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  • 12-08-2008 4:50pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭


    So, who do people think will lift Sam? Very open this year in my opinion but lets see who can go out on a limb ;)

    Who will lift Sam? 79 votes

    Wexford
    0%
    Kerry
    11%
    kaimerarobocruiserweightjebuzbo-bowill1977taidghbabyshantowFrankie Lee 9 votes
    Cork
    51%
    Mossy MonkMossinRuu_Oldquad_red445279.ieCulchiecadeablackbeltdeisedevilTristramsgthighwayhomerjay2005DayshaGrudairepatmacDaposaidan24326Rowley Birkin QCzuluboyRented Mule 41 votes
    Dublin
    2%
    tomdadudejohn concannon 2 votes
    Tyrone
    34%
    YavvymobbyBlackjackKevIRLBreezerTrampasFrank SpencerOrizioVundergroundmchurlgrapheneNalced_irlMad DogHugglescrosstownkGAAmanKillme00ironictoasterAndyPPride Fighter 27 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    Tyrone
    Public vote btw, as in votes are seen by all. Just see who thinks the teams they were beaten by will go on to win etc and if they rate their opponents as potential winners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    Kerry FTW imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Cork
    I hope I'm wrong! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Tyrone
    i hope i am right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    Tyrone
    Slightly biased maybe. It's gonna be Dublin, Cork or Kerry. I said Dublin because my heart told me to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    Dublin, I think Kerry have a few passengers on their team and a dodgy full back line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    Dublin, I think Kerry have a few passengers on their team and a dodgy full back line.

    The Dublin team is full of passengers imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    Yeah probably, I doubt there is much between either team really. However, Dublin are stronger in midfield, will have far greater support and unlike Kerry haven't been beaten in the championship.

    Hopefully anyway it will be Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    Dublin, I think Kerry have a few passengers on their team and a dodgy full back line.

    cant believe im reading this, have you any idea what gaa is mate?
    the same passengers with all ireland medals in their pockets? we have the exact panel as last year, same full back line also.

    i cant see any passengers in this kerry team, dont forget, our bench is amazing and these lads can swing games in an instant. theres a reason kerry pick the same 15 and then bring on the same 4 players in every game - these lads are winners and game changers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    However, Dublin are stronger in midfield

    This is crazy talk imo.
    Orizio wrote: »
    Dublin will have far greater support

    Kerry are used to having less support. I doubt a Kerry team has ever had more support than the opposition in an All-Ireland final.
    Orizio wrote: »
    and unlike Kerry haven't been beaten in the championship.

    Firstly, this doesn't matter a jot. Kerry have won through the backdoor before so if you're suggesting Dublin would have a psychological edge cos they haven't lost a game you're dreaming.

    Also, Dublin haven't played anyone so the fact that they haven't lost a game means close to nothing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    i cant see any passengers in this kerry team

    Agreed, name and shame the passengers imo.

    The full back line will probably have Bohane in it from now on and will be stronger for it.

    You could make an argument for Donnacha Walsh not being up to it but he scored a goal the last day and anyway we have Galvin coming back to take his place.

    This Kerry team is about as good as it gets.

    Not many Dublin players would get on it imo. Except Vinny Murphy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    Sheehan, Scanlon, Reidy, Tom O' Sullivan . Look at the munster final, Sheehan destroyed by an a inexperinced squad player, and the full back ****ting himself under the high ball.

    Your dreaming if you think that Kerry are perfect. No team is. Of course you will almost certainly get to the final, but neither Dublin nor Kerry are flawless.

    Dublin have hammered a now all-Ireland semi finalist, which is more then can be said about Kerry who beat a decent Monaghon side, and a Galway side incapable of basic defending and almost completely reliant on one man(who again destroyed your full back). Even if the completely inexperienced Bohane does start, there is no reason to think he will any better on Cussen etc.

    Ever heard of objectivity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    cant believe im reading this, have you any idea what gaa is mate?

    A Kerryman 'teaching' a Corkman about GAA is quite something, considering ye only know how the play the inferior pussified code of gaelic football. :D

    Being a GAA county means playing both codes well, you do grasp that right? Like Cork do, or Wexford, or Limerick, or Dublin...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    Tyrone
    Dublin of course :) and this isn't a public poll!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


    Cork
    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    creggy wrote: »
    Dublin of course :) and this isn't a public poll!!

    You have to press the numbers in the poll to see who voted for who.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭juvenal


    Tyrone
    I almost went with Kerry until I saw someone said 'heart', then I had to go Dublin.

