If we ever got invaded...

Tabnabs

Just looking at the recent troubles in Georgia and the citizenship having to do a runner in advance of Russian tanks, what if...

Ireland was invaded by UK/USA/France/Iceland/Russia/aliens and you were fast asleep in your bed at home. We have a small but determined military who fought valiantly and died brutally. Tanks, planes and artillery are pounding the towns and cities and it's time to go.

Where would you go and what would you take?

What's your escape plan?

Leadership

Dyflin wrote: »

Where would you go and what would you take?

What's your escape plan?

A lot depends on where the beach head is, I would imagine Dublin would get hit by a airborne/light seaborne assault raid and Cork would be the target for a heavy port so Mayo look favourite for a nice hiding spot.

Escape plan is simple, source a 4x4 and keep off main roads and head off road within a mile of potential busy junctions. Hide during the day and move after 02:30 and park up again by first light.

What would I take....... Family, supplies and my old escape kit from my forces days. I have a lot of outdoor gear like tents, sleeping bags and fishing gear so those would do me.

Fad

Id say embrace our new Alien Overlords, rise to the top and then strike when ive been given a position of trust.

Fratton Fred

I guess it depends on wh invades. if its the french, then staying at home and shouting nasty words at them should be enough to defend my home, alternatively if it is anyone other than the UK head north or across the Irish sea I suppose with 4 million other people.

if its the UK, well, I'd just get my union Flag out and put on my England shirt I suppose

If its Aliens, then I'd head to my sister in laws in Finglas, not even Aliens are stupid enough to go there.:D

Hagar

Just when you think you got rid of the last lot...

Fratton Fred

Hagar wrote: »

Just when you think you got rid of the last lot...

damn those Vikings :P

a5y

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I guess it depends on wh invades. if its the french, then staying at home and shouting nasty words at them should be enough to defend my home,

I fart in your general direction / Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries. - That sort of thing?

a5y

Flee the country, try and get asylum abroad (or be an illegal alien) and raise pro-Irish feelings, get EU military support for war, a speach of sweeping political generalisations and statements in front of a large crowd on St. Patricks day.

Basically try and talk another country into a counter invasion I suppose. Dunno if they'd be any nicer than the last hypothetical lot though.

slapper

go to my gun safe take wat i have
yhen raid a gun shop dor more stuff and go to the land i no best a local in his homeland on his home ground fights with the effectiveness of a platoon of soldiers

whydave

did this not happen ....... sh*t that's next week !!!
then i will be overlord of you alllllllllllllll

67AQUALUNG

It would most definatly resort to geurilla(not gorilla,unless the fighting makes its way to dublin zoo)tactics,hit and run.:rolleyes:

Jimbobak47

Id die fighting every last enemy down to my dying breath!! even if im only in the RDF!!:D ah id say the provos would make a comeback big time.

Mahatma coat

Ohh I'd fight till there was nothin left but Poo to throw at them

diverdriver

Ok, if it was the USA or France. I would probably collaborate. The Americans would sort us out quickly. Losing a war to America is the best way to get money off them. As for the French, well they have an enviable lifestyle. They dress well, the women look good. The food is great. Who wouldn't want to be French?

If it was the UK, we probably wouldn't notice because we're practically british anyway and in any case all of the above would only invade us in order to save us from yet another Fianna Fail regime. God knows we need someone to take out that shower of criminals.:mad:

I would be worried about the Russians though. They wouldn't tolerate any kind of resistance. Nasty!:(

Aliens, I don't know, it depends on what kind of aliens invade. If it was the woman's planet of Amazonia. I may surrender. But Klingons are scary and Romulans worse than the Russians. As for the Borg, well 'resistance is futile' you know!

The Icelanders would be the worst though. I've been there and they are hardy people. They would give us a hard time. Worst of all, a pint cost a tenner. The ultimate nightmare:eek:

Disonyxiated

Wait O.o' We're practically British? Not sure what part of the country you're from but round these parts you'd be stabbed for saying that. Just saying~ :] Whatever happened to nationalism? Or has the Celtic Tiger ruined that too?

