50D official

nilhg

For all you canonites

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08082605canoneos50d.asp

jackdaw

9 point metering ? 400D has 7 point correct ?


and what's a UDMA card ? - a type of flash ?

sunny2004

nilhg wrote: »

For all you canonites

we pray for your soul's

whyulittle

Nevermind that, where's the 5D replacement!!

jackdaw

whyulittle wrote: »

Nevermind that, where's the 5D replacement!!

yeah .. there HAS to be more .. surely out of photokina they can't just announce an update to a camera that's hardly 1 year old ..

Uncle Albert said there will be a 5D mk II (or maybe it will be called a 3D , 4D) .. 3D would be nice for the marketing alone..

maybe a 1D(s) mk IV .. or too soon ?

AnimalRights

aaahhh lol only bought the 40D last week, oh how technology messes with ya!

helios

50D = Fail

6.3FPS and 15MP? Thanks, but I'll pass on that one...

bernard0368

From canon site

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos50d/index.html

jackdaw

helios wrote: »

50D = Fail

6.3FPS and 15MP? Thanks, but I'll pass on that one...

why ? 6.3fps is pretty fast and 15MP is more then adequate ..

AnimalRights

helios wrote: »

50D = Fail

6.3FPS and 15MP? Thanks, but I'll pass on that one...

I would swap my 40D for this 50D in a flash, a lot of other features it has too.

whyulittle

AnimalRights wrote: »

I would swap my 40D for this 50D in a flash, a lot of other features it has too.

And Canon sit happily.

decsramble

AnimalRights wrote: »

aaahhh lol only bought the 40D last week, oh how technology messes with ya!

Yeah I bought a 40D last month to replace an eratic 350D before my holidays. It was a good camera yesterday and it's still a good camera this morning. Odds are the 50D will be pretty expensive as well so I'm happy with my newly old 40D

AnimalRights

whyulittle wrote: »

And Canon sit happily.

Photography is my hobby, I'm an adult, I like to spoil myself.
Are you saying you didn't find their website on the 50D sexeh?
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos50d/index.html

Wonder how much and release date.

Also Canon has to upgrade to stay ahead of the opposition.

Calina

This is a fail. It has a slower fps than the 40D and the extra MP isn't enough to make me want it. The jpg burst rate is irrelevant - I'm more interested in the RAW burst rate and that's not given.

It's not a step forward and it's not ahead of the equivalent Nikon offering. In one way I am not too worried because I have my 40D less than six months. In another I am disappointed with Canon. I expect more of a step forward.

But I seem to remember the 20D to 30D wasn't a huge step either so...

Paulw

I would expect the announcement of the 5D replacement just a day or so before the end. I guess they want it to be their biggest news. Today, they launched the 50D, some lenses and some compact cameras. Just the first batch.

The 50D has some nice features - UDMA, HDMI, face recognition. The 6.3fps is just .2 fps slower than the 40D, but the 15mp is a nice step too. (16 shot burst in raw, and 60 shot burst in jpg).

Also, the much higher ISO range looks impressive (naitive to 3200 and expanded up to ISO 6400 and ISO 12800). Much clearer LCD will be great too.

Not really worth an upgrade from the 40D, but well worth it from a 400D, 450D, 1000D, etc.

gandalf

Not worried at all, I am still learning what the 40D can do. The enhancements aren't enough to make me want it. When I do upgrade and thats quite a while away it will be up a step in the range of bodies.

bovril

Where would one find info on the new lenses they are releasing?

sorry- found one anyways on dpreview the main page..

fguihen

im gona swoop in and get a 40D as soon as the 50D is released and 40D prices come down. That happened with the 400D just before the 450D was released. hmmm. wonder how much i will get a 40D body for...

deRanged

fguihen wrote: »

. wonder how much i will get a 40D body for...

exactly what I'm thinking! should be some nice bargains out there.

PaulieC

I'm actively saving for a new body (camera body that is:eek:). I was aiming for 5D, but a couple of times I almost broke and bought the 40D. Looking atthe 50D specs, I am distinctly underwhelmed, so much so that I wouldn't even consider this to be a viable from the 30D that I have. The new features on this are fairly pathetic - HDMI output and face detection focus...is it an SLR or a P&S ?

