Should I Appeal, 1% away from an A

King Ludvig

I got 84% in History, 1% away from an A2. Should I appeal? I dont need more points but I worked more for History than any other subject and was aiming for an A. Should I appeal? Im I likely to go up to an A2.

Teachers' opinion welcome in particular. Thanks.

Jonathan

If you got your course then I wouldn't bother my arse.

K4t

Appeal imho. You've worked for around two years for the exam and if you think you've been marked unfairly then go for the appeal. It would be a nice thing to have, an A in LC History.

pathway33

K4t wrote: »

Appeal imho. You've worked for around two years for the exam and if you think you've been marked unfairly then go for the appeal. It would be a nice thing to have, an A in LC History.

is an A2 really an A?

jhegarty

pathway33 wrote: »

is an A2 really an A?

yes, it says so right before the 2

muffinman

pathway33 wrote: »

is an A2 really an A?

Yes..

Appeal if you feel you deserved it and the marking wasn't applied appropriately. While it may be insignificant in the greater scheme of things, bad marking shouldn't happen, and you deserve a fair result based on the work you've done

K4t

pathway33 wrote: »

is an A2 really an A?

:rolleyes:

jhegarty wrote: »

yes, it says so right before the 2

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Ginja Ninja

pathway33 wrote: »

is an A2 really an A?

well its not a B

OP i would if its important to you i mean they cant drop you THAT far down in a recheck they usually go up i believe

pathway33

jhegarty wrote: »

yes, it says so right before the 2

i suppose the 2 means 'looks like you're not as perfect as you thought'

btw definiitely appeal.....it will nag you till your deathbed

pathway33

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

well its not a B

OP i would if its important to you i mean they cant drop you THAT far down in a recheck they usually go up i believe

if its not really an A and not a B then it must be nothing

like finishing 4th in the olympics

colly10

If it really bothers you then appeal, once you get your course though, how you got on in the LC becomes irrelevent. Ye won't loose marks anyway.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

pathway33 wrote: »

if its not really an A and not a B then it must be nothing

like finishing 4th in the olympics

It's the Leaving Cert. It's like finish 4th in the special olympics.

spurious

King Ludvig wrote: »

Teachers' opinion welcome in particular. Thanks.

This teacher says unless it makes a difference for your course leave it be. Thank your lucky stars you got an A2, there are plenty kids in the country who try their absolute best and get a D3 in Ordinary Level and are thrilled with it.

YOU know you did enough work for/deserved/should have got an A1. Part of being an adult is knowing these things and not needing a big sticker or badge to say so.

In a few years, nobody will care what you got in your Leaving. It doesn't mean a lot really, in the overall scale of things.

pathway33

spurious wrote: »

This teacher says unless it makes a difference for your course leave it be. Thank your lucky stars you got an A2, there are plenty kids in the country who try their absolute best and get a D3 in Ordinary Level and are thrilled with it.

YOU know you did enough work for/deserved/should have got an A1. Part of being an adult is knowing these things and not needing a big sticker or badge to say so.

In a few years, nobody will care what you got in your Leaving. It doesn't mean a lot really, in the overall scale of things.

doesn't matter if the whole world doesn't care, if OP cares then defintely appeal......part of being an adult is listening to your own heart and mind and not being influenced by the posse.

p.s please read the OP properly

K4t

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

It's the Leaving Cert. It's like finish 4th in the special olympics.

Although if you fail the LC, you're not really a 'winner' are you?

p.s. I can't believe this has turned into a debate/argument. :eek:

pathway33

K4t wrote: »

Although if you fail the LC, you're not really a 'winner' are you?

p.s. I can't believe this has turned into a debate/argument. :eek:

yeah it was a simple enough question ..... say it might get pretty nasty

KatCookie

Go for it, if they realise that you are 1% away from an A2 then they might search for that extra couple of marks, the people who mark the papers arent going to disturb their quotas by bringing you down(they do have quotas, people say they dont but they do!)
It will only matter to you in the end, but if you worked hard and feel you are justified the A2 then just do it. You wouldnt do down enough to lose your points if you are just 1% away from an A2!!

muffinman

spurious wrote: »

Thank your lucky stars you got an A2, there are plenty kids in the country who try their absolute best and get a D3 in Ordinary Level and are thrilled with it.