Em, well the army would be pretty much wiped out! So I'd avoid hanging around them for too long! Then well I guess the best thing you could do is to just do nothing for a few weeks. Let them plough through, take over & start to settle in. That'll give you time to suss out the situation & work out a practical guerilla campaign. Chances are we'd pull together a random bunch of ''Wind That Shakes The Barley'' types that'd be good for inflicting attrition damage against the enemy which would sap the political will to stay in the country. I'm talking about simple stuff like good ol'car-bombings, sniping, that kind of stuff which makes their life here less than enjoyable. Also, might consider taking action against collaborators. Just Sayin' >:]

Oooh yeah, somebody mentioned grabbing a 4X4 & driving around by night? Darkness isn't what it used to be. The heat-signature coming off that vehicle would be like a Christmas Tree to any modern attack choppers, support aircraft & infantry NVE O.o Especially if there's movement restrictions I'd avoid driving around too much! Probably better to dig out an underground place to camp it out.

Either way, the best bet would be to let it all settle then gradually build up a resistance. It won't happen over night, but it'd work out better than having 50,000 of us throwing stones on D-Day & getting mowed down.

-Chris

Hard Larry

Well if I hadn't already died or got taken prisoner in the initial invasion, I'd just sit tight at home. Obviously I wouldn't hang around if there was a mass genocide going on but lest say the invaders are LIKE previous occupiers of this country.

First thing I'd do is head to the pub and carry on with my day to day life and wait for all the walts/airsofters/paintballers/online-gamers/romantic nationalists/gun-toting Chavs/people who've seen Wind That Shakes the Barley all to Martyr themselves for the cause in an egotistical leadership struggle (Martyrdom doesn't cover those who die of exposure in the Wicklow Mountains so bring a pull-over) then when all the dust settles and the gunsmoke clears from the valleys and The Wolfe Tones are given another 50 years worth of lyrics....then I'll set up a resistance.

Until then...Slainte *Raises a glass*

Rovi

Study this instructional video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAqB1jDPFEE

getz

Dyflin wrote: »

Just looking at the recent troubles in Georgia and the citizenship having to do a runner in advance of Russian tanks, what if...

Ireland was invaded by UK/USA/France/Iceland/Russia/aliens and you were fast asleep in your bed at home. We have a small but determined military who fought valiantly and died brutally. Tanks, planes and artillery are pounding the towns and cities and it's time to go.

Where would you go and what would you take?

What's your escape plan?

why dont you do like you did when the english invaded? sit there and bitch about it for the next years

dara95

run the french are coming!!!

diverdriver

Wait O.o' We're practically British? Not sure what part of the country you're from but round these parts you'd be stabbed for saying that. Just saying~ :] Whatever happened to nationalism? Or has the Celtic Tiger ruined that too?

So you're saying we're not practically british? What's you favourite football team? Go to the nearest town and look at the shops. You might find the odd British one or two. What TV do you watch. What food do you eat. I'll bet you don't eat snails or frogs legs? What language are we speaking? Have you ever been to England. It isn't that different is it? Have you been to France or Iceland? They are really different.

We're very similar because they were here long enough and we adopted a lot of their ways.

I always think, it would have been a lot better if the French had invaded. We would all speak great French, love our wine and food. The women would dress beautifully and we'd have great pastries and bread and cheese. And joie de Vivre. But no we had the bad luck to get the English, with their bad food and rather dour outlook on life. Lucky us:mad:

samhail

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=58458040&postcount=3

Boston

I'd put into action operation zombie.

Echo1

Im ex-RDF and if it came to it id def be leaving my current job to take up my old position!!

clinkers

may I take this oppertunity to welcome our new overlords and offer my sevices as governer of the newly freed people of your new serfs.

borisbullrunner

find a jeep or truck, pack up wit supplies , rifle and ammo, get as many people as possible, flee to the mountains set up camp. and by night raid the enemies camps if possible. try start a militia. woooo Ireland can never fall. she never has, the brits just thought they were in control... they werent

Hank_Scorpio

I wouldn't do anything. Nothing I could do. I wouldn't go anywhere, where can you go with the sea all around you. Just board up the gaf and be thankful that I haven't cut the grass in 2 years or painted the rusty fence and gate. The car goes in the underground lab anyway - so it would just look like a derelict house.

