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Time to do away with postcount?

  • 31-07-2008 1:40pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭


    It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

    Maybe bring back the rep system instead?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    whats the rep system...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Rep systems are even worse than postcounts from what I've seen. It leads a circle jerk of +'s.

    I don't care all that much for postcount, if it's there, it's there, if not, it's not :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    What would sherifu do without it that is the question! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Quality wrote: »
    whats the rep system...?

    You give another member positive or negative points depending if you agree with him/her or like him/her...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    You give another member positive or negative points depending if you agree with him/her or like him/her...


    Sounds like a bad idea...
    Sure we all know who the muppets are anyway:)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    pvt.joker wrote: »
    What would sherifu do without it that is the question! :p

    I have a theory he's WWM reincarnate tbh :)

    WHERE did all those posts come from so fast?!



    I love ya really Sherifu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

    Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

    Why does it bother you OP?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder?

    I find it useful at times.
    Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

    That makes no sense, why bring it back?
    It was abused and turned into a joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    I don't see why it should be gotten rid of. Doesn't do any harm.
    If posts in TCN counted, mine would be a lot lot higher! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    I think turning post counts off would be good, there is too much people around here that live and die by their postcounts.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Quality wrote: »
    Why does it bother you OP?

    It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction :)

    It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I find it useful at times.

    Indeed.

    Eg: If someone shows up with 2 posts, all spam, they're a blatant spammer/spambot. Ban & bin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction :)

    It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.
    +1


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I find it useful at times.

    Make it viewable to Mods only then. Gobsh!tes with 10,000 posts will be given the benefit of the doubt in some cases whereas a newbie with just 3 posts who registered just to stir (deservedly) deserves a ban.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

    Maybe bring back the rep system instead?


    Oh hell no. Not untill i hit 8k anyway ;)

    But on a serious note, all the forums i frequent have a post count. The rep system is a load of bollocks tbh and +1 to the circle jerk.

    I do believe VB has an option allowing users with the following option:

    1. To show or hide post count.
    2. To see others post counts or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Big_Mac


    No chance. I like the postcount and knowing how many posts i have to my name here and also how many posts other people that you are talking to have. Why would I want to lose that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭BigglesMcGee


    Imagine hacking the boards DB and setting everyones posts back to zero.
    The sh!tstorm would be hilarious :D

    Sure if you got rid of the post count you'ld never be able to tell the people who actually dont have to work all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    I have a theory he's WWM reincarnate tbh :)

    WHERE did all those posts come from so fast?!



    I love ya really Sherifu
    purple monkey dishwasher.

    :pac:
    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Make it viewable to Mods only then. Gobsh!tes with 10,000 posts will be given the benefit of the doubt in some cases whereas a newbie with just 3 posts who registered just to stir (deservedly) deserves a ban.

    It also affects how I would answer a poster who may be new to boards and have a genuine question, or, may be an old hand and is taking the piss.
    Don't say you can go on join date as there are plenty of accounts that are years old with only a handful of posts - and so are still inexperienced in the ways of boards.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,864 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Imagine hacking the boards DB and setting everyones posts back to zero.
    The sh!tstorm would be hilarious :D

    Sure if you got rid of the post count you'ld never be able to tell the people who actually dont have to work all day.

    Or like the thing that happened last year or the year before when post counts went beserk. Peple who had 10k, showed at 2k, people who had 50 showed as 3k, etc etc. It got sorted after a day or so but some people got a tad upset at it and was quite funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction :)

    It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.

    People will always post for their own reasons. I can't actually remember that last time outside of Mod duties that i considered someones post count.

    If someone is driven by post count and ends up at 20 posts a day of pure ****e its not hard to just ignore their posts.


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  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt bother me Quality. Racism bothers me. Bad drivers bother me. Irish weather bothers me. An internet forum is a distraction :)

    It is obvious, however, that some people are posting for the sake of posting to up their postcount. The overall quality then suffers.

    Decent point actually but I still think it does a bit of good. For example, Feedback threads. The mods & smods can know off the bat that the OP is an experienced poster on here rather then a troll or someone that is just confused or someone that isn't fully used to Boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    I'd say a compromise here is necessary. It's handy to see/know when you're talking to somebody on the forums, I think anyway. But maybe it's a little bit too specific. I think an implementation of "Status" would be better. e.g.

