Time to do away with postcount?

IvaBigWun

It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

Quality

whats the rep system...?

Fajitas!

Rep systems are even worse than postcounts from what I've seen. It leads a circle jerk of +'s.

I don't care all that much for postcount, if it's there, it's there, if not, it's not

pvt.joker

What would sherifu do without it that is the question!

Fajitas!

Quality wrote: »

whats the rep system...?

You give another member positive or negative points depending if you agree with him/her or like him/her...

Quality

Fajitas! wrote: »

You give another member positive or negative points depending if you agree with him/her or like him/her...

Sounds like a bad idea...
Sure we all know who the muppets are anyway:)

IvaBigWun

pvt.joker wrote: »

What would sherifu do without it that is the question!

I have a theory he's WWM reincarnate tbh

WHERE did all those posts come from so fast?!



I love ya really Sherifu

Quality

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

Why does it bother you OP?

Beruthiel

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder?

I find it useful at times.

Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

That makes no sense, why bring it back?
It was abused and turned into a joke.

KnifeWRENCH

I don't see why it should be gotten rid of. Doesn't do any harm.
If posts in TCN counted, mine would be a lot lot higher!

Chong

I think turning post counts off would be good, there is too much people around here that live and die by their postcounts.

IvaBigWun

Quality wrote: »

Why does it bother you OP?

It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction

It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.

Fajitas!

Beruthiel wrote: »

I find it useful at times.

Indeed.

Eg: If someone shows up with 2 posts, all spam, they're a blatant spammer/spambot. Ban & bin.

Chong

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction

It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.

+1

IvaBigWun

Beruthiel wrote: »

I find it useful at times.

Make it viewable to Mods only then. Gobsh!tes with 10,000 posts will be given the benefit of the doubt in some cases whereas a newbie with just 3 posts who registered just to stir (deservedly) deserves a ban.

Anti

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

Oh hell no. Not untill i hit 8k anyway

But on a serious note, all the forums i frequent have a post count. The rep system is a load of bollocks tbh and +1 to the circle jerk.

I do believe VB has an option allowing users with the following option:

1. To show or hide post count.
2. To see others post counts or not.

Big_Mac

No chance. I like the postcount and knowing how many posts i have to my name here and also how many posts other people that you are talking to have. Why would I want to lose that?

BigglesMcGee

Imagine hacking the boards DB and setting everyones posts back to zero.
The sh!tstorm would be hilarious

Sure if you got rid of the post count you'ld never be able to tell the people who actually dont have to work all day.

Steve

IvaBigWun wrote: »

I have a theory he's WWM reincarnate tbh

WHERE did all those posts come from so fast?!



I love ya really Sherifu

purple monkey dishwasher.

:pac:

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Make it viewable to Mods only then. Gobsh!tes with 10,000 posts will be given the benefit of the doubt in some cases whereas a newbie with just 3 posts who registered just to stir (deservedly) deserves a ban.

It also affects how I would answer a poster who may be new to boards and have a genuine question, or, may be an old hand and is taking the piss.
Don't say you can go on join date as there are plenty of accounts that are years old with only a handful of posts - and so are still inexperienced in the ways of boards.

5starpool

BigglesMcGee wrote: »

Imagine hacking the boards DB and setting everyones posts back to zero.
The sh!tstorm would be hilarious

Sure if you got rid of the post count you'ld never be able to tell the people who actually dont have to work all day.

Or like the thing that happened last year or the year before when post counts went beserk. Peple who had 10k, showed at 2k, people who had 50 showed as 3k, etc etc. It got sorted after a day or so but some people got a tad upset at it and was quite funny.

Dragan

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction

It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.

People will always post for their own reasons. I can't actually remember that last time outside of Mod duties that i considered someones post count.

If someone is driven by post count and ends up at 20 posts a day of pure ****e its not hard to just ignore their posts.

IvaBigWun

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction

It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.

Decent point actually but I still think it does a bit of good. For example, Feedback threads. The mods & smods can know off the bat that the OP is an experienced poster on here rather then a troll or someone that is just confused or someone that isn't fully used to Boards.

Adam

I'd say a compromise here is necessary. It's handy to see/know when you're talking to somebody on the forums, I think anyway. But maybe it's a little bit too specific. I think an implementation of "Status" would be better. e.g.

