8 days to end of M50 toll gates!!

darkman2

Happy days.....the toll plaza is being removed in 8 days time.


On a more serious note make sure you have your freeflow tags because you will be prosecuted if you dont according to the NRA (you will get a warning I persume).


You know im wondering how much the economy is going to benefit when this plaza is removed - all our troubles are over except for the toll:mad:....but at least we wont have to stop!:D

Think of how much pain and frustration motorists from all over Ireland and from abroad have experienced at these toll gates.....no more:D:D Cause I had to use it regularly you have no idea how happy I am:D

Those who have experienced this everyday for the last 15 years will know what I mean.

I bet there will be a crowd of people there to see the first brick removed.

SpookyDoll

Thought they were just removing the barriers?

I wont use it any more, going through it for the last time to get to Electric Picnic next Friday -after that, THATS IT !!!!

I aint gettin no plane! :mad:

Wagon

Take a piss on the wall and **** in the little bins you throw the money into before it goes forever my friend!

darkman2

SpookyDoll wrote: »

Thought they were just removing the barriers?

I wont use it any more, going through it for the last time to get to Electric Picnic next Friday -after that, THATS IT !!!!

I aint gettin no plane! :mad:

Erm I think the barriers will be up next Friday so you will need a tag. Or just avoid it completely.


EDIT: Saturday actually so your grand.

Pimp Ninja

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted M50 commuter, I can be helpful in rounding up others to drive through their barrier free toll.

On a serious note, It should have come an awful lot sooner, and Im very happy that its coming in as the schools go back. It should help to ease some of the additional congestion that is going to happen.

... Now hurry up and finish the roadworks !

SoupyNorman

Day 1 - Barriers are lifted.

Day 2 - System Failure

Day 3 - Back to Barriered tolling

Day 4 - Astoroid Hits...

5starpool

If there weren't rip off 'admin' fees applied to the new tags it would be much better. For a fairly rare user of the M50 (10 or so times a year only) a €1 a month charge is too much.

anniehoo

I cant effin wait! 8 years of being stuck in tail backs waitin to get passed this god forsaken thing! :mad:I reeeeally hope the new system makes a big difference!:rolleyes:

I still dont know how they will find the non payers. Like, your car coudl be registered to any address and you couldve moved several times, how would they find you?

shenanigans1982

I'd be willing to put my money on the bridge actually being worse the first Monday they come into use. My reg also has a zero that looks like an eight ...I wanna see how long I can get away with using it for free.

cornbb

5starpool wrote: »

If there weren't rip off 'admin' fees applied to the new tags it would be much better. For a fairly rare user of the M50 (10 or so times a year only) a €1 a month charge is too much.

What about us culchies who only use the M50 twice a year, is there still a good ole fashioned coin bucket for us? And on the same note, why the fook did some mook think it necessary to drop a leaflet about barrier-free tolling through my door in Galway, 200 miles away from the M50?

SpookyDoll

Phew ....thanks DarkMan2

I wonder how I will get back from Electric Picnic, I might circumvent the barsteward thing by taking a 5 hour detour down all the back roads.

That'll sure teach those Evil overlords. O how they shall click their insect mouthparts in fury.....mWOOOohoooohOOOHAAAhhaaaa!!!!

biko

cornbb wrote: »

What about us culchies who only use the M50 twice a year, is there still a good ole fashioned coin bucket for us? And on the same note, why the fook did some mook think it necessary to drop a leaflet about barrier-free tolling through my door in Galway, 200 miles away from the M50?

Sure our number plates are covered in muck anyway.

anniehoo

They also never answer their phones or emails. Have been trying to get a new easy pass holder and chnage my car reg but havent heard anything back...hmmm...how long before they catch me?:p

darkman2

cornbb wrote: »

What about us culchies who only use the M50 twice a year, is there still a good ole fashioned coin bucket for us?

No you will have to go into a newsagent or petrol station and purchase some sort of tag.


