Irish Abroad 2008/2009

tetsujin1979

As some of you know, I own and operate a small football statistics site, based around the appearance data of Irish players based in England and Scotland.

I've updated the site with the first few competitive games of the new season, and as many of the transfer deals as I've managed to find over the summer

I've left the stats from last season on the site for the time being, and I'll probably archive them off somewhere else soon.

As always, if you notice anything wrong or missing, or are unhappy with anything in particular, let me know and I'll fix it as soon as I can

Here's to the new season - http://www.chatsoccer.net/

Peyton Manning

Very handy website you got there.

You might want to add Pat McCourt to the list, who signed for Celtic from Derry City, or is he Northern?

tetsujin1979

Archimedes wrote: »

Very handy website you got there.

You might want to add Pat McCourt to the list, who signed for Celtic from Derry City, or is he Northern?

Cheers, it's a lot of work, but I'm proud of it, even if the UI is crap!

McCourt is a Northern Irish international, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddy_McCourt

In June 2002, he seemed to have the world at his feet when the then Northern Ireland manager Sammy McIlroy handed him his senior international debut against the might of Spain at Windsor Park

SantryRed

Take Kieran Westwood out of there. He is in no way an Irishman.

zAbbo

SantryRed wrote: »

Take Kieran Westwood out of there. He is in no way an Irishman.

Or Lee Trundle

eZe^

David Meyler was in my school, 19 years old, just got signed to Sunderland from Cork. Undisclosed fee, thought to be about 160,000.

tetsujin1979

SantryRed wrote: »

Take Kieran Westwood out of there. He is in no way an Irishman.

Irish enough for Trap to include him in the last squad.

zAbbo wrote: »

Or Lee Trundle

Trundle has a full Irish passport

eZe^ wrote: »

David Meyler was in my school, 19 years old, just got signed to Sunderland from Cork. Undisclosed fee, thought to be about 160,000.

I thought about including him, but the site really only caters to players in the senior team of each club, and I really don't see him playing for Sunderland this season. If he does make an appearance, I'll add him in

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for the first day of the new Championship season: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-09
Lee Carsley, Paddy McCarthy, Mark Kennedy, Clinton Morrison, and James O'Connor all made their debuts for their Championship clubs on the first day of the season
Stephen Kelly missed out with a groin strain
JJ Melligan scored the first Irish goal of the season
Lee Carsley, James O'Connor, Michael Collins, Alan Dunne, Michael Timlin and Peter Gain all picked up bookings

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for 10th August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-10
Julian Kelly makes his first appearance on the bench for Reading, after impressing in pre-season
John O'Shea starts the Community Shield for the second year in a row

DSB

Would it not make sense to count Irish players playing in Ireland too? I don't mean that in a cynical sense either, more as feedback.

tetsujin1979

DSB wrote: »

Would it not make sense to count Irish players playing in Ireland too? I don't mean that in a cynical sense either, more as feedback.

no, it's a fair point. The thing is, it's a lot easier to collect the data automatically for games in England and Scotland than in Ireland.
I did look into collecting the appearance data for games in the eL, but it turned out the simplest way of doing it was to manually enter the teams, bookings, goals, etc, and I simply don't have the time for it.
If anyone has the time, or the patience, to collect the matchday data for the eircom League, I'll put together an app to generate the data for the website.

DSB

tetsujin1979 wrote: »

no, it's a fair point. The thing is, it's a lot easier to collect the data automatically for games in England and Scotland than in Ireland.
I did look into collecting the appearance data for games in the eL, but it turned out the simplest way of doing it was to manually enter the teams, bookings, goals, etc, and I simply don't have the time for it.
If anyone has the time, or the patience, to collect the matchday data for the eircom League, I'll put together an app to generate the data for the website.

Just get someone to collect the data from each club. I'd do Shels, and I think there is at least someone here representing all the clubs on here, can't think of any that aren't represented. Possibly Kildare County aren't actually.

tetsujin1979

DSB wrote: »

Just get someone to collect the data from each club. I'd do Shels, and I think there is at least someone here representing all the clubs on here, can't think of any that aren't represented. Possibly Kildare County aren't actually.

Fair enough, if I get enough volunteers, I'll look into it
you'd all receive full credit as well

DSB

Class stuff, just the idea of a site dedicated to Irish abroad seems to be glorifying the idea that players leave the national league. Would definitely be more accessible to more people if it was for Irish footballers in general. I'd definitely find it more interesting anyway.

SectionF

Does the Irish League count as abroad?

tetsujin1979

SectionF wrote: »

Does the Irish League count as abroad?