That's totally irrelevant.. Some people are delighted with a D3 because they feel that their work has paid off, they got what they deserve, and fair play to them.. For many, it's a great achievement.. However, others could be very disappointed with a B1 or A2, as they felt that they have not got what they deserve and that their work hasn't been sufficiently rewarded... So if you felt you deserved a higher grade, then you shouldn't "thank your lucky stars"

pathway33

KatCookie wrote: »

Go for it, if they realise that you are 1% away from an A2 then they might search for that extra couple of marks, the people who mark the papers arent going to disturb their quotas by bringing you down(they do have quotas, people say they dont but they do!)
It will only matter to you in the end, but if you worked hard and feel you are justified the A2 then just do it. You wouldnt do down enough to lose your points if you are just 1% away from an A2!!

if no quotas are going to be disturbed then nobody would ever be moved up or down on appeal......money making racket

spurious

There are no quotas.

muffinman

pathway33 wrote: »

money making racket

lol

Alanstrainor

You got your course. Why bother?

Jonathan

Your leaving certificate results are important for 5 days. From the wednesday that they come out to the monday that the cao comes out.

After that nobody cares what you got.

K4t

jmccrohan wrote: »

Your leaving certificate results are important for 5 days. From the wednesday that they come out to the monday that the cao comes out.

After that nobody cares what you got.

Here at Boards.ie, we care.

:pac:

pathway33

spurious wrote: »

There are no quotas.

so its just coincidence that completely different students in completely different years answering completely different questions get very close to the same grades ...... yeah theres no quotas :rolleyes:

K4t

pathway33 wrote: »

so its just coincidence that completely different students in completely different years answering completely different questions get very close to the same grades ...... yeah theres no quotas :rolleyes:

Complete and absolute rubbish.

KatCookie

pathway33 wrote: »

if no quotas are going to be disturbed then nobody would ever be moved up or down on appeal......money making racket

Well, it made sense when my teacher said it in class.My teacher is ancient and goes to that conference thingy every year

spurious wrote: »

There are no quotas.

i dont want to get into an argument, but when the Chief Examiners report comes out every year and they document the grades and percentages of people who sat that exam, and they compare it to the last few years, why is it that the results are always so similar? Ive seen a few examiners reports from www.Examinations.ie It seems too conincidental to have the results all the same...
and i do realise that they look at a sample of all the papers and then change the marking scheme, Its not just thought up, written down and set it stone for that year

pathway33

K4t wrote: »

Complete and absolute rubbish.

if you're disagreeing with me check out the percentages getting each points bracket every year on www.cao.ie

if you're agreeing with me i love you

spurious

pathway33 wrote: »

if you're disagreeing with me check out the percentages getting each points bracket every year on www.cao.ie

That is NOT the same as having quotas.
I will leave it to someone who understands the whole area of statistics to explain.

There are no quotas.

pathway33

KatCookie wrote: »

Well, it made sense when my teacher said it in class.My teacher is ancient and goes to that conference thingy every year



i dont want to get into an argument, but when the Chief Examiners report comes out every year and they document the grades and percentages of people who sat that exam, and they compare it to the last few years, why is it that the results are always so similar? Ive seen a few examiners reports from www.Examinations.ie It seems too conincidental to have the results all the same...

you're already in an argument and the only way out is reverse gear

pathway33

spurious wrote: »

That is NOT the same as having quotas.
I will leave it to someone who understands the whole area of statistics to explain.

There are no quotas.

no....i want you to explain statistics......i want a 4 page essay here in the morning

yeah the law of averages and the numbers involved 50,000+ says they will be roughly the same percentages but when you look at individual subjects like this years accounting which a lot of people found rock hard - will the percentage of grades be the same as previous years? i'd say so

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King Ludvig wrote: »

I got 84% in History, 1% away from an A2. Should I appeal? I dont need more points but I worked more for History than any other subject and was aiming for an A. Should I appeal? Im I likely to go up to an A2.

Teachers' opinion welcome in particular. Thanks.

There's a chance of your marks going down. But if your points are safe above the level needed for your subject than I would say why not.

Mars Bar

I had two different markings in my history script. One was in red pen and the other in green pen...does this mean that mine was picked outta the bag first and then checked again...Coz thank God for that second check, your wan with the red pen was taking marks off me left right and centre!

KatCookie

pathway33 wrote: »

you're already in an argument and the only way out is reverse gear

There wasnt an argument here when i started writing the post..
and i have no reverse gear.. just plough through or go throught every post and knock it down til it doesnt have a leg to stand on!!
there are quotas in the sense that if there are too few A's they will need to go through the B Papers to bring up the amount of A's and the opposite too..

MathsManiac

mars bar wrote: »

I had two different markings in my history script. One was in red pen and the other in green pen...does this mean that mine was picked outta the bag first and then checked again...Coz thank God for that second check, your wan with the red pen was taking marks off me left right and centre!

Red pen is the assistant examiner (the people who do most of the marking). Green pen is the advising examiner (the more experienced people who monitor the assistants and make sure they are on standard).

