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Armstrong to return, ride in '09 Tour

  • 08-09-2008 6:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,174 ✭✭✭✭


    Lance Armstrong will come out of retirement and race in the Tour de France next year, sources close to the situation have told Velo News.

    Armstrong, who will turn 37 years old this month, would race with Astana, the sources said.

    The seven-time Tour de France winner will race in the Amgen Tour of California, Paris-Nice, the Tour de Georgia, the Dauphine-Libere and the Tour de France — for no salary or bonuses.

    Armstrong's manager, Mark Higgins, did not answer questions.

    An article about Armstrong's comeback will be published in the upcoming issue of Vanity Fair, Velo News said.

    Armstrong reportedly will reunite with his former team manager Johan Bruyneel, who guided Armstrong and his teams Motorola and U.S. Postal Service to seven straight Tour de France titles.

    Sources also told Velo News that Armstrong will post all of his internally tested blood work online to prove that he's clean.

    Link


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    I saw that on some random forum a while back. I wonder how true it is, and if if he did, would he be a contender?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I find this very strange, if it is true. He's 37, will have been out of competition for four years by next years Tour. I can't see him winning much. Maybe he just misses racing. Would be very odd seeing him working as a domestique for Contador.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭smithslist


    is it April the 1st?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Morgan


    Maybe Bruyneel is blackmailing him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭smithslist


    is it April the 1st?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,174 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    smithslist wrote: »
    is it April the 1st?
    No it's double posting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭smithslist


    kmart6 wrote: »
    No it's double posting!

    i had to ask twice.....to be sure

    heres the link:
    http://www.velonews.com/article/82892/sources-lance-armstrong-coming-back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    Thesee rumours always come out from time to time, I would like to see him come back but i just dont think they are true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    I think the chances of him coming back are pretty slim - In fact I'm so confident he won't come back if he does I'll do the Wicklow 200 in this outfit....shoes and all...


    borat_cannes_2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    I think the chances of him coming back are pretty slim - In fact I'm so confident he won't come back if he does I'll do the Wicklow 200 in this outfit....shoes and all...


    borat_cannes_2.jpg

    Jeebus, if he does, I'll pay you not to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    I'm sure Levi and Berto will be delighted to be Lance's new super domestiques...;)


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Apparently he's meant to reveal all in an interview in Vanity Fair later on this month. By then we'll know whether Funkyzeit will be investing in a mankini.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭crashoveroid


    this would be interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Morgan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    Morgan wrote: »

    Oh, bang goes my theory that he was riding to force Prudhomme's hand and let Astana into the Tour!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Signal_ rabbit


    I reckon if he does he'll make a tit of himself. He was the ultimate super sportsman, that's undisputed (?), but not being 'ageist' i think he is too old now and been out of the game too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    I reckon if he does he'll make a tit of himself. He was the ultimate super sportsman, that's undisputed (?), but not being 'ageist' i think he is too old now and been out of the game too long.

    Yep, which made me think he had an ulterior motive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭crashoveroid


    I reckon if he does he'll make a tit of himself. He was the ultimate super sportsman, that's undisputed (?), but not being 'ageist' i think he is too old now and been out of the game too long.

    It was the same about 10 years ago when he made his comeback intresting how people were saying the same thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    Maybe he's found some new, undetectable wonder drug that'll guarantee him the win, and he just wants to get even more smug :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    Malcolm Eliott is 47 and he still rides for team Pinarello... and he never came close what Armstrong achieved in his career.

    Let him come back if he wants to.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    The stuff on cyclingnews.com today makes me a little sceptical. Astana are denying it. If it were true they'd probably be saying 'no comment'. If he were doing it, you'd have to wonder what other team he'd go to. Can't see him jumping on board at Garmin-Chipotle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    There have been so many rumours about him doping maybe he just wants to come back and prove that he's clean and still be competitive, though not win.

    Kind of like saying, well if I'm still up there at 37 and definitely clean then why couldn't I have been as good as I was and clean when I was younger.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    By the way, Rebellin is 37 and is no slouch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Maybe he's found some new, undetectable wonder drug that'll guarantee him the win, and he just wants to get even more smug :)

    You mean even newer than the wonder drugs that he was taking.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Signal_ rabbit


    ROK ON wrote: »
    You mean even newer than the wonder drugs that he was taking.:)


    Ooooooooooooooo controversial!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    Ooooooooooooooo controversial!

