Quick question.

Plug

Hello
Just wondering how much the 'asylum seekers' and refugees cost Ireland each year?
cheers

truecrippler

Another way to put it is: "How much is the Big Issue"?

Plug

truecrippler wrote: »

Another way to put it is: "How much is the Big Issue"?

Do they still sell them things?:D

Enii

Well each adult asylum seeker is given something like 19 euro a week. so multiply the number of asylum seekers by this amount and you might see how much it costs.

AckwelFoley

ONE ZILLION KATRILLION DOLLARS!

roughly

truecrippler

snyper wrote: »

ONE ZILLION KATRILLION DOLLARS!

roughly

Hey man we're using Euro's now, otherwise you're correct.

Plug

Enii wrote: »

Well each adult asylum seeker is given something like 19 euro a week. so multiply the number of asylum seekers by this amount and you might see how much it costs.

Ah come on now, they don't live in cardboard boxes do they?

Cool_CM

About three fitty

Enii

OK housing plus 19 euro.

Plug

Plug wrote: »

Hello
Just wondering how much the 'asylum seekers' and refugees cost Ireland each year?
cheers

2 pints of Guinness and a packet of Scampi fries.

dsmythy

One meeeeellion dollars!

Heisenberg.

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Plug

Enii wrote: »

OK housing plus 19 euro.

Is that the only thing they cost Ireland, housing and €19 a week? what about refugees?

Plug

The Scientist wrote: »

racist.

Scientist

Macha

http://www.ria.gov.ie/statistics/

Might get some stats here. Just bear in mind with accommodation costs that it is completely the Irish government's fault, through their policies, that the cost of accommodation is so high in Ireland. They also have failed to built sufficient emergency accommodation, not only for refugees and asylum seekers, but also for battered parents, etc. So these people end up being put in hotels & b&bs to the tune of about €20m/year.

EDIT: http://www.ria.gov.ie/filestore/publications/Profile_of_RIA_Accommodation2.pdf

Case in point. Pathetic waste of taxpayers money & totally avoidable.

Enii

Plug wrote: »

Is that the only thing they cost Ireland, housing and €19 a week? what about refugees?

What about refugees?

While their application is being processed they get the above.

Then when their refugee aplication has been approved they are allowed to work in Ireland.

Plug

Enii wrote: »

What about refugees?

While their application is being processed they get the above.

Then when their refugee aplication has been approved they are allowed to work in Ireland.

and the dole is €197
You don't know my original question?

Jimbo

Bloody foreigners taking our jobs and our houses and our money

Plug

jimbo78 wrote: »

Bloody foreigners taking our jobs and our houses and our money

9 in 10 new jobs go to them;)

Kold

This thread lacks swastikas! 卐卐卐卐卐

Holsten

They cost too much.

CtrlSource

Hey Plug,

Quick question, why is the thread entitled "Quick question?" Could it be that you were being ironic and knew that it wouldn't be a quick discussion at all? ;P

i give this thread another hour, maybe less, before the good people upstairs put a chain across it!

35notout

Although the question may be quick, I doubt the answer will be:)

mbren

Why does it even matter??

Jimbo

Serious answer - €300 million

Piste

Hmmph I'm sure our universities that now want us to pay fees would love a slice of that 300m pie....

CtrlSource

Piste wrote: »

Hmmph I'm sure our universities that now want us to pay fees would love a slice of that 300m pie....

As would the public hospitals, schools, myriad charities.... the list is endless.

What's your point?

Kold

Piste wrote: »

Hmmph I'm sure our universities that now want us to pay fees would love a slice of that 300m pie....

Yes but I'm sure that these people love being alive.

Slidey

Cant believe this aint up yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xg5aBCiy_g

CtrlSource

slideways wrote: »

Cant believe this aint up yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xg5aBCiy_g

Absolutely classic!

connundrum

How much would it be to actually purchase a refugee or asylum seeker?

dsmythy

connundrum wrote: »

How much would it be to actually purchase a refugee or asylum seeker?

Just ask your local dodgy employer. 2 Euro an hour maybe.

eddiehead

CtrlSource wrote: »

As would the public hospitals, schools, myriad charities.... the list is endless.

What's your point?

Think you just made it for her

CtrlSource

That we would be better spending it elsewhere? That could be said about so many things. But i believe it's 300 million well spent

Heisenberg.

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dsmythy

CtrlSource wrote: »

That we would be better spending it elsewhere? That could be said about so many things. But i believe it's 300 million well spent

Some of it is well spent. That total also includes failed asylum seekers which is an annoying waste of money.

Jimbo

dsmythy wrote: »

Some of it is well spent. That total also includes failed asylum seekers which is an annoying waste of money.

And it includes costs of court cases taken by asylum seekers

Holsten

jimbo78 wrote: »

Serious answer - €300 million

Insane... such a waste of money.

Piste

CtrlSource wrote: »

What's your point?

My point was in my post, did you not understand it? The universities would like that money.

dsmythy

Piste wrote: »

My point was in my post, did you not understand it? The universities would like that money.

