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Boycott of the Khan PPV event

  • 27-08-2008 9:14am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭


    I think SKY are really ripping boxing fans off and we need to do something about it.

    So a petition has been started if you want to sign it then the link is at the bottom.

    "In light of AMIR KHAN vs Precott on Sky Box Office, this is a petition to urge SKY BOX OFFICE, Frank Warren and Amir Khan to stop taking gross advantage of UK loyal and dedicated boxing fans by charging premium prices for wholly low grade services including:

    Non (recognized) World Title/Unification or Superfights on Pay-per-view
    Litany of Commercials especially during the fights and BETWEEN ROUNDS which we consider part of the fight.
    Abysmal undercards & poor replacements for pull outs/injuries.
    Low Technical and Picture Quality, ie Hatton vs Collazo shown in High Definition in US free to cable subscribers and yet not even in Widescreen (let alone HD) in the UK at premium prices. Boxing is also not widely shown in HD on Sky proving it is a lower priority than Soccer Rugbys Golf WWE AND NFL. Despite this the fans are expected to pay premiums money on top of sky boxes installation and sport subscriptions.

    You are ruining the credibility of our sport and taking advantage of YOUR CUSTOMERS."


    http://www.petitiononline.com/skyboxo/petition.html

    Will you be buying the Khan PPV 69 votes

    Yes
    0%
    No
    2%
    zAbboyeah-buddy 2 votes
    Maybe
    97%
    [Deleted User]IllkillyaStokolansuper_furryDermoShevYvorbisefbBig Earsraven136yom 1dlofneptheoneevad_lhorgCall Me JimmyWillymuncheramacachiAaron Mmark3105Chicky 67 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭sston


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    Warren's taking the piss with this one. No way am I shelling out for it and I don't think too many genuine boxing fans will either. I just hope the Sky hype machine doesn't dupe the general public into buying into it becuase if this is a disaster then at least if all the Khan's are going to be PPV they might at least consider putting him in with worthy opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I will not be paying to see Kahn fight some scrub and anyone who does is an idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


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    T-K-O wrote: »
    I will not be paying to see Kahn fight some scrub and anyone who does is an idiot.

    COULDN'T AGREE MORE. Its f**king ridiculous. where's the world title opponents or at least a good opponent..

    not somebody ranked 127th in the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Did sky not show Cotto or Margarito fight for free a few months back - now they expect ppl to pay for this crap.


    The numbers will be awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


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    T-K-O wrote: »
    Did sky not show Cotto or Margarito fight for free a few months back - now they expect ppl to pay for this crap.


    The numbers will be awful.

    Aas far as I can remember they did on SS Xtra / SS 3

    They're banking on the UK loyals to buy it. Hope the turn out is ****e. Either force him to fight someone worth fightijng or show the fight for free.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    This could back fire on Warren, if the numbers are bad and he is signed into a massive sky deal, that deal will no doubt have conditions. He may be forced to fight a decent fighter sooner rather than later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


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    T-K-O wrote: »
    This could back fire on Warren, if the numbers are bad and he is signed into a massive sky deal, that deal will no doubt have conditions. He may be forced to fight a decent fighter sooner rather than later.


    Yeah. might actually see a world title fight. or see someone beat him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    unreal, there's no way I'd pay to watch that or any Khan fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


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    I'm a boxing fan, like I'de watch any boxing that's on TV but I would never pay for this. The channel's called box office ffs... really taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


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    I'm a boxing fan, like I'de watch any boxing that's on TV but I would never pay for this. The channel's called box office ffs... really taking the piss.

    I'm with you on that. I'm not paying €25 for something that I know will last 3 or 4 rounds at most.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


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    Big Steve wrote: »
    I'm with you on that. I'm not paying €25 for something that I know will last 3 or 4 rounds at most.

    we'll I am actually going to the fight but if I wasnt I wouldnt buy it.

    But I say that sober - would I buckle on the day? I really hope not - if people buckle they will be trying this on for every two bit fight!

    I think SKY think that they will drag a fair proportion of +£6m ITV viewers that watched the Gomez fight over to SKY - far enough the asain community over here are behind but I really hope this falls flat on its face


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


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    LOL @ buy.

    I'm not even going to waste my bandwidth and pirate this!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭03mcgs0


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    No way would i pay to watch Khan at this stage of his career, he's not even fighting for proper titles yet but Warren and co are demanding PPV prices.

