cao points jump

pathway33

apologies for the distressing headline. just wondering whats the most any course has jumped from one year to the next. low or high points doesnt matter. could be 150 to 300 or 350 to 500. is a 150 point jump possible?

tribulus

150 is certainly possible but very very unlikely.

Is there a way to check up previous points needed for courses?

I know a physics course in TCD (can't remember the full name) jumped about 70 points in 2004.

My own course (Science in UCD) jumped I think 45 points in that year too.

Yeah I think one year one course 'jumped' around 105 points. Really the smaller the intake of students the more 'jumpy' the points will be!

tribulus I can only assume that's the (infamous) Theoretical Physics course in Trinity. Goes on cycles around 530 and then down again to 470 (was 500 in Round 1 and ended up as 495* when I started it if I recall correctly).

tribulus

That's the one!

PurpleFistMixer

Ah great, that's my first choice. And I spent 6th year thinking I was gonna be doing maths, which sits somewhere in the low 400s. So long as it's not above 550 I should be grand, assuming I go up from the mocks. >.>

tribulus

Theoretical Physics in Trinity jumped 80 points from 2003-2004!

http://www2.cao.ie/points/DEG03.HTM
http://www2.cao.ie/points/DEG04.HTM

Look for TR035

There may be bigger jumps if people are bothered to look for them, I just know that one as a friend of mine missed it due to the massive jump.

Cokehead Mother

I've got a feeling TR031 will drop by 100 points this year and they'll just say '**** the irish requirement'.

Cokehead Mother

Cokehead Mother wrote: »

I've got a feeling TR031 will drop by 100 points this year and they'll just say '**** the irish requirement'.

Irish isn't specified as being required at Trinity anyway.

Bajingo

I never thought about the points going up...I really need the points to go down for my course psychology in UCD because I doubt I got 495 but all I can do is pray.

toxick

commerce with german went from 255 points to 520 i belive

Decerto

Judging by the amount of people with TP as their first choice, me including, its looks likes gonna stay the same as last year or go up:(

pathway33

toxick wrote: »

commerce with german went from 255 points to 520 i belive

where and when was that?

1huge1

pathway33 wrote: »

where and when was that?

Not in UCD or UCC anyway

yay_for_summer

Are you positive it wasn't UCC? I remember commerce and German there going up a huge amount a few years ago - it mightn't be as much as that but I know it was >100 points.

1huge1

Maybe 100 points but certainly not 250 or so as stated, ill look into it and get back to ya.

Edit:
ya checked it, only small changes in UCC
Year Points
2007 325
2006 310
2005 350

http://www.qualifax.ie/?Mainsec=courses&Subsec=course_details&ID=361&CSH_ID=18

pathway33

you can go back further on cao website.

commerce german in UCC

year points
2001 300
2002 395

but it came from a base of 425 in 2000 so 'a bit jumpy'!!!

but what about commerce italian in UCC

year points
1998 AQA (= 140 points)
1999 430

a jump of 290 points. holy mololy!!!!!!!

im...LOST

My course went up by about 70 or 80 last year. It was like 220 and it went up but 70 or 80. I was safe enough but I was surprised at how much of a jump there was.

1huge1

pathway33 wrote: »

you can go back further on cao website.

commerce german in UCC

year points
2001 300
2002 395

but it came from a base of 425 in 2000 so 'a bit jumpy'!!!

but what about commerce italian in UCC

year points
1998 AQA (= 140 points)
1999 430

a jump of 290 points. holy mololy!!!!!!!

Well the german course seems to of leveled off in recent years thankfully, as for the italien course maybe that was the 1st year it was introduced and didnt have any numbers the 1st year and the 2nd year interest jumped.

pathway33

1huge1 wrote: »

Well the german course seems to of leveled off in recent years thankfully, as for the italien course maybe that was the 1st year it was introduced and didnt have any numbers the 1st year and the 2nd year interest jumped.

that would make sense o huge one. imagine sitting there in 1999 with 400 points in your pocket and then.....no too horrific.....life does imitate art

1huge1

on another note, it was said on rte that this year had the highest ever number of applications to the cao (68,000 I believe), At first I thought this was terrible ness but the more I tihnk about it, it isnt too bad as most of those extra applications would generally be for ''lower'' courses.

