Who is "Vibe"

Noopti

There is some pretty awesome graffiti on "Moss St" in town, by some guy called Vibe.

There is one of Mickey Mouse in a GI uniform
A portrait of Gary Coleman
An awesome looking rib cage
A weird kind of pumpkin headed yolk on a horse

Anyone know who this person is? Or if they have more graffiti around the city?

(Sorry, I have no pics. I can bring my camera in tomorrow and take some though)

vibe666

er, before I start getting a knock on my door from the rozzers I'd just like to state for the record that it's not me okay.

(seriously, I'm crap at art)

Gaspode

Just some vandal. He'll grow out of it.

Noopti

Not looking for a debate on Graffiti: Art or Vandalism, thanks.

Degsy

Noopti wrote: »

Not looking for a debate on Graffiti: Art or Vandalism, thanks.

Well then sling your hook.
No,we dont know who you are or care.

Noopti

You don't care who I am? Fair enough, I wasn't asking if you did.

If you mean you don't care who the graffiti artist is, then you need to "sling your hook" as I wasn't asking if you care who he/she was. Just wondering if anybody out there has seen similar graffiti around or knows who the person is.

Ah, the joys of asking a simple question on boards.ie.......you might get maybe a couple of genuine responses, and others just looking to turn the thread on it's head for whatever reason. Good man Degsy.

Degsy

Noopti wrote: »

You don't care who I am? Fair enough, I wasn't asking if you did.

If you mean you don't care who the graffiti artist is, then you need to "sling your hook" as I wasn't asking if you care who he/she was. Just wondering if anybody out there has seen similar graffiti around or knows who the person is.

Ah, the joys of asking a simple question on boards.ie.......you might get maybe a couple of genuine responses, and others just looking to turn the thread on it's head for whatever reason. Good man Degsy.

What exactly were you expecting?Somebody to say "Ah yes,that'd be Amanda Huggenkiss from Nurney Gurney Park"??
Who gives a damn about people who spray paint on other people's property?All they're doing is making work for the city council,lowering property prices and behaving like cowardly <SNIP>.If you DO find out who this clown is,let me know and i'll paint his poxy house for him.

latenia

Isn't Moss St. derelict anyway? Degsy, please don't use the word 'we' when what you mean is 'I.'

Degsy

latenia wrote: »

Isn't Moss St. derelict anyway? Degsy, please don't use the word 'we' when what you mean is 'I.'

The whole street is derelict is it?So what better to improve its apearance than a knobhead apraying "give me some attention please" on the walls.

I'll think based on the hundreds of other posts on this subject you'll find i'm notr alone in my hatred for these clowns.

arybvtcw0eolkf

latenia wrote: »

Isn't Moss St. derelict anyway? Degsy, please don't use the word 'we' when what you mean is 'I.'

When I'm in agreement with him its 'we'.

Noopti

hat exactly were you expecting?Somebody to say "Ah yes,that'd be Amanda Huggenkiss from Nurney Gurney Park"??
Who gives a damn about people who spray paint on other people's property?All they're doing is making work for the city council,lowering property prices and behaving like cowardly ****.If you DO find out who this clown is,let me know and i'll paint his poxy house for him.

Good man. No I wasn't expecting a name and address. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the person, or if they are a known or well known graffiti artist.

So, totter along there now and maybe do a search for topics debating graffiti as an art form or vandalism. Your grievances have no place here.

Wishbone Ash

Noopti wrote: »

So, totter along there now

No back seat modding please Noopti.

Noopti wrote:

debating graffiti as an art form or vandalism

Regardless of one's view as to whether it's art or vandalism, it's illegal. In my opinion it should be treated the same way as defaecating on the street.

If you wish to debate it as an art form, please take it to the Art Forum.

Pen1987

If you wish to debate it as an art form, please take it to the Art Forum.

Wasa this directed at the OP or the other posters, Im unsure, anyway the whole point of the thread was not to debate it as an artform, no?

I think the OP was looking to veiw other peices done by the aforementioned graffitist named Vibe that were not on Moss St but phrased it badly...

Wishbone Ash

Pen1987 wrote: »

Wasa this directed at the OP or the other posters, Im unsure, anyway the whole point of the thread was not to debate it as an artform, no?

At the OP but I take the point.

Pen1987 wrote:

I think the OP was looking to veiw other peices done by the aforementioned graffitist named Vibe that were not on Moss St but phrased it badly...

Indeed he/she could have worded it in a more neutral way. Referring to vandalism which has blighted our city as "awesome" is bound to ruffle some feathers.

Degsy

In my experience these threads are usually started by the "artist" to get some positive feedback on thier "work".Hey,does anybody know such-and such..he's awesome.Usually it attracts a hostile reception from most people but there's usually a few trying to make the normal people sound like uncool,antiquated jeremiahs.Shilling,but for vandals.

Noopti

If you wish to debate it as an art form, please take it to the Art Forum.

I don't. I stated I didn't want a debate on it quite plainly, unfortunately quite a few people, including yourself didn't seem to realise this.

