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random girl

while in UCD I noticed a weird, old guy, in long coat, walking around the campus. Honestly he gives me creeps and im a little concerned, especially i see him and have to walk past him almost everyday.
who is he and should he be allowed to be on the campus?

Stabshauptmann

you've never seen a homeless person before?

cue urban myths about homeless guy...

Dave!

He's an (apparantly) homeless dude, and has been there for years. Leave him alone, he doesn't cause any harm.

Thomas_S_Hunterson

He's Hugh Brady's father

syklops

I have seen him too, and was wondering. Is it really ok to have a homeless man around campus, I mean it does not look that good?

He obviously scared the OP. Has anything been done to help him?

Seifer

I'ver heard this second hand from a few people but assume no liability for it. He's allowed stick around because he stopped some girl from being raped / attacked awhile back.

RandolphEsq

He has been wandering around these streets for at least 7 years. Apparently he is Jesus II

Handsome Bob

random girl wrote: »

while in UCD I noticed a weird, old guy, in long coat, walking around the campus. Honestly he gives me creeps and im a little concerned, especially i see him and have to walk past him almost everyday.
who is he and should he be allowed to be on the campus?

Ah he's harmless, don't worry about it. He keeps to himself too so it is not as if he's hassling anyone:)

Bubs101

Librocop pays him to be his informer and his eyes and ears outside the library. Inside his tranchcoat he has a list of stolen library books and he gets 3 free sandwiches for each one he tracks down.Librocop even invented the "rape" myth so the students would put up with him without suspicion .Next time Librocop catches you, you know who to blame

Stabshauptmann

syklops wrote: »

I have seen him too, and was wondering. Is it really ok to have a homeless man around campus, I mean it does not look that good?

He obviously scared the OP. Has anything been done to help him?

Well my heart goes out to you. I know its not easy for you and the OP; the homeless person is being awfully inconsiderate. How do you suggest we tackle the problem? Round up all the homeless people and put them somewhere out of sight?

Tayto2000

He's here at least ten years now...

Frisbee

random girl wrote: »

while in UCD I noticed a weird, old guy, in long coat, walking around the campus. Honestly he gives me creeps and im a little concerned, especially i see him and have to walk past him almost everyday.
who is he and should he be allowed to be on the campus?

He's been there a lot longer than you OP so he has more right to say he wants you out probably...
Seeing a homeless person scares you?
You must have lived a very sheltered life...

Sarn

He's been around at least 14 years. He's like UCD's mascot. There have been several threads over the years on this issue.

mloc

id say its probably the most discussed non-education topic along with LibroCop and Pat Patterson.

He's been there a good 15 or so years, I live beside UCD and he's been there as long as I can remember. He doesn't talk to people, he just walks around a bit of a route everyday. Think he likes the idea of having people around him, which is fair enough. Whether the rape thing is true or not, he has never caused any trouble and is as welcome in most buildings as anyone else.

elgriff

He is basically the last man you want to be afraid of. Known only as the UCD Bum, he has been dicsussed here many times. The thread that discussed his addiction to the pocket money game underneath the library:

http://squibble.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055241773

Mentioned here too:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56674862

Seifer

elgriff wrote:

he has been dicsussed here many times.

Lol, sterling research into the archives. A thread from two weeks ago that barely mentions him and one from the start of the year.

Riamfada

Nothing screams D4 like some of the posters in this thread.

Oh my gawd.. A vagrant. I mean seriously loike, UCD is for people who can afford to be here. Loike.

I think the fact that he is treated well and tolerated on campus does alot more for UCD's image than swarms of "new money"

Seifer

Grimes wrote:

Nothing screams D4 like some of the posters in this thread.

That's such bullsh!t. Maybe you're a big, huge guy comfortable walking around on your own anywhere but take a second and imagine you're a girl and you're walking down some of the less travelled paths and he pops out. He doesn't exactly look friendly.

Grimes wrote:

I think the fact that he is treated well and tolerated on campus does alot more for UCD's image than swarms of "new money"

This is twaddle too. Any potential investors walking around campus are in no way going to find him endearing and at best will be indifferent to him.

boneless

An unusual first post random girl. However, the man in question is completely harmless.

Handsome Bob

Seifer wrote: »

That's such bullsh!t. Maybe you're a big, huge guy comfortable walking around on your own anywhere but take a second and imagine you're a girl and you're walking down some of the less travelled paths and he pops out. He doesn't exactly look friendly.

