Tarantino's 'Inglorious Bastards'

Basq

I know.. I know.. it's cool to hate Tarantino nowadays but besides the thoroughly unimpressive 'Death Proof', I've absolutely nothing against the guy as a writer and a director.

Anyways.. we're finally getting confirmation that his long-planned remake of 'Inglorious Bastards' is in the latter stages of casting and will begin filming in October.

But what an odd cast... I'd say a good portion of the rumoured cast over the last month or two are not in any way affiliated with it, but I don't think Tarantino has really confirmed anyone as of yet.

Just to give you an insight into who has been rumoured to be cast in the movie so far (from various sources):

* Brad Pitt as Lt. Aldo Raine, a hillbilly from Tennessee who puts together a team of eight Jewish-American soldiers. The character has been described as "a voluble, freewheeling outlaw" similar to Jules Winnfield from Tarantino's Pulp Fiction.[18]
* Mike Myers as Gen. Ed Fenech, a British "military mastermind" who provides a plot to kill Nazi leadership.[19]
* Eli Roth as Sgt. Donnie Donowitz,[17] "a baseball bat-swinging Nazi hunter".[20]

Tarantino originally sought for Leonardo DiCaprio to be cast as Hans Landa,[21] a Nazi leader targeted by resistance.[18] The director decided to instead have the character played by a German actor.[20] Tarantino is also in talks with actor B. J. Novak to be cast as PFC Utivich, a soldier that hails from New York.[22] The director is also negotiating with Simon Pegg to portray a British lieutenant, Nastassja Kinski to portray a German actress, and David Krumholtz to portray a member of Raine's team.[18]

Actor Adam Sandler said that he and the director had been discussing Sandler's involvement with the film for the past number of years, but the actor had to turn down a role due to a scheduling conflict with a planned film with director Judd Apatow.[23]

And today, AICN revealed that David Krumholtz has been replaced by Samm Levine (who played Neal Schweiber in 'Freaks And Geeks').

People have been of the opinion that Tarantino is clearly just pulling names out of hats here. But the cast is an ensemble one to say the least, albeit a very odd choice.

Will be interested to see a final cast sheet though.

Pigman II

basquille wrote: »

I know.. I know.. it's cool to hate Tarantino nowadays but besides the thoroughly unimpressive 'Death Proof', I've absolutely nothing against the guy as a writer and a director.

Eh? I must be living on a different planet. Death Proof is quality and I think he's still one of the few essential American directors in existence.

It's refreshing to see a guy out there whos still making movies for himself instead of some predetermined market.

Basq

I loved everything Tarantino has done, bar 'Death Proof' (just thoroughly bored me).

But I agree with your other points.

unreggd

whats goin on with this film?

its been in the makin for AGES

tot it was out on DVD already!

While I enjoy Tarantino's films I still think that he's the most over rated writer/director in the history of cinema. Most of his films are little more than self indulgent masturbation and his constant "homaging" has at this stage gone beyond a joke. Kill Bill, while entertaining was more of a best of compilation than a film and Death Proof was far too long and illustrates all Tarantino's short comings.

That said Tarantino's greatest sin are his criems against acting, he sucks worse than a Dyson whenever he has to convey any emotion.

I got the 3 disc release of the original Inglorious Bastards and have to admit that it's damn good fun. It's the best Dirty Dozen cash in going so far as to better the DD and it could possibly be the finest Italian exploitation film ever made.

Karl Hungus

basquille wrote: »

I know.. I know.. it's cool to hate Tarantino nowadays but besides the thoroughly unimpressive 'Death Proof', I've absolutely nothing against the guy as a writer and a director.

Ironically, Death Proof impressed me quite a bit.

MagicMarker

Yeah, Death Proof was quality...

Although i could confirm this with a quick trip over to IMDb, last time i looked(couple of weeks ago) at this it had both Pitt and DiCaprio in the cast.

Necronomicon

Still haven't seen Death Proof (been trying to hold off until Grindhouse is released together, which failed when I gave in and watched Planet Terror).

