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Savage attack on catherine/thomas street

  • 09-09-2008 6:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭


    A friend of my girlfriends was rather sa\vagely mugged on the corner by carltion coffee last night (monday).
    She and two firends were walking home from costellos (first night back at art college) when a carload of tracksuit wearing girls pulled alongside and one of the occupants asked for a light, she said she didnt and walked on, they kerb crawled after her and asked again. She looked in her bag to see if she had a light the girl in the car grabbed it, and her hair. the driver took off and she was dragged from the corner by carlton coffee up to eats of eden before they let go.
    Her legs are pretty rashed up and she has stitches in her chin as well as bruises to her head. Apparently these girls are "known to the gardai".

    This was four girls cruising looking for art students to rob obviously not giving a **** about consequences as they did this in front of witnesses in a part of town full of cctv cameras. I said i'd post this as a warning especially as the colleges are just starting back. Just because they're girls doesnt mean they're not scumbags


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    echomadman wrote: »
    Apparently these girls are "known to the gardai".
    Unfortunately the guards in Limerick are about as effective as an ashtray on a motorbike. I wouldn't hold out much hope for these scumbags being brought up for it. The Catherine St area is a pretty dangerous area to be in late at night and i would not advise anyone to walk up it alone, i'm talking from experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭RINO87


    grenache wrote: »
    The Catherine St area is a pretty dangerous area to be in late at night and i would not advise anyone to walk up it alone, i'm talking from experience.

    where is'nt?, its ****in bull****, some of my friends were robbed after costelloes last thursday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭BarryCreed


    A few months back, I was asked for a light by a girl and a few lads in car (citroen xara) up by taits clock. Then they asked could they use my phone as they had "no credit". I was with a lad, and I said no, then the lads started saying "don't be getting f**kin cheeky boss or I'll bust your head". They drove away anyways.. They were travellers. Not saying it was the same crowd, but if someone does ask you, just walk on. I think it's good in general to remember to have your wits about you, and have a good look ahead down the street and check behind you while walking. Be prepared to run if you have to. I know that could be hard after a feed of booze...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Car?

    License Plate?

    CCTV?

    Known to the Gardaí?

    - Sorry, wouldn't say there's any chance of justice being served here......

    Pity it didn't happen in the lobby of Henry St. Garda Station at 3pm on a Mon. evening - they might have gotten a very serious caution then :mad:

    Limerick Gardaí are piloting an interesting and unique crime avoidance scheme for the past number of decades. Its a kind of live and let live system where they cash their pay cheques from our taxes and the scum of Limerick cash the dole cheques from our taxes - while all the while one group terrorise the people who pay those same taxes and the the other casually pretends not to notice......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Builderfromhell


    That's a little cynical there Raiser.

    Look at it from the Gardai point of view for a minute. They only need to foot patrol the City any w/end night and sooner or later they'll come across some people up to no good. They arrest them, take them to station, do a load of paperwork, spend time in court, people get told not to do it again by Judge, everyone laughing at Gardai.
    Surely there must be an unwritten policy of not going after everyone on the street. Otherwise the system would grind to a halt.
    I don't have a solution but when I was a kid the local Gardai would whack you a few times and that was it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭BarryCreed


    That's a little cynical there Raiser.

    ..but when I was a kid the local Gardai would whack you a few times and that was it.

    unfortunately, like school teachers, they can't whack anyone anymore, which is a shame..fight fire with fire...

    If there was the fear of hard labour, or the electric chair, or deportation to Van Diemens land :eek: I wonder what the crime rate would be like..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    Raiser wrote: »
    Car?
    where they cash their pay cheques from our taxes and the scum of Limerick cash the dole cheques from our taxes - while all the while

    Speaking of the Dole and the dole office....I hear when the doors opened yesterday some girl
    was knocked to the ground and trampled on by the crowd rushing to sign and feck off again. An Ambulance needed to be called for her.

