Meteor Internet 50mb 99c a day

Fresh Pots

looks like meteor have jumped on the band wagon and are now offering 50mb for 99c a day. They say you don't need to subscribe so does that mean i will be charged 99c if i send one text from cabbage?

dubber

lonely_soldier wrote: »

looks like meteor have jumped on the band wagon and are now offering 50mb for 99c a day. They say you don't need to subscribe so does that mean i will be charged 99c if i send one text from cabbage?

Thinks it's the old kb rate but capped at 99c up to 50MB.

Fresh Pots

ah yes so it is. got a bit confused when i read it first.

Cick here read more about it

Sam Vimes

NNNOOOOOOOOOOO

i went to a focus group where they asked us how we were doing with the 3g trial and what we'd like to see after it. myself and several others said that the 99c a day thing was crap and we wanted anything but that. they paid for a focus group and gave each of us €50 and then didn't listen to us :mad:

Ron DMC

Yeah, I was at one of them focus groups also. Wasn't happy about the 99c a day business and said as much.

The price plan basically looks like this:

1kb - 50kb = 2c per kb Very few people will fall into this category and be charged less than 99c. Maybe if you send just a few texts on Cabbage and browse one or two mobile/text based sites.

50kb - 50mb = 99c This is the category where most people will fall into, any normal web-page browsing, a small image or two and you're in the 99c bracket already. Remember, this works out as the guts of 30quid per month if you browse daily.

50mb+ = (99c + 2c per kb) Unlikely most normal users will ever go over this, unless they are constantly on Youtube or using their phone as a modem. You'd want to browse normally for 40 minutes to an hour a day to get anywhere near to passing the 50mb.

Jonathan

:-(

Jonathan

Sam Vimes wrote: »

i went to a focus group where they asked us how we were doing with the 3g trial and what we'd like to see after it. myself and several others said that the 99c a day thing was crap and we wanted anything but that. they paid for a focus group and gave each of us €50 and then didn't listen to us :mad:

Speaking of which I got another call from yer one today asking me to go to others



EDIT: they better not get rid of isp access (0.5c/kb) or im gonna go apeshít.

Fresh Pots

It seems to me as much as the operators are giving us better deals these days there also screwing us on the other hand. Like with this, looks great but probably will end up costing you more in the long run. The meteor choice price plan is another one, only good if you top-up €20 a month, otherwise you get screwed with way calls and texts charges. What happened to the days with 9c calls. Surely if they were able to do it then, they would be able to afford it now.

long_b

Ah bollix.

cormie

Wait, I'm not sure, what exactly is bad about this? Doesn't it mean I'll be able to get a meteor sim card and put it in my SE phone, use the phone as a modem on my laptop and get 50MB of data a day for 99c? This was my original plan with VodaFone, but only realised after that they restrict it to VodaFone live so you can't actually do anything with it on the laptop. Is this different? Can you browse anything online through a laptop? And if so, why is it a big NOOOOOOOOOO?

Jonathan

cormie wrote: »

And if so, why is it a big NOOOOOOOOOO?

Look at the price of it!!!!!

You can pay €29.70 per month for only 1.5MB of data.

cormie

How much would that usually cost though? For what I want it for it's very good though. You can basically get mobile broadband for €4 a year, if you only use it for 4 days in that year and that'll give you 200MB. Cheapest other options for such a thing at the moment is €7.50 a month with o2, or €10 with three. But you have to pay that every month, so we're talking €4 compared to at least €90 from others.

Jonathan

cormie wrote: »

How much would that usually cost though? For what I want it for it's very good though. You can basically get mobile broadband for €4 a year, if you only use it for 4 days in that year and that'll give you 200MB. Cheapest other options for such a thing at the moment is €7.50 a month with o2, or €10 with three. But you have to pay that every month, so we're talking €4 compared to at least €90 from others.

You are precisely the stereotypical user they are trying to market this product at.

In doing so, they have made it totally unreasonable for the user who will browse only about 250kb daily.

cormie

Yeah that's unfortunate. Is there no other option for folk who would be using the likes of cabbage then?

So it's great for the likes of me, but terrible for the likes of Charlie down the road who uses cabbage every day to send 51kb of texts?

Jonathan

cormie wrote: »

Yeah that's unfortunate. Is there no other option for folk who would be using the likes of cabbage then?

So it's great for the likes of me, but terrible for the likes of Charlie down the road who uses cabbage every day to send 51kb of texts?