I'I'm not going to get into a big discussion about the Irish League, but I'm not willing to do a site for it.

DmanDmythDledge

tetsujin1979 wrote: »

I'I'm not going to get into a big discussion about the Irish League, but I'm not willing to do a site for it.

Think he meant about players from the Republic playing in that league.

Anyway I always wanted to do a stats site for the EL but don't have the capabilities. I'll be willing to do the stats for UCD, have most of them already anyway.

tetsujin1979

DmanDmythDledge wrote: »

Think he meant about players from the Republic playing in that league.

Anyway I always wanted to do a stats site for the EL but don't have the capabilities. I'll be willing to do the stats for UCD, have most of them already anyway.

Ok, if I get volunteers willing to do each club, I'll work on it, but I'm going to need some guarantees

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Monday, 11th August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-11
Jamie McCarthy makes his first appearance in the SPL
Minor update, Conor Sammon made his debut for Kilmarnock on Saturday

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Tuesday, 12 August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-12
Noel Hunt scored his first goal for his new club
Alan Lee, Peter Murphy, Damien Delaney, and Billy Clarke also found the back of the net
Julian Kelly played 90 minutes for the first time
Robbie Williams has the unfortunate honour of being the first Irishman sent off this season

Irish Abroad for Wednesday, 13th August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-13
Clinton Morrison gets off the mark for his new club, in only his second game
Diarmuid O'Carroll made his debut for Morecambe
Stephen Quinn was the only goalscorer on the night

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 16th August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-16
Keith Treacy made his senior debut for Blackburn as a second half substitute
Caleb Folan was the unlikely first Irish goalscorer in the Premiership this season, Ben Burgess was the only other goalscorer on the day
16 year old James Wallace was on the subs bench for Everton
Adam Rooney made his first appearance of the season, on loan at Inverness Caledonian Thistle

Incidentally, if someone can provide me with James Wallace's exact date of birth, I'd be very grateful

Irish Abroad for Sunday, 17th August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Shay Given completed 90 minutes for Newcastle for the first time since the 9th February
Darron Gibson was an unused substitute for Manchester United

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 23rd August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Damien Duff taken off with a knee injury at half time
Liam Lawrence, Stephen Quinn, Stephen Hunt, Jimmy Ryan and Billy Mehmet scored their first of the season
Alex Bruce was sent off
Adam Rooney made his first start for Inverness Caley Thistle

Gelio

Thats a nice site you have there
Keep it up

tetsujin1979

ajeffares wrote: »

Thats a nice site you have there
Keep it up

Cheers, it started as posts on foot.ie and chatsoccer.eu, and went from there to a full site

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Tuesday, 26th August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Glenn Whelan opened his account for the new season
Noel Hunt scored from a Stephen Hunt cross, then Stephen Hunt scored from a Noel Hunt cross!
Billy Mehmet and Jon Daly both scored hat tricks
Graham Barrett made his first appearance of the season
Dave Mooney made his debut for Reading

SantryRed

Eh John Joe O'Toole scored last night?

tetsujin1979

SantryRed wrote: »

Eh John Joe O'Toole scored last night?

I don't list everything that happened, there's no incentive to click the link then!
For the record, the list of goalscorers was
Chris McCann
Glenn Whelan
Clinton Morrison
Jonathan Douglas
Noel Hunt
Stephen Hunt
John-Joe O'Toole
Jon Daly
Billy Mehmet

SantryRed

Thought you may have missed it is all.

tetsujin1979

SantryRed wrote: »

Thought you may have missed it is all.

No problem, probably should have explained I don't post everything that happened in the updates

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, September 30th 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-08-30
Keith Andrews made his first appearance in the Premiership for Blackburn
Kevin Doyle opened his account for the season with a hat trick, his first in English football
Mark Yeates also got his first goals of the season, with a brace
Diarmuid O'Carroll scored two minutes after coming off the bench for Morecambe
Billy Clarke is the first Irish player to score four in a single game in some time!

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad statistics for August 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/august.xquery
Lee Carsley strengthens the case for his inclusion in the squad by winning more games than any other midfielder, along with Stephen Hunt
Graham Stack proves the worth of his move to Plymouth by starting more games in August than he did in 2007/2008 season!
Robbie Keane[url][/url] was substituted more than any other player
Andy Keogh was the most introduced substitute
Only one defender scored in August - Damien Delaney of QPR
Stephen Quinn, JJ O'Toole, Noel Hunt and Billy Clarke were the biggest talisman (talismen?) of the month, every time they scored, their team went on to win with two wins each

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 13th September 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Paul McShane made his first appearance of the season, on loan at Hull
Congratulations to Keith Andrews on making his first start in the Premiership, on his 28th birthday
Jonathan Walters, Michael Spillane, Jamie McCarthy Adam Rooney scored their first goals of the season
Donal McDermott made the debut appearance of his career, on loan at MK Dons

Also, Karl Moore has been added to the site: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=49842

eirebhoy

Good start for McShane. Hull are doing very well so far.