    With regards to the Gardai. I've seen less of them about on patrol since these
    CCTV cameras have been installed. There is no visual deterrent or a visual prescience
    of the Gardai on our streets. I dont understand why they cant have more patrols out there.
    especially when night clubs end or at weekends etc when its busier.

    Middle of the day I have seem scumbags kick the head off of each other
    in front of crowds of onlookers in William street, They dont care whos looking,
    or if they get arrested or if they are on CCTV. Crazy!


    With regards to Gardai on the street. How many Garda members would people think
    would be enough to patrol the city center effectively? I dont think it would take that
    many.

    A Team of 2 Garda members at the top of Catherine street could patrol the entire street.
    Its a long straight street where you can see a good long way into the distance.

    maybe 4-6 to do the length of O'Connell Street,

    4 more to patrol around the Market Areas, Another 4 to patrol around the docks
    and riverside area.

    Thats not a lot of man power!

    Id love to see more of the Cycle Cops! Very effective for patrolling in my opinion.
    ~B


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Raiser wrote: »
    Car?

    License Plate?

    CCTV?

    Known to the Gardaí?

    - Sorry, wouldn't say there's any chance of justice being served here......

    Pity it didn't happen in the lobby of Henry St. Garda Station at 3pm on a Mon. morning - they might have gotten a very serious caution then :mad:

    Limerick Gardaí are piloting a new and unique crime avoidance scheme for the past number of decades. Its a kind of live and let live system where they cash their pay cheques from our taxes and the scum of Limerick cash the dole cheques from our taxes - while all the while one group terrorise the people who pay those same taxes and the the other casually pretends not to notice......

    I know you're trying to vent feelings on a pretty serious problem, but quite honestly you sound paranoid. The Gardaí Síochchána are not involved in a massive conspiracy against the good honest folk of Limerick City. That accusation just sounds ridiculous.

    It's a problem that stems from resources being focused on the much more far-reaching problem of organised crime in the cities of Ireland. Most man-power is going into the anti-drug and anti-weaponry importation operations, as well as dealing with the pre-existing feuds.

    I appreciate that this can cause problems for the little guy (i.e. you, me and any other person out for the craic at night) but that's something that every major population centre has to deal with. Petty crime such as robbery and minor* assault are commonplace and always have been. It has nothing to do with you paying your taxes.

    *I use the term minor loosely, unprovoked violent attacks are deplorable no matter what the severity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    try any of that ****e in N.Y.C. and see what happenes, 2 cops on every corner, ans they dont take any of this


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    old boy wrote: »
    try any of that ****e in N.Y.C. and see what happenes, 2 cops on every corner, ans they dont take any of this

    Number of Gardaí killed nationwide between 1922 and 1999: 31
    Number of NYPD killed in New York between 1806 and 2007: 758

    Average per year = 0.4
    Average per year = 3.7

    Even taking away the 23 killed in 9/11, there's a pretty obvious difference: the criminals there don't take any shit either.

    edit/ wiki puts the population of NYC at roughly 8.5 million, Ireland as a whole at 4.5 million.


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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I think there may be a few more people in New York, so not sure how your figures help. (People get attacked most weekends in most town in Ireland I would imagine). Just because your friend got attacked doesn't mean everyone should avoid the area.

    Saying that you should always be aware of your surroundings, and quite often late at night some people are a bit worse for wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    An Fhile wrote: »
    I know you're trying to vent feelings on a pretty serious problem, but quite honestly you sound paranoid. The Gardaí Síochchána are not involved in a massive conspiracy against the good honest folk of Limerick City. That accusation just sounds ridiculous.
    <SNIP>

    My earlier post was admittedly packaged for impact, but in all fairness it was then misrepresented and misconstrued by your odd interpretation.

    When it comes down to brass tacks though, there is a widespread and generally held perception that the Gardaí are not fulfilling one of their key duties of care to the public at large on the streets of our Towns and Cities. Limerick is a salient example - and I've witnessed it first hand many times from Assault to Ambulance to Emergency room.