I'm sorted.

Craigsy

Well an interesting topic indeed...

USA- They'd probably just nuke us so no point planning anything

UK- Best not discuss a touchty subject atm, besides the boys have their hands full in Afghanistan. Go Ross Kemp!:D

France- No worries, they'll run away and surrender.

Aliens- Well clearly if anyone has ever gone to the cinema they'll wipe out the majority of human life, then the unlikely hero or president will overcome impossible odds and coincidences to defeat the alien armada.....

Hmmm, now theres a picture, President McAlesse standing on a burning mothership with a gatling gun, thats the kind of leader i'd vote for

dubtom

I can't help looking on the negative side.With our new overlords the country would fall into decline almost immediatly,thousands of jobs lost,dole Q's with feck all money at the end of it,people standing in line for paltry food parcels,...
oh wait,have we been invaded?:eek:

Grudaire

Start everyone speaking Irish - that'll freak the absolute **** out of them!


Remember - If we take out the G-Men we take out their inteligence

I reckon it'll look like the first 2 minutes of this video....

enjoy the walt....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAebLaIfYGs

although I'm always reminded of the Irish landscape whenever I play Operation Flashpoint...

mercucio

borisbullrunner wrote: »

find a jeep or truck, pack up wit supplies , rifle and ammo, get as many people as possible, flee to the mountains set up camp. and by night raid the enemies camps if possible. try start a militia. woooo Ireland can never fall. she never has, the brits just thought they were in control... they werent

hmmm sounds like a film i watched before!?

samhail

i bet its called red dawn.

Coriolanus

I'd be one of the idiots with Michael Collins and the Wind that Shakes running through my head. Take to the hills with a gun, plenty of ammo and a lock of my beloveds hair.

Ie: Take to the hills with a gun, !@#$ all ammo and die of exposure most likely.

slapper

Nevore wrote: »

I'd be one of the idiots with Michael Collins and the Wind that Shakes running through my head. Take to the hills with a gun, plenty of ammo and a lock of my beloveds hair.

Ie: Take to the hills with a gun, !@#$ all ammo and die of exposure most likely.

:pac::pac:
a little training helps:D

goonmaster

remove all the road signs so they cant use their maps!

Coriolanus

slapper wrote: »

:pac::pac:
a little training helps:D

I don't think they're recruiting for the foreseeable future, unfortunately. :P

Denerick

I'm going to answer this seriously - this post is more like a short story!

In the situation that the army were over-run and the major urban centers were taken, I'd take to the hills with my copy of Tom Barry's 'Guerrila Days in Ireland', raid the nearest vacant military barracks for whatever small arms available and pack up the jeep. I'd go deep into the mountains and sleep rough for the first night and dump the arms. That night I'd go round all the adjacent villages and pick out any of the able bodied men but leave a couple to take care of the women and children so as to 'go on the run' or act as a sleeper cell within the jurisdiction of our new overlords.

Guerrila warriors learn 'on the job' so to speak. Since our previous national army would in this situation be executed to a man/woman, we would have a few men and women of military experience. The rest would be rookies and it would take time to learn the intricacies of a Guerrila War. They fight in their local area's and know their terrain to a tee. I'd use that. Another fundamental of Guerrila units is that their first and primary goal is to survive - I'd only ever organise very minor attacks on the enemy, principally for arms or the occasional 'shot' on the new 'snakes' (IE, indigenous collaborative police force). Make it a trial of strength. I'd rely on similar guerrila efforts around the county so as to prevent the enemy from consolidating their resources on taking out my plucky band of 30 volunteers

With time, I'd organise a bigger attack, such as an ambush on a mid sized military convoy.

As their reprisals eventually become worse and worse and make an intolerable strain on civilian life, I'd rally the troops, and set up a field GHQ. I'd devise a unique communications pattern (Possibly with the aid of IRA veterans - after all, the enemy of my enemy is my friend) and organise all the national units to prepare for bigger attacks. Hithertoo the entire effort has relied on local iniative, and in this scenario it has been remarkably succesful. Talented men such as myself spring up across the country and organise units similar to my own. I would take the lead in organising them, regularising training techniques, and creating a hierarchal officer control. Local iniative would remain imperative but now at least it would be possible for units to co-operate and collaborate for bigger missions.