Hold on now, that man has been there for many, many years. He has earned the trust of UCD. It's not his problem if a freshman or freshwoman crosses paths with him for the 1st time and they react badly.

Seifer wrote: »

This is twaddle too. Any potential investors walking around campus are in no way going to find him endearing and at best will be indifferent to him.

:rolleyes: It's UCD, one of Dublins headline University's. UCD has never had problems with "investors" before.

fish-head

The UCD Bum is UCDs prime investor. He just doens't like to show off.

tribulus

He mightn't look entirely friendly but the thought of him mugging someone is laughable, you could purchase and consume a roll from 911 in the time it takes him to stand up off his bench, never mind attack you.

DirkVoodoo

OP, grow up. I think if he were a problem he would have been removed from the campus a long time ago. Just because he looks a little scruffy and smells a bit like cabbage, doesn't mean he is thinking of ways to leap on top of you. Maybe like that girl, you will appreciate him being around some night when services are fecking around the other end of campus.

Jeez!

random girl

Seifer wrote: »

That's such bullsh!t. Maybe you're a big, huge guy comfortable walking around on your own anywhere but take a second and imagine you're a girl and you're walking down some of the less travelled paths and he pops out. He doesn't exactly look friendly.

thats exactly what I meant.
Maybe i didnt express myself too well, but all I was looking for was some sort of assurance he's harmless.
thanks for all the answers

RandolphEsq

Seifer wrote: »

imagine you're a girl and you're walking down some of the less travelled paths and he pops out. He doesn't exactly look friendly.

LOL he just ''pops out'' when you walk around does he? You walk along the main street walkway and he just jumps out at you shouting ''boogah boogah boogah''

Seifer

LZ5by5 wrote:

Hold on now, that man has been there for many, many years. He has earned the trust of UCD. It's not his problem if a freshman or freshwoman crosses paths with him for the 1st time and they react badly.

So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus.

LZ5by5 wrote:

It's UCD, one of Dublins headline University's. UCD has never had problems with "investors" before.

Yeah that's why it turns a budget surplus every year. You often see groups of people in suits walking around campus or people attending various conferences; he is not going to leave a good impression on those people.

DirkVoodoo wrote:

OP, grow up. I think if he were a problem he would have been removed from the campus a long time ago.

She was asking who he was, she didn't know. How is she to know how long he's been there? And as I said how does that matter in any way?

I couldn't care less whether he stays or goes but there's no need to get all high and mighty just because someone asked a question.

pretty*monster

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Hold on now, that man has been there for many, many years. He has earned the trust of UCD. It's not his problem if a freshman or freshwoman crosses paths with him for the 1st time and they react badly.

Gee whiz, I know I sure was shaking in my stylish yet affordable boots the first time I saw him shuffling around with a menacing aimlesness. Seriously kids, it's important that we discriminate against harmless people who look different because they may disturb the timid, and in the end, isn't that the real truth.

Dave!

That's deep, pretty monster.

ozt9vdujny3srf

I heard he was a total dick.

Pride Fighter

Valentin Zealous Soil wrote: »

I heard he was a total dick.

He prefers to be called Richard:D

The_Minister

Valentin Zealous Soil wrote: »

I heard he was a total dick.

Only when certain champagne socialists decided to be condescending and buy him dinner.

Without asking him if he wanted charity.

Or what he wanted to eat.

boneless

Seifer wrote: »

So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus.

Call the cops....

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Seifer wrote: »

So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus.

Actually, if he's been there more than 12 years, he may well have more than just squatters rights and, with a good lawyer, may well be able to claim legal ownership of the part of campus on which he lives.

Tom65

I always used to end up getting food in the SU shop at the same time as him. This leads me to believe he has some buisness to attend to in the college - why else would he get lunch at the same time every day?

Dave!

Tom65 wrote: »

I always used to end up getting food in the SU shop at the same time as him. This leads me to believe he has some buisness to attend to in the college - why else would he get lunch at the same time every day?

That's when he gets hungry? lol

panda100

The_Minister wrote: »

Only when certain champagne socialists decided to be condescending and buy him dinner.

Without asking him if he wanted charity.

Or what he wanted to eat.

