Thinking of moving to america soon what do i need?

skaterdude

Im hoping to one day move to america
what do i need to be able to live over there?
degree? could i live over there with a cert?
im hoping to just move over there and get a job, and maybe live there forever and ever

Heisenberg.

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Enii

You need a visa to move to the States.

Agent Smith

you need a Green card Gringo!

skaterdude

how do i get this green card and visa?

Climate Expert

You don't.
Chances of getting either are probably less than 1%.

Random

If they don't let you in with the Junior cert results ( ) try this website for more info - http://dublin.usembassy.gov/general.html

Unfortunitly (or fortunitly??) it's not just as easy as deciding to live there and moving over.

MIN2511

What education do you have?
What industry are you in?


Most companies have operations in the US and you can discuss the possibilities of moving with your line..

skaterdude

err no chance of that im a bartender lol
but id love to go live over there one day
whats the best way of going over and living there?

KINGPIN

there is a lotto 50,000 cards given out each year but odds of geting one are slim.

best chance is to get an employer before you go over i.e your a bartender so best bet is get someone in a irish bar to say that your needed to work there.

its like in ireland chinese restaurants get visas for their employee`s cause there needed here for work.

other option is to have a degree etc.. you have to show basically you`ll be an asset to the county.

WooPeeA

You will need lots of patience if republicans gained power again..

skaterdude

KINGPIN wrote: »

there is a lotto 50,000 cards given out each year but odds of geting one are slim.

best chance is to get an employer before you go over i.e your a bartender so best bet is get someone in a irish bar to say that your needed to work there.

its like in ireland chinese restaurants get visas for their employee`s cause there needed here for work.

other option is to have a degree etc.. you have to show basically you`ll be an asset to the county.

thanks youve been really helpfull
but how do i get a job over there in the first place while im on holidays or what?
so im guessing hve a few certs from courses dont mean much?
how do i go about applying for these green cards?

DublinWriter

You can get a H1B visa if you have an employer willing to offer you a job. This costs your prospective employer thousands to file, and is usually only offered for highly-skilled persons.

You can apply for the 50,000 visas given out under the Morrison Visa Lottery programme. You can apply more than once to increase your chances.

You can marry a yank.

Otherwise, you ain't working/living in the States.

Heisenberg.

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Danbo!

KINGPIN wrote: »

best chance is to get an employer before you go over i.e your a bartender so best bet is get someone in a irish bar to say that your needed to work there.

This is unlikely in a bar because its not a case of "I need this guy in my pub" but rather "this is the only guy for the job, and an there is no american able to do so"

Gone West

Why would anyone choose to live in the USA??

damnyanks

To get away from people like you

If you study a college degree then there are all sorts of loopholes opened to you like in most countries. I know a guy who studied part time so could stay in the country legally for 3 years (He was doing a msc)

Climate Expert

damnyanks wrote: »

To get away from people like you

If you study a college degree then there are all sorts of loopholes opened to you like in most countries. I know a guy who studied part time so could stay in the country legally for 3 years (He was doing a msc)

The fact is if you want to live their long term your chances are extremly slim. I thought about this a lot myself and I would say your best bet is to either marry an american girl or go join the thousands of other Irish illegals.
You are not going to get a H1 visa as a bar attendant, these are given out to research scientists and engineers. You could just try for the green card lottery every year for 10 years as well.

nikki 122

Climate Expert wrote: »

You don't.
Chances of getting either are probably less than 1%.

i'm not entirely sure that is true it is extremly difficult to get a green card but it is possible my cousin got a visa for a year and loved living there so she applied for the green card over there it took a few years to process and i suppose that it was helpful that she had her baby over there aswell, i,m just saying its not impossible so don't give up hope.

Nody

Well it is not only that you need to get the green card, you also has to visit at least once a year (or lose it), you have to show that you can live there on your own and not live on the state aid etc. Hence there are quite a few more loops to jump through before you're in.

AARRRGH

There are so many Americans who want to come work in Europe.

Find one and marry one.

MIN2511

I have just noticed a few people suggesting "marrying a yank" if a non EU had this same dream ye would say feck off.....

double standards!

AARRRGH

MIN2511 wrote: »

I have just noticed a few people suggesting "marrying a yank" if a non EU had this same dream ye would say feck off.....

double standards!