A data package would have sorted these people out. Meteor would have been happy too cause these people would still give them a fixed amount of money each month, rather than nothing which will be the case with me, as it is just too expensive.

*HINT HINT METEOR*

Sam Vimes

cormie wrote: »

How much would that usually cost though?

it would usually cost exactly the same as normal. the price is the normal 2c per kb up to 99c and the figure of 1.5mb of data for €29.70 assumes you use exactly 99c worth and don't save money by using more and getting a flat rate.

jmccrohan wrote: »

EDIT: they better not get rid of isp access (0.5c/kb) or im gonna go apeshít.

if so, let's head down to meteor HQ with pitchforks and torches

@ cormie, if you're using the internet a lot, you're going to be spending the 99c anyway so it'd be good but if you're not using it for anything else, hope they keep the pricing on the data access point or it'll cost more

Pyro Boy

OK so what would the best that meteor could offer? A fixed data plan per month for €10 giving you x MB ? any other suggestions...:)

1.) If you had to sign up to get this €1 a day thing and if you didn't you would still have the old rates?

long_b

I'd be happy if they just matched 3's PAYG offer, or even 500MB for a tenner a month.

Jonathan

long_b wrote: »

I'd be happy if they just matched 3's PAYG offer, or even 500MB for a tenner a month.

I would be delighted with 500MB for 10 per month.

Which 3payg offer are you talking about?

Sam Vimes

jmccrohan wrote: »

I would be delighted with 500MB for 10 per month.

Which 3payg offer are you talking about?

1gb for 10 a month

Random

Any sort of monthly monthly would beat the daily rate. It's not a fair rating. It benefits only such a small percentage. Heavy users pay €30 a month, Light users pay 99c a go, medium users who fit into the bracket that this benefits - don't think there's many.

If they've based this on current data trends by running reports on accounts and such they're way off. Why? Because usage is *generally* based on cost and had the costs been different before usage would have been much different.

Sam Vimes

meteor, i hate to say it but:

drunkmonkey

jmccrohan wrote: »

Which 3payg offer are you talking about?

Carefull JMC, this is a link to a 3 website, your head might explode:D

http://www.three.ie/priceplans/addons-3pay.htm

Well are you delighted:rolleyes:

drunkmonkey

Sam Vimes wrote: »

meteor, i hate to say it but:

And only now the penny drops;)

thehomeofDob

Wow these offers are well crap I'd do anything for 500MB for a tenner a month or something. But 30 quid for 1.5MB's?? I would use the internet on my phone lightly almost every day, and heavilly one or two days a week. Very rarely in the amound to make it worthwhile Bastards

Sam Vimes

drunkmonkey wrote: »

And only now the penny drops;)

meteor brought out a crap tariff and this tariff fails. This one bad aspect of meteor does not bring it anywhere near the level of 3. I would not go back to 3 if they took my monthly bill and then deposited that much in my account instead of withdrawing it

and the reason i wouldn't go back is the problem with 3 has nothing to do with their tariffs, it's to do with their outright failure to solve the simplest problems coupled with lies about the causes of said problems, told to avoid having to fix them

swingking

here's what they need to offer.

They charge you 1 euro to use 50 mb of data, but they let this data carry over for a maximum of 5 days.

In that way it's gonna cost you 1 euro for 5 days internet usage.

question:

What is meteor's definition of a day. If I use data at 11.59 pm, am I suddenly charged another euro and my data usage is reset??

Random

swingking wrote: »

here's what they need to offer.

They charge you 1 euro to use 50 mb of data, but they let this data carry over for a maximum of 5 days.

In that way it's gonna cost you 1 euro for 5 days internet usage.

question:

What is meteor's definition of a day. If I use data at 11.59 pm, am I suddenly charged another euro and my data usage is reset??

While that idea is better you're replacing one lump of crap with a lesser lump of crap. Ideally I wanna buy a bundle and use it til it runs out with no time frame. I shall settle for a month though.

As for their definition of a day, midnight to midnight in the case of this. So yes, browse at 2359 and pay again after 0000.

cormie

Random wrote: »

As for their definition of a day, midnight to midnight in the case of this. So yes, browse at 2359 and pay again after 0000.

This can be good in some cases too though. Browse from 00:30 to 01:30, bed at 2, wake at 10:00 and you have the whole day left to use it

Random

cormie wrote: »

This can be good in some cases too though. Browse from 00:30 to 01:30, bed at 2, wake at 10:00 and you have the whole day left to use it

I didn't say the midnight/midnight specifically is bad. The whole thing is bad in my eyes.

cormie

5 day usage for 99c would be great alright. Can't see the need for that kind of competition yet though.