Check out www.eflow.ie



Seriously though this seems a bit complex for people. There are several different ways to pay. I dont fully understand how this is going to work yet - never mind catching evaders. They say they will go after foreigners even!

cornbb

biko wrote: »

Sure our number plates are covered in muck anyway.

Pff, the number plates rusted and fell off my tractor ages ago.

anniehoo

darkman2 wrote: »

There are several different ways to pay. I dont fully understand how this is going to work yet - never mind catching evaders. They say they will go after foreigners even!

The "pay by 8pm the next day" thing i dont understand. What if you're off to the airport on your holliers...are you meant to be findin internet cafes in the middle of lanzarote to pay your toll?:D

darkman2

Ohter providers


www.etrip.ie


www.etag.ie


I think its best if you use it frequently to just purchase online. Just find a topaz station if you dont for the occasional trip - only if you need to - otherwise just take a detour.

cornbb

darkman2 wrote: »

No you will have to go into a newsagent or petrol station and purchase some sort of tag.


Check out www.eflow.ie



Seriously though this seems a bit complex for people. There are several different ways to pay. I dont fully understand how this is going to work yet - never mind catching evaders. They say they will go after foreigners even!

So infrequent users of the M50 or tourists will have to phone a number or go online to pay the toll, and pay 50% more than registered users? Wow, thats a pain in the arse.

Zaph

The toll plaza itself won't actually be removed until October and when they start work on that the NRA reckon that there'll be worse delays for a while. Don't see why they couldn't do it the other way round and remove the plaza first before introducing the new system. Well actually I do know why they're doing it like that - if they did it the other way round they wouldn't have millions of euros in pre-paid tag charges sitting in the bank for an extra few months.

Zaph

cornbb wrote: »

So infrequent users of the M50 or tourists will have to phone a number or go online to pay the toll, and pay 50% more than registered users? Wow, thats a pain in the arse.

Move to Dublin and use the M50 every day. You know it makes financial sense.

SpookyDoll

cornbb wrote: »

So infrequent users of the M50 or tourists will have to phone a number or go online to pay the toll, and pay 50% more than registered users? Wow, thats a pain in the arse.

Yeh, exactly -they are making a ridiculous amount of admin for people to do just to get through a feckin road.......

I dont have time for that crap, I prefer to reject it, which is probably their plan.

Sherifu

Imagine paying for using the road.






Nope, can't do it.
Fair play to the government, NRA & the tolling company. Screwing over Dubliners since... how long has it been?

darkman2

Sherifu wrote: »

Fair play to the government, Screwing over Dubliners since... how long has it been?

Since Independence? Oh wait the Brits were doing it long before that so give or take around 900 years. Dont expect things to change overnight;)

markpb

cornbb wrote: »

What about us culchies who only use the M50 twice a year, is there still a good ole fashioned coin bucket for us? And on the same note, why the fook did some mook think it necessary to drop a leaflet about barrier-free tolling through my door in Galway, 200 miles away from the M50?

The ironing is delicious....

cornbb wrote:

I'm a mucker, how do I pay [...] I'm a mucker, why is someone giving me leaflets about how to pay

Seriously, it's not difficult. If you use it a lot, buy a tag. If you rarely use it, just drive through and then ring them with your credit card number.

darkman2

markpb wrote: »

The ironing is delicious....

Yes, the ironing - hate the ironing:)

darkman2

Zaph wrote: »

The toll plaza itself won't actually be removed until October

Your right, the demolition will start in 8 days time but it will take '8 or 9 weeks' (that means 12;) )

skelliser

just wrap cling film over ur plates

Mossy Monk

A scam is all this thing will be.

bigtime

darkman2 wrote: »

Happy days.....the toll plaza is being removed in 8 days time.


On a more serious note make sure you have your freeflow tags because you will be prosecuted if you dont according to the NRA (you will get a warning I persume).


You know im wondering how much the economy is going to benefit when this plaza is removed - all our troubles are over except for the toll:mad:....but at least we wont have to stop!:D

Think of how much pain and frustration motorists from all over Ireland and from abroad have experienced at these toll gates.....no more:D:D Cause I had to use it regularly you have no idea how happy I am:D

Those who have experienced this everyday for the last 15 years will know what I mean.