pathway33

1huge1 wrote: »

on another note, it was said on rte that this year had the highest ever number of applications to the cao (68,000 I believe), At first I thought this was terrible ness but the more I tihnk about it, it isnt too bad as most of those extra applications would generally be for ''lower'' courses.

i'm sure that will be a great comfort to all the people loooking for lower courses

68,000

holy ssmoly....but theres only 58,000 doin the leaving. where have the other 10,000 come from? they didnt just fall out of the sky

this is very serious.........i think 68,000 deserves a thread of its own and you're the man to start it o huge one....i think we all nneed to be psychologically prepared for 9 days 10 hours and 34 minnutes

PurpleFistMixer

Really, you only need to prepare for two possibilities:

1: You get what you want. Happy days!
2: You don't get what you want. What do you do now? Accept anyway? Repeat? Other route?

That's all you need to worry about really. You could spend ages trying to guess what'll happen by looking at statistics and stuff, but at the end of the day, you don't really know. It'll be a tiring exercise and will probably stress you out more.

PrivateEye

The exact news none of us wanted, right at the start of the 6:1.

Like a cow in a slaughterhouse now, god!

Anyone know roughly speaking whats the average amount of points people take from the LC? I know plenty of lads who filled it out but realistically won't walk in the doors of a college on the back of their eh......study levels.

pathway33

PrivateEye wrote: »

The exact news none of us wanted, right at the start of the 6:1.

Like a cow in a slaughterhouse now, god!

Anyone know roughly speaking whats the average amount of points people take from the LC? I know plenty of lads who filled it out but realistically won't walk in the doors of a college on the back of their eh......study levels.

Don't know about the average but www.cao.ie give statistics for how many got from 600 down to less than 100 for the past 12 years. On the left Click 'points' on cao page. Next page click dropdown list 'leaving certificate points statistics'

1huge1

pathway33 wrote: »

i'm sure that will be a great comfort to all the people loooking for lower courses

68,000

holy ssmoly....but theres only 58,000 doin the leaving. where have the other 10,000 come from? they didnt just fall out of the sky

this is very serious.........i think 68,000 deserves a thread of its own and you're the man to start it o huge one....i think we all nneed to be psychologically prepared for 9 days 10 hours and 34 minnutes

Well ya know a lot of mature students and the likes. I heard Fetac mentioned aswel though I'm not entirely sure what that is, maybe foreign students?

But I have to agree with PurpleFistMixer just be prepared for those 2 possibilities and well there's not much else you can do.

Oh and pathway why do you keep calling me ''o huge one''? Though it is better than the terrible nickname I chose... maybe it'll catch on

pathway33

1huge1 wrote: »

Well ya know a lot of mature students and the likes. I heard Fetac mentioned aswel though I'm not entirely sure what that is, maybe foreign students?

But I have to agree with PurpleFistMixer just be prepared for those 2 possibilities and well there's not much else you can do.

Oh and pathway why do you keep calling me ''o huge one''? Though it is better than the terrible nickname I chose... maybe it'll catch on

re: 'o huge one' - have you not seen the limerick full-forwards? huge
limerick for the all-irelands

re fetac.....dunnno

Foreign
Europeans
Tripping
And
Cao-ing

pathway33

PrivateEye wrote: »

The exact news none of us wanted, right at the start of the 6:1.

Like a cow in a slaughterhouse now, god!

Anyone know roughly speaking whats the average amount of points people take from the LC? I know plenty of lads who filled it out but realistically won't walk in the doors of a college on the back of their eh......study levels.

the most popular bracket based on 50 point brackets is 350 points to 399. its been the same for the last 13 years!!!!!!!

1huge1

pathway33 wrote: »

re: 'o huge one' - have you not seen the limerick full-forwards? huge
limerick for the all-irelands

Nicely put, well that settles that then.

pathway33 wrote: »

the most popular bracket based on 50 point brackets is 350 points to 399. its been the same for the last 13 years!!!!!!!

And id say that most courses are withing that bracket aswel.