    I'd say this poll will go along population lines rather than reasoned analysis.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    Being a GAA county means playing both codes well

    We won the first hurling championship - we packed it in after that cos we realised that hitting each other in various parts of the body (the nuts if you're from Cork) was uncivilised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    Sheehan, Scanlon, Reidy, Tom O' Sullivan . Look at the munster final, Sheehan destroyed by an a inexperinced squad player, and the full back ****ting himself under the high ball.

    Sheehan's the best place kicker of a ball in the country imo. Always chips in with scores from play as well. Not bad at winning breaking ball around the middle of the field. Look at Mossy Quinn on the Dublin team solely for taking frees and he isn't a patch on Sheehan from a placed ball.

    Tom O'Sullivan isn't a full-back. That's a given. That's why I think Bohane (who actually isn't really a full back either but has the athletescism to do the job) will come in there and sort out the full back line.

    How many scores from play have Reidy's opponents managed all year? Not many I'd say.

    Orizio wrote: »
    Dublin have hammered a now all-Ireland semi finalist

    Doesn't mean much. Wexford completely capitualted in the Leinster final and they're not in the same league as any of the other teams left anyway. If Kerry had battered Wexford in a qualifier or something would you be putting it forward as a big feather in their cap like you're doing for Dublin? I doubt it.
    Orizio wrote: »
    a decent Monaghon side

    Most underrated side in the country imo. Tommy Freeman and Rory Woods would get on pretty much every team. They're midfield is rock solid and their backs are as physical and tenacious as you'd expect from a well drilled Ulster side.
    Orizio wrote: »
    a Galway side incapable of basic defending and almost completely reliant on one man(who again destroyed your full back).

    Do you think Dublin or Cork or anyone else have a back that would have marked Meehan the last day?
    Orizio wrote: »
    Even if the completely inexperienced Bohane does start, there is no reason to think he will any better on Cussen etc.

    There's the fact that he did better on Joe Bergin for a start. There's also the fact that in terms of physique and style of play he's a man more suited to marking a player like Cussen. There's also the fact that he marks Kieran Donneghy every night training for their club Austin Stacks.

    And if he's worried about being inexperienced he can just have a word with Tommy Walsh about getting up to pace. Or again to Star whose first full championship was last year.
    Orizio wrote: »
    Ever heard of objectivity?

    Is it an old old wooden ship?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭juvenal


    Tyrone
    keane2097 wrote: »
    We won the first hurling championship - we packed it in after that cos we realised that hitting each other in various parts of the body (the nuts if you're from Cork) was uncivilised.

    Yes, hitting the ref's notebook is far more civcilised! :D

    I don't think Kerry have any more passengers than Dublin do tbh. Sheehan is a starter for his dead balls alone, it matters not a jot if he struggles in open play, he's too valuable.

    Furthermore, Meehan would've roasted anyone last weekend given the form he was in. If he had more support from the other Galway forwards, it would've been a damn sight closer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Yavvy


    Tyrone
    Nalced_irl wrote: »
    So, who do people think will lift Sam? Very open this year in my opinion but lets see who can go out on a limb ;)

    i know you know Dublin are going to win the poll...which leads me to believe your just trying to convince everyone else... i like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    juvenal wrote: »
    Yes, hitting the ref's notebook is far more civcilised! :D

    I don't think Kerry have any more passengers than Dublin do tbh. Sheehan is a starter for his dead balls alone, it matters not a jot if he struggles in open play, he's too valuable.

    Furthermore, Meehan would've roasted anyone last weekend given the form he was in. If he had more support from the other Galway forwards, it would've been a damn sight closer.

    It matters when the man he is marking is driving forward constantly, clearing up the loose ball and causing overlaps up the field. Duggan, despite being inexpeinced and a squad player in because of 3-4 injured Cork defenders, was a major reason for Cork winning in the munster final. Against Dublin, a player who struggles to cover his man and offers little from play will be a luxury, great free taker or not, like he was against Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭juvenal


    Tyrone
    Orizio wrote: »
    It matters when the man he is marking is driving forward constantly, clearing up the loose ball and causing overlaps up the field. Duggan, despite being inexpeinced and a squad player in because of 3-4 injured Cork defenders, was a major reason for Cork winning in the munster final. Against Dublin, a player who struggles to cover his man and offers little from play will be a luxury, great free taker or not, like he was against Cork.

    I don't disagree, defence starts in attack and all that, although unfortunately I didn't see the Munster Final so I can't comment.