While a pinch of salt has to be taken with the rumoured line-up, if it's anything that resembles that in the reports, it'll be interesting to say the very least.

Tusky

I think the cast is awful. Is he trying to make a comedy ? Seems like hes trying to be too clever.

I have liked everything he has done before though (apart from his acting apperances).

Running Bing

QT=Great writer+Great director-awful actor.



Personally I owe him a lot.


That cast list sounds terrible though. I really think its a pisstake and these names are being purposefully leaked to throw people off.

Dont be at yourself

Death Proof was a vanity project, and left me completely cold. Kill Bill was edging that way too, and while a decent enough film, was some way short of his previous work.

Inglorious Bastards hopefully sees him getting back to his best, but he has burnt a lot of his goodwill over the past few years.

Karl Hungus

Babybing wrote: »

QT=Great writer

Yeah? Honestly, I find he's one of the worst writers I can think of. His dialogue is just woeful, and most of the time it only works because of who's delivering it. The whole speech that Christopher Walken gave about sticking the watch up his ass, that was absolute gold because it was Chris mother****ing Walken. Take away the great actors, and you can see Tarantino's writing for how awful it is, like in Death Proof.

Sorry, this is starting to turn into another Tarantino bashing thread.

Tusky

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Yeah? Honestly, I find he's one of the worst writers I can think of. His dialogue is just woeful, and most of the time it only works because of who's delivering it. The whole speech that Christopher Walken gave about sticking the watch up his ass, that was absolute gold because it was Chris mother****ing Walken. Take away the great actors, and you can see Tarantino's writing for how awful it is, like in Death Proof.

Sorry, this is starting to turn into another Tarantino bashing thread.

Face it Karl, he makes very very entertaining and rewatchable movies. You are definitely in the minority in your Tarantino bashing!

pixelburp

Up to a point, I would be somewhat on the fence when it comes to Tarantino. There's little doubting that his initial work in cinema was a spectacular & important punch to the gut of Hollywood with "Reservoir Dogs" & to a lesser extent "Pulp Fiction". You only have to look at how they leaked into the public consciousness & their indelible mark on pop. culture to understand the lasting effect they have. They are both great movies in their own right & deserve their praise. No question about it.

But!

I dunno though if it was the relative "failure" of Jackie Brown (arguably Tarantino's most mature film to date), but since then he has gone on a steady slide downhill into the realms of B-movie geekgasms. "Kill Bill" & "Death Proof" were clinching proof for me that Quentin had succumbed to his own geeky excess & created movies that were one part pastiche & two parts of said fanboy excess, with a soupcon of his own ego taking over.

By ego, look at his needless & thoroughly self-absorbed extended cameo in "Death Proof" for a perfect example of where the man's mind exists. So far, we had been asked to sit through 45 minutes - I counted - of women nattering about nothing (oh I'm sorry, it was Tarantino's famously brilliant dialogue) & on comes Quentin, flanked by two girls, drinking like a maniac & effectively saying to the audience "haha! F*ck you! I could p*ss in a fountain pen and still get my scripts approved!"

I also notice that he has started attaching his name to similar genre pulp with the addition of "Quentin Tarantino presents" to several posters, as if to confirm that he's totally entrenched in the world of Z-list exploitation cinema.

So on that, I don't expect "Inglorious Bastards" to be anything more than a continuation of this pointless aping of genre trash with the backing of a huge budget to let his geeky excess shine through.

Don't get me wrong though, I would like to see the Tarantino of old come back, but methinks for that to happen he needs his ego severely beaten back, and his budgets slashed; this might force him to be more considered in his writing rather than thinking copying Grindhouse cinema is somehow a good idea.

Running Bing

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Yeah? Honestly, I find he's one of the worst writers I can think of. His dialogue is just woeful, and most of the time it only works because of who's delivering it. The whole speech that Christopher Walken gave about sticking the watch up his ass, that was absolute gold because it was Chris mother****ing Walken. Take away the great actors, and you can see Tarantino's writing for how awful it is, like in Death Proof.

Sorry, this is starting to turn into another Tarantino bashing thread.

