BT Broadband 24MB Line

tazire

does any1 actually have this service? and can they confirm a sizable increase in their dl and upload speeds? esp wondering bout the clondalkin area. am considering changing.

Eoin

Moved from Charlesland/Greystones

Vunderground

Upgraded from 8Mbs last week in Dolphin's Barn and working fine

tazire

nice. its the ping im lookin for. gettin ave 100 atm. useless really for playin fps. like playin css so think i may invest in a bit of that. thanks lads

CombatCow

Considering changing from Smart's 8mb to BT's 24mb for roughly the same price, but im concerned about their "fair usage policy" Does anybody know their unofficial cap that would make them throttle your speed ?

Cheers,
CC

Solair

Tell smart you're changing, there's a possibility they may match the price for you.

Also, remember your line won't support 24mbit, most max out at about 16 - 17 mbit/s. It's not necessarily the quality of Irish lines, rather just that telephone lines can only support 24mbit/s if you actually live in the exchange.

tazire

tbh im jsut lookin for a better latency. the latency on the eircom lines since the upgrade are just pissin me off. since i use it mostly for games and that. according to vunderground he's less than half the latency im gettin.

PotBelly

@vunderground

What is you theoretical upload speed supposed to be, 1Mb?

Vunderground

Statistics Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 23261 Kbps 1019 Kbps
Noise Margin 5.6 dB 11.6 dB
Line Attenuation 23.0 dB 10.2 dB


Yep!

Baneblade

anyone on the summerhill one,

i was move to it today but am only syncing at 8mb

barnicles

What price is it?

Baneblade

same as the 7.6 line, about €45 a month

Baneblade

lol check my SNR, cant belive it



Downstream Upstream
Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 8125 828
SN Margin (dB) 31.00 14.60
Line Attenuation (dB) 20.40 9.70
CRC Errors 0 0

bellapip

Ok, Don't all shout the answer at me, because I am just a lowly writer and have no clue about pings and dings and all that jazz.

But is your ping speed only relevant to game playing, I have only ever watched my download and upload speeds, and even though I get told its 3.6mps its nothing near it, hence I am thinking of changing.

Any help or answers much appreciated.

Thanks


B:)

Hank Scorpio

For Gamers


Lowest Pings -> Smart + Magnet, expect ping times to be around 10 ms or less, and excellent european pings.

Decent Low pings -> ADSL1 packages on 3MB and less. Expect 15 ms or less to irish servers. Recommened Eircom or BT.

Decent Medium/pings -> BT 24MB ADSL2+ , expect around 24/25 ms pings to irish servers ( I would put NTL in this bracket too but from my experience avoid them for gaming, massive routing and capacity problems)

High pings -> DSL Higher than 3MB, expect ping times to a irish server to be in the 40ms

avoid wireless and mobile connections.. Not reliable and for the most big ping times.

bellapip

Hey Nuxx


Could you suggest who would be best for just plain and simple decent speeds.
I use my internet for transferring files, a little bit of download and constant connection to g mail and my a little psp torrent.

I have a 3modem but it is sooooooooooooooooo slow even pulling up my gmail takes an eternity.

It doesn't even have to be a mobile broadband anymore, the only reason I got mobile to start with was that broadband was not available in my area.

Any thoughts?


B:)

paulm17781

bellapip wrote: »

Ok, Don't all shout the answer at me, because I am just a lowly writer and have no clue about pings and dings and all that jazz.

But is your ping speed only relevant to game playing, I have only ever watched my download and upload speeds, and even though I get told its 3.6mps its nothing near it, hence I am thinking of changing.

A simple overview is look at pings as the lower the value the faster you can send data. This is important to gaming. If you're not a gamer don't worry but if you're not getting close to your max speed, look at changing anyway.

There's a lot more to ping than that, I just figure you don't care.

bellapip

Hey Paul,

There's a lot more to ping than that, I just figure you don't care. T

Emmmm. You might be right, swooory. :pac:


B.

paulm17781

Bellapip. Don't use 3.

Realistically broadband over phoneline (Smart, BT, Eircom) or cable (UPC) are probably your best bets. I use UPC and am happy with the product.