    Status: Newbie = <50 posts
    Status: Still Fresh = 50-500 posts
    Status: Established = 500 - 1000 posts
    Status: Established Troll = 1000 - 5000 posts
    Status: Postcount ++ = 5000 - 10,000 posts
    Status: Sherifu = 10,000+ posts
    Status: Bow Down = 20,000+ posts

    This way, while it's still relatively early in the accounts life, people have a fair idea of how many posts the user has, but after that it becomes less relevant.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,552 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    Indeed.

    Eg: If someone shows up with 2 posts, all spam, they're a blatant spammer/spambot. Ban & bin.

    agree, kleep postcounts...or only let mod & admins see them and don't bring in a rep system as it'll turn into another joke


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    I'm partial to my e-penis thanks!

    Sure, I've seen bigger. But it's what you do with 'em that counts. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Mirror wrote: »
    I'd say a compromise here is necessary. It's handy to see/know when you're talking to somebody on the forums, I think anyway. But maybe it's a little bit too specific. I think an implementation of "Status" would be better. e.g.

    This way, while it's still relatively early in the accounts life, people have a fair idea of how many posts the user has, but after that it becomes less relevant.

    Not really fair - I've seen users who joined a few months ago rack up a couple of thousand posts - mainly in 'chat' threads such as yore ma's or the lair. A lot of them would have little experience outside of these areas and some have even been pulled up recently for 'chatting' in threads in other fora.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    How about a system of :

    1 - 10 posts
    10 - 100 posts
    more than 100 posts


    that way can you spot the spammer , but once a person has passed 100 without been banned can you assume they are here for legitimate reasons (pighead excluded of course), and no need to count after that..

    plus I presume you could keep in on for mods to view...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    SteveC wrote: »
    Not really fair - I've seen users who joined a few months ago rack up a couple of thousand posts - mainly in 'chat' threads such as yore ma's or the lair. A lot of them would have little experience outside of these areas and some have even been pulled up recently for 'chatting' in threads in other fora.
    So what? Whether they have a status that's indicative of their post count or a literal post count, they're still going to get given out to. I don't see your point at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I use a mixture of join date and post count when looking at user with my mod hat on.
    The rep system was fun at the start, but got abused. The new 'Thanks' option seems to work much better.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Jaysus no!
    I just hit the big 3-0.
    Suddenly people are starting to sit up and take notice.
    Mods are looking at my profile.
    People want me on their friends list.
    I'm a big shot now Ivor.
    Dont take that away from me.
    Without it I'm nothing but a Mengele passing in the night.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Have it optional.

    Show/Hide own postcount.
    Show/Hide other users postcounts.

    A spammer is a spammer regardless of postcount..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I think post count is just one of the small things which enocourages people to stick around and not act the idiot.

    A few posts, and tbh I could careless about acting the bollox and getting a ban. But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    I got given out to for trying to help someone with a low post count recently. :( Get rid of it and let people look after themselves!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Mairt wrote: »
    I think post count is just one of the small things which enocourages people to stick around and not act the idiot.

    A few posts, and tbh I could careless about acting the bollox and getting a ban. But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.
    I agree with this one hundred percent. You feel more responsible to the community in a sense, and are more inclined to maintain your own reputation (be that bad or good) when your postcount is on show.

    Just like in any community, on the internet or otherwise, the more you contribute to it, the more you expect a certain degree of respect. In a similar manner, should we do away with the perks that come with being a subscriber? Subscribers are usually instantly noticable with the larger avatars and custom tag lines, and are deserved of these things for their contribution. While many people would say they don't really care about their post count, I would guess that regular users that have been around a number of years appreciate it's presence to a degree.

    Having said all that, I think the bottom line is why get rid of it? It does no harm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Mirror wrote: »
    I don't see your point at all.
    Sorry, I didn't really think that one through....:o
    Mairt wrote: »
    A few posts, and tbh I could careless about acting the bollox and getting a ban. But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.
    Well said, I agree 100% with that.

    Call it an e-penis or whatever, a decent postcount in most cases is the result of a few years interaction on the site. As trolls are swiftly dealt with on boards, a reasonable post count is saying that the user has actually contributed to the community.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    kaimera wrote: »
    Have it optional.