I guess it's because we feel we're getting a good (or at least, a fair) deal out of it.

I'm not sure too many Irish people want to move to a poorer country!

Larianne

To get into America you need (in the majority of cases) a degree in a specific area that is in demand over there. Nurses are needed greatly there so they don't have much of a problem getting in. the H1-B would be the visa - high skilled visa.

Another way is to get transferred over through a company. This is the L1 visa.

You can try the Green Card lottery but the number of visas given to each country is capped. I think only over 160 visas were given out for 2010. But you're in luck as entries for 2011 (I think) starts soon. http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/

I still think they pick and choose who they want. So if you don't have a degree I don't think you'll have a chance. (Although I could be wrong).

I wouldn't advise doing anything illegal.

MIN2511

AARRRGH wrote: »

I guess it's because we feel we're getting a good (or at least, a fair) deal out of it.

I'm not sure too many Irish people want to move to a poorer country!

Getting a good/fair deal out of him moving to the states
It's not about moving to a poorer country....

The OP want to move to the states to better his life... He has no education and what can he contribute to the society??????????

Climate Expert

MIN2511 wrote: »

Getting a good/fair deal out of him moving to the states
It's not about moving to a poorer country....

The OP want to move to the states to better his life... He has no education and what can he contribute to the society??????????

He'd be joining a legacy of similar Irish people who have since done great things over there.

WooPeeA

The Scientist wrote: »

Slightly off topic but I heard a McCain victory would be very good news for the Irish.
Any truth to this?
(albeit, i did hear this from one our our all knowing taxi drivers)

Well, I think it depend. McCain is very Bush type. Same point of view, same language.. McCain wants to exclude Russia from G7, and block membership of China. Plus many other controversial decisions. Wants to make NATO stronger.

Obama is more like Clinton, peaceful, quiet, wants stronger co-operation with Russia and be friends with Europe. He also wants to remove troops from Iraq which might be catastrophic for today.

Depend on your points of view.

AARRRGH

MIN2511 wrote: »

Getting a good/fair deal out of him moving to the states
It's not about moving to a poorer country....

The OP want to move to the states to better his life... He has no education and what can he contribute to the society??????????

Sorry - I misread you. Are you saying we have problems with uneducated/whatever non-EU people coming here, but we think it's ok for an uneducated/whatever Irish person to move somewhere else?

MIN2511

AARRRGH wrote: »

Sorry - I misread you. Are you saying we have problems with uneducated/whatever non-EU people coming here, but we think it's ok for an uneducated/whatever Irish person to move somewhere else?

Exactly!

My point being, he's a low skilled worker who may end up in the states working illegal and some of the replies are suggesting he marry etc for status!

AARRRGH

MIN2511 wrote: »

Exactly!

My point being, he's a low skilled worker who may end up in the states working illegal and some of the replies are suggesting he marry etc for status!

Yep, absolutely it is a double standard.

I guess the thinking is "he's Irish" so we can relate, and also Irish people have a history and "special relationship" with America.

Larianne

It's not worth having to look over your shoulder all the time, remembering your story when going into banks or looking for a job etc. (I have done it myself) People are paid by the government to inform on illegal immigrants in America.

Also, if you make a life for yourself over there illegally you can't just jump on a plane home if your parents are sick or someone gets married.

gixerfixer

skaterdude wrote: »

err no chance of that im a bartender lol
but id love to go live over there one day
whats the best way of going over and living there?

I went over to NY in 1997 with no experience of bartending and got a job within 4 days as one. Spent 6 great years there and dont worry about the visa lad,once your Irish in any of the big citys there is **** all chance of you getting chucked out. Only thing is forget about coming back to visit the family and friends every year (they WILL catch you out at the airport),but once that doesnt bother you it's a great life and great money. Get the right bar and you could make 1000-1500 dollars a week cash into hand no problems.(Well in Manhattan anyways). My friend worked in a lockdown bar (open after 4am till 8 or 9am) and not joking but he pulled down 1200 dollars cash some nights when the local bartenders and waitress crowd came in after there shifts where over.Place also was crawling with cops and firefighters who would turn a blind eye as the bar was owned by an ex-cop. All in all working as a bartender there and here just dont compare.

<modsnip>GS: He didn't ask how to get around immigration policy</modsnip>

eth0_

Fuzzylogic - don't troll on this forum again or you could be banned.