Digiweb also have some good products.

bellapip

Paul,

My contract with 3 is up at the end of the month, hence my plan to move.
UTV seem to be offering the best deal so at the moment I am swaying (in a non drunken fashion) towards them.

Thanks for the advice.


B:)

paulm17781

bellapip wrote: »

Paul,

My contract with 3 is up at the end of the month, hence my plan to move.
UTV seem to be offering the best deal so at the moment I am swaying (in a non drunken fashion) towards them.

Thanks for the advice.


B:)

There's a lot to consider in these. Do you use your phone much? You could look at getting UPC (phone and broadband) or UPC broadband with someone like http://www.blueface.ie

UTV may suit for what you need but cable can work out cheaper. I have cable and wouldn't look back but UTV may be more suitable for you.

Joseph Kuhr

Was with UTV about 2 years ago and I'd advise you to stay well clear. Connections were constantly dropping and it was impossible to reconnect, literally I'd have to just give up and try again the next day. They also cut you off at the cap and thats only if you tell them in advance that you do not want to exceed the cap, otherwise you get charged per mb (and they do actually charge you!). Their tech support are downright rude and it took me 8 months to switch to BT because UTV refused to give them the cancellation number thing (forget what its called) and everytime I called them they told me they hadn't received my emails and no record of me calling blah blah blah.... I finally got out of it by writing to them via registered mail and "on advice of my solicitor" all correspondence back should be in writing (I didn't really go to a solicitor). Sure enough they cut me loose.....man what a complete shower of nordy cowboys.

bellapip

Whoooa,


Thanks Paul and thank you too Joseph. . . I will have a look at the link Paul and will most certainly put your advice on my cons list Joseph.

Thanks again.


B:)

ardmacha

If you choose not to pay then UTV do cut you off after the cap, presumably that's what a cap is for. But this is only relevant to the minority of people who exceed caps. Other people can choose the unlimited option. They do warn you by email if you are coming close. i have found them reliable enough, but like all resellers if your line is dodgy you may have problems. Be aware that they effectively have a disconnection fee.

Hecate

Anybody on the Terenure exchange been upgraded yet? Their website lists my line as qualifying, but last time I checked (last night) my router was still reporting an 8mbit speed.

here.from.day.1

nuxxx wrote: »

For Gamers


Lowest Pings -> Smart + Magnet, expect ping times to be around 10 ms or less, and excellent european pings.

Decent Low pings -> ADSL1 packages on 3MB and less. Expect 15 ms or less to irish servers. Recommened Eircom or BT.

Decent Medium/pings -> BT 24MB ADSL2+ , expect around 24/25 ms pings to irish servers ( I would put NTL in this bracket too but from my experience avoid them for gaming, massive routing and capacity problems)

High pings -> DSL Higher than 3MB, expect ping times to a irish server to be in the 40ms

avoid wireless and mobile connections.. Not reliable and for the most big ping times.

I think I must have one of the worst at the moment. IBB, 3MB, pings are always 150-200, its wireless to the house so id imagine thats why with the pings but even download speeds are horrible. Ive tried contact IBB for support but its a waste of time. Does anybody know if any of the better services are available in the Navan area?

Bohrio

nuxxx wrote: »

For Gamers


Lowest Pings -> Smart + Magnet, expect ping times to be around 10 ms or less, and excellent european pings.

Decent Low pings -> ADSL1 packages on 3MB and less. Expect 15 ms or less to irish servers. Recommened Eircom or BT.

Decent Medium/pings -> BT 24MB ADSL2+ , expect around 24/25 ms pings to irish servers ( I would put NTL in this bracket too but from my experience avoid them for gaming, massive routing and capacity problems)

High pings -> DSL Higher than 3MB, expect ping times to a irish server to be in the 40ms

avoid wireless and mobile connections.. Not reliable and for the most big ping times.

Hi just one thing, if you are on a BT LLU2 exchange you can lower your ping by ringing BT tech support and asking them to change your modulation from interleave to fastpath.

As long as you have a decent enough line they should have no problem in doing that...

Although you shouldnt be needing it as pings are good enough most of the time...

tripswitch

Can anyone please tell me the correct settings for a modem/router on BT's 24Mb enabled exchanges?

