have you ever been through a checkpoint in inner-city galway

turf

startin drivin soon round galway, like inner-city out to parkmore for work so on the roads round 8:30 to 9 and 5 to 5:30..

has anyone ever been through a checkpoint cause i'm gonna be on my learners permit?

padi89

turf wrote: »

startin drivin soon round galway, like inner-city out to parkmore for work so on the roads round 8:30 to 9 and 5 to 5:30..

has anyone ever been through a checkpoint cause i'm gonna be on my learners permit?

Yes i have been through a few, they are fairly infrequent but they can pop up anywhere anytime.

Your also asking about breaking the law and i would presume that if you are driving without a qualified driver your also not covered by your insurance?

If that is the case use the bus, otherwise your an idiot that doesn't deserve a license.

ValerieR

Not allowed to drive ... Don't drive !

turf

4 years ago when i was 17, 17 yr olds were drivin about grand on their own.. now im 2 1/2 weeks from 21 and i cant. pretty annoyin. can i drive on my own before the 6 month wait for full drivin test?/

turf

padi89 wrote: »

i would presume that if you are driving without a qualified driver your also not covered by your insurance?

i checked, you're still covered even tho its illegal.. no point arguin that you're not covered cause i'll link you.


so realistically in six months of drivin out to the race course, will i go through a checkpoint?

mikemac

I've seen regular checkpoints where you leave the Ballybane Road to go onto the Monevea Road. Basically as you drive into Ballybrit.

It's a very sharp and blind turn so they setup checkpoints just after this turn.
Plus it's not possible for motorists to turn around so if you come onto one of these you will be checked.

Used to remember the travellors having their vans searched. Usually filled with crates of soft drinks and crisps and chocolate. Probably off to flog it at some fair or point-to-point

turf wrote: »

4 years ago when i was 17, 17 yr olds were drivin about grand on their own.. now im 2 1/2 weeks from 21 and i cant. pretty annoyin./

The 17 years olds weren't supposed to driving on their own either, nothing has changed only the enforcement.And yes, the world is unfair, get used to it

You're going going to be driving between 08:30 and 09:00 and then 17:00 and 17:30? Right out of and into the city centre in rush hour traffic.
Are you mad, don't you know the traffic? You'd cycle it faster, you'd nearly walk it faster. Maybe something to consider. If I were you, I'd get a motorcycle or even a scooter. Scooters are great and cheap to run, you'll beat the traffic nay bother

ronnie3585

turf wrote: »

4 years ago when i was 17, 17 yr olds were drivin about grand on their own.. now im 2 1/2 weeks from 21 and i cant. pretty annoyin. can i drive on my own before the 6 month wait for full drivin test?/

As mentioned above you weren't supposed to be driving on your own when you were 17, nothing has changed except the enforcement. You have had four years to get your full license and you have been on notice for over a year that the Gardai would be enforcing the law - get over it.

It is only legal for you to drive if you have a fully licensed driver, who has their license for not less than two years, beside you. This person has to be insured on your car. The rationale being that if you are unable or incapable to continue driving he will be in a position to take control of the car.

padi89

turf wrote: »

i checked, you're still covered even tho its illegal.. no point arguin that you're not covered cause i'll link you.


so realistically in six months of drivin out to the race course, will i go through a checkpoint?

Bizarre Do put up the link, im not saying i don't believe you but i got to see this one.How is this supposed to work out if you are involved in an accident?Your covered to be driving the vehicle even though it's illegal for you to be doing so?

Anyhoo...4 years and you never applied for your test?

tristanc

turf wrote: »

startin drivin soon round galway, like inner-city out to parkmore for work so on the roads round 8:30 to 9 and 5 to 5:30..

has anyone ever been through a checkpoint cause i'm gonna be on my learners permit?

There's a pretty frequent bus to the Parkmore Industrial Estate. May be a better option. Biking is a very good option if you've got the proper clothing.