Let's get to the crux of the matter. I want that money.

randylonghorn

Better question: how much has been wasted / is still being wasted on ...

... politician's junkets
... "consultants"
... badly managed public projects
... golf courses (presumably for the aquatic sports tourism market these days!)
... and so on and so forth

Refugees and asylum seekers are always easy targets. By all means let's have the system as tight and as economical as possible as we can within the boundaries of fairness and human dignity.

But let's remember that this is a very small crumb of the cake and not allow ourselves to be distracted, and let our politicians off the hook on the bigger picture ... because they would just love that!!

Seriously, with all the money which flowed through this country in the last 10 - 15 years, where is the safety-net, the provision for bad times ahead? Where is all that revenue gone? Where is the infrastructure it could have paid for? Where was the good economic management?

Or did our politicians just feel it was more important to maintain the "feel good" factor (and hence the votes which kept them in power) as long as possible?

Seems to me those are far more important questions, Plug.

OPENROAD

randylonghorn wrote: »

Better question: how much has been wasted / is still being wasted on ...

... politician's junkets
... "consultants"
... badly managed public projects
... golf courses (presumably for the aquatic sports tourism market these days!)
... and so on and so forth

Refugees and asylum seekers are always easy targets. By all means let's have the system as tight and as economical as possible as we can within the boundaries of fairness and human dignity.

But let's remember that this is a very small crumb of the cake and not allow ourselves to be distracted, and let our politicians off the hook on the bigger picture ... because they would just love that!!

Seriously, with all the money which flowed through this country in the last 10 - 15 years, where is the safety-net, the provision for bad times ahead? Where is all that revenue gone? Where is the infrastructure it could have paid for? Where was the good economic management?

Or did our politicians just feel it was more important to maintain the "feel good" factor (and hence the votes which kept them in power) as long as possible?

Seems to me those are far more important questions, Plug.

+1

Piste

dsmythy wrote: »

Let's get to the crux of the matter. I want that money.

Ok ok I'll stop beating around the bush, I want that money for myself.

CtrlSource

dsmythy wrote: »

Some of it is well spent. That total also includes failed asylum seekers which is an annoying waste of money.

As annoying wastes of money go, i'm not particularly excited by this one. Due process. Civilised democracy... and all that!

Holsten wrote: »

Insane... such a waste of money.

My gawd, pure insanity! They should all just be fecked out as soon as they arrive.

Piste wrote: »

My point was in my post, did you not understand it? The universities would like that money.

Oh i understood it alright. Weak 'n all as it was :rolleyes:

Dudess

I presume (and hope) anyone who objects to this country being a safe haven for asylum seekers and refugees doesn't have a ****ing notion of the kind of horrors these people face.

Google "female genital mutilation" (just one example of said horrors), then get back to me.

A phony (i.e. someone who doesn't face imminent unimaginable suffering and death) surely wouldn't be that difficult to spot.

If you feel the government is too generous to refugees and asylum seekers... blame the government.

Otherwise, be grateful you live in such a democracy with such a high standard of living, and perhaps show a bit of compassion to those who aren't so lucky...

Note: I am focusing specifically on refugees/asylum seekers, not migrant workers. I do believe there needs to be some level of control on the latter.

monkeyfudge

Why for that sort of money they could store worthless e-voting machines for 300 years.

Kold

Dudess wrote: »

Google "female genital mutilation" then get back to me.

Hot.

Jigsaw

Scum should should get off their arse and do something

Plug

Dudess wrote: »

I presume (and hope) anyone who objects to this country being a safe haven for asylum seekers and refugees doesn't have a ****ing notion of the kind of horrors these people face.

Google "female genital mutilation" (just one example of said horrors), then get back to me.

Utter rubbish, there having a laugh behind your back when the suckers up in the government grant them asylum. Ok some asylum seekers are genuine but most are bullsh!t. They know Ireland is a soft touch and are claiming everything in there 'rights' if there granted access.
They say only 0.01% of Nigerian asylum seekers were granted access but why aren't the rest being deported?

Mahatma coat

some people here roll out the same old tired rhewtoric in regards 'Asylum seekers'

Deport them the second they land

if they get killed by the government they claim to be fleeing then we send a nicely worded apology letter to their grave

otherwise we point at them and say

ha, knew it you scummy chancers.

Dudess

Plug wrote: »

some asylum seekers are genuine but most are bullsh!t.

How do you know?

They say only 0.01% of Nigerian asylum seekers were granted access but why aren't the rest being deported?

Incompetence at government level? For which the government should be blamed, not the people who take advantage of it. There are always gonna be people, of all colours and nationalities, who'll take advantage of something when it's easy to take advantage of it.
The delightful Mahatma Coat here said in one of the many After Hours threads about climate change (obviously he doesn't believe in it because it would be far too right-on to do so) that he works in forestry so he takes advantage of donations he receives from what he refers to as "hippies" because his industry is considered eco-friendly.