I bet there will be a crowd of people there to see the first brick removed.

I assume you work for this crowd.

The facts are that this is a further insult to the Irish people and a restriction to their freedoms.

Red Alert

Couldn't they just leave the plaza itself there and demolish the kiosks and curbing around them? I think the plaza itself just sits on a few pillars.

Has anyone else still not received a tag in the post despite ordering it online?

Guy:Incognito

SpookyDoll wrote: »

I wont use it any more, going through it for the last time to get to Electric Picnic next Friday -after that, THATS IT !!!!

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Why? Did you only use it before because you like queing?

bigtime wrote: »

The facts are that this is a further insult to the Irish people and a restriction to their freedoms.

A fact you say? How is it a fact that its a restriction of freedom? Being stuck in a que for an hour, now thats a restriction of freedom.

JerryHandbag

anniehoo wrote: »

The "pay by 8pm the next day" thing i dont understand. What if you're off to the airport on your holliers...are you meant to be findin internet cafes in the middle of lanzarote to pay your toll?:D

This is exactly why I think this thing is a scam and cunningly designed to catch people out....suppose you drive through and just have your plate scanned or whatever, and you have a long drive home by which stage your wrecked and say to yourself "Ah, Ill pay that thing tomorrow...." and of course you forget. Easily done, they're gonna make a mint from this. Those clever, clever people. :rolleyes:

darkman2

JerryHandbag wrote: »

This is exactly why I think this thing is a scam and cunningly designed to catch people out....suppose you drive through and just have your plate scanned or whatever, and you have a long drive home by which stage your wrecked and say to yourself "Ah, Ill pay that thing tomorrow...." and of course you forget. Easily done, they're gonna make a mint from this. Those clever, clever people. :rolleyes:

Actually you would want to take into account the cost of going after evaders and court cases etc. That will cost a mint. Hardly in their interests tbh.

Zaph

Red Alert wrote: »

Has anyone else still not received a tag in the post despite ordering it online?

Yep, still waiting to get mine, even though I got a load of stuff from eflow a couple of weeks ago.

Manic Moran

So if I'm understanding this correctly, they're planning on removing the stop-go system with an e-pass or something like that which gets electronically read/scanned as you drive through.

This makes sense.

But they're not leaving even one or two kiosks for tourists or whoever, like every other bridge I've ever crossed around the world which has no-stop pass systems?

Who's the idiot in charge of that?

NTM

MagicMarker

First i've heard of this... sounds rather half assed tbh. To be expected really.

OPENROAD

Am I correct in thinking that you need to pay for a tag and then pay for the toll on top of that?

phasers

I really don't understand this.
I don't have a credit card and there's about 200000 different tags on offer... WTF? can I just not do anything and pay the €3 in a shop? or do I have to register or something?

tech77

phasers wrote: »

I really don't understand this.
I don't have a credit card and there's about 200000 different tags on offer... WTF? can I just not do anything and pay the €3 in a shop? or do I have to register or something?

I don't understand this either.
If you don't register for a tag and pay in a shop what details do you need to give when paying in a shop.. is it your car reg?

Also the toll is 2 euro at the moment.
With barrier-free tolling it goes up to 3 euro (paying as you go) and 2 euro if you register.
You'd think it's be at the most 2 euro (and maybe 1 euro if registered).
Seems like a total scam- haven't people paid enough.

Sam Vimes

they'll have to put a barrier up to block all the extra lanes and get rid of the kiosks in the two main lanes fairly sharpish or people will still have to slow down to go through it safely

and about those admin fees, i've never been so pissed off about such a small amount of money. You're paying for the cost involved in having your details stored on a database somewhere. Load of ****e tbh.

i'm going to invest in some masking tape for my number plate. Much cheaper than a tag :pac:

FreedomJoe

So let me get this straight,

If you register then your pay upfront for regular travel.