Also, I'd say a pretty high % of the residents of the docks (and Dun Aengus in particular) are working professionals who work out that direction. You may be able to find a carpool, or even find people who will carpool with you that have the requisite 2 years+ drivers license so you'd be covered.

gaeilgegrinds

I wouldn't do it, they're often at the roundabout there & it's not worth it, for €1,000 fine, double without your L-plates. Take the bus

turf

padi89 wrote: »

Bizarre Do put up the link, im not saying i don't believe you but i got to see this one.How is this supposed to work out if you are involved in an accident?Your covered to be driving the vehicle even though it's illegal for you to be doing so?

Anyhoo...4 years and you never applied for your test?

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/learners-who-drive-alone-still-insured-1419956.html

yea its stupid waitin till now.. went to college and never got round to it. didn't think i'd want to drive for years but got this job outside city and gettin soaked every mornin doesn't work if you're workin in an office all day.

btw, i'll be livin terryland side more than likely now so no traffic problems..

gaeilgegrinds

I'd say go for it if you've 2k to spare, otherwise abide by the law.

I think you will be ok op! A friend of mine asked two different guards whats the story with enforcement and both said he would be sound driving alone that they are not really enforcing the new rules, though iirc they said to make sure the L plates are up.

turf

well the 2 grand thing is worth the risk in my opinion.


you think I should keep L plates up? i'd have thought otherwise...

turf

turf wrote: »

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you think I should keep L plates up? i'd have thought otherwise...

I would have thought the same and when i was my 1st provisional a few years back i never used L plates but I almost sure my friend was told they dont look kindly on people not having the L plates up to try and fool them. I will have to ask him later to be sure as its a few weeks back we were talking about it.

Personally if I was on a learner permit I wouldnt be too worried about driving.

turf

well i'm a good driver thanks my parents teachin me at 11 and alot of drivin around country roads when i was 15 till i got caught by them..

i'd say i'll take the risk of gettin caught cause chances of checkpoint at 10 to 9 in the mornin is slim id say..

gd1987

I'd be very surprised if ya got stopped at a checkpoint in rush hour, I've been driving across town for more than two years every day during rush hour and have yet to see a check point. If I was you I'd drive without a bother.

turf

gd1987 wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if ya got stopped at a checkpoint in rush hour, I've been driving across town for more than two years every day during rush hour and have yet to see a check point. If I was you I'd drive without a bother.

that's my mind made up rite there..

so i passed my theory test there a few hours ago, go in nd get my permit next next week.. do i just insure nd tax a car then and i'm on the road?

turf

turf wrote: »

do i just insure nd tax a car then and i'm on the road?

Yeah when you get the permit get your tax and insurance sorted and away you go.

ronnie3585

turf wrote: »

i just insure nd tax a car then and i'm on the road?

So I take it you have never driven on a public road. Would you agree that it would be a good idea to get a lesson or two? Driving your parents car on country roads when you were 15 is long way from driving on the public highway.

ronnie3585

ronnie3585 wrote: »

So I take it you have never driven on a public road. Would you agree that it would be a good idea to get a lesson or two? Driving your parents car on country roads when you were 15 is long way from driving on the public highway.

Good point a lesson or two would do no harm although I learned to drive on the farm etc when I was a young lad and had no trouble driving on the road when I turned 17. Also apply for your test asap as you will have more comfort driving around with the full licence and you will get a refund on your insurance as soon as you ring them up and tell them you have the full licence.

turf

well when i said country roads, i under exagerated.. if thats a phrase. drove through towns like clones and monaghan and proper national roads in between. i will be gettin a lesson or two by the way tho, get back into the swing of things..

another note, is bestquote.ie as good as it seems? got a quote for 1450 from a sligo broker when quinn was nearly 2k.. is that realistic?

turf

Alaric Wide Quota wrote: »

you will get a refund on your insurance as soon as you ring them up and tell them you have the full licence.

cool, was wonderin bout that actually

turf

turf wrote: »

another note, is bestquote.ie as good as it seems? got a quote for 1450 from a sligo broker when quinn was nearly 2k.. is that realistic?