Indeed he/she could have worded it in a more neutral way. Referring to vandalism which has blighted our city as "awesome" is bound to ruffle some feathers.

Sorry, I didn't think referring to something someone drew as awesome would ruffle so many feathers. I wasn't referring to the fact that graffiti was awesome, I don't condone graffiti in anyway. I was referring to the actual drawing, it could have been drawn on a pigs arse and I would still think it is awesome. I would prefer it if the person had drawn it on a canvas, but hey, I'm not the police so I won't try and police the fact that they didn't. I was simply admiring the craftsmanship.

No back seat modding please Noopti.

Would you also like to warn Degsy, Wishbone. He did tell me to "Well then sling your hook", which means basically "Get Lost". Or is the fact that you share similar views on graffiti render him immune to such warnings. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I came here to ask a simple question, and I can guess it won't be answered. So feel free to lock, delete or otherwise cast this thread into a ravine somewhere. I will just have to try and find the answers I was looking for somewhere else......maybe Zombie Survival would give me more pertinent responses then I got here. :rolleyes:

all the stars

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

it should be treated the same way as defaecating on the street.

just remembering someone told me, if you are about to peee yourself, and are not in a position to get to a bathroom, you can actually just go wherever and nothing can be done to you.

I just remember that coz i was so random to put into conversation..

Dinter

all the stars wrote: »

just remembering someone told me, if you are about to peee yourself, and are not in a position to get to a bathroom, you can actually just go wherever and nothing can be done to you.

I just remember that coz i was so random to put into conversation..

Not sure about being allowed to pee. You might get away with it but on the other hand you can definitely be prosecuted for it.

You could have a crap though because it was thought that holding it in was bad for you. That too could be changed now though.

Degsy

all the stars wrote: »

I just remember that coz i was so random to put into conversation..

Que?

Wishbone Ash

Noopti wrote: »

Would you also like to warn Degsy, Wishbone. He did tell me to "Well then sling your hook", which means basically "Get Lost"

Point taken - (I wasn't sure what the phrase meant!).

Wishbone Ash

Degsy wrote: »

Well then sling your hook.

Degsy - no back seat modding please!

vibe666

if the artist (and no, it's still not me) had created his masterpiece on the wall of his own property or on canvas or something else he legally possessed (or had permission to use) then yes it would be art.

But he didn't and despite what he and you may think he has defaced someone elses property and that IS vandalism and he should be found and prosecuted.

If I thought your car would look better if I spray painted murals on it how would you feel?

Noopti

If I thought your car would look better if I spray painted murals on it how would you feel?

Of course I would be pi$$ed! Who wouldn't! But I am not trying to debate the fact (it is a fact) that it is vandalism........

Is there an exasperated version of a smiley around that I could use the next time someone starts preaching to me that it is vandalism? I know it is! I agree it is! But I didn't start the thread to debate it....

It is not the act I am saying is awesome. It is the finished article, from a visually aesthetic standpoint I am saying is awesome. Like I said before, it could be painted on anything.....I am not judging the legalities of the act, just the finished picture. Me saying I like the finished article is in no way saying I agree with the act of vandalism that was necessary to produce it.

Thanks Wishbone....

Dyr

cant' resist

g'em

Noopti wrote: »

There is some pretty awesome graffiti on "Moss St" in town, by some guy called Vibe.

There is one of Mickey Mouse in a GI uniform
A portrait of Gary Coleman
An awesome looking rib cage
A weird kind of pumpkin headed yolk on a horse

Anyone know who this person is? Or if they have more graffiti around the city?

(Sorry, I have no pics. I can bring my camera in tomorrow and take some though)

It sounds like it's Banksy. There's a thread about him on AH afaik.

Degsy

g'em wrote: »

It sounds like it's Banksy. There's a thread about him on AH afaik.

Banksy is english.These other halfwits would like to be like him but they aint.

g'em

Degsy wrote: »

Banksy is english.These other halfwits would like to be like him but they aint.

Ah ok. I remembered reading something in the paper about graffiti artists exhibiting in town (linkage) so thought this might be something to do with it. Perhaps not, I know little about street art and whatnot :pac:

Ass

Degsy wrote: »

Banksy is english.These other halfwits would like to be like him but they aint.

Did you see tha graffiti the OP is reffering to? If not (probably the answer you will respond with) then how do you know? Also, how do people in this thread know that the graffiti the OP is talking about wasn't done with permission?

The OP is asking a question about a specific piece of art on a wall that is in a public place and all posters have done is responded with tunnel vision when they saw the word Graffiti with all sorts of off topic arguments for and against Graffiti.

It's not too hard to respond to the OP. It's a simple yes or no infact.

On topic, There's a derelict building with no roof on it to the south of the Bleeding Horse on lower Camden St. There's a load of really amazing Graffiti on the second floor of that building, but I think you can only really see it if you're passing by on the top deck of a bus. I think one of the tags might be vibe, but I'm not sure.

Noopti

This is kind of a funny quote from the news article:

"We are not out to offend people and if people are unhappy that we have painted on their property, we will paint over it for free."

lol.......for free? Really? That's grand, I was worried you might charge me....

