Use of Irish as a Garda

mikemac

Just a question I've been wondering about.
I know a garda has to do a Irish test when joining but I reckon only a fraction of serving gardai are fluent, much like the general populuation.

Does this become a factor when assigning gardai to Gaeltecht areas?
I mean suppose a garda is walking around the town and the locals immediately switch in Irish.
They could be discussing or planning anything or they could be laughing at the garda without them knowing it.
And sure there's plently of cute hoors out whest

So is it a requirement for a Garda to be fluent in Irish before getting assigned to a Gaeltecht area?

Dr_MaSoN

micmclo wrote: »

I know a garda has to do a Irish test when joining

Previously you may have had to but now a days you dont have to.

timmywex

Defp open to correction, but afaik, you must have a fairly good level of irish for gaeltacht positions and you get an allowance also!?

TheNog

timmywex wrote: »

Defp open to correction, but afaik, you must have a fairly good level of irish for gaeltacht positions and you get an allowance also!?

that's right. anyone going to gaeltacht areas must be fluent in irish and they get an allowance of 7% increase.

i'll never get that 7% allowance

ramair

there are 2 different gaeltacht classifications in the civil service.. one must have attained at least 80% in a civil service irish exam in order to serve in "real" gaeltacht area i.e aran islands etc... it used to be 70% for service in areas like say galway city but that has been abolished and anyone can serve there... however... most members would be fluent in galway, others will have undergone the civil service exam to attain the gaeltacht allowance..


i would consider myself fairly fluent and would use irish in the job a couple of times a week and i serve in the dma

ScubaDave

Im in a gaeltacht area and im not likely to get that money anytime soon! Nor are many of the station.

deadwood

A bhreitheamh. Chuaigh me amach faoin tuath ar mo rothar. La brea samhradh a bhi ann, ni raibh scamaill sa speir. I bpreab na suile chonaic me gouger. Rith se uaim ar nos na gaoithe. Rith mo mhadra Bran tar eis an fear dona. Is maith liom a bheith i mo gharda.

metman

Cheapaim go bhfuil Bran an nGarda i san sceail seo mo chara!

deadwood

metman wrote: »

Cheapaim go bhfuil Bran an nGarda i san sceail seo mo chara!

Nuair a bhi me og, a mhetman...nuair a bhi me og.

metman

Sean-Guard no glic Guard? Ar aon nos, taim ag dul dti mo leaba, oiche mhaith :pac:

eroo

What in the name of Jesus are ye doing??Go to the 'Gaeilge' forum in After Hours'!!

deadwood

metman wrote: »

Sean-Guard no glic Guard?

Glic, agus mie ar Boards?!;)

ScubaDave

My irish isnt that bad after all!

Fyr.Fytr

Cuinis calin bothár bainne

yayamark

Agus Sharon Ni Bheolain :pac:

Eru

eroo wrote: »

What in the name of Jesus are ye doing??Go to the 'Gaeilge' forum in After Hours'!!

Agreed, speaking Irish just too show they can. You sound like a bunch of RA heads practising how too give your names and addresses as Gaeilge.

I can just about speak the basics (enough to demand name and address and caution). Why after 14 years can I not speak it? Because Im bad at languages in general and found Irish too be even trickier than the latin and germanic languages.

Why do I hate it? Because it was rammed down my throat for 14 years, my teachers mocked me and punished me in equal measure for not being gifted at it, then blocked my chosen career until I went back too school in my mid 20s and put myself through that **** all over again just so I could do a job that it turns out doesnt really need it.

Oh and also the fact that your not really 'Republican' or a proud Irishman unless you are fluent aparantly.

Fyr.Fytr

C1 in pass irish, to thisday dont kno how i did that well. Just learned stuff off that we knew was coming up, still havnt a breeze tbh.


Oh if yanks ask you to speak irish, the oul hail mary as gailge works a treat

angelfire9

deadwood wrote: »

Rith mo mhadra Bran tar eis an fear dona.

Translation: My dog "Bran" ran after the bold man

metman wrote: »

Cheapaim go bhfuil Bran an nGarda i san sceail seo mo chara!

So metman is friends with a dog???

deadwood

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

Agreed, speaking Irish just too show they can. You sound like a bunch of RA heads practising how too give your names and addresses as Gaeilge.

Why do I hate it? Because it was rammed down my throat for 14 years, my teachers mocked me and punished me in equal measure for not being gifted at it, then blocked my chosen career until I went back too school in my mid 20s and put myself through that **** all over again just so I could do a job that it turns out doesnt really need it.

Oh and also the fact that your not really 'Republican' or a proud Irishman unless you are fluent aparantly.

Those oppressive teachers should have rammed a bit of English down your throat too!
Please don't take offence Karlitos. I couldn't resist.

eroo

Uh-Oh

deadwood

I'm sorry! It's a compulsive thing. (I'll bet someone has OCD and I shouldn't be so insensitive etc..)

metman

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

Agreed, speaking Irish just too show they can. You sound like a bunch of RA heads practising how too give your names and addresses as Gaeilge.

Tsk tsk Karl.

As for looking like a RA head, I find that highly unlikely in my case :P

Eru

deadwood wrote: »

Those oppressive teachers should have rammed a bit of English down your throat too!
Please don't take offence Karlitos. I couldn't resist.

two mistakes, christ your picky!

deadwood

Zero tolerance. I know how standards matter to you.
I'm not too hot on germanic languages () and latin, though.
A very measured response Mr Way1978. I'm suspicious. I had the sudo creme in the fridge.

Eru

deadwood wrote: »

Zero tolerance. I know how standards matter to you.
I'm not too hot on germanic languages () and latin, though.
A very measured response Mr Way1978. I'm suspicious. I had the sudo creme in the fridge.

World of difference between a friendly piss-take and an arsehole talking ****. I can appreciate the first one.

Anyway, surely Vaseline would be the better option? Not that Im an expert on that or anything :P

jaffa20

Alors, voyons qu'on parle l'anglais et l'irlandais ici. Pourquoi pas parler un peu de francais aussi. Je deteste la langue irlandaise. C'est trop dur et je m'en fous si la police ne le parle. Environs 00000000.1 % de la popluation irlandaise la parle couramment.

Eru

jaffa20 wrote: »

Alors, voyons qu'on parle l'anglais et l'irlandais ici. Pourquoi pas parler un peu de francais aussi.

No

deadwood

jaffa20 wrote: »

Environs 00000000.1 % de la popluation irlandaise la parle couramment.

In English, French or As Gaeilge 00000000.1%is still=0.1%.
It's all in the detail.
You're right though.
I'd like to do Polish or Chinese classes as i'm much more likely to need that than the cúla focail.

deadwood

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

World of difference between a friendly piss-take and an arsehole talking ****. I can appreciate the first one.

You're right. There's a difference between scratching it and tearing it.
Anyway, surely Vaseline would be the better option? Not that Im an expert on that or anything :P

..without the sand in.

deadwood

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

World of difference between a friendly piss-take and an arsehole talking ****. I can appreciate the first one.

You're right. There's a difference between scratching it and tearing it.

Anyway, surely Vaseline would be the better option? Not that Im an expert on that or anything :P

..without the sand in.

civdef

We gots a serious thread drift developing here....