is wow in trouble?

copeyhagen

as the title says, there seems to be much more hype and anticipation with the forthcoming release of warhammer : age of reckoning than when aoc came out.

i havent played wow in about 3 weeks and couldnt be arsed playin again till wotlk comes out.

tbh im more excited about trying out WAR than i am about wotlk at the moment.

seems a lot of the wow forum users have been posting in the warhammer forum, the big question is, is world of warcraft fooked?!

Ivan

The short answer is no.

The long answer, starts with another question; how exactly do you quantify "fooked"?

Kiith

Nothing is going to take Warcraft off its throne for a few years yet, at which time they'll bring out a sequel. People will keep leaving until WotLK comes out, then everyone who has played the game will come back, and be as addicted as before. Its also got the benefit of a more "cartoony" graphics engine, which doesnt show its age like other, more reasistic engines would.

nix

tbh in my eyes AoC got more hype than warhammer =/

Not The Real Scarecrow

Same as the thread starter , I haven't played in about a month and doubt if I will go back , even with the new expansion.Doubt it will be in trouble though, from what I saw when playing it has an extremely loyal following.Just not my cup of tea any more.

ZorbaTehZ

nix wrote: »

tbh in my eyes AoC got more hype than warhammer =/

+1

WotLK is going to be awesome. Ill still probably buy war when it's out retail (like I did with aoc ) but I'd be beyond surprised if it managed to get to the stage where people were saying WoW is fooked.

Ass

We all know that WolfQuest. is the real WoW killer.

Kiith

Well, actually, the next big thing in MMO's in http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/

smellslikeshoes

After what I would consider the complete and utter failure of AOC even after the amount of hype it had I wouldn't be too worried about War knocking Wow off its throne anytime soon.

KilOit

WAR has being getting some positive reviews from good wow players not those wow hate mockering crew that dis WoW on every opportunity they get like the ones saying Aoc was 10 times better than WoW then it falls straight on it's face, But to the question it's in no way gonna kill wow, I think WAR will have a decent following without hurting WoW to much

toxick

what blizzard is doing at the moment, is quite smart. They are pre-patching the new pre-wotlk patch soon.. ie just around were WAR will be relised.. so that will drag a few players back, to try out the new talents, level up inscription.. and mess around.

But with the new beta notes, were they have nerfed mostly all the classes, and put some stoppers to raiding(ie 1 pot per boss fight, downraking gone ect) a lot of people are annoyed at it.

I say blizzard have planned on what exactly they are gonna relise and when, to try and maximise the amount of players to get back from WAR.

WAR will have a nice following, and will take some wow players permantly, if it stays up and becomes a succes.. however it will never kill WoW..

WoW has roughly 12 million subscirbes so the game wont die for another long time.. and if WAR does hold a big threat, Blizzards next gen mmo will more then likely shoot them out of the water.

Also a lot of die-hard PvE wow players, will more then likely stick to WoW as WAR is a full blown PvP game..

the next month or so will be very intresting, to watch how blizzard and myhtic play things.

my 2c

Schism

Kiith wrote: »

Nothing is going to take Warcraft off its throne for a few years yet, at which time they'll bring out a sequel. People will keep leaving until WotLK comes out, then everyone who has played the game will come back, and be as addicted as before. Its also got the benefit of a more "cartoony" graphics engine, which doesnt show its age like other, more reasistic engines would.

Not to divert from the topic too much but do you think a sequel to WoW is viable? Where could they go with a sequel that they couldn't go with an expansion, graphics engine aside.

toxick

Schism wrote: »

Not to divert from the topic too much but do you think a sequel to WoW is viable? Where could they go with a sequel that they couldn't go with an expansion, graphics engine aside.

i doubt they will bring out a sequel. Blizzard are currently working on a next gen mmo, which is currently very secertive. i say that will be out in last quater of 09 or 2010 sometime.

nix

toxick wrote: »

i doubt they will bring out a sequel. Blizzard are currently working on a next gen mmo, which is currently very secertive. i say that will be out in last quater of 09 or 2010 sometime.

fingers crossed for WoD or WoS

toxick

i doubt they will be called World Of...

Starcraft universe has been mentioned a few times, and when i was at the worldwide invitional.. they did say Starcraft universe.. but that could of just been teasing us :P:)

Nehaxak

Blizz also announced PVE to PVP transfers today, so another nice marketing trick really.
Can't see Wow ending anytime soon to anything but another game from Blizzard.

mayordenis

AoC 100% got more hype and there was way more expectance that it would dethrone WoW.
Not a ****ing chance WAR will. if anything WAR is ****ed won't even compete in the long term against LOTRO

toxick

WAR has a way more fan base then AoC.. The brand name is massive, which already gets a hell of a lot of players intrested in t. By the makers of Dark Age of Camelot, so pretty most their fan bse will be playing it, as it seems like a replica of DAoC just with a massive upgrade.