    If Dublin and Kerry do meet, then I hope the Dublin defenders are savvy enough not to give away a lot of kickable frees as he's pretty deadly in scoring range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    It matters when the man he is marking is driving forward constantly, clearing up the loose ball and causing overlaps up the field. Duggan, despite being inexpeinced and a squad player in because of 3-4 injured Cork defenders, was a major reason for Cork winning in the munster final. Against Dublin, a player who struggles to cover his man and offers little from play will be a luxury, great free taker or not, like he was against Cork.

    I think in fairness the Munster final was just a complete one off from a Kerry point of view.

    You see a team give a performance like that occasionally, like when Kerry got destroyed by Meath in that All-Ireland semi-final.

    Judging any of the Kerry players on that performance alone would be quite shortsighted imo.

    Same goes for the Cork players actually - wasn't Duggan taken off against Kildare?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Cork
    Kerry for Sam, Kilkenny for Liam.

    As previously said, anyone but the Dubs tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭juvenal


    Tyrone
    bigkev49 wrote: »
    Kerry for Sam, Kilkenny for Liam.

    As previously said, anyone but the Dubs tbh.

    Always nice to see the ABD crowd appear in August the past few years! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,269 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Cork
    juvenal wrote: »
    Always nice to see the ABD crowd appear in August the past few years! ;)

    Nope, here all year, lurking mostly!!

    In college in Dublin and I have to laugh at how ye win the first round of the Leinster championship and the airwaves are full of people talking about back to back All-Irelands and finally beating Kerry and all the culchie slagging that goes with it...and then they are beaten in the latter stages, invariably by culchies or nordies! :P

    That said I do fully appreciate that there are plenty of genuine, level headed Dublin supporters on here that don't get caught in the mass hysteria. My ABD comment is not aimed at you lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork
    bigkev49 wrote: »
    Nope, here all year, lurking mostly!!

    In college in Dublin and I have to laugh at how ye win the first round of the Leinster championship and the airwaves are full of people talking about back to back All-Irelands and finally beating Kerry and all the culchie slagging that goes with it...and then they are beaten in the latter stages, invariably by culchies or nordies! :P

    That said I do fully appreciate that there are plenty of genuine, level headed Dublin supporters on here that don't get caught in the mass hysteria. My ABD comment is not aimed at you lads.

    There doesn't seem to be half as much hype about the jacks this year compared to other years though - that's the only thing that would have me worried...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Kerry
    Mod hat on. Careful now, make sure it stays friendly :)

    Mod hat off. I voted for Wexford out of loyalty. In all probability I think that Kerry will win the All-Ireland, but am hoping for Wexford :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭juvenal


    Tyrone
    bigkev49 wrote: »
    Nope, here all year, lurking mostly!!

    In college in Dublin and I have to laugh at how ye win the first round of the Leinster championship and the airwaves are full of people talking about back to back All-Irelands and finally beating Kerry and all the culchie slagging that goes with it...and then they are beaten in the latter stages, invariably by culchies or nordies! :P

    That said I do fully appreciate that there are plenty of genuine, level headed Dublin supporters on here that don't get caught in the mass hysteria. My ABD comment is not aimed at you lads.

    Us genuine Dubs fans are level-headed, it the bandwagon-brigade that give us a bad name (like any county when the season gets rolling really, just more folk in Dublin so more hysteria and more muppetry)

    After Saturday we'll have a much clearer idea of how Dublin are fixed. Kerry bounced back from the Cork defeat with two great performances against Monaghan and Galway. Dublin's victory over Wexford has gained a bit more respect since Wexford's win over Armagh, and if we have serious designs about winning the All-Ireland, I'll be expecting a strong, controlled win over Tyrone.

    Dublin cannot afford to get dragged into a mudfight with Tyrone. On paper and in reality Dublin will be favourites, and rightly so, although I expect Tyrone to throw the kitchen sink on Saturday, and try to wind Dublin up as much as possible. Credit to Tyrone's performances in the last five years, but they're not as strong as previous seasons and we know that they'll try anything, including possibly dubious tactics ;), to get at Dublin, as from a footballing point-of-view, Dublin are stronger.

    It's up to Dublin to play their own game, not be bullied but at the same time not to get into handbagging for a win. If we're good enough to win Sam, here's the next step in proving it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Cork
    I'm a dub but would find it very very difficult to find a weak link in the Kerry team. Perhaps midfield but jaysus they are still quality. We will know a lot more about Dublin after this weekend hopefully. Still dont think they have been tested fully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭lorweld


    Cork
    Ok I voted Kerry! I don't think anyone will beat them tbh especially going on the Galway match. Do Kerry people ever get sick of winning????