Jonathan

cormie wrote: »

This can be good in some cases too though. Browse from 00:30 to 01:30, bed at 2, wake at 10:00 and you have the whole day left to use it

I would only use this when out and about. I have wifi access on my phone when at home.

long_b

Sucks for commuting - that's when I (and many others too I'd say) do most of me browsing.

They picked the wrong network to cog their tarriffs off

Jonathan

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Carefull JMC, this is a link to a 3 website, your head might explode:D

http://www.three.ie/priceplans/addons-3pay.htm

Well are you delighted:rolleyes:

Thanks for the heads up drunkmonkey.. Just updated the adblock filter to include the whole site.

Jonathan

long_b wrote: »

Sucks for commuting - that's when I (and many others too I'd say) do most of me browsing.

They picked the wrong network to cog their tarriffs off

Yup. I've stopped listening to music on the way to work... I just browse

Jiggs

Why does this offer suck?
Now people can browse the web comfortably without fear of being charged 10-20 even 30 euro a go. Non mobile sites can be browsed. Does O2 offer this? For pay as you go.
Im in the process of switching to O2 because i wanted mobile internet on my winmobile phone, and the 7.50 a month for 250mb seemed a good offer. But 99c for the day seems pretty good to, since i wouldnt use it every day anyways.

Jonathan

Jiggs wrote: »

Why does this offer suck?
Now people can browse the web comfortably without fear of being charged 10-20 even 30 euro a go. Non mobile sites can be browsed. Does O2 offer this? For pay as you go.
Im in the process of switching to O2 because i wanted mobile internet on my winmobile phone, and the 7.50 a month for 250mb seemed a good offer. But 99c for the day seems pretty good to, since i wouldnt use it every day anyways.

Eh just look at the prices and you'll soon see:

Data|price (euro)
1 KB| € 0.02
5 KB | € 0.10
10 KB | € 0.20
15 KB | € 0.30
20 KB | € 0.40
25 KB | € 0.50
50 KB | € 0.99
1 MB | € 0.99
10 MB | € 0.99
20 MB | € 0.99
30 MB | € 0.99
40 MB | € 0.99
50 MB | € 0.99
60 MB | € 205.79
70 MB | € 410.59
80 MB | € 615.39
90 MB | € 820.19
100 MB | € 1,024.99

The google.ie homepage (html not mobile version) is 10KB. If you load this 10 times, you are up to 99c.

If you go over your 50MB by a mear 10MB (a youtube video size amount) the cost shoots up to €205.79 for 60MB of data.


I have attached a graph as well. Just look at the how steeply the graph rises for areas outside the 99c region.

Jiggs

i agree that its expensive, but i meant in terms of irish standards, as well as pay as you go standards. Ive not seen anything better, but i may not have looked well enough. Is there any other way to get 50mb for 99c on pay as you go? As you pointed out, it costs 200euro got 10mb. so 50mb for 99c seems really good to me.

cormie

What price is it now for 1kb though as anything up to 49kb is still at 2c per kb, then the next 49mb are basically free. This is PAYG (I think??) so if you go from 50-60MB, and only have €5 on your sim card, you'll only make it a bit past 50MB anyway before running out of credit. Doubt many people would have €205 credit

long_b

Jiggs wrote: »

Im in the process of switching to O2 because i wanted mobile internet on my winmobile phone, and the 7.50 a month for 250mb seemed a good offer.

I thought this was only available on O2 bill ?

But 99c for the day seems pretty good to, since i wouldnt use it every day anyways.

That's it in a nutshell really, great for people who don't really use it

Sam Vimes

Jiggs wrote: »

i agree that its expensive, but i meant in terms of irish standards, as well as pay as you go standards. Ive not seen anything better, but i may not have looked well enough. Is there any other way to get 50mb for 99c on pay as you go? As you pointed out, it costs 200euro got 10mb. so 50mb for 99c seems really good to me.

oh it is better than it was but it's better in that eating normal shit is better than eating diarrhea

there is another way you can get 50mb for 99c, they copied vodafone's deal exactly

3 offer 1gb for 10 euro flat rate for a month. That's a million times better than this offer. With the meteor offer i'm going to be running around looking for wifi spots (my phone has wifi) because i don't want to use that all important first 50 kb by doing a single google search

this rate discourages me from using it where a flat rate has me using it all day


would you be willing to say 29.70 a month for doing 1 google search a day?