To be honest I have no experience with bestquote but if all the details you have given them are correct then the quote should be correct. That sounds like a decent quote actually considering you dont have the full licence or any no claims bonus. Ive been with quinn since I was 17(23 now) as they were always a good bit cheaper than the others so far anyway

turf

well i checked motors forum nd they seem to think its legit.. so if i get that insurance, i'm good. if you see an ibiza salsa wit nice wheels, thats me :P

Caliden

Met one along bohermore before the roundabout.
Dunno about everyone else but I need my car for work so I have option but to drive around with L plates up. Got a letter in the post the other day though and sorting a date for it so only another 8 weeks....

JohnCleary

BREAKIN DA LAW! BREAKING DA LAW!

Ah let he who has never sinned cast the first stone, i'm sure plenty of you fcukers were drinkin before ye were 18 - it's illegal!

To the OP, to answer your question, yes, i've seen plenty of checkpoints around the inner city before, and yes from time to time i've been asked for license (I think it was more of an excuse to ask you a question to get a smell of your breath though, this was before the random drink driving testing thingy came in). I have a full license so they used to pretty much just glance at it, check insurance/tax/nct and wave ya on.

It's an akward (sp?) situation for you provo license holders

turf

have u seen them during rush hour tho? its all i'm worried about... 2 grand is a hefty fine but worth the risk cause i'll only be doin in for 6 months hopefully if i pass my full test

biko

OP, if you think it's worth the fines/repercussions the go ahead. My advice is, as always, don't break the law.

I'll be on the lookout for a 96 turquoise Ibiza salsa.

workaccount

turf wrote: »

startin drivin soon round galway, like inner-city out to parkmore for work so on the roads round 8:30 to 9 and 5 to 5:30..

has anyone ever been through a checkpoint cause i'm gonna be on my learners permit?

micmclo wrote: »

I've seen regular checkpoints where you leave the Ballybane Road to go onto the Monevea Road. Basically as you drive into Ballybrit.

It's a very sharp and blind turn so they setup checkpoints just after this turn.
Plus it's not possible for motorists to turn around so if you come onto one of these you will be checked.

Used to remember the travellors having their vans searched. Usually filled with crates of soft drinks and crisps and chocolate. Probably off to flog it at some fair or point-to-point



The 17 years olds weren't supposed to driving on their own either, nothing has changed only the enforcement.And yes, the world is unfair, get used to it

You're going going to be driving between 08:30 and 09:00 and then 17:00 and 17:30? Right out of and into the city centre in rush hour traffic.
Are you mad, don't you know the traffic? You'd cycle it faster, you'd nearly walk it faster. Maybe something to consider. If I were you, I'd get a motorcycle or even a scooter. Scooters are great and cheap to run, you'll beat the traffic nay bother

Attitudes on this thread are unbelievable. No wonder driving in galway is absolutely dispicable.

For those of you condoning it how would you feel if the plank cut you off on a roundabout and you crashed into them. You would be responsible - YES YOU. And if he crashes into my bosses porsche 911 - who's going to pay for that if he's not insured?

turf: Get off the road until you get your full licence.


micmclo: And yes, the world is unfair, get used to it. :rolleyes:

Yes it certainly is to people who are on the receiving end of bad drving - Search for a recent thread here by Black Knight - Somebody came into his lane on the roundabout with lights and he hit the back of them - The woman got money off him for damage - over a grand - her fault but he hit the back of her car!

Galway is one of worst places in Ireland for bad driving - no indication, not using roundabouts correctly, driving onto roundabouts rather than stopping where the line is. I could go on. Some ridiculous attitudes in here.

workaccount

I see your other post is where you are going to be living Dun Aneghus and above you post the type of car you have and we also know where you are going to be working.

You don't really seem to have alot of sense of you? Personally I don't want to see you driving on the same roads I drive on. Why shoudn't I report you?

turf

ridiculous attitudes? i jus wanna get to work in the morning. that's not an attitude. if you're worried about me being a bad driver, how does fekin about galway not driving for six months and then sittin a test make me better? if i could take the test in a week, i would. i don't understand the need for a 6 month wait. nanny state.

workaccount

turf wrote: »

ridiculous attitudes? i jus wanna get to work in the morning. that's not an attitude. if you're worried about me being a bad driver, how does fekin about galway not driving for six months and then sittin a test make me better? if i could take the test in a week, i would. i don't understand the need for a 6 month wait. nanny state.