    - Please note the absence of Statements, Arrest and Conviction here - you'd be more likely to witness a Unicorn on a Pogo stick.....

    Let the Chefs cook, the Bakers bake, the Mechanics fix cars & the Gardaí uphold the law and defend our Citizens..... If they cannot abide by the fundamental principles and duties of their job then they should stop accepting a Garda wage and just become a Steeplejack or some other bloody thing.....


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Sorry Raiser, I obviously took your post the wrong way.

    My concern is that the problem of petty street crime is not confined strictly to the city centre. Gangs of children and teenagers are collecting around the suburbs and city housing estates causing just as much trouble as the older, more aggresive perpetrators of these late-night attacks.
    A garda from Mayorstone visited my house last year (I had applied for the Age Card and forgotten to supply an important detail on the form, so he had come to clear that up.) He stayed for about ten minutes chatting with myself and my parents, and I was surprised to learn that my own estate had been categorised as a priority area. The numbers of complaints from local residents has sky-rocketed. Extra man-power is being demanded in places where serious crime is not yet a problem, but the level of (hideously labelled, in my opinion) anti-social behaviour is massively increasing.
    The Gardaí are working for their wages. The problem is that they're being made to do the disciplinary duties that parents are failing to do. My own peers set a bad example for successive generations of their younger neighbours. These kids are taking boldness to new and worrying levels as they grow older, and it's my opinion that their parents don't care. As such, police presence is being felt more and more in my immediate locality, rather than outside nightclubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    it's all psychological i'd say. a bit over a year ago we got attacked by some scumbags at the treaty stone on an early sunday afternoon (broad daylight). we were walking there and out of the blue glass bottles were thrown after us. since then i've been never again on clancy's strand.

    it might sound a bit bit silly maybe...


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    On a related story...
    Friday 12 September 2008 07:40

    Limerick youth attacks students

    An 18 year old man is due in court in Limerick later this morning charged in connection with robbing three students at knifepoint in the city centre overnight.

    The teen accosted the students on Roches Street around 2.20am and threatened to stab them if they did not hand over their valuables.

    Gardai patrolling the area came across the incident and the youth was arrested and taken to Henry Street Garda station where he was detained under Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act.
    He had three mobile phones, a sum of cash and a wallet belonging to one of the students on his person when he was arrested.

    Gardai say he will be charged with certain offences relating to the incident at Limerick District Court later this morning while a file will be sent to the DPP in relation to other offences.

    So it seems the police are around the odd time at least. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    MarkR wrote: »
    So it seems the police are around the odd time at least. ;)

    Some good news although I wont hold my breath with regards to the
    sentence he will receive.

    (Apologies for being Cynical)
    Oh Judge I've got 15 Kids to feed, a Pregnant girlfriend I'm addicted to drugs
    and I was only trying to feed my habit...and I cant get a job.

    OK ...heres a suspended sentence of 3 months. Your free to go.
    Dont do it again. Goodbye......Next!!!!

    ~B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Time to give the cops a break I think in fairness. This was good work by them.

    Take up yeer grievances with the judiciary.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    2008-02--17.jpg

    :P

    Sorry, couldn't let that one go!

    It's great to hear that story MarkR posted. It's just a shame that Bullets' satirical reply is actually a pretty close take on the reality of sentencing in this country at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭pucan


    Raiser wrote: »
    Limerick Gardaí are piloting an interesting and unique crime avoidance scheme for the past number of decades. Its a kind of live and let live system where they cash their pay cheques from our taxes and the scum of Limerick cash the dole cheques from our taxes - while all the while one group terrorise the people who pay those same taxes and the the other casually pretends not to notice......
    Raiser wrote: »
    - Please note the absence of Statements, Arrest and Conviction here - you'd be more likely to witness a Unicorn on a Pogo stick.....