At this stage our numbers would swell. International opinion would be aroused.

In the situation that the invaders are some sort of global superpower who effectively rule the world, I would invisage that Ireland's example would spark Guerrila war in other countries. That would take the strain of the occupier off. In the situation where it was an alien invasion, I'd also rely on us adapting to their superior technology and weaponry - and hence the word would spread globally. In the situtation were it was a non EU power, I would rely on our boffins and spin doctors abroad to arouse sympathy for the Irish cause and so force their governments to arrange an invasion of liberation. We would act as the fifth column within Ireland, striking in unison and our small units would converge on Dublin. We would seize Leinster House and restore the Irish Republic.

At this stage, with the enemy on the back foot and their HQ no longer under their control, our entire population would rise up and overthrow the invader. The foreign armies of liberation would gleefully come to the aid of our active service units in butchering mercilessly the remnant of the invading force. No prisoners would be taken (Under the assumption that they were cruel overlords)

Following the glorious war (Which would take around 9 years to go through the 3 phases of Guerrila war and the final stage of open warfare) Ireland would be free once again. A grateful population would demand to make me King - I would graciously refuse and settle down in a small farm in Ulster. At 30 years old I'd be a living legend, a great Irish patriot who refused supreme political power.

I'd then write my memoir.

Upon my death the Irish Republic would canonise me as their national saint; my funeral would attract 40 million mourners. I would become a hero more glorious than Caesar, Napoleon and Saladin combined.

Thank you for taking the time to read the end product of an overactive and vainglorious imagination

junder

Your ideas have been noted and past on to the relevent authoritys

Denerick

junder wrote: »

Your ideas have been noted and past on to the relevent authoritys

Make sure to have the caveat, 'Copyright Denerick, that strange chap on boards.ie.'

Bragadin

it would depend on the invader and the length of time i knew it was coming. It also depends on why we went to war. If we were waging a war of aggression then i probably wouldn't resist an invasion.

If it was the UK/france/usa, i don't think i would resist militantly. Chances are that attitutes at home and cost constraitns would send them home sooner or later, resistance would just make life harder for us. If it was the russians, it could be a differnt story. I'd say even the irish army could defeat the icelanders.

Aliens? Hand me a gun.

Manic Moran

Boston wrote: »

I'd put into action operation zombie.

I was going to ask... Is there much of a difference between a Zombie Survival Plan and an Invasion Survival Plan?

NTM

KevinObrien101

Who would be stupid enough to invade our land? After all we are the uncontrollable IRISH!

goonmaster

Well zombies might not have the same tatical skills that would be associated with the military. It would be more like defending yourself from a stampeed of starving animals who want to eat you.

Manic Moran

I must, of course, point out the existance of this scholarly analysis of such a scenario.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055232811

NTM

Bragadin

I'd prefer a zombie outbreak then an alien invasion. If aliens can reach the planet you have to ad least assume they have more advanced technology then us. That doesn't mean they are invincible, it may mean we outnumber them though.

Ball_of_Sex

I'd fend them off with my Johnson!

cork1

maybe we should welcome our new rulers! they cant be as bad as the current ones!!

mega man

Personally I would just turn the other cheek

realismpol

diverdriver wrote: »

So you're saying we're not practically british? What's you favourite football team? Go to the nearest town and look at the shops. You might find the odd British one or two. What TV do you watch. What food do you eat. I'll bet you don't eat snails or frogs legs? What language are we speaking? Have you ever been to England. It isn't that different is it? Have you been to France or Iceland? They are really different.

We're very similar because they were here long enough and we adopted a lot of their ways.