Ireland looked class against Man City. He's as intelligent with the ball as they come. He's terrible defensively though.

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 18 October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-10-18
Garry Doherty made his first appearance of the season for Norwich
Chris McCann scored his third of the season, and second in two games
Stephen Elliott scored his first for Preston, in his first start for his new club
Stephen Hunt scored his third penalty of the season, which was also his sixth goal overall and his fourth goal in five games
Graham Kavanagh marked his first home appearance at Carlisle with a goal
Scott Davies scored his fifth goal in nine games, on loan at Aldershot

Irish Abroad for Sundate, 20 October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Rory Delap continued his recent good form with his first goal of the season
Anthony Stokes came off the bench for his first appearance on loan at Sheffield United

I've added recent U-21 call up Anthony Pilkington to the site: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=45924
If there's a big enough demand for it, I'll add his stats for the previous two seasons as well

Pure Cork

I think you're missing John O'Flynn at Barnet.

Billy Dennehy signed for Derry City, not Cork City because of our situation at the time :cool:

George O'Callaghan moved to Tranmere Rovers back in July.

EDIT:
Dominic Foley at Gent
It's Dave Mooney, not David Mooney
Stephen O'Donnell is currently at Bohs
Robbie Doyle - Sporting Fingal

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Monday, 20th October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Richard Dunne scored his third OG in three seasons
Stephen Ireland scored his second goal in two games, his fourth of the season

tetsujin1979

Pure Cork wrote: »

I think you're missing John O'Flynn at Barnet.

added: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=49962

Pure Cork wrote: »

Billy Dennehy signed for Derry City, not Cork City because of our situation at the time :cool:

fixed: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=48100&seasonID=138

Pure Cork wrote: »

George O'Callaghan moved to Tranmere Rovers back in July.

fixed, I had his games, but still had his team as Cork: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/teamDetails.xquery?teamID=2598

Pure Cork wrote: »

Dominic Foley at Gent

added, but I won't be including his games this season: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=8982&seasonID=138

Pure Cork wrote: »

It's Dave Mooney, not David Mooney

didn't know that, fixed: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=49791

Pure Cork wrote: »

Stephen O'Donnell is currently at Bohs

done: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=41514

Pure Cork wrote: »

Robbie Doyle - Sporting Fingal

double done: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=46063

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Tuesday, 21st October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Ben Burgess scored his fourth of the season
After coming off the bench at the weekend, Gary Doherty completed 90 minutes for Norwich for the first time this season
This was also the time this season that Wes Hoolahan started a game that Norwich went on to win
Kevin Doyle scored his ninth of the season, in just 12 starts. Strangely, every one of those goals has been scored at the Madejski
JJ O'Toole notched his sixth of the campaign so far, almost a month to the day since his last goal
Lee Frecklington scored his first goal away from home, the previous two came Sincil Bank
Cillian Sheridan came off the bench for the third time this season, every one of these appearances has been away from Celtic Park. He's never even been in a matchday XVI for the Bhoys

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Wednesday, 22 October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
After scoring a penalty at the weekend, Scott Davies missed one for Aldershot against Chesterfield
Robbie Keane scored his second of the season, both coming in the Champions League

Added Plymouth's Damien McCrory (currently on loan at Port Vale) to the site: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=50093
If anyone has his correct date of birth, could you let me know, and I'll correct the information on the site?