    Perhaps you should spend a number of hours in the public gallery of the circuit court to see the numbers of scumbags being released on probation or
    with slaps on the wrist.
    The judicary and lack of prison space are the problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭utick


    Raiser wrote: »
    Car?

    License Plate?

    CCTV?

    Known to the Gardaí?

    - Sorry, wouldn't say there's any chance of justice being served here......

    Pity it didn't happen in the lobby of Henry St. Garda Station at 3pm on a Mon. evening - they might have gotten a very serious caution then :mad:

    Limerick Gardaí are piloting an interesting and unique crime avoidance scheme for the past number of decades. Its a kind of live and let live system where they cash their pay cheques from our taxes and the scum of Limerick cash the dole cheques from our taxes - while all the while one group terrorise the people who pay those same taxes and the the other casually pretends not to notice......

    in fairness now that is a bit harsh, they did manage to catch a 12 year old girl last night in a stolen van after she drove outside the station without lights and started beeping. http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Limerick-12yearold-girl-alleged-to.4495561.jp


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Dunno if this was reported anywhere but on my way home last driving down henry st I saw what i thought were 2 guys having a scrap just up past the traffic lights where you turn right to go down Henry St and straight on to go to Jurys Inn, it was only when i looked again in my rearview mirror at the next set of lights i saw it was a guy giving a young girl an absolute kicking, I mean really laying into her while she was lying on the ground, i drove around that way again while trying to dial henry st station to see if anyone had stepped in and she'd obviously legged it to henry st herself as 4 or 5 guards were talking to them both outside, seems getting attacked right outside a garda station guarantees a quick response, lets hope the cops gave him a kicking as well what a disgusting thing to do to a woman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    utick wrote: »
    in fairness now that is a bit harsh, they did manage to catch a 12 year old girl last night in a stolen van after she drove outside the station without lights and started beeping. http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Limerick-12yearold-girl-alleged-to.4495561.jp

    *pictured in my mind........*



    Gard: "Is this yor vee-hicle?"

    Girl: "Fook yoo gardee!" *meep..meeeeeeep*

    Gard: "Well, oyl let ye off this time young lady, but make sure ye turn dem loights on"

    Girl: "CHASE ME YOO GOWEL!" *meeeeeeeeeeep*

    Gard: *chuckles* "Now arent you a noisy young wan, run along home now"

    Girl: "I SAYED FOOKIN CHAYUS ME" *meeeeep meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

    Gard: *goes back inside*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭roakey


    That's a little cynical there Raiser.

    Look at it from the Gardai point of view for a minute. They only need to foot patrol the City any w/end night and sooner or later they'll come across some people up to no good. They arrest them, take them to station, do a load of paperwork, spend time in court, people get told not to do it again by Judge, everyone laughing at Gardai.
    Surely there must be an unwritten policy of not going after everyone on the street. Otherwise the system would grind to a halt.
    I don't have a solution but when I was a kid the local Gardai would whack you a few times and that was it.

    in all fairness that is their job, paperwork on no paperwork. whether they are laughed at or not, they are meant to protect the people of this city, not watch and wait til it is over then offer asistance.

    the cops in this town are a disgrace, they would rather arrest someone innocent for something stupid than actually help someone in distress


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Builderfromhell


    Sun came out today, may be reason for checkpoint on Croom road. Must have been about 8 Gardai there with technical equip. for weighing trucks. Takes great discipline not to ask them why they don't make the same efforts at curbing crime in City and county.
    Modern technology can be used to catch people without tax and insurance.

    Moderators; it might be worth starting a Limerick crime topic, to which people can add comments as events occur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Xennon


    I agree completely with you,

    /Rant
    we need some means to voice the opinions of people who wish to be heard. There's no point in talking to councilors, politicians, gardai etc, it seems to be in vain.

    Limerick has had a crime problem for a very very long time, yet as the years pass, more and more people complain about the establishment not doing anything about it, but it all seems to fall on deaf ears.