Get public f*ckin transport?? :mad: There's nothing to stop you getting to work.

turf

workaccount wrote: »

I see your other post is where you are going to be living Dun Aneghus and above you post the type of car you have and we also know where you are going to be working.

You don't really seem to have alot of sense of you? Personally I don't want to see you driving on the same roads I drive on. Why shoudn't I report you?

you shudnt report me cause i don't have a car..? or maybe this is all a big lie and i'm chillin in london..? you think guards are gonna take you're tip from an internet forum as legit..?


and since when do boards users report each other? jus think of how much of a loser act that would be.. you sound like a no-friends 30 year old.

workaccount

turf wrote: »

you shudnt report me cause i don't have a car..? or maybe this is all a big lie and i'm chillin in london..? you think guards are gonna take you're tip from an internet forum as legit..?


and since when do boards users report each other? jus think of how much of a loser act that would be.. you sound like a no-friends 30 year old.

heh, look new user. Don't start trying to make this into a petty argument - stick to the points please.

You haven't been around this forum very long - I was totally surprised by the attitudes on this thread. Normally something like this is never condoned. This place isn't like being down in the pub with your mates at the weekend when it comes to matters like this usually.

I'm not going to condone your behaviour if your putting me at risk - how stupid would that be??

btw I think you have the car already. Your little spiel about relaxing in London doesn't really cut it.

turf

i've already pm'd a mod askin for this thread to be locked. i've got my answer about checkpoints. start a new thread if ya want a discussion about learner drivers.

padi89

turf wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/learners-who-drive-alone-still-insured-1419956.html

That is ferking nuts .Its obvious why the insurance companies do it though because of the high premiums on young drivers.Having said that i wouldn't have any confidence in any insurance company covering my back if it's illegal for me to be behind the wheel in the first place.

I still say your completely wrong if your going to go ahead with driving.I don't see why you cannot use public transport or even get a bike? Getting wet is a poor excuse, get a jacket,an umbrella,stand under a shelter,if your on a bike get wet gear.

workaccount

turf wrote: »

i've already pm'd a mod askin for this thread to be locked. i've got my answer about checkpoints. start a new thread if ya want a discussion about learner drivers.

Do you know the rules of roundabouts and also when to indicate?

padi89

turf wrote: »

has anyone ever been through a checkpoint cause i'm gonna be on my learners permit?

If all you wanted was information on how often checkpoints pop up they why were you stupid enough to say you were doing so for an illegal reason?:rolleyes:

turf

why does anyone have a car then padi?

if we don't need them cause of public transport.... well then it must be... cause we want one? i work a good job and i want to be able to drive at 21 as a reward to myself. that's human nature..

arriving into an office cold and wet cause of a pointless 6 month wait is a bit of a burn and i'm obviously gonna try and get around it.. but since startin this thread, i'm not so sure anymore so ye're posts have changed my mind alot. is that good enough for you?

forestfruits

Id advise you to check with your own insurance company as not all will cover you if your illegally driving.

Get some lessons around the city- Galway driving can be in a word - Unique!

Suffer the inconvenience of a bus- or cycling for 6 months- with any bit of luck you will pass first time but stay off the road till then- its not worth the hassle

turf

padi89 wrote: »

If all you wanted was information on how often checkpoints pop up they why were you stupid enough to say you were doing so for an illegal reason?:rolleyes:

thread title: i miss checkpoints, are they still about anymore? :rolleyes: lol

turf

workaccount wrote: »

Do you know the rules of roundabouts and also when to indicate?

yea i do.. i've been a passenger in cars for years obviously, my parents and brothers have went through the rules so many times and i've drivin around them myself grand.

padi89

turf wrote: »

thread title: i miss checkpoints, are they still about anymore? :rolleyes: lol

Did i mention anything about your thread title? When you explain your reasons for doing so that's where it all goes pear shaped,hope your decision on driving is better thought out.

turf

it was a joke padi.. anyways, im not postin in this thread anymore. let it die.

workaccount

turf wrote: »

yea i do.. i've been a passenger in cars for years obviously, my parents and brothers have went through the rules so many times and i've drivin around them myself grand.