    However I'd like to see Dublin winning, they're from Leinster, nearest to me and of course my oh is a Dub! I think they deserve it they've being knocking on the door for long enough now!

    /offtopic Now off on this hunt for Tyrone Dublin tickets again, I've exhausted all avenues! anyone with any ideas where to look? I'm at my wits end considering we're regular gaa goers! and can't find tickets for love nor money! Not fair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Cork
    Orizio wrote: »
    Sheehan, Scanlon, Reidy, Tom O' Sullivan . Look at the munster final, Sheehan destroyed by an a inexperinced squad player, and the full back ****ting himself under the high ball.

    Your dreaming if you think that Kerry are perfect. No team is. Of course you will almost certainly get to the final, but neither Dublin nor Kerry are flawless.

    Dublin have hammered a now all-Ireland semi finalist, which is more then can be said about Kerry who beat a decent Monaghon side, and a Galway side incapable of basic defending and almost completely reliant on one man(who again destroyed your full back). Even if the completely inexperienced Bohane does start, there is no reason to think he will any better on Cussen etc.

    Ever heard of objectivity?


    ever heard of trolling? cos there seems to be an element of it in this post. or else you just dont have a clue. all 4 players you mentioned would get on any team in the country. Brian Sheehan is the best place kicker in the country bar none, if dublin had him, they would have won an all ireland. fermanagh too, they can do everything bar score. theres also many teams that could do with ready and scanlon, he is not in there to partner darragh o se for nothing. reidy is a fine corner back whos man very rarely got more than 1 or 2 scores. as for tom sullivan being a passenger, 4 all irelands and 2 all stars(maybe 3) is hardly passenger material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Cork
    Hope to **** I'm wrong, but can't see anyone beating Kerry with the way they've improved since the Munster final. Monaghan are a class team, Galway would have beaten most teams last week. Its ominously like 2 years ago when they lost to Cork and came back all guns blazing to win the AI...

    Heart says Dublin but head says Kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Cork
    ever heard of trolling? cos there seems to be an element of it in this post. or else you just dont have a clue. all 4 players you mentioned would get on any team in the country. Brian Sheehan is the best place kicker in the country bar none, if dublin had him, they would have won an all ireland. fermanagh too, they can do everything bar score. theres also many teams that could do with ready and scanlon, he is not in there to partner darragh o se for nothing. reidy is a fine corner back whos man very rarely got more than 1 or 2 scores. as for tom sullivan being a passenger, 4 all irelands and 2 all stars(maybe 3) is hardly passenger material.

    Ach he has a point, I can see all over this board people giving Galway big credit, but not Westmeath who are a decent side. Btw, thanks for the Fermanagh, one of the best midfields in the country and probably THE best team at winning breaking ball! If only they had a few forwards.

    Anyway, think it has to be Kerry at the minute.

    Barring Dublin, the rest can win one more match conceivably but not the AI.

    All credit to Wexford, but Armagh would have been a better physical test for Dublin.

    For the reason that Kerry will have beat Monaghan and probably Cork in a tight enough match, Kerry!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    ever heard of trolling? cos there seems to be an element of it in this post.

    Feel free to report me.
    or else you just dont have a clue.

    Ever heard of personal insults?
    all 4 players you mentioned would get on any team in the country. Brian Sheehan is the best place kicker in the country bar none, if dublin had him, they would have won an all ireland. fermanagh too, they can do everything bar score. theres also many teams that could do with ready and scanlon, he is not in there to partner darragh o se for nothing. reidy is a fine corner back whos man very rarely got more than 1 or 2 scores. as for tom sullivan being a passenger, 4 all irelands and 2 all stars(maybe 3) is hardly passenger material.

    I have already explained Sheehan, and everybody in the country knows Tom O' Sullivan is having a bad year, and got destroyed against Cussen. Reidy is exceptional going forward but that can be a problem and I would fancy players like Goulding and Hayes to get a few points off him from play. Scanlon isn't in the class of Darragh O' Se or for that matter, a Canty or a Murphy as far as I am concerned.

    As for this all-ireland/all-stars 'argument', form matters more. Look how many all stars/all Irelands the Cork hurlers have for example, and yet they still got hammered.