    What exactly will it take before something is done about these people who seem to ignore any form of law? How many people exactly will have to get knifed/shot/mugged, dragged by the hair up a street?

    The gardai are cuffed with their own system of 'law'. They know exactly whats going on and who's behind it, but woe betide the garda that mistreats one of our upstanding criminals while they're being chauffeur driven to their holiday home on Mulgrave Street.

    What exactly happened to the 'pay for your crime' philosophy? Today these people are sent to "prison" where we feed, cloth, and keep them warm. We give them TVs (in case they miss the late late), We allow them mobile phones and budgies. Here they spend time chatting, getting to know more 'lads'. some might say they are on a networking retreat.

    Why aren't they out working, cleaning streets or some such constructive work? Prisoners rights???...As far as I'm concerned, once you cross that line you loose all your rights.

    /End rant


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Xennon wrote: »
    I agree completely with you,

    /Rant
    we need some means to voice the opinions of people who wish to be heard. There's no point in talking to councilors, politicians, gardai etc, it seems to be in vain.

    Limerick has had a crime problem for a very very long time, yet as the years pass, more and more people complain about the establishment not doing anything about it, but it all seems to fall on deaf ears.

    What exactly will it take before something is done about these people who seem to ignore any form of law? How many people exactly will have to get knifed/shot/mugged, dragged by the hair up a street?

    The gardai are cuffed with their own system of 'law'. They know exactly whats going on and who's behind it, but woe betide the garda that mistreats one of our upstanding criminals while they're being chauffeur driven to their holiday home on Mulgrave Street.

    What exactly happened to the 'pay for your crime' philosophy? Today these people are sent to "prison" where we feed, cloth, and keep them warm. We give them TVs (in case they miss the late late), We allow them mobile phones and budgies. Here they spend time chatting, getting to know more 'lads'. some might say they are on a networking retreat.

    Why aren't they out working, cleaning streets or some such constructive work? Prisoners rights???...As far as I'm concerned, once you cross that line you loose all your rights.

    /End rant

    Blame the E.U, U.N and human rights movements for these.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭carlowguy32


    I think the gardai do an excellent job, my windows and car was vandalised, they were out in a few minutes, i know there was nothing they could do to catch the scum but they were so helpful and left me phone numbers and stuff and got the CCTV people tp point a camera on my house for a few weeks, they have to put up with so much cheek and aggression form these young thugs, i dont know what they are paid but you would have to pay me double to listen to the scum bags and their so called rights, with their free houses and free dole, get a job and have some respect for yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭BarryCreed


    cops should be allowed beat them! bring back hard labour or chain gangs, get them breaking rocks somewhere...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    The problem is the Courts, and the Government for not building enough prisons for the Courts to use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Sun came out today, may be reason for checkpoint on Croom road. Must have been about 8 Gardai there with technical equip. for weighing trucks. Takes great discipline not to ask them why they don't make the same efforts at curbing crime in City and county.
    Modern technology can be used to catch people without tax and insurance.

    Moderators; it might be worth starting a Limerick crime topic, to which people can add comments as events occur.
    Because that was traffic corp.

    I think the guards do a good job with what they have, they cant be everywhere at once, and a phonecall usually gets them there in a matter of minutes. for example a few months ago while waiting for a taxi outside our apartment block wee noticed two uong fellas tryin the doros of cars and lookin into them. called henry street, within 30 seconds there was a car there, with a wagon a minute later. the guys were in the back of the wagon and on their way to the station in 3 minutes.
    Other times, I've called for fights, or drink driving, and always a similarily fast response. Even that car hijacking at the groody roundabout on monday, they had that guy caught in no time, even though he tried to ram a garda checkpoint.
    Sure crime is a huge issue in this city, but the cops are working as hard as they can at it, maybe more-so than in the past. the real finger of blame needs to be pointed at the court system, and our lousy council who allowed this problem to fester for years, practically funding the gangs by giving them free houses and a loyal customer base for their drugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    The problem is the Courts, and the Government for not building enough prisons for the Courts to use.
    The problem is the government giving the multitude of scumbags that live in Limerick City our hard earned money for doing absolutely nothing. 75% of them are more than able to work, but expect handouts at every corner. Its disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    same/similar gang attacked 2 friends of mine last night, vw, possibly bora, 3/4 girls, they blocked the footpath by opening car door and surrounded them, girls fought back, they even tried to drag one of them into the car. up near old quarter. if its the same gang cops need to cop on. excuse the pun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Xennon