Roll on the 3D or 5D MkII or whatever it's going to be called.

helios

The only feature I'd say is worthwhile would be UDMA and the nice new screen, but it's hardly a readon to upgrade from a 40D unless they were offering a trade-up or something...

jackdaw

helios wrote: »

The only feature I'd say is worthwhile would be UDMA and the nice new screen, but it's hardly a readon to upgrade from a 40D unless they were offering a trade-up or something...

yes but a good reason to upgrade from the 400D ?

someone mentioned 15mp would be a bad thing, it will only
show lens defects more ??

surely this isn't the case .. i mean if it were the 1Ds would
show lots more with the 21 MP ..

helios

Definately from a 400D, but that's about it. 30D is pushing it, but definately NOT from a 40D unless you need 2 bodies...

jackdaw wrote: »

yes but a good reason to upgrade from the 400D ?

someone mentioned 15mp would be a bad thing, it will only
show lens defects more ??

surely this isn't the case .. i mean if it were the 1Ds would
show lots more with the 21 MP ..

MartMax

I'd not upgrade myself from 40D to 50D anysoon or later. Only have my camera for 4 months, so I still have a lot to learn. Thou the extras on 50D might be tempting but I'd wait for 5D replacement should I need another body. At the moment, I'm more tempted to get a full frame body and more sexeh lenses!

Roen

Field test by a Swedish 'tog here.

Google translated version

He states that it's AF beats the 1DMKIII.

Calina

From what a lot of people say, the AF on a toy camera beats the AF on a 1D Mk III.

fguihen

anyone have any guesses as to the price range of this camera with body only when released? will it be sub 1000?

challengemaster

excellent, this will drop the price of the 40D \o/

MartMax

fguihen wrote: »

anyone have any guesses as to the price range of this camera with body only when released? will it be sub 1000?

From Canon UK/Ireland website:

The EOS 50D (body only) is available from end of September 2008 priced at £1199.99 / €1599.99 RRP inc. VAT.

The EOS 50D EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM kit is available from end of September 2008 priced at £1499.99 / €1949.99 RRP inc. VAT.

40D is said to be continuosly produced. But surely does, the price gonna drop!

Paulw

Calina wrote: »

From what a lot of people say, the AF on a toy camera beats the AF on a 1D Mk III.

Mostly from those who either had one of the first batch of 1D MkIII, or from those who've never used a 1D MkIII.

For the vast majority of users of the 1D MkIII, the AF is brilliant. I think myself, Keith and Simon can attest to that.

Just got an email from Warehouse Express - 50D, plus bits (camera bag, memory), all for £1199.99 (order now). It's a pre-order.

0utpost31

Where would one find info on the new lenses they are releasing?

THeres a new canon 18-200mm lens coming out in october, looks pretty sweet. Scroll down this page a bit... http://www.photographybay.com/2008/08/26/canon-eos-50d-announced/

fguihen

Paulw wrote: »

Mostly from those who either had one of the first batch of 1D MkIII, or from those who've never used a 1D MkIII.

For the vast majority of users of the 1D MkIII, the AF is brilliant. I think myself, Keith and Simon can attest to that.

Just got an email from Warehouse Express - 50D, plus bits (camera bag, memory), all for £1199.99 (order now). It's a pre-order.

Darn. Out of my league at present. was hoping it might be around 1000. Meh, if the 40D drops to 600 for the body il have to get that.

0utpost31

you can get a new 40d body for 600 on ebay now... so it may go down to 500 when the 50d comes out.

Borderfox

Paulw wrote: »

Mostly from those who either had one of the first batch of 1D MkIII, or from those who've never used a 1D MkIII.

For the vast majority of users of the 1D MkIII, the AF is brilliant. I think myself, Keith and Simon can attest to that.

Just got an email from Warehouse Express - 50D, plus bits (camera bag, memory), all for £1199.99 (order now). It's a pre-order.

I agree Paul, nothing comes close to the 1dmk3 for accuracy. Its getting to the indoor season for me and that really sorts the men from the boys/girls.. 1dmk3 and an 85mm f1.2 for indoor showjumping

Not a bad upgrade in the 50d though, 50% increase in pixels and VGA screen. Looks pricey though, Albert will be busy

PaulieC

DPReview Preview

Borderfox

Its hard to tell regading noise at high ISO, any samples they show are shot under good light at middling apertures and probably with tripods.

jackdaw

Again .. I wish it wasn't 15MP .. unless it's full frame this will show more defects .. 11,12 MP would have been better ..

Borderfox

Might give Canon some problems with the 5d upgrade if it going to be 16mp?? and the 50d is 15mp.

jackdaw

Borderfox wrote: »

Might give Canon some problems with the 5d upgrade if it going to be 16mp?? and the 50d is 15mp.

Won't matter the 5D mk2 will be FF , so less defects ..

Paulw

jackdaw wrote: »

Again .. I wish it wasn't 15MP .. unless it's full frame this will show more defects .. 11,12 MP would have been better ..