Status: Newbie = <50 posts
Status: Still Fresh = 50-500 posts
Status: Established = 500 - 1000 posts
Status: Established Troll = 1000 - 5000 posts
Status: Postcount ++ = 5000 - 10,000 posts
Status: Sherifu = 10,000+ posts
Status: Bow Down = 20,000+ posts

This way, while it's still relatively early in the accounts life, people have a fair idea of how many posts the user has, but after that it becomes less relevant.

Cabaal

Fajitas! wrote: »

Indeed.

Eg: If someone shows up with 2 posts, all spam, they're a blatant spammer/spambot. Ban & bin.

agree, kleep postcounts...or only let mod & admins see them and don't bring in a rep system as it'll turn into another joke

Dades

I'm partial to my e-penis thanks!

Sure, I've seen bigger. But it's what you do with 'em that counts.

Steve

Mirror wrote: »

I'd say a compromise here is necessary. It's handy to see/know when you're talking to somebody on the forums, I think anyway. But maybe it's a little bit too specific. I think an implementation of "Status" would be better. e.g.

This way, while it's still relatively early in the accounts life, people have a fair idea of how many posts the user has, but after that it becomes less relevant.

Not really fair - I've seen users who joined a few months ago rack up a couple of thousand posts - mainly in 'chat' threads such as yore ma's or the lair. A lot of them would have little experience outside of these areas and some have even been pulled up recently for 'chatting' in threads in other fora.

jhegarty

How about a system of :

1 - 10 posts
10 - 100 posts
more than 100 posts


that way can you spot the spammer , but once a person has passed 100 without been banned can you assume they are here for legitimate reasons (pighead excluded of course), and no need to count after that..

plus I presume you could keep in on for mods to view...

Adam

SteveC wrote: »

Not really fair - I've seen users who joined a few months ago rack up a couple of thousand posts - mainly in 'chat' threads such as yore ma's or the lair. A lot of them would have little experience outside of these areas and some have even been pulled up recently for 'chatting' in threads in other fora.

So what? Whether they have a status that's indicative of their post count or a literal post count, they're still going to get given out to. I don't see your point at all.

Rabies

I use a mixture of join date and post count when looking at user with my mod hat on.
The rep system was fun at the start, but got abused. The new 'Thanks' option seems to work much better.

dr.bollocko

Jaysus no!
I just hit the big 3-0.
Suddenly people are starting to sit up and take notice.
Mods are looking at my profile.
People want me on their friends list.
I'm a big shot now Ivor.
Dont take that away from me.
Without it I'm nothing but a Mengele passing in the night.

kaimera

Have it optional.

Show/Hide own postcount.
Show/Hide other users postcounts.

A spammer is a spammer regardless of postcount..

arybvtcw0eolkf

I think post count is just one of the small things which enocourages people to stick around and not act the idiot.

A few posts, and tbh I could careless about acting the bollox and getting a ban. But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.

Whispered

I got given out to for trying to help someone with a low post count recently. Get rid of it and let people look after themselves!

Adam

Mairt wrote: »

I think post count is just one of the small things which enocourages people to stick around and not act the idiot.

A few posts, and tbh I could careless about acting the bollox and getting a ban. But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.

I agree with this one hundred percent. You feel more responsible to the community in a sense, and are more inclined to maintain your own reputation (be that bad or good) when your postcount is on show.

Just like in any community, on the internet or otherwise, the more you contribute to it, the more you expect a certain degree of respect. In a similar manner, should we do away with the perks that come with being a subscriber? Subscribers are usually instantly noticable with the larger avatars and custom tag lines, and are deserved of these things for their contribution. While many people would say they don't really care about their post count, I would guess that regular users that have been around a number of years appreciate it's presence to a degree.

Having said all that, I think the bottom line is why get rid of it? It does no harm.

Steve

Mirror wrote: »

I don't see your point at all.

Sorry, I didn't really think that one through....:o

Mairt wrote: »

A few posts, and tbh I could careless about acting the bollox and getting a ban. But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.

Well said, I agree 100% with that.

Call it an e-penis or whatever, a decent postcount in most cases is the result of a few years interaction on the site. As trolls are swiftly dealt with on boards, a reasonable post count is saying that the user has actually contributed to the community.