I'm on Merrion and should be at 24Mb since last Saturday. I just got a ADSL2+ modem today (Linksys WAG160N) but it's only syncing at 8124/507 (down/up). (This is the same as I was getting with my old Prestige 623R that Esat gave me years ago which is only capable of 8Mb.)

Here's what I'm using...
Encapsulation - -PPPoE
DSL Modulation - ADSL2+
Multiplex - LLC
VPI - 8
VCI - 35
Connect on Demand - yes

It's the one in bold that I'm not sure about. The options are MultiMode, T1.413, G.dmt, G.lite, ADSL2, ADSL2+, ADSL2 L, ADSL2 M or ADSL2+ M, but I'm not sure which to pick.

Thanks in advance!

pilotsnipes

I have a draytek Vigor 2820vn, lots of options on it too, but the only one to get me the best sync is:

ADSL2+(G.992.5)

"ADSL2+ Annex M" was a disaster and I couldn't sync at all, the others were all about at least 1-3megs lower sync.

If that is of any help to you. I'll played a lot with it too!

tripswitch

pilotsnipes wrote: »

I have a draytek Vigor 2820vn, lots of options on it too, but the only one to get me the best sync is:

ADSL2+(G.992.5)

Cheers for that pilotsnipes. I'll give them a shout on Monday to make sure the line was set for 24Mb. The people on support at the weekend said they can see my line is definitely at least 8Mb, but that a "Second Level" tech has to check whether it's set for 24Mb or not.

Bohrio

tripswitch wrote: »

Can anyone please tell me the correct settings for a modem/router on BT's 24Mb enabled exchanges?

I'm on Merrion and should be at 24Mb since last Saturday. I just got a ADSL2+ modem today (Linksys WAG160N) but it's only syncing at 8124/507 (down/up). (This is the same as I was getting with my old Prestige 623R that Esat gave me years ago which is only capable of 8Mb.)

Here's what I'm using...
Encapsulation - -PPPoE
DSL Modulation - ADSL2+
Multiplex - LLC
VPI - 8
VCI - 35
Connect on Demand - yes

It's the one in bold that I'm not sure about. The options are MultiMode, T1.413, G.dmt, G.lite, ADSL2, ADSL2+, ADSL2 L, ADSL2 M or ADSL2+ M, but I'm not sure which to pick.

Thanks in advance!

Hi there. It seems you are still on a 8mb profile, give tech support a call on monday and ask them to check if you were upgraded or not.

Sam Vimes

this has already been asked here but didn't get an answer. Can anyone give details on bt's fair usage policy? I called bt and they said i now have no limit but the online usage calculator says i'm over my limit. They say it's wrong and to ignore it

the problem there is that last month i was throttled for going over this mythical fair usage limit so i'd like to know what this limit is if i'm going to be penalised for going over it. Their suggestion seems to be that i'll find out when my internet stops working

a clanger

Agghh getting freaked with pings etc ...I've just been upped to 24mb but I top out at about 10.4 on speedtest. My ping is always around 62ms ..these are the stats from my modem anyone got ant ideas how to shake a bit more from BT

Jonathan

Sam Vimes wrote: »

this has already been asked here but didn't get an answer. Can anyone give details on bt's fair usage policy? I called bt and they said i now have no limit but the online usage calculator says i'm over my limit. They say it's wrong and to ignore it

the problem there is that last month i was throttled for going over this mythical fair usage limit so i'd like to know what this limit is if i'm going to be penalised for going over it. Their suggestion seems to be that i'll find out when my internet stops working

100gb is the actual limit. Whopper thread about it here.

Jonathan

a clanger wrote: »

Agghh getting freaked with pings etc ...I've just been upped to 24mb but I top out at about 10.4 on speedtest. My ping is always around 62ms ..these are the stats from my modem anyone got ant ideas how to shake a bit more from BT

You are getting exactly what your line is capable of. connecting at 12237kbps * 85% (adsl overheads etc) = 10401.45kbps which is what you are getting off speedtest.net

smellslikeshoes

Yep at your limit there, not going to be able to get anything more on that line.

a clanger

Thanks guys 10.4mb isn't that hard to live with:D

here.from.day.1

Rang BT on friday to check if I could get the 24mb service. I can but as im 4.01km from the exchange the guy said the speed would only ever reach 1mb. Im doomed to useless IBB Breeze..

a clanger

Now I really feel better

magill sanchez

I was upgraded the other day, I'm on the Dolphins Barn exchange. The thing is when I run a speed test, my results are basically the same as when I was on the 8mb connection, the only thing I have noticed so far is a better upload speed for gaming etc. but download speed still no noticeable change.

