Is this goal possible?

brianthebard

Some background;

Age 22, Height, 6ft, Weight 91kg, Leg circumference 24in at thickest point, previous maxes; Squat 120kgx2, dead 150kgx1, Bench *cough * 70kgx1

Ok I was training twice a week from october or november until Mayish, when I hurt my back. Foolishly didn’t get physio or anything until about a fortnight ago. :rolleyes: Its on the mend now though, and I’m starting back to uni with a new gym and new expectations. I had thought about training towards a powerlifting comp next year, but thats up in the air until my back is totally better, if even. I have the usual goals of getting stronger and losing fat, but I figured I need something proper and clear cut. So how hard would it be to increase the size of my legs to 26 inches by the end of the year? Now September is taken up with rehabbing and getting my stamina back, so that leaves two and a bit months (december will no doubt be all over the place).
Does anyone have any experience of this sort of growth? Is it ott, or am I not aiming high enough? I figure I have half an inch muscle memory to gain back, and then there are the usual noob gains so could I do it?

I’m only back in the gym for the second time today in yonks, but this is roughly what I did;

db rows 22kgx10, 26kgx8x2.

Seated good mornings, barx8, 40kgx8,x2.

Front squats, 50kgx8, 60x6,65x6,70x6. 75X3x2,75x2 (left the third one on the pins, dammit).

Bradford press, 20x8, 30x6, 30x6.(with a lot of leg drive in fairness).

I don’t have a programme as such atm, just trying to do push pull and squat, with some back rehab and regain stamina and strength. Not going to deadlift for the month.

Yesterday I ate;
3 eggs, scrambled,w/2 slices of soda bread.

50g protein w/banana,yoghurt, avocado, 2 carrots, blended.

Szeuchan(?) chili chicken(one fillet), w/a third cup of brown rice and lots of frozen peas.

Night time shake w/milk.

Today so far has been;
3 eggs, four slices of bread.

Banana before training.
Powerade afterwards.

Chicken wrap (prepacked, yes)

50g whey.

Later I’m having prawns and noodles, then a shake at night.


Ok so the diet sucks, I haven’t been eating much since I’ve been off training though, so it will get better. I reckon another protein smoothie w/some veg would be easily fitted in. Training is basic atm, but is it ok for what I need, to get my back healthy and prepare for growth? Will I need to be eating everything in sight to make gains? I’m not going to concern myself too much with losing fat and see what happens, but I would like to keep any fat gains to a minimum. Can anyone suggest a programme? I’m thinking a good 5x5 month, followed by 20 rep squats? Any questions or comments please post them up. I can post pics if that’s necessary. Thanks in advance.

cowzerp

With smart training and good diet this is very achievable,,
go for it..

brianthebard

What do you consider smart training cowzerp?

amazingemmet

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/the_ultimate_legs_program&cr=

you can thank me later

brianthebard

amazingemmet wrote: »

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/the_ultimate_legs_program&cr=

you can thank me later

That seems quite...advanced. Is it suitable for a noob? The last time I tried a t-nation programme I realised half way through I wasn't fit enough for it and stopped after two weeks.

MicraBoy

You aren't a total n00b if you are already doing squats, right?

Would a ehem "simpler" program like the one being discussed further down the board be an option for achieving this goal?

20 rep squats

brianthebard

Well the squats would be difficult but possible and day two would also be ok, it was the circuits that were bothering me really. I suck at cardio/circuits. Maybe I can start working them into my training now, for the next month or two, and build up to the intensity needed for the programme emmet posted.

kevpants

Man I had similar stats bar the bench a few months back when I started a Westside program. Then none of kevpants' pants fit kevpants. I was kevnopants.

Seriously, I had to buy some stretchy powerlifting pants online. Now I'm kevstretchypants.

You say you were training towards a powerlifting meet, what program were you doing?

cowzerp

brianthebard wrote: »

What do you consider smart training cowzerp?

Making sure you are challenged, balancing out your muscles, not over training, using mainly multi joint exercises such as chest press, squats, row's etc..there is more and i have a life so thats it!

brianthebard

kevpants wrote: »

Man I had similar stats bar the bench a few months back when I started a Westside program. Then none of kevpants' pants fit kevpants. I was kevnopants.

Seriously, I had to buy some stretchy powerlifting pants online. Now I'm kevstretchypants.

You say you were training towards a powerlifting meet, what program were you doing?

Lolz I wasn't on a programme, I was thinking about it. Basically If I had hit 100kg on the bench I would've started training for pl, as it is the back gave before that. How long were you training for before you started the westside?

kevpants

brianthebard wrote: »

Lolz I wasn't on a programme, I was thinking about it. Basically If I had hit 100kg on the bench I would've started training for pl, as it is the back gave before that. How long were you training for before you started the westside?

Aww man years of fuking around getting nowhere, my bench was just over 100kg though. Just cos I loved benching and it did creep up over the years. It's 132kg now by the way and that's just over the summer.

I know alot of people say don't do Westside until you're already advanced but that's crap in my opinion. It gets you under really heavy weight and you adapt.

The only thing I'd say if you do look into Westside is to forget the DE (speed) days, do RE (repetion) days instead. Speed days are really more beneficial for advanced or lifters who use equipment.

I freekin love this program but I don't tend to pimp it too much round these parts cos it's not for everyone. Reckon you'd like it though.

brianthebard

Is that the westside for skinny bastards? Can't believe I'm saying this, but not sure I can go heavy atm. I'm doing the front squats cause they seem to put less stress on my back, and like I said no deads. We'll see how my back is in a month, I can't commit to any programme while its not 100%

kevpants

No it's just Westside. Got most of my info from Elitefts.com. A few good articles there by Jim Wendler. Look up "How to Bench like a stripper". Good article.

I did quite alot of research on it before I started, I was heading on holidays and wasn't going to start until I got back. It's worth knowing how it works, particularly with the assistance exercises. So don't worry if you can't commit to it at the moment.

I wouldn't worry about the deads, you'll only really be pulling every few weeks at times (some of the really advanced guys hardly ever train the deadlift, too taxing and the squat and squat assistance exercises help it in any case) and you can use front squats, zercher squats or good mornings as Max effort exercises so you could get into the routine while you're still rehabing. I don't know how bad your back is so obviously don't push it. Just if you want to get into the swing of how it's laid out.

brianthebard

Its not terribly frigged or anything, I just want to not hurt it again. The 75kg front squats were surprisingly easy(well not easy exactly) and easy on the back, so we'll see how it goes. Up until recently it was sore if I lifted anything in a deadlift, rdl sort of motion, but that seems to have settled down. Thanks for the info, will definitely check that stuff out.

kevpants

Cool. There alot of info out there on it and at the start you might be wondering if you are doing it right, if you've any questions just send me a PM or start a thread, Hanley and Al Fernz use it too.