    I think the guards do a good job with what they have
    if its the same gang cops need to cop on

    Funny how when people experience these thugs close to home, attitude towards the gardai changes. Not blaming you at all lad, unfortunately as we all know their hands are tied by a scumbag loving judiciary.

    How can this be changed? Who controls the judiciary? What can we do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    urgh.
    I've noticed in the area between the river and the bus station, the number of scumbags on the streets tends to increase as you get closer to the train station, and decrease neaer the river. The river feels ok, jenry st feels ok, o'connell st feels dodgy...the st with the bus station (patrick st?) feels plain dangerous.

    The problem with the guards in this country is that they throw their weight around with decent people and are scared of scumbags. Increasing the numbers of them won't change that. Increasing their legal power won't change that. The new armed unit in limerick probably is the right way to go unfortunately. Less guards with more training and equipment would be better - as it is the guards are scared of scumbags and scumbags have no respect or fear of guards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Xennon wrote: »
    Funny how when people experience these thugs close to home, attitude towards the gardai changes. Not blaming you at all lad, unfortunately as we all know their hands are tied by a scumbag loving judiciary.

    How can this be changed? Who controls the judiciary? What can we do?
    no i do think the cops do a good job in general, im just saying in this instance, if its the same gang, its shouldnt still be happening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    I have seen nothing in the press about these attacks. Have you tried bringing it to their attention?
    Press scrutiny will get an answer out of the Gardai as to why nothing was done (or if something was done, they will explain the measures they took)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Jumpy wrote: »
    I have seen nothing in the press about these attacks. Have you tried bringing it to their attention?
    Press scrutiny will get an answer out of the Gardai as to why nothing was done (or if something was done, they will explain the measures they took)
    there was one similar story in this weekend post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 famousjenny


    Myself and my kid sis were attacked as we walked to Kebabish on Ellen St at 1.30am on Sunday morning. A SILVER 03 VW BORA car was pulled up along the kerb and a girl in PINK FLEECE pyjamas got out the passenger side, opening the door wide so we couldn't get through. From behind us came 3 girls, one of which ran up my right side and tried to grab my bag. I say tried because me and my sis started fighting back. They knocked me to the ground and tried to slam the car door on me a few times but i was in high heels and started kicking whatever shins were in front of me. There was 2 girls on em and 3 on my sis. I am 4ft 10 and my sis is 5ft. I guess they thought we were easy targets cos we were small. I don't know what possessed us to fight back, it was instant reaction. We gave them a hiding and we got to keep our bags. Well worth the bruises to teach those scumbags they won't win every time. But i don't recommend it as apparently they carry knives and are 'known to the gardaí' as the first post said. But just thought I'd post my story up too to giev another perspective.