I rang BT and got no real answers to why this is, when I mentioned the speedtest.net results the polish guy on the help desk responded like a fecking robot by saying your line is upgraded and that BT are not responsible for speeds to and from websites... anyways take a look! anybody having the same issue?

Jonathan

magill sanchez wrote: »

I was upgraded the other day, I'm on the Dolphins Barn exchange. The thing is when I run a speed test, my results are basically the same as when I was on the 8mb connection, the only thing I have noticed so far is a better upload speed for gaming etc. but download speed still no noticeable change.

I rang BT and got no real answers to why this is, when I mentioned the speedtest.net results the polish guy on the help desk responded like a ****ing robot by saying your line is upgraded and that BT are not responsible to speeds to and from websites... anyways take a look, anybody having the same issue!

Speedtest.net is NOT RELIABLE!

Go download a large iso or something off heanet and see what speeds you get.

magill sanchez

"Go download a large iso or something off heanet and see what speeds you get."

Dont see anything where it says check your broadband speed! Just a barebones website with a couple of folder directories if you could point the way!! I got similar results from IrishSpeedTest if not worse so I dont know!

Jonathan

magill sanchez wrote: »

Dont see anything where it says check your broadband speed! Just a barebones website with a couple of folder directories if you could point the way!!

:rolleyes:


Click this link and see what speeds you get.

magill sanchez

"Click this link and see what speeds you get."

580kbs download speed from that link :rolleyes:

Jonathan

magill sanchez wrote: »

580kbs download speed from that link :rolleyes:

That means you are getting a download speed from HEAnet that is even slower than speedtest.net.

580 (kilobytes / second) = 4640 kbps

Have you tried resetting your router?

magill sanchez

"That means you are getting a download speed from HEAnet that is even slower than speedtest.net.

580 (kilobytes / second) = 4640 kbps

Have you tried resetting your router?"

I've reset the router but no improvements so any other ideas?

Baneblade

your modem is syncing at 16mb so you are being provided with the upgraded service

magill sanchez

Baneblade wrote: »

your modem is syncing at 16mb so you are being provided with the upgraded service

Exactly but I'm not able to avail of it... abit like sitting in a ferrari and not being able to drive it, anyways I just got a call back from BT seems my line isn't capable of supporting the upgraded speed at the moment so bare with it for now til they improve it and/or downgrade my line....... or go for 20mb NTL

Shane O' Malley

Anyone on the Blanchardstown exchange having problems with their BT 24MB connection.

When the upgrade happened, i was connecting at 18Mb and getting the full speed out of it.

Over the last week, my connection has been going down about twice a day and i have to restart the router. It is now connecting at 13Mb but actual speed is only half that.

At one point last night it was running at about 100KB .

Shane

Jonathan

Hi lads.

Bit of a strange request. Im making a php script to log into the voyager 2110 router (i think the 210 has the same interface too) and bt usage stats and give you all the info you need on one page (line stats, downloads and live usage from the router etc)

I do need however the unaltered html source code (dont change ANYTHING) from the bt stats of a user who has gone over their monthly allowance and a user who has been throttled.

Otherwise the script would fail if it encounters any of these conditions.



EDIT: forgot to mention that I havent a hope of going over the limit so thats why im asking others. It isnt for usernames or anything.

thanks

chiefo

Got upgraded to BT's 24meg service on the 9th of this month, that comfirmation letter they sent was the best hangover cure ever. I use bittorrent a lot (like many others so dont go slinging mud), and recently showed a flatmate how to use it to get some programs she needed. Hey, unlimited broadband, what's the worst that can happen?

Yesterday, this happened:


Which resulted in this:


I am in deep emotional pain. Never, EVER show a girl how to use bittorrent.