    Thats pretty much all I have to say, because feelings seem to get hurt very easily around here. The presumed Kerry/Dublin final will show all, and if Scanlon, Tom etc excel for the rest of the championship I'll happily admit I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    Cork
    I think Kerry will win Sam again and do the three in a row even if it pains me to type this.I just think that Kerry's players are top class and if a team is lucky enough to outplay them,luck does be on Kerry's side anyway.

    Tommy Walsh and Donaghy as the two deep forwards with Gooch at the 20m line is paying dividends although it quietens Gooch,it gives Donaghy more exposure and scoring chances.Meanwhile Tommy Walsh is another big forward who will be hard to contain.Dublin do not seem to have a proper full back despite having excellent defenders in Griffin,Henry and Cahill.Ross McConnell has lost his place and he is a big defender.I think what Dublin need is a real defendin coach who can master the art of dealing with big men like Donaghy,Walsh and Cussen.Over the years,Dublin have not really had to deal with those type of forwards and I just hope that it won't be our achilles tendon this year.

    I think Dublins midfield has been the best this year though and more impressive than Kerrys.Shane Ryan is having his best season to date and I think he'd roast Dara O Se or Griffin or Murphy.Forwards seem to be back on track after a poor game against Westmeath,they came out on fire against Wexford.Ciaran Whelan needs to give more than he ever has before.He can't afford to disappear for 10-15 minutes like he did against Kerry last year.Thats why I am happy that we have a capable and encouraging midfielder in Fennell who may be held in reserve to go out and replace Whelan if he goes quiet.I think Fenell can destroy any midfield if given the chance.

    Dublin need to concentrate on playing football and not the handbags that Tyrone will start.I just know that Tyrone will start this petty pushing business at some stage if the Dubs get a firm hold on the game.It has been part of their gameplan down through the years.Either that or some sort of stoppage in the game to break Dublins momentum while Tyrone regain whatever composure they can.You can expect to see this on Saturday at some stage.

    Wexford in my opinion have beaten two good teams and Forde seems more dangerous now when injured.However and not to devalue their wins against Down and Armagh but I think those two teams are nowhere near as good as people think.Down are very inexperienced when it comes to Croke Park and Armagh never really shined at all and won an Ulster Championhip against a side that happened to catch two big teams on the hop which ultimately ran out of steam.I expect Wexford to be found out at the semi final stage.

    Kerry will outclass Cork in Croke Park.Cork hate the sight of Kerry in Croker and now that Kerry have a one game advantage over Cork,any problems that Kerry had in the Munster Final will be excorcised.Kerry should win that comfortably I'd think and just about edge out Dublin in the final.:( Hope I'm wrong though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Tyrone
    keane2097 wrote: »
    I think in fairness the Munster final was just a complete one off from a Kerry point of view.

    You see a team give a performance like that occasionally, like when Kerry got destroyed by Meath in that All-Ireland semi-final.

    Judging any of the Kerry players on that performance alone would be quite shortsighted imo.

    Same goes for the Cork players actually - wasn't Duggan taken off against Kildare?

    He wasn't taken off but he should have been, and the more important point is that we have superior players like Miskella, Shields, Nic Murphy, Canty and O' Leary who have to come in somewhere, and the likes of Duggan and Og Regan have to be the first to go.

    I'm sure Kerry will beat Cork, if only because the Cork footballers seem pathologically incapable of playing well in Croker, and are talented but mentally fickle lot. However, there are areas that are weaker then others in the Kerry team, and I think a fired up Dublin can dominate the middle third and cause damage in the full back line.

    Only time will tell of course.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    Cork
    Orizio and Homerjay...knock it off!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭One Cold Hand


    Tyrone
    My head can't decide, so I'm going with my heart.....Dublin it is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Cork
    I voted for Kerry, but only if they improve 50-60% by All Ireland Final day (no im not forgetting about Cork we will need to improve for them also) At the moment Dublin are the from team in the championship. Steely defence, powerfull and mobile midfield and 5 if not 6 scoring forwards. But there is as always chinks in their armour. Bryan Cullan is a great player, but at centerback, is turned far to easily. Collie Moran is a weak link also, always prone to a mistake or two. Connelly is a brilliant scorer but his work ethic is shocking. Mossie Quinn is a freetaker and nothing else. So the Dubs can be beaten.

    Having said all that, Kerry too are vunerable. Questionmarks over our fullback line. Is Reidy up for it? Is Tom O'Sullivan past it? Is this Marc Ó Sé's worst season ever? Then our midfield Is Darragh Ó Sé too old? Does Scanlon have the pace and the fitness for Shane Ryan? Then the whole Gooch question. Does he have the hunger?