I'd say do the public transport thing for 6 months.

Some people have had it up to their necks in the likes of Galway with people breaking every rule imaginable. :P

JohnCleary

I haven't read all the posts on this thread, but the ones I have read make me laugh. Lads, chill the fcuk out ffs.

I'm sure that almost every provo driver drove on the roads on their own before this new enforcement came in and people used to turn a blind eye to it. What makes these drivers so much more dangerous since the enforcement came in? Infact, don't even answer that, cause i'm not getting into a heated debate about it. It's funny, i'd almost put a bet that the doo-gooders are the worst when it comes to practical driving. I'm sure they could answer every theory based question of the ROTR (Thanks to a quick Google :rolleyes:) but put them into a RWD car with an LSD on a wet day and they'd be in A&E within minutes.

OP: Basicly, it's illegal to drive on a provo without a fully licensed driver in the car with you. You know this, if you want to risk it, do so at your own peril, you're well aware of the consequences. Safe driving

And if all else fails: YORE MA :pac:

workaccount

JohnCleary wrote: »

but put them into a RWD car with an LSD on a wet day and they'd be in A&E within minutes.

Maybe you are a show off actually John . Unless you can think of a reason for why a driving a RWD with an LSD is in anyway remotely related to what were talking about.

You said what makes these drivers more dangerous since the enforcement came in. Why do you think the law was created initially?

JohnCleary

workaccount wrote: »

Maybe you are a show off actually John . Unless you can think of a reason for why a driving a RWD with an LSD is in anyway remotely related to what were talking about.

You said what makes these drivers more dangerous since the enforcement came in. Why do you think the law was created initially?

How am I a showoff, sure did I ever claim to drive a RWD with an LSD?

Liek I said i'm not getting into an online argument about it, if you want to talk about it PM me and we'll discuss it over a pint (I'll bring the chainsaw and the gas cylinder )

galwaygirl08

Personally I also think u should take a chill pill.

There has always been learner drivers on the road unaccompanied. If they still want to do it whilst on a learner permit, then let them off, its a matter of personal choice. I know many people in my area with FULL licences and they're brutal drivers. No regard for other road users at all. So I guess they are putting u at risk by being on the road also??. My point here is-its not only people on learner permits who should be labeled a danger to others. I was taking a lesson the other day and only for I checked my blind spot whilst on the roundabout, this ass would have killed us, cutting in on my lane...fully licensed driver in his 40's. :mad:

Not alot of checkpoints about Galway. I got through a checkpoint last month on my second provisional so I guess they are lenient enough on the issue. No questions asked.
U drive your car to work, do what u have to do, but keep taking the odd few lessons, I find them great.

workaccount

galwaygirl08 wrote: »

Personally I also think u should take a chill pill.

There has always been learner drivers on the road unaccompanied. If they still want to do it whilst on a learner permit, then let them off, its a matter of personal choice. I know many people in my area with FULL licences and they're brutal drivers. No regard for other road users at all. So I guess they are putting u at risk by being on the road also??. My point here is-its not only people on learner permits who should be labeled a danger to others. I was taking a lesson the other day and only for I checked my blind spot whilst on the roundabout, this ass would have killed us, cutting in on my lane...fully licensed driver in his 40's. :mad:

Not alot of checkpoints about Galway. I got through a checkpoint last month on my second provisional so I guess they are lenient enough on the issue. No questions asked.
U drive your car to work, do what u have to do, but keep taking the odd few lessons, I find them great.

Look I agree that the full license system needs reform but that's no reason for others to start breaking the rules regarding driving with a provisional. How do you know what kind of driver the op is? Do you honestly think it's ok that all these provisional drivers start using the roundabouts we use every day?

It's attitudes like this that have the roads in the state it is.

This is such a stupid thread.