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Impersonating a Garda

  • 16-08-2008 10:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭


    Can I ask what the rules are for impersonating a Gardaí, say in a play or something?
    Do you need a permit?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    I think an application has to be made to the local Superintendent to allow an actor to wear a Garda uniform. Also think that conditions are set that the uniform cannot obviously be used to impersonate an actual Garda such as stopping traffic etc.

    Cannot be 100% sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Proxy


    Is this for real?! Jesus christ. Imagine spending a night in the cells for playing a garda in a play. I remember it being done in school and nobody having to call the super. What are they afraid of, they'll be made fun of? Make more of a laugh of themselves than anyone on a stage can. I won't even link to the multitude of "stupid garda" youtube videos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    Someone once came up to me in the street after the night club claiming to be an undercover guard. I really should have asked to see his badge. The swine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    m83 wrote: »
    Someone once came up to me in the street after the night club claiming to be an undercover guard. I really should have asked to see his badge. The swine.

    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/out-of-control-1442850.html It's not uncommon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Proxy


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    I think i've even done that to someone annoying my friend :)

    Edit - I should point out - the impersonating, not the beating up that was in that link (note to self - read links before replying...)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    The lad in question is a friend of mine, think hes even a member on here, has his interview for garda reserve in a few weeks so hell spot a guard a mile off let alone someone pretending to be one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    Proxy wrote: »
    Is this for real?! Jesus christ. Imagine spending a night in the cells for playing a garda in a play. I remember it being done in school and nobody having to call the super. What are they afraid of, they'll be made fun of? Make more of a laugh of themselves than anyone on a stage can. I won't even link to the multitude of "stupid garda" youtube videos.

    The permission relates to the use of the Garda uniform and crest in films, plays etc.. that require authenticity.

    If you want to put on a dark uniform and cap for a school play or other mickey mouse type show and play the part of a garda there's no problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Also the fact the crest is copywrighted isnt it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Proxy wrote: »
    stupid garda youtube videos.

    I couldn't agree more, the videos are stupid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Proxy wrote: »
    Is this for real?! Jesus christ. Imagine spending a night in the cells for playing a garda in a play. I remember it being done in school and nobody having to call the super. What are they afraid of, they'll be made fun of? Make more of a laugh of themselves than anyone on a stage can. I won't even link to the multitude of "stupid garda" youtube videos.

    It relates to the fact that you would have an actual Garda uniform and using this could impersonate Gardai on the streets or too commit crimes. It was a very common IRA ploy too impersonate police as can be seen from the Northern bank.

    using something similar in a play or fancy dress etc wouoldnt be an issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Can I ask what the rules are for impersonating a Gardaí, say in a play or something?
    Do you need a permit?


    Nah. No permit required. Just play GAA and be a muldoon.
    :D:D:D:D





    Disclaimer:
    Just before anyones offended and i get banned again i'm joking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Paulzx wrote: »
    Nah. No permit required. Just play GAA and be a muldoon.
    :D:D:D:D





    Disclaimer:
    Just before anyones offended and i get banned again i'm joking.

    I dont get it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    I don't play GAA.

    I feel left out now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    psssttt its a firefigter slagging cops, you konw the stereotypes that you're all culchies that love gaa, nurses and hang-sangwitches

    Jaysus neighter of you go for detective will ye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    psssttt its a firefigter slagging cops, you konw the stereotypes that you're all culchies that love gaa, nurses and hang-sangwitches

    Jaysus neighter of you go for detective will ye

    Jaysus who doesnt love the GAA, nurses and those sanwhiches thinges?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    psssttt its a firefigter slagging cops, you konw the stereotypes that you're all culchies that love gaa, nurses and hang-sangwitches

    Jaysus neighter of you go for detective will ye

    You missing the sarcasm in my post does not bode well for a D/Garda future for you either! :pac:

    Who doesn't love Gah and the nurses!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Sorry just awake lol

    Well you lot stay away from me im starting a degree in nursing in october *looks worried* brother said ill end up in coppers and marry myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    As the word 'Gardaí' is plural, it would be grammatically impossible to impersonate "a Gardaí'. Physically, you could probably only impersonate Gardaí if you are a siamese twin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    I bet everyone copped that but really wasn't bothered to be enough of a smart arse to say it, know i copped it but wasn't bothered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    I bet everyone copped that but really wasn't bothered to be enough of a smart arse to say it, know i copped it but wasn't bothered