Actually he always nods at me everytime I walk past him so he obviously didnt feel that patronised by me,I presume your talking about me.
But yes thinking back buying him dinner was not the best thing to do,but I was only trying to be kind in the folly of youth.

Better trying to be nice than worrying about the effect he has on potential UCD investors walking around campus :rolleyes:

RandolphEsq

Pride Fighter wrote: »

He prefers to be called Richard:D

Richard Features

Handsome Bob

Seifer wrote: »

So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus..

Yes, yes he does. If he's been here for 13 years without incident what do you think? I think he would have gotten the heev-ho by now if there was a problem.

Seifer wrote: »

Yeah that's why it turns a budget surplus every year. You often see groups of people in suits walking around campus or people attending various conferences; he is not going to leave a good impression on those people.

There are a number of reasons that the budget is "tight". Namely, that UCD for some reason are pumping considerable money into research rather than spending it on the actual college.

And come off it, look at the campus. There are plenty of services such as grocery stores, book stores, places of leisure and a gym. Then there is the fact the registry office has a whole new building now. UCD isn't doing that bad.

And you do know don't you that most of the suits walking around aren't investors? They rent out the likes of O Reilly Hall for their OWN conferences:rolleyes:

Seifer

LZ5by5 wrote:

There are a number of reasons that the budget is "tight".

The budget is not 'tight' it has been running at a deficit for the last few years.

LZ5by5 wrote:

Namely, that UCD for some reason are pumping considerable money into research rather than spending it on the actual college.

Most of the money that funds research is not UCD money it comes from outside sources.

LZ5by5 wrote:

And come off it, look at the campus. There are plenty of services such as grocery stores, book stores, places of leisure and a gym.

The gym has nothing to do with the college and on an international scale, UCD's facilities pale in comparison.

LZ5by5 wrote:

And you do know don't you that most of the suits walking around aren't investors? They rent out the likes of O Reilly Hall for their OWN conferences

Everyone is a potential investor. Sure they might not be on campus for that reason now but could be in the future.

And to the ridiculous overuse of the rolleyes in this thread; it doesn't make your point any stronger kids.

Handsome Bob

Seifer wrote: »

The budget is not 'tight' it has been running at a deficit for the last few years.

Do you really believe everything you read? As far as i'm concerned, it's just a ploy to re-introduce heavy fees.

Seifer wrote: »

Most of the money that funds research is not UCD money it comes from outside sources.

Maybe UCD should stop concentrating so much on enchancing its' research reputation and concentrate on enchancing its' academic reputation.

Seifer wrote: »

The gym has nothing to do with the college and on an international scale, UCD's facilities pale in comparison.

I agree but as I mentioned above, that has nothing to do with one homeless guy....

Seifer wrote: »

Everyone is a potential investor. Sure they might not be on campus for that reason now but could be in the future.

Again, I doubt they'd be swayed by one homeless guy. What you're saying is like saying American Investors aren't interested in investing in the likes of Man U and Liverpool because of a minority hooligan element (furthermore the homeless has never done anything wrong so what you're saying is even more laughable).

Seifer wrote: »

And to the ridiculous overuse of the rolleyes in this thread; it doesn't make your point any stronger kids.

Says the guy who has games down as his one and only interest :rolleyes:

Seifer

LZ5by5 wrote:

Says the guy who has games down as his one and only interest

Lol, I won't be wasting anymore time on you my ignorant friend.

Girl asked for information on shady looking guy she had seen around campus. Only needed to be told he's known to be harmless minus all the holier than thou attitude.

Het-Field

I dont think that one should condemn the OP. In fact its a question posed by many perople who enter UCD.

However, I would appeal to all like the OP not to be alarmed. He is timid, and he has never displayed an ounce of menace.

As the Minister pointed out, he does get pissed when people buy him dinner.

Best thing to do is leave him alone, and make no interaction with him. He will care less.

Handsome Bob

Seifer wrote: »

Lol, I won't be wasting anymore time on you my ignorant friend.

Girl asked for information on shady looking guy she had seen around campus. Only needed to be told he's known to be harmless minus all the holier than thou attitude.

I'm not the one patronising people by calling them "kids" and furthermore, making highly sheltered statements.

random girl made her fears known, she got her answer. I pulled you up for making ridiculous statements about a man who has no blemish on his record, he has earned enough trust.

And look at my 1st post here in this thread too, I wasn't "holier than thou" with her, I explained it simply without judging her.