But for the rest of us who only use the M50 to get to the airport or shopping at Blanch on the odd occasion once per year have to A) Pay more, Log onto the internet the day before we plan to travel pay by credit card and make sure we have planned ahead for our return travel? And what happens if you dont have a credit or lazer card?

And what gripes me is that only the Irish have to pay this!

Johnny foreigner wont be paying a thing as they will no nothing about the system and clearly wont be chased all over Europe by the M50 people with a fine!

So even Irish Haulliers get stuffed over this as Foreign Haulliers can get away without paying as well.

Wouldnt it be nice if we could get Free tolls all over Europe! But as usual the Irish get stuffed over whilst the rest of the world can come here and take the mick!

astrofool

I'm still not sure what their plan is for foreigners, and foreign owned trucks.

Archeron

We're all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

Everyone should say that once, and I felt that a thread about that stupid fooking bridge and its cost to everyone who uses it is the appropriate one for mine.
Grrrrrr.

cornbb

cornbb wrote: »

What about us culchies who only use the M50 twice a year, is there still a good ole fashioned coin bucket for us? And on the same note, why the fook did some mook think it necessary to drop a leaflet about barrier-free tolling through my door in Galway, 200 miles away from the M50?

Got one in Kerry too. I thought the whole point of the government buying out the toll bridge was to abolish the tolls? No, they actually put them up!

Who voted these tools in again? :rolleyes:

Run_to_da_hills

Just 8 more days till BIG BROTHER will watch you on the Westlink toll plaza :eek:


http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Chris%20Weston%20Big%20Brother%20Hey%20Oscar.jpg

SpookyDoll

Stekelly wrote: »

Why? Did you only use it before because you like queing

I used it every day for 7 years, that .....ARGH....thing took part of my soul! I had no choice!!

However, after counselling I AM OVER IT!!!

And also I have moved house but I do have cause OCCASIONALLY to use the cursed thing due to family living just beyond it.....<deep breaths>

What incenses me is its just a microcosm of Ireland in general, something that should be trivial and user friendly becomes not BETTER but worse, admin, heavy, buerocratical, inflexible and basically just even MORE sh1t....

I am a lone grumpy protester but in things like this I am the sort of grumpy, self inconveniencing, heel diggin in bastud that WILL actually put meself out to avoid them cnuts!!!

They aint gettin my nickel and dime no more man!!!

THEM SHOWER OWE ME MONEY!!!!

JerryHandbag

darkman2 wrote: »

Actually you would want to take into account the cost of going after evaders and court cases etc. That will cost a mint. Hardly in their interests tbh.

Yes but then the fines keep incrementing if you forget to pay them so it all adds up for them.....thats IF you forget and IF they conveniently forget to send you a wee reminder about the first fine.....ah feckit why dont we just take the roads in, and walk thru the fields!

SpookyDoll

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Yes but then the fines keep incrementing if you forget to pay them so it all adds up for them.....thats IF you forget and IF they conveniently forget to send you a wee reminder about the first fine.....ah feckit why dont we just take the roads in, and walk thru the fields!

Listen, anyone who appeals say, a speeding fine that I know ...it just....well...vanishes....I heard due to them not having the manpower to deal with the fines let alone the appeals...anecdotal evidence I do admit....

So Im thinkin, how would the toll Evil Uber Overrulers administrate say, em, mass disobedience...

Im no activist, I prefer to vote with me wheels and keep off the high roads.

JerryHandbag

Mass disobedience it is, then. ANARCHY ALL THE WAY!!!:D spread the word

SpookyDoll

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Mass disobedience it is, then. ANARCHY ALL THE WAY!!!:D spread the word

Credit crunch!
Goliath TOLL BULLY!!

Random average consumer says ...............Ask me ar$e !!!! :P

bigtime

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Just 8 more days till BIG BROTHER will watch you on the Westlink toll plaza :eek:


http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Chris%20Weston%20Big%20Brother%20Hey%20Oscar.jpg

You're right, that is the real issue here, and the main reason for the change.

In london by next year they plan to use anpr cameras to record every vehicle movement in the city.

And the masses seem to believe that this scheme is an effort to save the motorist time. They could not care less about your time.