Mercedes 450SEL 6.9

Anan1

Has anyone here owned or driven one? Particularly the one that Deerpark seem to have had for the past few years?

Anan1

Nobody? I'm thinking of taking a spin over tomorrow.

mike65

Which one?

Mike

Anan1

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=942095&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Mercedes%2DBenz%20450%20SEL%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=7031469&CFTOKEN=30722496

Dades

It is a beauty.

Money not an object - you'd have to have it.

mike65

Thought it would be that one or the the Japanese 280 import.

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=1107538&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Mercedes%2DBenz%20280%2DSE%2C%20Year%3A%201976%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=97197&CFTOKEN=76411992

The 6.9 M100 engine is a specialist bit of kit. I'd do a bit of checking regarding maintainence and parts. Some of the lads here can point you at a Merc mechanic or two.

Mike

Anan1

I'm kind of thinking they might do some deal involving the Pagoda. The 450 is €13k on UK plates, it was first registered in April 1979. Does anyone reckon the 30-year rule might change before April next?

unkel

Anan1 wrote: »

Has anyone here owned or driven one?

PM Claude Lelouch

Anan1 wrote: »

Does anyone reckon the 30-year rule might change before April next?

It was rumoured here by someone who said he knew someone who was in the know because he was around cabinet circles or something. Can't find it now. With the present economic downturn, surely the government have bigger fish to fry between now and April next?

mike65

Don't put it past them to sneak it though as everyones jaws are slackened as they see the rest of the budget.

Mike.

carchaeologist

mike65 wrote: »

Don't put it past them to sneak it though as everyones jaws are slackened as they see the rest of the budget.

Mike.

If they do im going on a rampage in leinster house!!!:D

L-M

Jesus that car looks the business. I never knew they made such a thing. I'm guessing these are some what of a rarity lol... Off to google for a bit of researching

unkel

carchaeologist wrote: »

If they do im going on a rampage in leinster house!!!:D

My thoughts were a lot less pure than that

Blue850

unkel wrote: »

PM Claude Lelouch

He filmed this using a 6.9

MercMan Ben

Blue850 wrote: »

He filmed this using a 6.9

Actually this was a Ferarri. The film was made by a crazy Frenchman Claude Lelouche, driving with vmax 140mph through Paris at 4 o'clock in the morning in 1976. He had a few friends at dangerous junctions to warn him if there was a car comming. Communication failed at one junction and almost desaster happened. He made it through the center of Paris in less then 10 minutes, which would be impossible today :-)))

Max_Damage

MercMan Ben wrote: »

Actually this was a Ferarri. The film was made by a crazy Frenchman Claude Lelouche, driving with vmax 140mph through Paris at 4 o'clock in the morning in 1976. He had a few friends at dangerous junctions to warn him if there was a car comming. Communication failed at one junction and almost desaster happened. He made it through the center of Paris in less then 10 minutes, which would be impossible today :-)))

It was actually a 6.9, but they dubbed the sound of a Ferrari into it afterwards.

mike65

Ah people still think its a Ferrari! Cute!

/drags out that clip from youtube showing the truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHn5Q15kaIA

Anan1 better get back to us.

Mike.

Anan1

I had planned on going in to see it and show the guy the Pagoda on Saturday, rang him in the morning and he said he'd call me back in a few minutes. Nothing since, i'm afraid.

mike65

Typical, and these guys run a garage?

Mike.

Anan1

Went out and drove it today. It's clearly not been used much recently. As you'd imagine, though, there's something very likeable about this car. He's going to give me a buzz back about having someone who knows their stuff have a look at the pagoda.

mike65

Muddy gear changes? No brakes? squishy tyres? or just a layer of dust?

Mike.

Anan1

It could definitely do with new tyres, suspension seemed a little slow to rise, brakes, engine & transmission seemed (to my uneducated senses) fine. I'd really have to have it thoroughly checked out though. Paint & interior are very good to excellent.

unkel

Thanks Mike for the link. Couldn't resist watching that again

Keep us updated, Anan1!

Blue850

Heres another, what a waste
Irish 6.9

MercMan Ben

mike65 wrote: »

Ah people still think its a Ferrari! Cute!