WoW pvpers will try out WAR to see the RvR system, as wow was always spose to be a PvE game.. WAR is a PvP game.. so a few will move and try it out.

yes AoC was hyped a good lot, but warhammer already had the player base behind it, had the brand name behind it, etc etc..

If they have a good launch QAR can outpass LOTRO no problem, since LOTRO dont even have 500k subscriptions even.

][cEMAN**

I think blizzard should stop trying to compete with it. If they compete, you'll get those who will go to WAR just to try it out, and ignore the WotLK expansion. Then they'll come back anyway, but the impact of the initial release of WotKL won't be as pronounced.

If they simply wait till people get tired of the new thing, then put it out, I think it would get a bigger response. But then maybe that's the idea. The last expansion slowed EVERYTHING down and crashed a couple of servers. The login times were crazy as well (iirc). Maybe this is a way of them weeding out the die hard players and letting them get playing, then have everyone else come back when they get bored of War, and the new areas won't be so packed.

The new island was a perfect example of what happens when everyone packs into a new tight spot...

Gummy Panda

WOW won't be touched by WAR. WOW's biggest strength is its PVE, while WAR's is pvp. There endgames match those strengths.

Tbh, i play on raiding in wow and pvping in war.

String

War wont have as near as many players as wow. Im hoping war will have about 500,000 at least to keep the community in europe going but I think Warhammer will be good for mmos. It means more competition and so more new stuff and more dedication from the developers. I will be trying out wotlk but if i find it repetitive end game i wont be playing it until next expansion or wow 2 or whatever. And I know it will be the same old stuff.

squarei

After 3 years of WoW I rerolled to WAR last week and I've already quit my WoW subscription. WoW is so ugly graphically, boringly easy in PvE and based purely on setups and luck in PvP.

inb4 fanboys qqing that WoW is good somehow

Woden

"Additional grass areas have been added to the enemy faction's zones. This grass is exceptionally green." :rolleyes:

Its a good thing WAR came along so you could stop playing that **** game and cancel your subscription. God only knows how many more years you would have wasted doing something you didn't enjoy!

Varkov

Kiith wrote: »

Well, actually, the next big thing in MMO's in http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/

Don't forget the tie-in MMOFPS co developed with Bungie.

Zarbon

WoW won't die anytime soon. There are far too many fanboys, who alone could keep it going for years. Best of luck to Warhammer though. Blizzard deserve a nice kick in the teeth.

mayordenis

Zarbon wrote: »

WoW won't die anytime soon. There are far too many fanboys, who alone could keep it going for years. Best of luck to Warhammer though. Blizzard deserve a nice kick in the teeth.

tell me one thing - just 1 thing blizzard have done wrong?

they make the games - you don't have to play them - this kick in the teeth stuff is nonsense

JackieChan

mayordenis wrote: »

tell me one thing - just 1 thing blizzard have done wrong?

they make the games - you don't have to play them - this kick in the teeth stuff is nonsense

+1

They even provide a few jobs down in Cork!

Varkov

Blizzard wouldn't give me any gold for a mount :mad: fucers

Funky

I don't think there's such thing as a WoW killer, it's too big to be killed by anything. But I'm pretty sure WAR will take a slice of their subscribers.

After all, for those PvP oriented you have more to do from lvl 1 than you do at 70 in WoW....

KilOit

Well hopefully WAR will take all the whiny pvp kiddies away from WoW so it's no skin off my nose i play WoW for the pve

Nehaxak

KilOit wrote: »

Well hopefully WAR will take all the whiny pvp kiddies away from WoW so it's no skin off my nose i play WoW for the pve

Funny that, always found players who enjoyed pvp (world and BG - arena is not pvp and I will admit that a lot of "kiddies" play fishbowl arena) to be more mature than those who play wow for the PVE only aspects.

I find PVE aspect of wow to be unskilled, repetative, boring, lazy and may as well be playing a single player game in a linear scripted environment.

Go setup a private server yourself and waltz through all the content there is to go through, get all the gear you want and then really come to realise that the fun to be had and the continued ability to stay playing a game for most people will be from the pvp aspects or more importantly from the actual real player interaction and not from linear computer generated and controlled NPC's et all.

Most people who dislike pvp are generally unskilled players (which is fine, no probs with that at all) who just can't cope with having to need skill to play a game and would rather just push buttons and get welfare pve gear with little of no effort involved on their part.

Games like PlanetSide (pure player versus player) still have a following after all these years while games like EQ2 which is technically miles ahead of Wow, failed miserably because barely anyone is playing it and there's feck all if any PVP content to do at all in it.