Mitch Connor

Sam Vimes wrote: »

oh it is better than it was but it's better in that eating normal shit is better than eating diarrhea

there is another way you can get 50mb for 99c, they copied vodafone's deal exactly

3 offer 1gb for 10 euro flat rate for a month. That's a million times better than this offer. With the meteor offer i'm going to be running around looking for wifi spots (my phone has wifi) because i don't want to use that all important first 50 kb by doing a single google search

this rate discourages me from using it where a flat rate has me using it all day


would you be willing to say 29.70 a month for doing 1 google search a day?

50MB per day. Not KB. MASSIVE difference. 1.5GB per month for 29.70.

Sam Vimes

Tauren wrote: »

50MB per day. Not KB. MASSIVE difference. 1.5GB per month for 29.70.

i know it's 50mb a day but if you look at the prices above you'll see that 50kb costs exactly the same as 50mb

it's possible to spend 29.70 for 1.5mb of data, ie 1 google search a day

Cabaal

30e if I wanted to use data on my mobile for everyday of a month, ffs!
Bollox even if all I wanted to do was check one e-mail out,

99c per week for 50MB would have done the job much better

I've loved Meteor upto now but I think this new data charge model has broke the camels back and I'll be looking for Vodafone & O2 now

Cabaal

swingking wrote: »

here's what they need to offer.

They charge you 1 euro to use 50 mb of data, but they let this data carry over for a maximum of 5 days.

In that way it's gonna cost you 1 euro for 5 days internet usage.

question:

What is meteor's definition of a day. If I use data at 11.59 pm, am I suddenly charged another euro and my data usage is reset??

its upto midnight, I started my 50MB yesterday around 2pm, it reset at 12 lastnight and I'd need to now pay another 99c for any further usage today!

So its not even 24hrs from the point you start it, its anything up till midnight by the looks of it

Jonathan

Cabaal wrote: »

30e if I wanted to use data on my mobile for everyday of a month, ffs!
Bollox even if all I wanted to do was check one e-mail out,

99c per week for 50MB would have done the job much better

I've loved Meteor upto now but I think this new data charge model has broke the camels back and I'll be looking for Vodafone & O2 now

Meteor Website wrote:

How much browsing can I do with 50MB?

This really depends on the kind of pages you are viewing.A web page designed specifically to work on a mobile phone uses approximately 20-25kB, meaning you could view up to 2,500 pages. Standard web pages - those designed for computers - use about 100kB. In this case 50MB would still mean you could view up to 500 pages in any one day.

They openly admit that you can only browse 2-3 pages designed for mobiles before being whacked with the 99c fee. :rolleyes:

chrislad

It's not that bad an offer. It's not geared towards people who want to use their phone as a modem. As a mobile offer, it's great. I have the 3G iPhone with O2 and I have only used about 300megs so far this month, and I really used it. 50megs is plenty for mobile, and chances are this will appeal to people for Bebo, Facebook etc. It's a positive step in the right direction.

Jonathan

chrislad wrote: »

It's not that bad an offer. It's not geared towards people who want to use their phone as a modem. As a mobile offer, it's great. I have the 3G iPhone with O2 and I have only used about 300megs so far this month, and I really used it. 50megs is plenty for mobile, and chances are this will appeal to people for Bebo, Facebook etc. It's a positive step in the right direction.

Do you think €29.70 per month is a reasonable price for that privilege?

Walkman

Chrislad. A positive ster in the right direction would be at least match the current best offer on the market thats lets every customer browse without eating into all their credit. Oh well I suppose they have to make money somewhere and its definately not off their pre pay €20pm teenage customers who make up the majority.

Jonathan

cormie wrote: »

What price is it now for 1kb though as anything up to 49kb is still at 2c per kb, then the next 49mb are basically free. This is PAYG (I think??) so if you go from 50-60MB, and only have €5 on your sim card, you'll only make it a bit past 50MB anyway before running out of credit. Doubt many people would have €205 credit

The problem lies with the fact that: They have increased the cost of raw data from 0.5c/KB to 2c/KB. This is a 400% increase.

What irritates me is that they have made it exceptionally easy to get 99c out of you for very little use at all.

I would have no problem with this price plan, in fact I would welcome it, if they left it at the old price per kb for data before and after the 99c block.

This would still be in uncompeditive in comparison to three's offer, but at least it would building on what they had previously, not a step backwards, like this offer.

cormie

So this offer is really only good for people who may use it one or two days a month to connect with their laptop while out and about. For that purpose it's great, for everything else, it's a rip off. Luckily I'm one of the people it's good for