Yes but a lot of the time when he is writing he is writing with an actor in mind. You say it is only good becuase Christopher Walken is saying it but it was written for him.


Personally I think the dialogue in Res Dogs, PF and Jackie Brown completely changed the way people write dialogue in films.


Kill Bill and Death Proof are slightly different stories because he is trying to emulate the dialogue in specific Genres. Being an avid fan of paracinema I feel he got the Kung Fu/Chambara/Spaghetti Western dialogue in Kill Bill and the cheesey exploitation style dialogue in Death Proof spot on. Its supposed to very cheesey and silly in the latter film and not intended to be representative of the way real women speak.

The Bollox

I thought, and still think that Death Proof is a fantastic film. It was the film that made me want to watch the 80's car chase movies (Vanishing Point, Two Lane Blacktop, Gone In 60 Seconds) and it was only after watching these films and then watching Death proof again that I saw how he took that genre from the graveyard, gave it the naughties look and still embodied what those movies were all about: fast cars and cheesy dialogue that make you wish your bag / box of popcorn would never empty. It was this film that relit my love of american muscle cars and I love Tarantino for that.

there are bits of his films that I don't really like, but as a whole I love every film me has made and can watch them over and over again. He's not the best director I look out for, but probably the most fun

Basq

Looks like Simon Pegg has left the project now anyways..

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37969

humanji

I wasn't mad on Death Proof. I loved every scene with Kurt Russell and pretty much hated everything else. The last scene was just a show case for a stunt woman, and the first section was just to indulge in his foot fetish.

That said, I'm surious as to what he'll do with a WW2 film. I do love WW2 caper movies with all-star casts, but I'm worried that Tarantino is just going to make a hash of it.

But I am excited to see dialogue about 1940's pop culture!

Cole Hauser should be cast as Tony. He looks identical to Peter Hooten whom played the role in the original. Watching the film atm and I'd swear that it was Hauser.

bluto63

Best news from the OP is that Adam Sandler will NOT be in this film

JP Liz

Is Brad Pitt still attached?

faceman

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Yeah? Honestly, I find he's one of the worst writers I can think of. His dialogue is just woeful, and most of the time it only works because of who's delivering it. The whole speech that Christopher Walken gave about sticking the watch up his ass, that was absolute gold because it was Chris mother****ing Walken. Take away the great actors, and you can see Tarantino's writing for how awful it is, like in Death Proof.

Couldnt agree more. his best movie was his least successful commercially, Jackie Brown.

Not bothered to watch Deathproof.

Gonzo

I love most of Tarintino's movies with the exception of Death Proof which I hated.

Shryke

I can't bear the dialogue. It's completely out of place, cheesy and forced. He doesn't write characters, he just writes himself talking to himself for an hour and a half. Having said that Pulp Ficiton, Resevoir Dogs and Jackie Brown were great back in the day. KB Vol.1 impressed on the violence level but I struggle to view it again as I have to listen to all the hokey badassery type **** that comes from peoples mouths. He's a bit too attached to 'mother****er' too.

I like the sound of the cast for this though. Some interesting choices, I'd watch it.

Inglorious

It seems that Tarantino has cast the main Nazi villain for the film ( http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38125 ). He's gone with Christoph Waltz, a German TV actor. I'm just relieved he didn't pick Michael Parks...

Vic Vinegar

faceman wrote: »

Not bothered to watch Deathproof.

Good idea! spare yourself the incredible boredom you would suffer!

Sanjuro

It's almost impossible to talk about Tarantino in any film forum without the conversation turning into hyperbolic Tarantino defense versus absolute vitriolic hatred. However, as someone who's not so emotionally invested in the guy's work, I do think that Tarantino's career is on a steady downward spiral in terms of quality. His early work was very very good. He was a filmmaker who seemed fiercly determained to make his mark. But since he's been given free reign, he's just making increasingly dull films. Kill Bill was little more than an interesting experiment in style. It's pretty forgettable, especially when placed next to Pulp Fiction. And Deathproof, in fact, the whole Grindhouse double bill was proof that you cant consciously recreate a style that originally was a product of small budgets and improvisation. Grindhouse was far too contrived.