Whimsical

WHY WHY can't we all just go to college..i promise I'll study..burn the midnight oil even Gosh I hope geography and sociology in trinity doesn't jump up past 450...people anyway we will all get something all this stress..up at 11 on a saturday morning its not natural

Tea-a-Maria

Well..my course is new,so I can't gauge changes in points..but it only has 5 places!

dan719

tribulus wrote: »

150 is certainly possible but very very unlikely.

Is there a way to check up previous points needed for courses?

I know a physics course in TCD (can't remember the full name) jumped about 70 points in 2004.

My own course (Science in UCD) jumped I think 45 points in that year too.

Theoretical Physics in TCD is very volatile in terms of points, and regularly varies by 100 plus points, seems to have settled down recently around 500 mark.

lilmizzme

Ugh, lads this is my 2nd time doing this CAO crap...this time last year i was sitting guessing at points too....really didnt think id be doing it again this year!!

Praying for Irish/History in Trinity to stay put this year....please please please!!

x-xLouisex-x

commerce international with german in nuig went from 375 in 2005 to 235 in 2006 to 425 in 2007 im really worried it will go up again as theres only 15 places

NY152

The average course fluctuates 10 points a year, either way, which is a bloody good thing cos i got 390 the year i did mine, my course was 400, and i dropped to exactly 390!!!!!

brucer24!

ya its normal between 5-15 either way..the course i wanted was 455 in 2006,i got 460 last year...it then jumped to 465! was gutted but it was the best thing that ever happened to me..so everything really does happen for a reason guys!!

TransititionMan

Now thinking of going into medicine and automaticly thought that a doctor would be a brilliant job to have, naive young soul that I am, so I decided to look it up, even though Im still awaiting my Junior Cert results, and anyway I thougt somewhere local would be the best so Im thinking of UCC.
So on this big calander my brother brought home from there one day I decided to look for "Doctor".
Not far did I have to look before my future ambitions were torn apart, stood on, stepped on and harshly buried under a thousand broken dreams when it came to be that the doctor course at this particular college was 580 points.
Now be being a "not bad" student at the best of times this seemed impossile for me at the time but that anger soon turned to anger at the amount of points one has to get to do this course...
This is a stupid amount of points for a course, in fact, the highest amount of points got in our school was 580 and the girl got a scholorship for it also...
I have alternatives though, going into Transition Year now and have two main careers in mind, Financing and Medical to give the catagories...
Looking forward to TY and hoping it will prepare me for the Junor Cert.
Also to finish this novel, I will congratulate all Leaving Cert students, tres bonne =]
Dont celebrate too hard :P

NY152

Hahaha thats like telling them not too breath....impossible and stupid :P

TransititionMan

At least someone shares my point of view, a petition I reckong towards them and the extortional amounts of points needed to access particular courses!! >=]

TransititionMan

TransititionMan wrote: »

At least someone shares my point of view, a petition I reckong towards them and the extortional amounts of points needed to access particular courses!! >=]

Points are influenced by supply & demand, so it's not people setting arbitrary point levels.

Yuugib

Hm doesn anybody have any ideas about Actuary and Financial studies in UCD? Any of you applying there? I wonder if the points will go up this year..

cmb.

it is unusual but it does happen - cao points are all about demand and it can happen that demeand for a couse increases/decreases - it happened to me (the points went up on me by over 100 points & had to wait for the 3rd round to get the couse i wanted - i was signed up to repeat when i got the acceptance) BUT its very very rare & i wouldnt be beating myself up worrieng about it

thatone!

I got 340 and am hoping to do arts in UCD but last year it was 345, do you think there is a possibility that it will drop or is it more likely to go up?

Of course there's a possibility. There's also a possibility that someday I'll be dictator of the world. You're asking a question that no-one anywhere can answer with authority, so the only thing (as tough as it is) is to wait and get up early on Monday morning.

By the by, know any countries that need some oppression saving?

Drodan

Im in the exact same position thatone it sucks I know.

Some colleges can keep the points for certain courses artificailly high by reducing the places availible, by 5 lets say, each year. My friend's dad is a lecturer at a certain cough-is-for-winners college and the amount of students in his class would change depending on the points of the previous year. It's a silly prestige thing. I'm sure it;s rare enough though *trying not to scare people*