A script marked in green pen as well as red is therefore more likely to have been marked accurately, as it has been monitored by the advising examiner. it is therefore less likely to change on appeal.

spurious

The red pen is the original corrector, the green is their advising examiner (usually someone who has corrected for years at many levels).

Your script could have been sent to the AE as part of the random sample of 20, or in a selection from one of the groups of 100s, or the original corrector may have wanted guidance on how he/she was correcting. Either way, it sounds like it worked out well for you.

pathway33

mars bar wrote: »

I had two different markings in my history script. One was in red pen and the other in green pen...does this mean that mine was picked outta the bag first and then checked again...Coz thank God for that second check, your wan with the red pen was taking marks off me left right and centre!

if thats the case then surely all your history classmates should view their scripts and if theres no green ink then appeal like crazy

sounds like you were pulled out of the bag unless it was the one marker and red just made them real angry and green made them normal

pathway33

KatCookie wrote: »

There wasnt an argument here when i started writing the post..
and i have no reverse gear.. just plough through or go throught every post and knock it down til it doesnt have a leg to stand on!!
there are quotas in the sense that if there are too few A's they will need to go through the B Papers to bring up the amount of A's and the opposite too..

sounds like you're sitting on the fence.....in my book that's reverse gear.......you lose.....go to bed and remember your defeat in the morning

Woden

jmccrohan wrote: »

Your leaving certificate results are important for 5 days. From the wednesday that they come out to the monday that the cao comes out.

After that nobody cares what you got.

I thought this would be the case too I have to say and when I started to apply for jobs after college I had removed the leaving cert results from my CV at the time. I ended up putting them back on after a few queries about it. I was suprised at the level of interest but I suppose its a benchmark state exam /shrug

KatCookie

pathway33 wrote: »

sounds like you're sitting on the fence.....in my book that's reverse gear.......you lose.....go to bed and remember your defeat in the morning

No, its not its what i meant when i said quotas, and its only a slight difference in my opinion!
and yes, i am on the fence as i havent had a script sent back, but in this case i would tell the OP to get it rechecked!!

Daysha

I got my course, yet I'm still getting two, maybe three rechecked.

Why? Because I'm still unhappy with my overall LC results. As far as I'm concerned, I set myself a target at the start of the year of certain grades in certain subjects and for the majority of them I failed to reach that target. That why I'm rechecking them, because I still feel I should have done better.

The fact that I already received my first choice has absolutely **** all to do with that.

pathway33

KatCookie wrote: »

No, its not its what i meant when i said quotas, and its only a slight difference in my opinion!
and yes, i am on the fence as i havent had a script sent back, but in this case i would tell the OP to get it rechecked!!

oooouuuukkkkaaayyy......crystal clear

Jonathan

deise59 wrote: »

I got my course, yet I'm still getting two, maybe three rechecked.

Why? Because I'm still unhappy with my overall LC results. As far as I'm concerned, I set myself a target at the start of the year of certain grades in certain subjects and for the majority of them I failed to reach that target. That why I'm rechecking them, because I still feel I should have done better.

The fact that I already received my first choice has absolutely **** all to do with that.

To me that means you have to work harder next time.

KatCookie

oooouuuukkkkaaayyy......crystal clear

Ah stop that!
i know what your up to!

pathway33

KatCookie wrote: »

Ah stop that!
i know what your up to!

see you make less mistakes with simple sentences

KatCookie

pathway33 wrote: »

see you make less mistakes with simple sentences

Stop.Going.Off. Topic

Short enough for you?

pathway33

KatCookie wrote: »

Stop.Going.Off. Topic

Short enough for you?

yes short and sweet.

i don't think a lesson in pwoper english can be considered off topic

maybe if OP had used shorter to the point sentences they might have got an A1....Very on topic i'd say

Phototoxin

if you care enough to post here then do it. history is a bitch of an exam anyway plus even if they do mark you down its not going to be enough to drop your grade. All you may loose is your recheck fee. DOOO ITTT!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Out of curiosity, how much does a recheck cost?

Carsinian Thau

King Ludvig wrote: »

I got 84% in History, 1% away from an A2. Should I appeal? I dont need more points but I worked more for History than any other subject and was aiming for an A. Should I appeal? Im I likely to go up to an A2.

Teachers' opinion welcome in particular. Thanks.

Might as well go for it. You won't lose the B1 (or at least it'd be very surprising if you did).

On the other hand, you don't need it and by the time you get the result back, you won't care about it anymore.

Carsinian Thau

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Out of curiosity, how much does a recheck cost?

I think it's about €37.50 per subject (refunded if you get awarded a higher grade) but I may be wrong about that.