To be honest, I know little about Inglorious Bastards other than a plot outline and some casting. I'm not gonna read the script and I'm not going to read set reports and what not. I'm very curious as to what the film will be like, but I'm not going to get into a fanboy seizure over it. But having witnessed how Tarantino's career has gone, I don't hold out very much hope for the film.

Galvasean

The Bollox wrote: »

I thought, and still think that Death Proof is a fantastic film. It was the film that made me want to watch the 80's car chase movies (Vanishing Point, Two Lane Blacktop, Gone In 60 Seconds) and it was only after watching these films and then watching Death proof again that I saw how he took that genre from the graveyard, gave it the naughties look and still embodied what those movies were all about:

If you ask me this type of film was crap then and is still very much crap now. You can homage crap films and they will still be crap.

R N' R

Yeah im a big fan but i'll admit he is going in the wrong direction. Am I the only one that thinks the film sounds like its gona bomb?

senordingdong

Death Proof is still an enigma to me.

Definatley looking forward to this, especially since it has Brad Pitt leading, coupled worth its release date, could be a good play off of Tom Cruise in Valkryie.

Would have been interesting to see Simon Pegg in it.

Galvasean

I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. I think the criticism he got for, not to mention the fairly poor Box Office intake of Death Proof may make Tarantino bring out his A game.

Heisenberg.

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indough

The Scientist wrote: »

I find this view surprising, seeing as one of the greatest cult classics of the 90's was a movie shot with a non existant budget and filmed almost entirely in a warehouse.
The dialogue was the movie.

also surprising given that its his dialogue that he's most known for - sure he has a lot of what could be referred to as empty dialogue but thats because he concentrates on character building

i get the impression that either the reports of the cast for this movie are all wrong or that maybe we're purposefully being wound up...even if it is accurate i'll wait to see it before i pass judgement as he's yet to deliver a movie that i'd personally consider bad

pixelburp

Gaviscon wrote: »

I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. I think the criticism he got for, not to mention the fairly poor Box Office intake of Death Proof may make Tarantino bring out his A game.

Naw I doubt it; Tarrantino now seems to exist in his own world of geekgasm, so I can't see him interpretting the criticism against Deathproof as anything but a confirmation that his movies just aren't for the mainstream. Like I said earlier, I loved Quentin's earlier work - so much energy & wit - but then he listened to his inner geek & became the B-movie champion. I'll watch this space with optimism, but a guarded one.

JP Liz

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/10/pitt-inglorious.html

First Look: Brad Pitt in Quentin Tarantino's 'Inglourious Basterds'

MementoMori

I for one am glad that Simon Pegg had to drop out as Michael Fassbender has replaced him.:p

Looks like it will be interesting one for summer 2009

From IMDB

Brad Pitt ... Lt. Aldo Raine

Cloris Leachman

Diane Kruger ... Bridget von Hammersmark

Mike Myers ... General Ed Fenech

B.J. Novak ... PFC Utivich

Eli Roth ... Sgt. Donnie Donowitz

Samm Levine ... PFC Hirschberg

Til Schweiger ... Stiglitz

Michael Fassbender ... Lt. Archie Hicox

Julie Dreyfus ... Francesca Mondino

Daniel Brühl ... Frederick Zoller / Dieter Hellstrom

Rod Taylor

Mélanie Laurent ... Shosanna Dreyfus

Jacky Ido ... Marcel

Paul Rust ... Andy

Omar Doom

Ludger Pistor ... Wolfgang

Christoph Waltz ... Col. Hans Landa

Michael Bacall ... Zimmerman

August Diehl

Richard Sammel

Martin Wuttke

Soenke Möhring

Denis Menochet

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/

JWAD

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Ironically, Death Proof impressed me quite a bit.

Yep, I liked it too. Kurt Russell was absolutely brilliant in it, particularly at the end.
Grindhouse DVD set is out next january. 'Machete' gets its own movie release too done by Robert Rodriguez.

