Yeah, those I'm more than familiar with...This thread makes me
For those of you who didn't know (which is those who posted and a lot more lurkers I'd say), please take time to learn this and other rules of the road. It's ridiculous that people are legally allowed to get into a car for the first time EVER simply after getting 35/40 questions right as long as they have paid money for insurance/tax/fuel and have a fully licensed driver with them (which could easily be one of the many from the 80's I think who were given full licenses without passing a test). No need for even one driving lesson.
Other points that will help speed up traffic/lower frustration levels:- General rule on roundabouts is stay in left lane for any exit before 12 o clock, and right lane for any exit after. Indicating only once you have passed the exit before the exit you are taking, if taking the first exit, indicate approaching the roundabout, if taking exit after 12, indicate right approaching roundabout. There's more to it, but if you follow the above you'll be ok.
- Don't enter a yellow box unless turning right and it wont obstruct traffic who have the right of way.
- If there is a round green light, you may proceed in any direction if safe to do so, you have the right of way to go straight ahead, but if there is oncoming traffic and you want to turn right for example, you must wait for a safe gap to do so. If there is a green filter light, you have the right of way to proceed in any direction marked if the unlit green light shares the same red light as the lit filter light.
feel free to add more folks
Yeah, driving in to work earlier, I noticed both lanes were choc-a-blocthey're only pointless in light traffic. In heavy traffic they accomodate a miles worth of cars that would be a mile further from their destination if they had to stack up behind people instead of beside them
But yep, these drivers I'm talking about... I've only encountered when it's quiet.
Understood. Light traffic - only use right lane for overtaking. Thanks guys.op, as you've now realised you were in the wrong here. I admit i mostly drive in the overtaking lane but that's because in light traffic i'm mostly overtaking and driving in the left lane would mean weaving in and out. But the important thing is that if someone is coming up behind me i'll move over to the left, let them pass and then pull out again. I know i'm not officially supposed to be in the lane but i don't cause an obstruction doing it
No, dual carriageway.Quazzie2002 wrote: »Isn't the speed limit on Motorways 120kn/h.. whats all this talk of old fashiones miles craic. 60miles is a decent bit below the speed limit OP so quit hogging a lane you shouldn't be in.0 - General rule on roundabouts is stay in left lane for any exit before 12 o clock, and right lane for any exit after. Indicating only once you have passed the exit before the exit you are taking, if taking the first exit, indicate approaching the roundabout, if taking exit after 12, indicate right approaching roundabout. There's more to it, but if you follow the above you'll be ok.
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A few months ago there was a thread about speeding which got rather... heated when people admitted they broke the speed limits. I was one of those who admitted that yes, I have broken the speed limit on an open dual carriageway.
This is the other side of the coin though: regularly when I'm driving at 60mph (the limit) or slightly over it and I'm in the right lane (the supposed "fast lane" which is the correct lane for me) I become aware of a car up my ass and the lights flashing hysterically. This is also sometimes accompanied by beeping. Then the overtaking and then the obscene gestures and language mouthed at me. Today's such incident involved a guy tapping the side of his head to indicate that I was behaving like a lunatic for not exceeding the speed limit significantly enough in the fast lane.
What exactly are these people's grievances? Do they have this notion that the "fast lane" is the "lane in which you can break the speed limit"? A person doing 50mph, yes I can understand how that would test a person's patience to such a degree... but the driver in front doing slightly over the limit? What's problematic or inconsiderate about that? Why get pissed off about someone not breaking the law? So many questions...
So who here does it?
And do others experience such intimidating behaviour often?
I thought this was a troll when i first read it, your knowledge of driving is Atrocious, you should really sit the driving test or get the F*ck off the road, unbelievable. You and your like are the reason i hate driving on DCs in this country.0 -
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Relax, she knows now and can pass on the info to others. Also, more than just her have learned from this thread, so it's for the greater good. If everyone posted a thread like this, this problem would soon be eradicated 0
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It's one thing - my driving record is super-clean otherwiseyour knowledge of driving is Atrocious, you should really sit the driving test or get the F*ck off the road, unbelievable. You and your like are the reason i hate driving on DCs in this country.
Full licence, no-claims bonus for years, low insurance. Of course I should have known this rule but not knowing it doesn't make my overall knowledge of driving atrocious. As I said, I didn't actually do my test on a dual carriageway.0 -
It's one thing - my driving record is super-clean otherwise. As I said, I didn't actually do my test on a dual carriageway.
You probably didn't do your test in the dark, in the snow, on a steep mountain... that doesn't excuse not knowing basic rules of the road such as how to behave in all conditions. But how and ever, all's good, there'll be two fewer impatient drivers on the road as of today 0 -
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