/drags out that clip from youtube showing the truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHn5Q15kaIA

Anan1 better get back to us.

Mike.

I had no idea - cool... I've learned something new today :-)

Max_Damage

Blue850 wrote: »

Heres another, what a waste
Irish 6.9

You can find 6.9's in the UK (and even America) for less than that and in better condition.

i.e. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1979-MERCEDES-450-SEL-6-9-AUTO-SILVER_W0QQitemZ160270339399QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160270339399&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

Capri

Anan1 - Deerpark Motors should be called (VERY) DEAR PARK(ED) MOTORS :P. , it might be a nice 6.9 but check out Mercedes Enthuiast magazine ( Easons or Reads shops ) for UK ones that'll give you an idea of it's real value, not Rip-off Republic prices. The W116 had a tendency to rust also.

Check this pan-european sales site as well -

http://eng.autoscout24.com/

then hit 'Mercedes' and '450' to get the 6.9


Alo Kavanagh Mercedes in Sandyford have a good stores ( Ken's the man there ), and Otto /GSF do routine parts

carchaeologist

Capri wrote: »

Anan1 - Deerpark Motors should be called (VERY) DEAR PARK(ED) MOTORS :P.

Haha,classic!!

Capri

That 1979 MERCEDES 450 SEL 6.9 AUTO SILVER for £1,625 would be worth a punt. I've an 00 E430 now, saw them advertised here for €18k. UK price €7k + taxes of €3k here, eventually saw one in the Indo for €9k in Tipp. so lashed down a bought it. Buy as cheap as you can because at least you're not expecting a miracle, but you won't get a car full of Isopon, and you've a few €'s for repairs !

Here's another 'Battlecruiser' on Carzone - http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/ click 'Chevrolet' , then 'Impala' ( 6.6L for €9k )

Anan1

Hi Capri - Not sure whether you noticed, but Deerpark's car is asking €13,000 on UK plates. There are some nice looking cars on autoscout24, but all are LHD. Impalas are out, LHD and no brakes.

Capri

Not sure whether you noticed, but Deerpark's car is asking €13,000 on UK plates

Prob. paid €3k for it over there, drove it back here and parked it until he makes €10 on it ????

For €13k you could have a W220 2000 S500 LWB from CityWest cars - http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/S-500/LWB-nct/230971/

or a W140 93 S600L V12 for €7.5k http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/S-600/AMAZING-CAR/1104742/

I'd love to have the time/ money to take care of a 450 SEL 6.9, but a daily driver is more important to me than something that might fall apart through lack of driving ?

unkel

Capri wrote: »

Here's another 'Battlecruiser'

Bloody hell. Both have a V8 petrol engine. That's a good thing. But it's about the only thing those two cars have in common.

unkel

Capri wrote: »

For €13k you could have a W220 2000 S500 LWB from CityWest cars - http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/S-500/LWB-nct/230971/

Good find. That's a hell of a lot less than asking prices used to be until recently.

That said, most blokes I've met in this country seem to get extremely stressed out with the thought of having to pay €1.5k in motor tax. Almost like an allergic reaction. At the same time, they don't seem worried about losing a multiple of that through depreciation. I'm ranting now though, sorry

Capri

That's a hell of a lot less than asking prices used to be until recently

I KNOW ! I have a 99 S320 for sale, I WAS looking €12k, then 10k, now I'm at 9k !!!
Thing is, you ARE getting a lot of car for that money, and would you rather pay €500 / yr for a Mondeo, or €1.300 / yr for a Merc that'll outlast the Mondeo - never mind the status

Anan1

Capri wrote: »

Prob. paid €3k for it over there, drove it back here and parked it until he makes €10 on it ?????

Have you been following the prices of 6.9s in the UK?

Capri wrote: »

For €13k you could have a W220 2000 S500 LWB from CityWest cars - http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/S-500/LWB-nct/230971/

or a W140 93 S600L V12 for €7.5k http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Mercedes-Benz/S-600/AMAZING-CAR/1104742/

Neither of which interests me, if I wanted €1,500pa road tax i'd buy a W126.

Capri wrote: »

I'd love to have the time/ money to take care of a 450 SEL 6.9, but a daily driver is more important to me than something that might fall apart through lack of driving ?

This will be a daily driver.