    Show/Hide own postcount.
    Show/Hide other users postcounts.

    A spammer is a spammer regardless of postcount..

    Sense tbh.


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  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Hmm. If "post count" was done away with but "join date" stayed, people would assume I have 35k posts and therefore also an enormous e-peen.

    +1. Ban the postcount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    From a mod point of view, postcount is a handy thing to have. If someone is acting the mick and they've been around for a while/have a high postcount, I'd be more inclined to give them leeway. If someone appears to be shilling/spamming/breaking rules, its handy to know whether they're newly signed up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Mairt wrote: »
    But work up to a few hundred or thousend and a member is inclined to act more mature and more inline with someone having a larger post count.
    Members like Mordeth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Members hate Mordeth.

    Fixed it for you. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    It doesnt seem to show up on a few other forums Ive seen. Is it really needed on Boards I wonder? Just putting it out there.

    Postcount is meaningless. Seriously. Unless your a mod and need to check if it is a rereg or a sock puppet.
    Maybe bring back the rep system instead?

    Hell no. Both [wiki]Karma[/wiki] and [wiki]Reputation[/wiki] were flawed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Jaysus no!
    I just hit the big 3-0.
    Suddenly people are starting to sit up and take notice.
    Mods are looking at my profile.
    People want me on their friends list.
    I'm a big shot now Ivor.
    Dont take that away from me.
    Without it I'm nothing but a Mengele passing in the night.
    It's time to worry when mods are looking at your profile.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Terry wrote: »
    It's time to worry when mods are looking at your profile.

    Buddy it's time to worry when I'm looking at your profile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 Phoenix Rising


    On my site we took away post count and the join date. All hell broke loose. If it ain't broke don't tinker with it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Good outweighs the bad tbh. I find it interesting to see that someone's second post is a blatant troll and also the 08 regs with 2k+ posts who obviously can't have a single thought without running onto boards to post it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone who takes their postcount seriously needs a hobby tbh.

    You are not your job, you are not how much money you have in the bank, not the car you drive, not the contents of your wallet. You are not your f**kin postcount. We are the all-singing, postcount trolls of boards.




    Postcount + 1:cool::P


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Anyone who takes their postcount seriously needs a hobby tbh.

    Does postcount whoring count as a hobby?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Does postcount whoring count as a hobby?

    It does for some people. I consider boards my means to dodging work!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    Anyone who takes their postcount seriously needs a hobby tbh.

    You are not your job, you are not how much money you have in the bank, not the car you drive, not the contents of your wallet. You are not your f**kin postcount. We are the all-singing, postcount trolls of boards.




    Postcount + 1:cool::P
    And you are not Tyler Durden. Nobody can pull off that speech otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Does postcount whoring count as a hobby?

    If it is then there should be a forum for it! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Mirror wrote: »
    I'd say a compromise here is necessary. It's handy to see/know when you're talking to somebody on the forums, I think anyway. But maybe it's a little bit too specific. I think an implementation of "Status" would be better. e.g.

    Status: Newbie = <50 posts
    Status: Still Fresh = 50-500 posts
    Status: Established = 500 - 1000 posts
    Status: Established Troll = 1000 - 5000 posts
    Status: Postcount ++ = 5000 - 10,000 posts
    Status: Sherifu = 10,000+ posts
    Status: Bow Down = 20,000+ posts

    This way, while it's still relatively early in the accounts life, people have a fair idea of how many posts the user has, but after that it becomes less relevant.
    Thats not a compromise its opening the gates of Spam Hell.

    I found personally I spent more time trying to get my post count up on forums that operated that way than I did contributing. Once you put rank and status on the number of posts somebody has, things get ****ed up.

    For example Ber has posted a lot more than I have - she probably knows more than I do. And look she's been here X more years too. But at the same time DeV or Cloud will have been here even longer by a few years (at least, as I understand it) and would have less posts on mention than Beruthiel. That doesnt make Beruthiel more senior than them. In contrast I have more posts than Cloud, and I'm the 'newbie' as he has 10 years of seniority to my 2.

    If anything my postcount stands up there, high and proud, saying "god, 6500 posts in 2 years? **** sake Overheal get a girlfriend" :pac: *looks at Cushion's count and giggles*


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