I always think, it would have been a lot better if the French had invaded. We would all speak great French, love our wine and food. The women would dress beautifully and we'd have great pastries and bread and cheese. And joie de Vivre. But no we had the bad luck to get the English, with their bad food and rather dour outlook on life. Lucky us:mad:

No offense man but your talking out your backside. Speak for yourself why don't you. Just because you see a few maplins stores around and a good deal of people follow english football doesn't make us british citizens. We have our own country our own flag our own constitution our own language, heritage, sense of national identity, our own national government and armed forces. We are an independent country, we don't even share the same currency with the u.k in case you haven't noticed. We haven't adopted 'a lot of their ways' We just share the same language as them and watch some of their programs because they share the same language as us. If anything we have more american content on our screens then english.

I've lived in england and the english are not like the irish. I don't mind the english i always find them easy to get along with but don't come on here sprouting *** about how we are practically british. And to answer one of your own questions is england very different to ireland. ammm yes you ever been to london or anywhere else in the u.k?. Ireland is a million times a better place to live then england. Thats why ireland always appears on the top ten lists of countries to live and the u.k never does. Even yahoo's most recent list of best places to live for quality of life ireland was number 7 just behind canada and austrailia.

What language are we speaking? English just like americans, canadians, australians, new zealanders and south africans do. Are they loyal british subjects too. What a stupid point to make. The frogs legs argument man now your takin the p**s. You do realise the french don't eat frog legs for breakfast, dinner and tea. Also you speak like the sun shines out of french people's as((s. You think france is all that go and try survive in a paris ghetto for a night and come back to me and tell me if you see beautiful women prancing around with unicorns and chocolate rivers, ewww la la.

England is a densley populated urban ghetto basically with some nice country spots. Ireland is a beautiful sparsely populated country with a rich culture heritage and sense of national identity. Big difference. By your logic we are now german subjects too because you know all those Aldi's and lidels setting up. What about the burger kings, mickey d's and chinese restaurants. Its called multinationalism. Do yourself a favour lay off the coronation street 'mate' Aowl Rogh!

getz

realismpol wrote: »

No offense man but your talking out your backside. Speak for yourself why don't you. Just because you see a few maplins stores around and a good deal of people follow english football doesn't make us british citizens. We have our own country our own flag our own constitution our own language, heritage, sense of national identity, our own national government and armed forces. We are an independent country, we don't even share the same currency with the u.k in case you haven't noticed. We haven't adopted 'a lot of their ways' We just share the same language as them and watch some of their programs because they share the same language as us. If anything we have more american content on our screens then english.

I've lived in england and the english are not like the irish. I don't mind the english i always find them easy to get along with but don't come on here sprouting *** about how we are practically british. And to answer one of your own questions is england very different to ireland. ammm yes you ever been to london or anywhere else in the u.k?. Ireland is a million times a better place to live then england. Thats why ireland always appears on the top ten lists of countries to live and the u.k never does. Even yahoo's most recent list of best places to live for quality of life ireland was number 7 just behind canada and austrailia.

What language are we speaking? English just like americans, canadians, australians, new zealanders and south africans do. Are they loyal british subjects too. What a stupid point to make. The frogs legs argument man now your takin the p**s. You do realise the french don't eat frog legs for breakfast, dinner and tea. Also you speak like the sun shines out of french people's as((s. You think france is all that go and try survive in a paris ghetto for a night and come back to me and tell me if you see beautiful women prancing around with unicorns and chocolate rivers, ewww la la.

England is a densley populated urban ghetto basically with some nice country spots. Ireland is a beautiful sparsely populated country with a rich culture heritage and sense of national identity. Big difference. By your logic we are now german subjects too because you know all those Aldi's and lidels setting up. What about the burger kings, mickey d's and chinese restaurants. Its called multinationalism. Do yourself a favour lay off the coronation street 'mate' Aowl Rogh!

i agree ireland is a very lovely country, but so is scotland,northern ireland wales,and large parts of england,do not look at london,glasgow birmingham ect,and think that is all there is to england,most of the big british cities have a large population of a ethnic background,within the next10 years,so will ireland. yes mate the irish are no different from any of the british countries,that is why irish men and their families came and settled in the uk without any culture problems,and are still comming over.

kincsem

I doubt the invaders could get Fianna fail out of power.

I'd start a Dad's Army Appreciation Society which would morph into a highly tuned bunch of freedom fighters ditherers .