    I have a few friends who are guards and they would love nothing more than to give those gowls a message they won't forget, but their hands are tied. That and you're dealing with inbred, low-life scum who actually enjoy this sort of thing, so you won't get any joy out catching them anyway. Unfortunately the only things they understand are the things they engage in for kicks, namely violence. And we can't all go round armed to the teeth waiting for our showdown, as a friend of mine said after this happened to me, "if you carry (weapons) you're just raising the stakes and bringing it to a whole other level there's no coming back from." This is true, but if at all possible, I urge people to make it as difficult as is humanly possible for those creatures for get the better of you. If you are attacked, just kick, screm, punch, tear, grab, scratch and keep going until they give up. Who knows, they may leave a little worse than they arrived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Myself and my kid sis were attacked as we walked to Kebabish on Ellen St at 1.30am on Sunday morning. A SILVER 03 VW BORA car was pulled up along the kerb and a girl in PINK FLEECE pyjamas got out the passenger side, opening the door wide so we couldn't get through. From behind us came 3 girls, one of which ran up my right side and tried to grab my bag. I say tried because me and my sis started fighting back. They knocked me to the ground and tried to slam the car door on me a few times but i was in high heels and started kicking whatever shins were in front of me. There was 2 girls on em and 3 on my sis. I am 4ft 10 and my sis is 5ft. I guess they thought we were easy targets cos we were small. I don't know what possessed us to fight back, it was instant reaction. We gave them a hiding and we got to keep our bags. Well worth the bruises to teach those scumbags they won't win every time. But i don't recommend it as apparently they carry knives and are 'known to the gardaí' as the first post said. But just thought I'd post my story up too to giev another perspective.

    I have a few friends who are guards and they would love nothing more than to give those gowls a message they won't forget, but their hands are tied. That and you're dealing with inbred, low-life scum who actually enjoy this sort of thing, so you won't get any joy out catching them anyway. Unfortunately the only things they understand are the things they engage in for kicks, namely violence. And we can't all go round armed to the teeth waiting for our showdown, as a friend of mine said after this happened to me, "if you carry (weapons) you're just raising the stakes and bringing it to a whole other level there's no coming back from." This is true, but if at all possible, I urge people to make it as difficult as is humanly possible for those creatures for get the better of you. If you are attacked, just kick, screm, punch, tear, grab, scratch and keep going until they give up. Who knows, they may leave a little worse than they arrived.


    Are you the friends zuroph was referring to? or is this another incident?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Jumpy wrote: »
    Are you the friends zuroph was referring to? or is this another incident?
    same incident.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 famousjenny


    zuroph wrote: »
    same/similar gang attacked 2 friends of mine last night, vw, possibly bora, 3/4 girls, they blocked the footpath by opening car door and surrounded them, girls fought back, they even tried to drag one of them into the car. up near old quarter. if its the same gang cops need to cop on. excuse the pun.

    Yup that was us! It would be interesting to see the cctv footage; the guard pointed to the one that was up on the wall above Solo which would have been looking right down on us...that is if it's working, who knows these things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Fair play to ye for fighting back, a swift smack in the face is something most scumbags need, of course they'll all be bragging to their friends now about " aw we bate the ****e outa uuuummmmm, pure hard we are arenwe jacinta?"


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    krudler wrote: »
    Fair play to ye for fighting back, a swift smack in the face is something most scumbags need, of course they'll all be bragging to their friends now about " aw we bate the ****e outa uuuummmmm, pure hard we are arenwe jacinta?"

    Spot on Krudler, the last thing Jacinta and Paprika want is someone to stand up to them.

    Funnily enough, I was heading home yesterday and in the car front of me were 4 female scummers in a 99 VW berating a guy waiting at a busstop. Reggae music blaring goodo. Pretty ugly stuff. Having read this thread, I took down the licence in case it matches anything here so I could contact the guards, but it doesn't appear to be the same crowd. Actually maybe it is...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Jumpy wrote: »
    *pictured in my mind........*



    Gard: "Is this yor vee-hicle?"

    Girl: "Fook yoo gardee!" *meep..meeeeeeep*

    Gard: "Well, oyl let ye off this time young lady, but make sure ye turn dem loights on"

    Girl: "CHASE ME YOO GOWEL!" *meeeeeeeeeeep*

    Gard: *chuckles* "Now arent you a noisy young wan, run along home now"

    Girl: "I SAYED FOOKIN CHAYUS ME" *meeeeep meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*

    Gard: *goes back inside*

    Funnist thing I've read in while. :D Tough time not imagining a scummy roadrunner though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭mikep


    Hi

    I was just wondering if any of these attacks were reported to the gaurds...