    I'm very interested in Khan's career but having to pay to watch his fights when Warren never gets him a decent fight is a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭theone


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    Can't believe this is on box office,maybe they've done their research and it will get numbers but if you have any sort of interest in boxing you'd be mad to buy this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭fatgav


    what use is a petition going to do? khan has name reconition. if one in ten of those who watched him on ITV buy the fight then SKY will make a nice profit out of it. the move has been made. no petition will stop it being on SBO. I won't buy it, I'll find it online. but I'm not going to sign a petition against it when there are far greater travesties to be worrying about!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    dlofnep wrote: »
    LOL @ buy.

    I'm not even going to waste my bandwidth and pirate this!

    Well I think the undercard just about justifies the bandwidth :D

    It's not that bad a card to go and see, but I wouldn't even contemplate buying it.

    Khan v little known Colombian(Breidis Prescott)-WBO Interbauble title
    Alex Arthur v Nicky Cook- WBO Super-Featherweight title
    Stephen Foster v Femi Fehintola- English Super-featherweight title
    Stephen Bendall v Paul Smith- English Middleweight title
    Michael Jennings v TBA
    Audley Harrison v TBA
    Stephen Smith v TBA
    Tony Bellew v TBA
    Denton Vassell v TBA
    Anthony Crolla v TBA
    Derry Macklin v TBA
    Joe Selkirk v TBA

    So that's 12 fights, 2 of them should be very competitive, that's Arthur v Cook and Bendall v Smith. Depending which Foster turns up the Fehintola fight could be a good competitive scrap or an east enough stoppage win but it'll be good value either way.

    The Khan fight will be a miss match but meh.

    Stephen Smith is a very promising prospect, one to keep an eye out for if you're going, I always like to watch Michael Jennings fight but he's not everyones taste. You can always go for a piss during the Audley fight so no problem there.

    Bellew and Crolla and normally good to watch even though I'm guessing Crolla will be in with a scrub after losing to Al Hamidi.

    So this card represents some value to go and see. But the ppv will probably consist of those top 4 fights plus Audley and maybe Jennings and if you're thinking of shedding €22.50 for that I'd ask you to seriously reconsider.
    Watch it on a stream if you can or download it the next day(nobody post links here or you'll be banned), or wait the week and watch it on the BBC.

    But whatever you do, don't waste your money and buy this, you'll save yourself money and it might teach Sky something.


    Edit: nearly forgot, we've actually got a real good card from America that night which I don't think is being covered by any of the UK channels.

    Juan Diaz v Michael Katsidis-IBO Lightweight title
    Jorge Barrios v Rocky Juarez
    Jesus Chavez v TBA

    That's two cracking fights headlining it, the main event is a potential fight of the year. Although it will find it hard to surpass Vasquez v Marquez III.

    Great to see Jesus Chavez coming back aswell, I say his first fight back since the knee injury and in truth he looked nowhere near right. But he was a fantastic fighter in his time and was vastly underated. He gave Mayweather a really, really tough bout(it's on youtube, and it's a cracking bout too), and gave Morales a great fight despite being only able to use one arm from the second round onward.
    He's a two weight World title holder, and I really hope the poor performance against Jimenez was just ring rust and settling back into things after the injury.

    Anyway that's a fairly major tangent, but just pointing out that we've quite a bit of decent boxing that night. It's the same night as the Hyland's card aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


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    This would be the equivalent of paying for a John Duddy fight against a nobody in the Kings Hall, couldn't see myself shelling out for that either. In fairness to RTE they would show every fight if they could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    I've found a video of our friend Mr.Prescott
    Haven't had a chance to watch it all yet but it looks like he's very open to straight right hands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Mazletov


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    The Arthur vs. Cook fight is the more appealing of the two major fights of the night. Prescott is a perfect opponent for Khan - a nobody with an unbeaten record consisting of knock outs of bums in his own country. Khan will win and it will push him up the rankings...the reward is big and the risk is small. I am not going to buy this, I have Setanta and they show most of the big fights anyway. Its not like there's no talented opponents out there for Khan, this is Warren protecting him and hoping to make a bit of money in the process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


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    Sky charge high rates for sky, then more for the sports and then have the cheek to charge ppv for this tripe! and then show adverts through it also!

    get a grip sky, im certainly not paying to see this..

    petition signed.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


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    Big Ears wrote: »
    Watch it on a stream if you can or download it the next day(nobody post links here or you'll be banned), or wait the week and watch it on the BBC.