    The one thing that worries me about all this focus on a Kerry vs Dublin fianl is that the teams like Cork, Wexford and Tyrone will be delighted to slip in under the radar and try to catch Kerry and Dublin. It will certainly be an interesting finish!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭mumhaabu


    Cork
    I am going to call it and go for Kerry. Kerry have improved all over, our back got a grilling on Saturday against Galway however when the chips were down we surged forward and simply surged past galway.

    The twin towers approach of Donaghy and Walsh is reaping dividends and will really come into prominence against Cork, the Cork backs are dodgy at the best of times and with the two men supplying both Gooch and Bryan Sheehan it will be rip-roaring encounter I would not be surprised if 3 or 4 goals went into the Cork net. Kerry are building again and there is a literal conveyor belt of fresh talent coming through from the U-21 and Minors. Kerry have a bone to pick with Cork over the Munster final plus Cork hate playing Kerry in Croke Park and have never ever beaten Kerry there.

    Daniel Bohane can be potentially be a new full back and would control big Cussen either him or put back Dara O'Se on him. Kerry fans will travel again big time again for this one, and support has really improved since 60,000 travelled up from the Kingdom for last years all-Ireland albeit only 50,000 made it to Croker. Kerry outnumbered Cork last year and there could easily be 60 or 70,000 at this Cork - Kerry Semi-final.

    I think it is premsuptous to speculate on the all-ireland and like to take every game as they come, however if Kerry builds on the Corkk game like they did the Galway & Monaghan game then it will stand us well in any all-ireland final. The worst thing that could happen to Kerry would be to annihilate Cork completely.

    Also if Kerry defeat Cork it will be their 7th All-Ireland final this decade a feat never before achieved by any other team Kerry or otherwise, and if they wins it this Kerry team will go down in the History books as the greatest ever Kerry team and the greatest ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Cork
    are rightfully confident.

    But talking up a Kerry/Dublin/whatever final at this stage is dismaying.

    There is way too much ootball to be played, against highly capable motivated teams with as much right to glory.

    So neutrals - fire away. Everyone else, knock it off! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Cork
    Kerry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Marse


    Tyrone
    Dublin, Please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭brucer24!


    Cork
    my heart says cork.my head has to say Kerry!they have such talent..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    Tyrone
    Not many giving Cork, Wex or Tyrone a chance at the moment anyway. Seems most are leaning towards Kerry but close. Keep the votes rolling in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭patmac


    Cork
    Ok would not like to see Dublin win for the obvious reason I'm not from there. Can't stand Tyrone either for there cynical approach to games and win at all cost mentality so much so that I actually want Dublin to win this weekend. Definitely don't want Cork to win after all their messing earlier on in the season. And Jaysus not Kerry again ffs, so that leaves.....
    I voted Kerry, but would love Wexford to win it.
    Latest odds(Betfair):
    Kerry 1.18/1
    Dublin 2.1/1
    Cork 7/1
    Tyrone 12/1
    Wexford 26/1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    Tyrone
    patmac wrote: »
    Ok would not like to see Dublin win for the obvious reason I'm not from there. Can't stand Tyrone either for there cynical approach to games and win at all cost mentality so much so that I actually want Dublin to win this weekend. Definitely don't want Cork to win after all their messing earlier on in the season. And Jaysus not Kerry again ffs, so that leaves.....
    I voted Kerry, but would love Wexford to win it.
    Latest odds(Betfair):
    Kerry 1.18/1
    Dublin 2.1/1
    Cork 7/1
    Tyrone 12/1
    Wexford 26/1
    TBH Kerrys odds are ridiculous! I wouldnt dream of putting money on at those odds. Dublins are short enough but id say about right. Cork, slightly high i would say. Tyrone, very high. Seems alot of people are counting them out already. Wexford, i dont think anyone really gives them a chance at winning outright so about right.
    I would personally put Kerry at about 2.0-2.1/1, Dublin slightly higher at around 2.1-2.3/1, Cork about 5 or 6/1, Tyrone about 8/1 and Wexford about the same as above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    Tyrone
    Surprised to see Wexford with 10% of the vote. Im quite sure if i check, all the voters are from one county ;)

    Tyrone and Cork arent being given a chance. Expected a few more going their way tbh.

    Still Dublin and Kerry as firm favourites although Kerry are pulling away quite a bit now.


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