    Any thread mentioning the man must descend into drug rumors... it's the law!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    Won't happen. This all stems from him re-registering for out of competition testing which he had to do to take part in the recent leadville 100 Mountain Bike race. From there a few people added 2 + 2 and got 5. No way he would come back and taint his legacy. He wouldn't ride for anyone other than Astana and I cannot see him riding support for Contador anymore than I could see Contador riding support for him.

    If anything its just a media stunt to promote something or other. Expect to see some new fundraising initiative, book, clothing line, etc... announced in the vanity fair magazine. He's just getting his name out there and reminding people he still exists, the guy knows his name is a brand and brands need to be publicised if you want them to sell, its just simple economics. He has proven very adept at this in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Junior


    Quigs Snr wrote: »
    Won't happen. This all stems from him re-registering for out of competition testing which he had to do to take part in the recent leadville 100 Mountain Bike race. From there a few people added 2 + 2 and got 5. No way he would come back and taint his legacy. He wouldn't ride for anyone other than Astana and I cannot see him riding support for Contador anymore than I could see Contador riding support for him.

    If anything its just a media stunt to promote something or other. Expect to see some new fundraising initiative, book, clothing line, etc... announced in the vanity fair magazine. He's just getting his name out there and reminding people he still exists, the guy knows his name is a brand and brands need to be publicised if you want them to sell, its just simple economics. He has proven very adept at this in the past.

    So what your saying is there could be a possibilty of him lining out in Comeragh Colors next year for the league races as a lead out man for Robin ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    I wouldn't say no, I suppose Junior ! We will probably put a team in the RAS and can always use a handy rider or two, speaking of which are you still retiring from the sport or are you going to bite the bullet and come join us ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭sy


    Its the oligarchs money that may be tempting him. New team, high profile rider ??? slight possibility but don't think it will happen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭penexpers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    I think the chances of him coming back are pretty slim - In fact I'm so confident he won't come back if he does I'll do the Wicklow 200 in this outfit....shoes and all...


    borat_cannes_2.jpg

    By any chance did you email this into Eurosport just there?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Looks like it might be confirmed now. Armstrong's spokesman told AP he's coming back and says he wants to win the Tour again. No team yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    E@gle. wrote: »
    By any chance did you email this into Eurosport just there?

    Great spotting Eagle ! I did indeed. Was funny as Kelly was in the middle of talking about the World Championship team when Harmon prob opened it up - you could hear Kelly trying to keep in the laugh! They must be getting feck all emails as 3 I've sent in have been read out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    el tonto wrote: »
    Looks like it might be confirmed now. Armstrong's spokesman told AP he's coming back and says he wants to win the Tour again. No team yet.

    Front page on BBC aswell :eek:

    In terms of Teams surely Garmin-Chip wouldn't be an option with their stance and Lance's 'questionable' history?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    Great spotting Eagle ! I did indeed. Was funny as Kelly was in the middle of talking about the World Championship team when Harmon prob opened it up - you could hear Kelly trying to keep in the laugh! They must be getting feck all emails as 3 I've sent in have been read out...

    hehe but David Harmon quoted that you would were the mankini in the Sean kelly tour, so looks like your screwed cos hes coming back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭rash


    He's 12/1 on paddypower for TDF

    only 4/1 on sportingbet.com

    worth an each way bet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    E@gle. wrote: »
    hehe but David Harmon quoted that you would were the mankini in the Sean kelly tour, so looks like your screwed cos hes coming back
    :D
    I think Lance is trying to call my bluff...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    rash wrote: »
    He's 12/1 on paddypower for TDF

    only 4/1 on sportingbet.com

    worth an each way bet?

    i wonder what those odds will be like tomorrow now thats its confirmed


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    In terms of Teams surely Garmin-Chip wouldn't be an option with their stance and Lance's 'questionable' history?

    Nor Columbia either, even if he does pine for Big George. Can't see him getting along with Riis, so CSC is out too.

    Rock Racing is an obvious choice, given that it's American and Michael Ball loves stunts like this. But with a roster that includes Tyler Hamilton, Oscar Sevilla and Santi Botero, I doubt they'd get a Tour de France invite.