Damnyanks - don't raise to the bait.

daveirl

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eth0_

Stop dragging this thread off topic with talk of the presidential elections - it is completely irrelevent.

the beerhunter

impregnate an american, get junior a passport, then you can get a visa pretty quick as a close family member.

skaterdude

I have a few bar certs from college do they not count for anything?
i would love to move over there but i dont see it happening from what im hearing

Raskolnikov

skaterdude wrote: »

I have a few bar certs from college do they not count for anything?
i would love to move over there but i dont see it happening from what im hearing

You only have two realistic chances.

Apply for the green card lottery or go over illegally. You have nothing to lose by applying for the green card lottery.

Would you not consider Australia?

Fighting Irish

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

Why would anyone choose to live in the USA??

Exact same could be said for Ireland

Agent Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QS7wWzwak4

skaterdude

Is it true if you live in america illigaly for 4 years that you can stay through some loophole or something?

Random

skaterdude wrote: »

Is it true if you live in america illigaly for 4 years that you can stay through some loophole or something?

No.

estebancambias

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Exact same could be said for Ireland

:rolleyes:

Can't see it myself fuzzylogic, but you know the grass is always greener.

Don't get me wrong I like the USA as a country but wouldn't like to live there and I am a citizen of the USA. I lived there long enough as a kid.

I just like spending some months of the summer there really.

Modwyer

Looking for some infomation on Green cards etc

Myself and my husband are looking to move to the states in the next 2 years.
We both did 1 year in college but dont have a degree.
My husband is an Audio Visual Engineer and runs his own business.
We are going to apply for a green card but our chances of getting one are slim.
I have 2 sisters who have been living in America for 15 years and are American citizens.
We have 2 children and think that we would have a better quality of life in the states. ( im also sick of the climate here !!! )

Is there anything that may increase your chances of getting a Green Card ( ie financial Security ) or relatives in the u.s ???

Has anyone applied for a green card and what do they require ???
Does anyone have any info???

Thanks

Nody

Green card is lotto to get in to make the application and you can not influence it directly (but you CAN apply once for yourself and once for your husband). By winning the green card lotto you're NOT guaranteed to get an actual visa as you have only won the right to start the process and then having relatives there can help.

Tom Dunne

Modwyer wrote: »

Is there anything that may increase your chances of getting a Green Card ( ie financial Security ) or relatives in the u.s ???

That's like asking if there is anything you can do to increase your chances of winning the Lotto.

It's just that - a lottery. You might win a Green Card and you might not. There is nothing you can do to influence your chances of getting one.

You can't just "move the the US", so I wouldn't go making plans just yet.

dade

what about that new 1 year visa i heard about or does it only apply to students? maybe the OP could go over on that and look to get his status changed once there

Nody

dade wrote: »

what about that new 1 year visa i heard about or does it only apply to students? maybe the OP could go over on that and look to get his status changed once there

That one will not allow them to go permanent once there, they would still need to win the lotto for a green card. The new 1 year visa is just that, a 1 year visa to get people to come to the US, work while in their peak and then send them back home when no longer needed.

Modwyer

Thanks for reply Nody !!!!!
Much appreciated .

modwyer

MisterAnarchy

Tom Dunne wrote: »

It's just that - a lottery. You might win a Green Card and you might not. There is nothing you can do to influence your chances of getting one.

Between you and me,it isnt just a lottery.
They do filter the applicants and weight certain criteria.
Do you really think it takes 5 months just to announce the results of a lottery ?;)

AARRRGH

Modwyer wrote: »

Looking for some infomation on Green cards etc

Myself and my husband are looking to move to the states in the next 2 years.
We both did 1 year in college but dont have a degree.
My husband is an Audio Visual Engineer and runs his own business.
We are going to apply for a green card but our chances of getting one are slim.
I have 2 sisters who have been living in America for 15 years and are American citizens.
We have 2 children and think that we would have a better quality of life in the states. ( im also sick of the climate here !!! )

Is there anything that may increase your chances of getting a Green Card ( ie financial Security ) or relatives in the u.s ???

Has anyone applied for a green card and what do they require ???
Does anyone have any info???

Thanks

If you are under 35 you might be able to get a visa for Canada. It's a better country, and the US is just down the road.