    Don't worry, I believe you! :pac:

    [pedantic]Incidentally you cannot impersonate more than one garda if you are a siamese twin, in fact, you being one of a set of twins is not necessary at all

    If you have a friend, the TWO of you could impersonate two gardaí

    [/pedantic]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Thats it my head is going to explode lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    any one remember the story a few years ago of a guy who 30 od years ago bought a garda uniform at a costume shop...

    on all ireland day he would show up every early and walk in saying he was a garda... go to the toilet and stay there untill the match and watch by the side...

    after 30 odd years he was found out in one of the jacks with a garda uniform stuffed in his bag...

    fare play to him is what i say :) to get away with it for so long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    yayamark wrote: »
    Jaysus who doesnt love the GAA, nurses and those sanwhiches thinges?

    Flipping hell!! Your right. Maybe its time for a career change:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    anto-t wrote: »
    any one remember the story a few years ago of a guy who 30 od years ago bought a garda uniform at a costume shop...

    on all ireland day he would show up every early and walk in saying he was a garda... go to the toilet and stay there untill the match and watch by the side...

    after 30 odd years he was found out in one of the jacks with a garda uniform stuffed in his bag...

    fare play to him is what i say :) to get away with it for so long

    Alas I dont think the judge would be so understanding and what the hell was a full uniform doing in a costume shop?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    And did they not change the uniform in the entire 30 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    I could go on eBay right now and but the makings of a garda uniform, navy cap, cap badge, blue pilot shirt and navy trousers, what joe soap would know the difference??

    Could go on there buy the stabbie too and if you look hard enough an asp. If you determined you can do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    I could go on eBay right now and but the makings of a garda uniform, navy cap, cap badge, blue pilot shirt and navy trousers, what joe soap would know the difference??

    Could go on there buy the stabbie too and if you look hard enough an asp. If you determined you can do it

    What about the Mayo accent, where ya gonna buy that?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Raytown Rocks


    CLADA wrote: »
    What about the Mayo accent, where ya gonna buy that?:D

    Leitrim.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    repeat after me ve-heh-ickle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    and "pink schnacks"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Quick one for ye, what would be the craic with people playing airsoft and the likes, could they have GARDA on their tac vests or would the just make do with police?

    Inclined to think it'd be a no no

    Just crossed my mind reading the airsoft forum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    It'd be a massive no no, I'd hope no one would be thick enough to do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Yea taught as much.

    Id say POLICE on their tac vest would get a queer look or two aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    hey was just looking at the Airsoft. Looks deadly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,828 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Thought I'd just poke the oul head in here, since airsoft was mentioned :D

    SWAT is the only thing you would really see on a vest in airsoft, if someone

    came along with garda on it, they'd probably be asked to remove it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    TheNog wrote: »
    hey was just looking at the Airsoft. Looks deadly
    Yea it does, you up for starting it with me nog :p

    looks like great craic, bit pricey to buy your own kit but most places offer rentals, one indoor place opening soon near me (they wont disclose full location) but its going to be all offices and the like, designed for more swat/aru tactics would love to give it a shot
    Blay wrote: »
    Thought I'd just poke the oul head in here, since airsoft was mentioned :D

    SWAT is the only thing you would really see on a vest in airsoft, if someone

    came along with garda on it, they'd probably be asked to remove it

    Think NYPD ESU might be in order :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Profiler


    Can I ask what the rules are for impersonating a Gardaí, say in a play or something?
    Do you need a permit?

    Jasus this is mad and I'm not sure if it is ironic, in an Alanis Morissette kind of way, but I know a serving Garda who goes on stage all the time and impersonates an actress... :eek: you should hear her sing, now that's a feckin crime :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,828 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    Yea it does, you up for starting it with me nog :p

    looks like great craic, bit pricey to buy your own kit but most places offer rentals, one indoor place opening soon near me (they wont disclose full location) but its going to be all offices and the like, designed for more swat/aru tactics would love to give it a shot


    Think NYPD ESU might be in order :p


    You guys should come along and give it a shot :), always good to have

    Gardai play so people don't think we're terrorists :rolleyes:


    But seriously ya's should give it a bash :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Blay wrote: »
    But seriously ya's should give it a bash :)

    i'm seriously considering it. might try with the rentals first to see how i get on.


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