The_Minister

Seifer wrote: »

Lol, I won't be wasting anymore time on you my ignorant friend.

Infracted.
Attack the post not the poster.

Awayindahils

I realise that there is a whole other conversation happening in this thread now but just wanted to at my two cents about the homeless guy. i've been living near UCD my whole life and my parents have always given that guy money. In fact I have lost track of the number of times my mum has stopped the car and told me to get out handy me cash. He is harmless enough. In the Spar at Woodbine he stands at the back of the shop and the manager makes him a roll and gets him a pack of cigarettes and the man hands over whatever money he has at the time. I've never heard anything bad about him but I have from time to time gotten strange looks from UCD students when I go up to him.

Tom65

Dave! wrote: »

That's when he gets hungry? lol

At the same time!? Every day!? I think it's part of a large conspiracy...or have they gotten to you, too?

boneless

Only once has he ever asked me for something and that was for a lend of my lighter to spark up a fag. He even offered me one. I was doing some work in UCD at the time and was carrying a WT so I assumed he thought I was with services. This would indicate that he has a good relationship with Services.

mloc

It should probably also be pointed out I've never seen him drinking either.

Tayto2000

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Do you really believe everything you read? As far as i'm concerned, it's just a ploy to re-introduce heavy fees.
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As with everything else, consider the source you're reading and apply some critical thinking. The above statement just makes you come off as (a) snide and (b) paranoid.

The UCD Bum (Surely he should have a better title than this by now?) has been a fixture for a long time now, I've always admired him, he seems to be a model of stoicism and politeness. OP, there's nothing to fear from this man. It might even be that the stories about him are true.

Also, some may have noticed that there have occasionally been other homeless people on campus who have been chased off by services, presumably after complaints. Does anyone remember the smelly abusive guy who kept going into the library shop one year?

And finally, @ LZ5by5 off topic, but free fees unfortunately haven't worked. Successive governments have steadily choked off the cash supply over the years and if that happened during the boom years, do you really believe that funding will be forthcoming now that the economy has taken a dive? I fully favour the reintroduction of fees for those that can afford to pay them.

That's not to say that the way money is spent in UCD shouldn't be tightened up though.

syklops

I have never in my life seen so many sanctimonious thread replies in one place at roughly the one time. The OP asked a valid and pertinent question on the university forum and instead got nothing but abusive answers from all but one user, Seifer, who got an infraction for being abusive!!! Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong?

If this guy is in the campus for 8,10,12,14 years as previous posters have said, why not tell new employees/students of his existence, and ensure them that hs is ok?

It may interest one of the previous poster's to know the OP's origianl location is no where close to D4. That aside, it should not matter where someone is from to ask a question. I thought discussions forums such as this is where questions and discussion was meant to happen. I think boards new tagline should be "now ye're flamin'". not "now ye're talkin'", as that is what seems to be happening. Mods, please look at the comments that were made to the OP. If this is deemed ok, then I do not wish to be apart of boards.ie anymore.

I think all posters, apart from Seifer and the OP should feel ashamed for how they reacted.

If I get banned for this post then I do not care, as banning me will solidify my point.

Handsome Bob

Tayto2000 wrote: »

As with everything else, consider the source you're reading and apply some critical thinking. The above statement just makes you come off as (a) snide and (b) paranoid.

Excuse me for being "paranoid", but not everyone is in the position to pay those fees if they came back. It would be thousands of euro every year and that is just not acceptable. I think the entrance fee, which increased last year to about 970 euro, should be more than enough. Watch the personal insults too mate........

Tayto2000 wrote: »

And finally, @ LZ5by5 off topic, but free fees unfortunately haven't worked. Successive governments have steadily choked off the cash supply over the years and if that happened during the boom years, do you really believe that funding will be forthcoming now that the economy has taken a dive? I fully favour the reintroduction of fees for those that can afford to pay them.

That's not to say that the way money is spent in UCD shouldn't be tightened up though.

But there is still the entrance fee. Which basically stands at 1000 euro now. We already have the problem of an LC which can be tactically dissected by the best teachers to such a degree that even the least intelligent person in the class can score quite highly.

If heavy fees are re-introduced it basically cuts off the chance of many people who have the intelligence and the drive to succeed and flourish at 3rd Level but they can't go because the family can't afford it.