I notice that Mike Myers is in the new movie. Dont tell me, he dons that 'English' accent again? :rolleyes:

No matter how silly a Tarantino sounds to me before release (I definitely wasnt looking forward to Kill Bill before it went out), I always enjoy them (just like Kill Bill )

Blisterman

Mike Myers is a very interesting choice.
Could work though. Look at the sort of films John Travolta was doing before Pulp Fiction.

the flananator

I avoided Kill Bill for years, thinking the revenge movie had been done to death while mindless gore was never my thing. However upon purchasing the Tarantino box set earlier this month, I finally sat down to watch volumes 1 and 2, and suprisingly found myself enjoying them. They're not classics, but good films all the same.

Deathproof is a bit of an enigma to me; the 1st 45 minutes are enthralling, but the 2nd half of the movie seems totally out of tone with the 1st and completey ruined the film for me. It starts in first gear, moves its way rapidly up to fourth, but upon reaching 5th it suddenly plummets down to 2nd again for the second part of the story and stays there. Planet Terror is much better!

Anyway my point is Inglorious Basterds will decide whether or not Tarantino's still got it, so personally I'm very much looking forward to it.

evad_lhorg

whats with the spelling of the movie title? inglourious basterds?

grames_bond

Galvasean wrote: »

I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. I think the criticism he got for, not to mention the fairly poor Box Office intake of Death Proof may make Tarantino bring out his A game.

i really liked death proof, great movie and better on the second viewing, i am lookin forward to IB....should be fun! worried abotu mike myres in it tho!

Serenity Now!

MementoMori wrote: »

I for one am glad that Simon Pegg had to drop out as Michael Fassbender has replaced him.:p

Looks like it will be interesting one for summer 2009

From IMDB


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/

Is this the first mainstream movie involving Germans that does not have Thomas 'Fegelein!!!' Kretschmann in it???

Basq

Press release.. I still don't get the mispelling of the title - anyone?!

**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**

INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS WILL OPEN NATIONWIDE ON AUGUST 21, 2009

December 31, 2008 – The Weinstein Company (TWC) and Universal Pictures announced today that Academy Award-winning director Quentin Tarantino’s World War II epic, Inglourious Basterds, starring Brad Pitt, will open domestically August 21, 2009. The announcement was made by Harvey Weinstein, co-chairman of TWC and David Linde, co-chairman of Universal Pictures who are partners in the film. TWC and Universal are co-financing and co-presenting the film with TWC handling domestic distribution and Universal handling international distribution. International release dates will be announced shortly.

Running Bing

basquille wrote: »

Press release.. I still don't get the mispelling of the title - anyone?!

Maybe some sort of censorship?


Personally I was surprised to hear of a high profile Hollywood film with "Bastard" in the title. I know its just a normal word and not inherently offensive but you know how people get.

Maybe theatres were worried about putting Bastard up on the title boards or certain magazines/papers were worried about carrying it. All silly really but in these politically correct times unfortunately probable.

Basq

Babybing wrote: »

Maybe some sort of censorship?


Personally I was surprised to hear of a high profile Hollywood film with "Bastard" in the title. I know its just a normal word and not inherently offensive but you know how people get.

Maybe theatres were worried about putting Bastard up on the title boards or certain magazines/papers were worried about carrying it. All silly really but in these politically correct times unfortunately probable.

Fair enough... but "INGLOURIOUS"?!

Running Bing

basquille wrote: »

Fair enough... but "INGLOURIOUS"?!

Lol, didnt even notice that...cant explain that one:D

JP Liz

Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPLgczvFlO4

Brow

basquille wrote: »

Press release.. I still don't get the mispelling of the title - anyone?!

I read a synopsis somewhere (cant find it now) that Pitts character can only read or write at a very basic level. Maybe the twist on the spelling has something to do with it.

thermo66

The problem with Brad Pitt is his acting skills are overshadowed by his private life. Personally i'm so sick of him and that skeletor and their troop of children, that when i see either of them in a movie i avoid it . .

Never rated either of them anyway.

Pitt isn't bad i guess but Jolie is a one trick pony !!

the flananator

I was really looking forward to this but trailer looks really...crap.

Heisenberg.

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