    A number of people reporting the same girls in the same car should make it fairly easy for them to be identified....

    Would all the people who were attacked be willing to press charges??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    AFAIK jenny above is keeping the pressure on the cops to do something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheLoc


    BarryCreed wrote: »
    unfortunately, like school teachers, they can't whack anyone anymore, which is a shame..fight fire with fire...

    If there was the fear of hard labour, or the electric chair, or deportation to Van Diemens land :eek: I wonder what the crime rate would be like..

    they should fecked off to fight for the UN for a month or 2. that will teach the *****.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheLoc


    My car got robbed by joyriders for the 3rd time in 5 years 2 weeks ago. from castletroy. The guards have never caught anyone. The just said "its a bunch of 16 year olds doing whatever they feel like." I said, well do something so u waste of space.
    They found my car burnt out by vistakon, the next day, the car was missing. They didn't know where it was gone. i needed the car for the insurance company so I could make a claim. I presumed the council took it but the guards didn't move they're fat lazy arses. Had to do all of it myself and as for the culprits.... The guards couldn't give a toss. they're to busy arresting people for calling them pigs for actually arresting people that are doing crimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 famousjenny


    mikep wrote: »
    Hi

    I was just wondering if any of these attacks were reported to the gaurds...

    A number of people reporting the same girls in the same car should make it fairly easy for them to be identified....

    Would all the people who were attacked be willing to press charges??

    Mine was definitely reported on the night,

    re: second point they are very well known to the guards

    re: last point i will deffo press charges (for all the good it will do!) but i work on the motto that sh*t rolls downhill so if i show up at the station every other day, as i have already started to do, and talk to the guards who dealt with me ( I have their names )and ask them what's happening, constantly keep my face in their minds, i might just get some results even if it's just to get rid of me! I'm pretty stubborn so this is going to be a project of mine until something moves.

    Unfortunately since i'm not the only person to ever have been attacked on their watches, it IS up to me to see that it's pursued. Not an ideal world we live in but we have to adapt and do whatever it takes to get it done. The guarsd are snowed under with paperwork and restrictions on what they can do and so i'm sure it's frustrating for them, and things like what happened to me are small potatoes compared to the other things they deal with, but that's where stubborn wans like me can help with constant badgering for some semblance of justice.

    I would love to find out details of those 2 girls who were attacked on the monday and see what we can do collectively, anyone who knows them can you message me privately? I'll be discreet and not wierd, I just want to sort those scumbag inbred cousin-shagging yellow-gold earring wearing hum-of-neglect smelling illiterate spineless lank-haired herpes-promoting scabies=spreading excuses for test-tube rejects as soon as I can.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    TheLoc wrote: »
    My car got robbed by joyriders for the 3rd time in 5 years 2 weeks ago. from castletroy. The guards have never caught anyone. The just said "its a bunch of 16 year olds doing whatever they feel like." I said, well do something so u waste of space.
    They found my car burnt out by vistakon, the next day, the car was missing. They didn't know where it was gone. i needed the car for the insurance company so I could make a claim. I presumed the council took it but the guards didn't move they're fat lazy arses. Had to do all of it myself and as for the culprits.... The guards couldn't give a toss. they're to busy arresting people for calling them pigs for actually arresting people that are doing crimes.

    Very hard to convict anyone without that legal thing known as PROOF and EVIDENCE. Unless the person is caught in the car its pretty hard to prove who did it. Most car thieves wear gloves which will obviously stop any forensic evidence being found. Did you think about ringing the council or ring the garda station and ask for a crime number, then give that to your insurance company and they do the rest. I know lots of people who have had their cars robbed and burnt out and insurance companies have paid out no problem.


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