    I know it looks self explanatory but just to clarify: If there is a big fight on in say the states but no tv coverage in Ireland/UK tv. You will get a ban for posting a link to a live stream? or
    Just wanted to clarify as Im pretty sure ive seen a few before and wouldnt have thought twice about posting one.

    Regarding Khan ppv... no way, unless he is in a competitive fight. He's entertaining and im sure the ppv will go reasonably well but didnt see that coming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


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    fatgav wrote: »
    what use is a petition going to do? khan has name reconition. if one in ten of those who watched him on ITV buy the fight then SKY will make a nice profit out of it. the move has been made. no petition will stop it being on SBO. I won't buy it, I'll find it online. but I'm not going to sign a petition against it when there are far greater travesties to be worrying about!

    pretty crap attitude tbh mate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    joepenguin wrote: »
    I know it looks self explanatory but just to clarify: If there is a big fight on in say the states but no tv coverage in Ireland/UK tv. You will get a ban for posting a link to a live stream? or
    Just wanted to clarify as Im pretty sure ive seen a few before and wouldnt have thought twice about posting one.

    Regarding Khan ppv... no way, unless he is in a competitive fight. He's entertaining and im sure the ppv will go reasonably well but didnt see that coming.

    No links to downloads, links to streams are okay seeing as there are plenty of legal streams out there and how am I meant to distinguish between legal and illegal streams........ :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭fatgav


    pretty crap attitude tbh mate!

    explain please sligobhoy. don't mean this in an antagonistic way, just wondering why my attitude is crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    I'd never pay for a PPV, the idea of buying one does not compute with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB


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    What a great oppurtunity for Setanta to pull one over on SKY and confirm their place as the Real Home of Boxing !

    They could have wiped out the PPV by advertising to air Juan Diaz vs. Mick Katsidis which happens later tht night.
    Also is Rocky Juarez and Jorge Barrios.

    But the Diaz v Katsidis match could be a fight of the year canditate !!!!!

    Dont be surprised if Setanta do a late deal here to show the Baby Bull on the night of sat 6th Sept !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


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    ODD-JOB wrote: »

    They could have wiped out the PPV by advertising to air Juan Diaz vs. Mick Katsidis which happens later tht night.

    Pity it wasnt happening at the same time in the evening, that would definitely be a big blow. Even if Rendall Munroe was on ITV instead of sky they could have pushed this forward a night http://www.boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=558503 but its on skys friday fight night i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Sky are a joke - have you see the build up to this fight already. It's ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


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    Sky have got away with it for years. They put Eubank and Hamed in with mugs and charged premium rates. Is it any wonder Hamed lost the hunger to fight but then again calling young fighters legends who have not proved themselves has made a mockery of the sport. Boxing has always been hyped but Sky over the last ten years or so have taken it to ridiculous levels.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    To be fair Eubank was an establish champion and so was hamed if I remember correctly. Both guys entertained on ITV for many years.

    Khan is a nobody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


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    To be honest TKO if I want to watch a PPV fight I want a fight where the two boxers have an equal chance of winning and the fight is a genuine title fight. Sky sold Hamed and Eubank as legends early in their careers with fights that were not worth PPV. With the money they threw at Hamed no wonder he lost the hunger. Early on he was great but never fulfilled it. Now they are doing the same to Khan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    rednik wrote: »
    To be honest TKO if I want to watch a PPV fight I want a fight where the two boxers have an equal chance of winning and the fight is a genuine title fight. Sky sold Hamed and Eubank as legends early in their careers with fights that were not worth PPV. With the money they threw at Hamed no wonder he lost the hunger. Early on he was great but never fulfilled it. Now they are doing the same to Khan.


    I agree PPV should be reserved for champions - but I'll disagree about Eubank, he well established himself in ITV.

    The way sky are hyping Khan is a joke and IMO is worse than anything gone before it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Judomad


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    T-K-O wrote: »
    I agree PPV should be reserved for champions - but I'll disagree about Eubank, he well established himself in ITV.