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 25th October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-10-25
Ben Burgess scored his second in two games
Andy Reid was a late substitute for Sunderland. Trapattoni has been criticised for not playing Reid. Roy Keane has only started him in one league game since August
In an eventful game at Home Park, Owen Garvan scored twice and was booked, while David Norris was sent off
Clinton Morrison scored his third of the season, his first in the league
Thomas Butler scored his first of the season
Mark Yeates scored his second brace, both came at home
Congratulations to Cillian Sheridan on scoring his first goal in his first start for Celtic
Congratulations to Roy O'Donovan on scoring his first goal in British football in his 26th game across the water

Irish Abroad for Sunday, 26th October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Glen Whelan made his first league appearance since the opening day of the season
Robbie Keane was substituted for the tenth time this season, he's completed 90 minutes only twice this season

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Tuesday, 28th October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-10-28
Owen Garvan scored his third goal in two games, Ipswich have not lost a game in which he's scored
After opening his league account at the weekend, Clinton Morrison scored his second goal in two games
After scoring just once this season so far, John O'Flynn notched two in less than half an hour against Shrewsbury

Irish Abroad for Wednesday, 29th October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Kevin Kilbane started his first game for Wigan in more than a month
Aiden McGeady scored his second of the season

Pure Cork

David Meyler - Sunderland

tetsujin1979 wrote: »

I thought about including him, but the site really only caters to players in the senior team of each club, and I really don't see him playing for Sunderland this season. If he does make an appearance, I'll add him in

Is it time to add him in? He was on the bench against Chelsea this weekend, and after that result he could be starting next week

tetsujin1979

Pure Cork wrote: »

Is it time to add him in? He was on the bench against Chelsea this weekend, and after that result he could be starting next week

Cheers, I didn't know that, he's been added here: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/playerDetails.xquery?playerID=50157

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 1st November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-11-01
Keith Andrews scored his first goal in the Premiership
Kevin Doyle scored his first goals of the season away from the Madjeski stadium, and now has 11 goals in 15 starts
Ben Burgess scored his third goal in four games
Mark Yeates scored his third goal in two games, and his seventh in 17 starts
Similarly, John O'Flynn scored his third in two games for Barnet
Incidentally, this was the third highest goals scored by Irish players in a single day this season with 14 goals. Second were the games on 30 August 2008 with 15 goals, and there were more goals scored by Irish players on the 4th October 2008 than any other day this season so far with 18

Irish Abroad for Sunday, 2nd November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Richard Dunne scored his second OG of the season

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Monday, 3rd November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Clinton Morrison scored his third goal in three games, seems to be on another scoring streak

Irish Abroad Statistics for October 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/october.xquery
Strangely enough, Owen Garvan was the top goalscorer, finding the net three times
Paddy McCarthy picked up the most bookings, the Palace player was shown the yellow card three times
Aiden McGeady and Jon Macken were the leading talismans (talismen??) for their teams. Each time they scored, their teams went on to win

podge018

Why does only seem to cover players in England and Scotland?

Dub13

podge018 wrote: »

Why does only seem to cover players in England and Scotland?

Because there are not many Irish players playing outside the UK.

podge018

Well then call it Irish in England and Scotland.

Dub13

podge018 wrote: »

Well then call it Irish in England and Scotland.

I have nothing to do with it,Boards has nothing to do with it the lad who runs it can call it what he likes.IMO its a nice little site who cares what its called.

tetsujin1979

podge018 wrote: »

Well then call it Irish in England and Scotland.

nope, the name hasn't changed since it started as a series of posts on foot.ie and soccercentral

Dub13 wrote: »

I have nothing to do with it,Boards has nothing to do with it the lad who runs it can call it what he likes.IMO its a nice little site who cares what its called.

Thanks, the support is appreciated

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Tuesday, 4th November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery?seasonID=138&date=2008-11-04
Robbie Keane was substituted again for Liverpool, he's only completed two of the 14 games he's started for the Reds
Willo Flood started the 3-3 draw against Rangers. It's the third draw away from home for the Irishman, the most likely outcome of any result away from home when he starts
If Kevin Thornton starts the next game for Brighton, it'll be the most consecutive games he's started all season, after starting twice in a row 2 times, both for Brighton
Graham Coughlan netted his third of the season

Irish Abroad for Wednesday, 5th November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
If Aiden McGeady had played against Manchester United, there would have been 4 Irish players in the same Champions League game for the first time in some time
There were five in the previous game against Manchester United, but only Aiden McGeady, John O'Shea and Cillian Sheridan played, Darron Gibson and Darren O'Dea were unused substitutes.

tetsujin1979

Irish Abroad for Saturday, 8th November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/dateDetails.xquery
Despite scoring his first two Premiership goals for Liverpool, Robbie Keane was substituted again, he has not completed a game for the Reds in almost two months
Andy Reid started his first Premiership game for Sunderland in almost a month. Unfortunately he still has yet to start a home win for the Black Cats, despite winning both away games where he started
In the same game, Daryl Murphy made only his fifth start of the season
David Norris opened his account for the season
Kevin Doyle scored his third brace of the season, he now has an astonishing 13 goals in 16 games
James McCarthy scored his second of the season