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The dreaded National ID card is on the way. Say no more.

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  • 05-08-2008 7:41pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    Only last week we are told that a proposed electronic card will be required to travel between the UK and Ireland. To night we are told of this new "wonderful" Government ID card for civil servants. No doubt this chipped photo card will issued to those on the dole so that they can collect their payments at the local post office.

    It will also be issued to pensioners ones getting free travel and free medical. It may also be required as a photo ID card to those that don’t have an Irish Drivers licenses, and may compulsory to be used along with tickets to enter football matches to "prevent touting" and keep an eye on "hooligans"

    According to the press "The new single card will replace a whole range of cards which are used to access Government services". In other words this is the dreaded RFID based National ID card creeping into Ireland.

    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/new-state-id-cards-on-way-1446912.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Jesus you should have your own forum for this stuff by now. :rolleyes:


    At least then I could avoid all of it at once.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    and may compulsory to be used along with tickets to enter football matches to "prevent touting" and keep an eye on "hooligans"


    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/new-state-id-cards-on-way-1446912.html


    Where does it state the above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Only last week we are told that a proposed electronic card will be required to travel between the UK and Ireland. .

    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/new-state-id-cards-on-way-1446912.html



    For as long as I can remember you have had to show official photo id returning to Ireland by air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Where does it state the above.

    In his head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    I, for one welcome our new National ID Card (Overlords).............


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Where does it state the above.
    It dosen't state that in the above and I never said it did. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    It dosen't state that in the above and I never said it did. :rolleyes:

    Nope, you just made up a tabloidy headline to make nothign look like something. Do you actually own the Herald by any chance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    It dosen't state that in the above and I never said it did. :rolleyes:

    So whats your source :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    I think it is a great idea. Civil liberites are always trying to scare-monger instead of actually being constructive and loping in their support but still trying to protect mis-use of these cards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭Töpher


    No more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    So whats your source :rolleyes:
    "However, civil liberties groups fear the photo ID and information on the cards could lead to a national ID card". Evening Herald.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    "However, civil liberties groups fear the photo ID and information on the cards could lead to a national ID card". Evening Herald.


    Where does it state that it may compulsory to be used along with tickets to enter football matches to "prevent touting" and keep an eye on "hooligans


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Where does it say "The dreaded National ID card is on the way"? A few people raised a concern that it could go down that path (As they always do / should), but you stated it as a fact ("In other words this is the dreaded RFID based National ID card creeping into Ireland.").


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    "However, civil liberties groups fear the photo ID and information on the cards could lead to a national ID card". Evening Herald.

    So because a group of people said somethign could happen, then it will?

    Civil liberties group are a bunch of scareemongering whingebags at the best of times.

    What swrong with ID cards anyway?Most of us have passports and Drivers licences that people whinge about being too bog to carry around.
    None of my German friends or family have any issue with haveing an id card. But then again they seem capable of rational thinkiing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    You mean I voted no to Lisbon and they're still going to put microchips under our skin. The No campaign lied to me.

    /I feel used


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    javaboy wrote: »
    You mean I voted no to Lisbon and they're still going to put microchips under our skin. The No campaign lied to me.

    /I feel used

    Nope, not under your skin. If you stare at the Libertas posters long enough an image of an RFID buttplug appears.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭ImDave


    Who cares if a National ID card system is on the way?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    It seems it's not as imminent as thought. Personally i think when they do come about it'll be great. Nothing to hide nothing to fear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,580 ✭✭✭uberwolf


    what's wrong with a National ID card?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Karoma wrote: »
    Where does it say "The dreaded National ID card is on the way"? A few people raised a concern that it could go down that path (As they always do / should), but you stated it as a fact ("In other words this is the dreaded RFID based National ID card creeping into Ireland.").
    It is a fact no doubt about it. This is the card that will eventually let us pass between the UK and Ireland, access our dole payments and give certain people access into government buildings.


    RFID is programmable and this "chameleon card" can change into any ID card that the Government wants it to once it is issued. Once it has a photo and microchip the door is open for all sorts of uses including the future driving license.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    It is a fact no doubt about it. This is the card that will eventually let us pass between the UK and Ireland, access our dole payments and give certain people access into government buildings.


    RFID is programmable and this "chameleon card" can change into any ID card that the Government wants it to once it is issued. Once it has a photo and microchip the door is open for all sorts of uses including the future driving license.

    Your opinion is not fact. FACT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,985 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    uberwolf wrote: »
    What's wrong with a National ID card?

    +1


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    It is a fact no doubt about it. This is the card that will eventually let us pass between the UK and Ireland, access our dole payments and give certain people access into government buildings.
    .


    If your not on the dole or entitled to access government buildings you wont need one then. Your passport will let you travel.

    Anyway. As I already said. I have no issue with a national ID card. It'll make life easier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Karoma wrote: »
    Your opinion is not fact. FACT.

    Mine is. FACT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    So this one card will replace lots of other cards?


    So instead of carrying around many cards you just carry this ONE card...


    And this is bad how? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    I really can't see the problem with this. If you have nothing to hide, what's the issue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    who gives 2 ****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    uberwolf wrote: »
    what's wrong with a National ID card?
    The Roma community will not have one


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭Naos


    Replace many cards with one card: Check
    Prevent people abusing the dole: Check
    Access to Govt buildings if permitted: Check
    Prevent underagers entering Pub/Club: Check
    Don't need passport to travel to England: Check

    ...

    Sorry what's the problem here OP?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Naos wrote: »
    Replace many cards with one card: Check
    Prevent people abusing the dole: Check
    Access to Govt buildings if permitted: Check
    Prevent underagers entering Pub/Club: Check
    Don't need passport to travel to England: Check

    ...

    Sorry what's the problem here OP?


    The lizards.









    The Lizards!!!!!!


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