    The way sky are hyping Khan is a joke and IMO is worse than anything gone before it.

    never mind the kahn hype, how bad is the bigging up of prescott, hes 127th in the world yet there making him out to be muhammed ali


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


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    They are just jumping on the bandwagon of boxing success in Britain. With Hatton and Calzaghe filling out stadiums, they figure they can sell any old sh*te to the British public and get away with it. They won't buy it. I'm sure of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    dlofnep wrote: »
    They are just jumping on the bandwagon of boxing success in Britain. With Hatton and Calzaghe filling out stadiums, they figure they can sell any old sh*te to the British public and get away with it. They won't buy it. I'm sure of it.

    Khan has a big enough following with a certain demograph of the 'general public' in Britain that they will buy it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭Batesy


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    Does anyone see an upset on the cards? I've never been that impressed with Khan.

    I think Arthur will be beaten tonight too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


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    Big Ears wrote: »
    Khan has a big enough following with a certain demograph of the 'general public' in Britain that they will buy it.

    do you mean the asain community or the 'mums that watch the olympics'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


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    I love the way every presenter on Sky is billing it as "a huge step up" and making it out like this Prescott fella is one of the most dangerous and highly rated fighters on the planet.


    I think its clearly aimed at people who know absolutely nothing about the sport and I think thats a real shame and Sky have let themselves down. Its not clever business....its the boxing fans who are going to be there fight after fight and interested in bouts that dont involve Hatton, Kahn or Calzaghe. Setanta have copped onto this, Sky clearly have not.


    Cant believe even one person on here is going to pay for this:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    do you mean the asain community or the 'mums that watch the olympics'?

    Asian community, the Mums don't even know he's fighting.
    Khan has managed to attract quite a big following with the Asian community where thousands of people who are not boxing fans will pay to watch him.
    I suppose it's the same as Ricky Hatton and Man Ciy fans but of course by this stage Hatton has most of the country interested in him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


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    Hands up who bought the ppv? Id say it will do moderatley well. I didnt get it but must admit I was a little tempted because Khans fights are always good to watch. Its just the principle! He should be on ITV for a few more fights at least.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


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    my mate did and is embarrased after i lashed him for it!!

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


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    I didn't buy it but i will be watching it! ;)

    There was no option for that:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    Khan knocked out in 42 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It was like Dunne vs Martinez all over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    ROFL :D:D:D:D

    I'm gonna go off to British forums now to get posters who gave me hassle over Dunne .

    BTW Walshb, guess I was right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭BobbyD10


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    Wow...impressive...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭Batesy


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    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Had €20 double Cook and Prescott. Over €500 back. Get in. Told you Khan was a DUD!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    "Yeah, well, it ain't going to be me"

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    i'm shocked, we all know he has been fighting no bodys, but he has now been well beaten by a 'somebody'

    hope you all kept your word and none of you paid to watch that

    :eek:

    still slightly shocked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


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    irish-stew wrote: »
    i'm shocked, we all know he has been fighting no bodys, but he has now been well beaten by a 'somebody'

    hope you all kept your word and none of you paid to watch that

    :eek:

    still slightly shocked

    I kept telling anyone that would listen that Willie Limond was still the best fighter he had faced, and that all of his fights since then had been a step down.

    I wouldn't necessarily call Prescott a 'somebody' but he did show tonight he's not a nobody. He looked quite average against Richard Abril though, I think we could just have a case of Kiko Martinez mark II .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    irish-stew wrote: »
    watching that prescott was definatly a step up though, still slightly shocked, although watching it (didn't pay for it my self), kahn looked a little nervous going in, reakon thats the new trainer gone, a title fight, a long long way off now, and as for the new sky deal, i wonder whats the future for that

    kahn has been given, in my opnion, has been given too many easy fights in the past, and has been fully exposed tonight, listening to 5 live at the mo, and the opinion is, that kahn as not been managed properly, and warren has lost some of the management control to kahns team, corner men, etc, but on the other hand, maybe this lose can be a lesson, on what he has to work on, and also a wake up call, for him and his team,

    this is not meant to slate him, as i feel for the guy, been cheering him on since that olympic medal, but sometimes you have to lose, before you can go foward, you need that expeerince, and hopefully tonight can be a valuable learning curve and worked on

    you can't work on a glass jaw. no matter what he does there will be a huge risk everytime he steps into the ring against someone with any sort of power.
    The sign were there from the Limond fight. Limond is a guy with no power and yet he managed to put Khan on the canvas.
    The difference tonight being Khan didn't get back up off the canvas because Prescott had decent power compared to Limond.


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