I would assume that Canon know what they are doing. Any defects you are talking about, would come from low quality lenses anyway.

Always better off buying quality glass for your camera body.

If I didn't have a 40D, I would certainly consider the 50D as an upgrade from 30D, or 400/450D. It's not a major step from 40D, but has some great features.

eas

jackdaw wrote: »

Won't matter the 5D mk2 will be FF , so less defects ..

jackdaw, you may be getting confused here. I think you're talking about 2 completely different things.

a lenses ability to perform on a high resolution camera and it's ability to perform on a full frame camera depend on different things. Resolution and sensor size are independent. If you have a 16mp 1.4x or a 16mp FF, it's more likely that you'll see a lenses shortcomings on the FF body.

challengemaster

at 3 times the price for a few extra mp and slower fps (well, only .2) - I don't think i'd waste my time even looking at it.

AnimalRights

challengemaster wrote: »

at 3 times the price for a few extra mp and slower fps (well, only .2) - I don't think i'd waste my time even looking at it.

Canon always have a RRP which is always dropped a couple of hundred in the shops so it's more double the price if even that.
And come on it's more than just as you described it, I def would love the new screen and the auto focus points amongst other things.
I am def going to try and get this by hitting my other half for a loan, that will be my 5th Cam in less than a year.
My 40D will have very few pics taken I would imagine by then since I only bought it last week so will make a good buy for someone.

City-Exile

It's the first Canon SLR to use the DIGIC 4 processor.
Will be interesting to see how that goes.
Wonder if they'd retro-fit the 1D Mk III with dual DIGIC 4 processors.

0utpost31

So who's getting one?

It seems like a really good camera.

The improved weather sealing is a big incentive among other things such as

- ISO up to 12800

- low noise levels due to funky "gapless lenses" on the photosites

- that stupid fecking "direct print" button can now also be used to switch to live view

- higher res lcd than the 40D

- contrast detected autofocus

If I can get it for 800 on ebay I'll buy it. But only after somebody here gets it first!

Animalrights? Care to take the plunge?

democrates

Borderfox wrote: »

1dmk3 and an 85mm f1.2 for indoor showjumping

I have that lens on order, seems they only come up second hand when an owner dies because once you have one there's nothing else to upgrade to

Right now it'll go on a 450d body which I aim to replace - "buy cheap, buy twice", but to what new body is the question, and in particular I'm a bit confused on ff vs aps-c.

If the 5dMkII (or 3d etc) is about the same resolution as the 50d, am I right in thinking that the 50d wouldn't be using all of the lens area so while I gain on the tele that's pure crop and no extra reach for dof, while losing on the wide end may highlight any weakness in the center area of the lens elements and just fail to capture the full lens quality which was engineered with ff in mind?

0utpost31

democrates wrote: »

I have that lens on order,

What could one need the 85mm 1.2 for? Other than indoor showjumping?

I've drooled over it on many ebay auctions...

while losing on the wide end may highlight any weakness in the center area of the lens elements and just fail to capture the full lens quality which was engineered with ff in mind?

The luxurious quality L lenses were engineered with full frame in mind, but if you use them on a crop sensor, I doubt you'll find any weaknesses at all.

MartMax

0utpost31 wrote: »

Animalrights? Care to take the plunge?

Go on Animalrights... we all know u want it! :pac:

Placebo

HDMI is a gimmick
extra weight if anything

oh mom check out some flowers i shot earlier, SERIOUSLY !?

democrates

0utpost31 wrote: »

What could one need the 85mm 1.2 for? Other than indoor showjumping?

I've drooled over it on many ebay auctions...

Portraits including indoor w/o flash. I started out like so many being seduced by megapixels and zoom range, but since I bought a 30mm f/1.4 and saw the staggering difference in results I've been smitten by fast primes. Obviously I won't use it exclusively at 1.2 so in a lot of cases the 85mm f/1.8 L would have done, but there are going to be times the shorter dof at the same distance and/or speed will make it worth it.

0utpost31 wrote: »

The luxurious quality L lenses were engineered with full frame in mind, but if you use them on a crop sensor, I doubt you'll find any weaknesses at all.

Excellent, haven't read any complaints from 1ds III owners, so 21Mp cropped by 1.6 must mean it's still top notch in the center at ~13Mp. The 50d in theory would look through that same portion of glass at 15Mp, would be interesting to see a comparison.

Of course the weakest link in the quality chain is likely to be neither the lens nor sensor etc, but me scrambling to skill up

Fenster

When I spoke to Simon in Vegas he swore by the AF on the 1D MK3...