Karl Hungus

kaimera wrote: »

Have it optional.

Show/Hide own postcount.
Show/Hide other users postcounts.

A spammer is a spammer regardless of postcount..

Sense tbh.

Maximilian

Hmm. If "post count" was done away with but "join date" stayed, people would assume I have 35k posts and therefore also an enormous e-peen.

+1. Ban the postcount.

cornbb

From a mod point of view, postcount is a handy thing to have. If someone is acting the mick and they've been around for a while/have a high postcount, I'd be more inclined to give them leeway. If someone appears to be shilling/spamming/breaking rules, its handy to know whether they're newly signed up.

Sherifu

Mairt wrote: »

But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.

Members like Mordeth.

Karl Hungus

Sherifu wrote: »

Members hate Mordeth.

Fixed it for you.

Hobbes

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

Postcount is meaningless. Seriously. Unless your a mod and need to check if it is a rereg or a sock puppet.

Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

Hell no. Both [wiki]Karma[/wiki] and [wiki]Reputation[/wiki] were flawed.

Terry

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Jaysus no!
I just hit the big 3-0.
Suddenly people are starting to sit up and take notice.
Mods are looking at my profile.
People want me on their friends list.
I'm a big shot now Ivor.
Dont take that away from me.
Without it I'm nothing but a Mengele passing in the night.

It's time to worry when mods are looking at your profile.

dr.bollocko

Terry wrote: »

It's time to worry when mods are looking at your profile.

Buddy it's time to worry when I'm looking at your profile.

Phoenix Rising

On my site we took away post count and the join date. All hell broke loose. If it ain't broke don't tinker with it

Kold

Good outweighs the bad tbh. I find it interesting to see that someone's second post is a blatant troll and also the 08 regs with 2k+ posts who obviously can't have a single thought without running onto boards to post it.

Anyone who takes their postcount seriously needs a hobby tbh.

You are not your job, you are not how much money you have in the bank, not the car you drive, not the contents of your wallet. You are not your f**kin postcount. We are the all-singing, postcount trolls of boards.




Postcount + 1:cool::P

AlmightyCushion

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone who takes their postcount seriously needs a hobby tbh.

Does postcount whoring count as a hobby?

AlmightyCushion

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Does postcount whoring count as a hobby?

It does for some people. I consider boards my means to dodging work!

Adam

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone who takes their postcount seriously needs a hobby tbh.

You are not your job, you are not how much money you have in the bank, not the car you drive, not the contents of your wallet. You are not your f**kin postcount. We are the all-singing, postcount trolls of boards.




Postcount + 1:cool::P

And you are not Tyler Durden. Nobody can pull off that speech otherwise.

6th

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Does postcount whoring count as a hobby?

If it is then there should be a forum for it! :pac:

Overheal

Mirror wrote: »

I'd say a compromise here is necessary. It's handy to see/know when you're talking to somebody on the forums, I think anyway. But maybe it's a little bit too specific. I think an implementation of "Status" would be better. e.g.

Status: Newbie = <50 posts
Status: Still Fresh = 50-500 posts
Status: Established = 500 - 1000 posts
Status: Established Troll = 1000 - 5000 posts
Status: Postcount ++ = 5000 - 10,000 posts
Status: Sherifu = 10,000+ posts
Status: Bow Down = 20,000+ posts

This way, while it's still relatively early in the accounts life, people have a fair idea of how many posts the user has, but after that it becomes less relevant.

Thats not a compromise its opening the gates of Spam Hell.

I found personally I spent more time trying to get my post count up on forums that operated that way than I did contributing. Once you put rank and status on the number of posts somebody has, things get ****ed up.

For example Ber has posted a lot more than I have - she probably knows more than I do. And look she's been here X more years too. But at the same time DeV or Cloud will have been here even longer by a few years (at least, as I understand it) and would have less posts on mention than Beruthiel. That doesnt make Beruthiel more senior than them. In contrast I have more posts than Cloud, and I'm the 'newbie' as he has 10 years of seniority to my 2.

If anything my postcount stands up there, high and proud, saying "god, 6500 posts in 2 years? **** sake Overheal get a girlfriend" :pac: *looks at Cushion's count and giggles*