    Katusha want to sign a GC contender and didn't get Sastre. You'd have to wonder who else. Barloworld? Quickstep?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    :D
    I think Lance is trying to call my bluff...

    You know we are going to hold you to your word, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    el tonto wrote: »
    Rock Racing is an obvious choice, given that it's American and Michael Ball loves stunts like this. But with a roster that includes Tyler Hamilton, Oscar Sevilla and Santi Botero, I doubt they'd get a Tour de France invite.


    I doubt he will go anywhere near Rock racing given some of their riders history


    Everyone is saying Asanta but will they get a tour invite next year and what will Contador think of this.

    Maybe not columbia due to fact that its basically T-mobile.

    One think is for certain he will defiently be riding a Trek bike and its looking like Asanta


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    el tonto wrote: »
    You know we are going to hold you to your word, right?

    Of course - I just need the shoes...

    Can't see it being Katyusha - the high profile of Armstrong might be what THEY need but could you see the Great American hero riding for 'Ruskies'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    E@gle. wrote: »
    One think is for certain he will defiently be riding a Trek bike and its looking like Asanta

    Pretty sure I read somewhere that Astana were dropping/being dropped by Trek...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    i thought this was total bullshít when i first read it... i'm amazed it's true. lance didn't strike me as the punch-drunk-boxer type who always thinks he has one more victory in him. he went out on a high, and frankly, what has he got left to prove (even if he were to win the next tour those rumours will never go away)? i doubt he's short of a bob or two so it really does just sem that he can't hack retirement - even with leadville and marathons etc.

    any team would be mad to turn him down in my opinion, but it surely has to be astana, doesn't it? no offence to berto but no one outside of cycling has ever heard of him so, from a purely mercenary perspective, armstrong will attract a lot of media, and sell a lot of merchandise.

    @funkyzeit - in a recent european court ruling everything said on teh internetz is considered legally binding. look on the bright side though, at least you won't have people trying to hang onto your rear wheel at the next w200. *shudder


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭littleknown


    so lance is back. dont know about you guys but the tour has certainly been a lot duller since he was out of it. just dont know if its a good decision really though. seems like a bit of a michael jordon moment. leave a great, come back and leave an alright.
    says hes doing it to raise awareness for cancer. I reckon a lot of people are aware of it already but its a good gesture for sure.
    win it again? i hope so, would be an unbelievable story as if it wasnt already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    The TdF has been plenty entertaining over the last three years, for good and bad reasons.

    I defintely don't want to see him comeback and dominate the sport like he did, although I think it more likely he will flat on his face. There isn't a hope in hell Astana will take him imo.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    E@gle. wrote: »
    Everyone is saying Asanta but will they get a tour invite next year and what will Contador think of this.

    Maybe not columbia due to fact that its basically T-mobile.

    One think is for certain he will defiently be riding a Trek bike and its looking like Asanta

    Astana have already said he won't be riding for them.

    Actually, they denied it first, but Cyclingnews now has Brunyeel saying that if he comes back it will more than likely be with them.

    As for their invite, it was dependent on them keeping their nose clean. Not sure if the Gusev thing will go against them.

    so lance is back. dont know about you guys but the tour has certainly been a lot duller since he was out of it.

    I don't know about you, but I always find the Tour more interesting when I don't know who's going to win it beforehand.

    Funkyzeit wrote: »
    Can't see it being Katyusha - the high profile of Armstrong might be what THEY need but could you see the Great American hero riding for 'Ruskies'?

    It was really a process of elimination, trying to figure who would have him. Kind of redundant now that Astana have said they may take him on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    I admire Lance's tenacity and grit, and I would love to see him back in the tour. I only started following cycle racing after he quit, so I never really got to see him in action.
    I don't neccessarily like the man, having read his own books and a biography, but his drive sure as hell impresses me.
    I don't think his winning the tour will be as much of a fore-gone conclusion as it may have been in the past and it certainly adds a very intriguing dimension to next years tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    Raam wrote: »
    I admire Lance's tenacity and grit, and I would love to see him back in the tour. I only started following cycle racing after he quit, so I never really got to see him in action.
    I don't neccessarily like the man, having read his own books and a biography, but his drive sure as hell impresses me.
    I don't think his winning the tour will be as much of a fore-gone conclusion as it may have been in the past and it certainly adds a very intriguing dimension to next years tour.

    +1 -pretty much all you said applies to me too!


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