Edit: In reference to the above, I have no idea really if it was done with permission. Although it is quite possible as I'm pretty sure the building is derelict. Anyway, I will take my camera with me tomorrow so people can actually see what I am referring to.

IanCurtis

Noopti

You've been bullied by the 1,000+ posters on Boards.ie - welcome to the club!

Back on topic, could you put a few pics up - I'd love to see them, thanks!

Degsy

Ass Face wrote: »

Did you see tha graffiti the OP is reffering to? If not (probably the answer you will respond with) then how do you know? Also, how do people in this thread know that the graffiti the OP is talking about wasn't done with permission?

The OP is asking a question about a specific piece of art on a wall that is in a public place and all posters have done is responded with tunnel vision when they saw the word Graffiti with all sorts of off topic arguments for and against Graffiti.

It's not too hard to respond to the OP. It's a simple yes or no infact.

On topic, There's a derelict building with no roof on it to the south of the Bleeding Horse on lower Camden St. There's a load of really amazing Graffiti on the second floor of that building, but I think you can only really see it if you're passing by on the top deck of a bus. I think one of the tags might be vibe, but I'm not sure.

Thats like asking "does anybody know the name of the bloke who smashes windows in empty apartment blocks and empty houses?He's a legend and its great fun.After all the buildings are empty so no harm done."
Well let me tell you something,all property belongs to somebody and is going to cost somebody money to remove the damage.
AS i've said before,if these "artists" are so sure of the merits of thier "work" why dont they paint thier OWN property for everybody to see?
Those that actually own property ..ie absolutely none of them.

IanCurtis

Noopti wrote: »

Not looking for a debate on Graffiti: Art or Vandalism, thanks.

Deggsy - can you read these words?

Wishbone Ash

Degsy wrote: »

Thats like asking "does anybody know the name of the bloke who smashes windows in empty apartment blocks and empty houses?He's a legend and its great fun.After all the buildings are empty so no harm done."
Well let me tell you something,all property belongs to somebody and is going to cost somebody money to remove the damage.
AS i've said before,if these "artists" are so sure of the merits of thier "work" why dont they paint thier OWN property for everybody to see?
Those that actually own property ..ie absolutely none of them.

I think the point has been made Degsy - no need to labour it!

What's the difference between a mural and graffiti? Presumably a mural is done by, or with the permission of, the owner?

Ass

Degsy wrote: »

Thats like asking "does anybody know the name of the bloke who smashes windows in empty apartment blocks and empty houses?He's a legend and its great fun.After all the buildings are empty so no harm done."
Well let me tell you something,all property belongs to somebody and is going to cost somebody money to remove the damage.
AS i've said before,if these "artists" are so sure of the merits of thier "work" why dont they paint thier OWN property for everybody to see?
Those that actually own property ..ie absolutely none of them.

It's as if you've just ignored everything I've just said and carried on with your off topic non-sense.

I'd respond to your post pointing out how comparing an art form to burgalry is an utterly retarded point to make, but as the OP pointed out, it is not his wish for this thread to be turned in to a debate about Graffiti, so I'll respect that. My point was that you should do the same.

Noopti

Anyway guys....here are some pics:







It seems I actually got the names of the people who did these completely wrong!

Degsy

A load of crap thats what they are.Art-college kids gluing cut-outs onto walls.Utter,utter rubbish.

Noopti

You sure are a happy camper aren't you Degsy? :pac:
You've gone from a die hard anti-graffiti person to a connoisseur?

There are some cut-outs on the same wall (The Mickey Mouse one I referred to originally is a cut out, as I found out today), but I'm pretty sure the ones I photographed aren't. The last one of the horse is definitely not.....

Degsy

Noopti wrote: »

You sure are a happy camper aren't you Degsy? :pac:
You've gone from a die hard anti-graffiti person to a connoisseur?

There are some cut-outs on the same wall (The Mickey Mouse one I referred to originally is a cut out, as I found out today), but I'm pretty sure the ones I photographed aren't. The last one of the horse is definitely not.....

And you've gone from somebody talking-up some "awesome" street "art" to somebody who's been duped by a load of colour photocopies glued to a wall.Nice one Mr Trendy,you sure came out of that one lookin' good!!

g'em

Degsy wrote: »

And you've gone from somebody talking-up some "awesome" street "art" to somebody who's been duped by a load of colour photocopies glued to a wall.Nice one Mr Trendy,you sure came out of that one lookin' good!!

Your grumpyoldmanitis is getting worse by the day Degs

Personally I don't see it as art, but nether do I see it as vandalism. If you put the ... 'works' in a gallery they simply wouldn't belong, but on a street corner they look fairly innapropriate and often like they try too hard.

Either way though, I don't think they should be removed. I like spotting things like this and wondering what's behind it.

Degsy

g'em wrote: »

wondering what's behind it.

Dickheads with no girlfriends or jobs usually..:pac:

Noopti

Degsy wrote: »

And you've gone from somebody talking-up some "awesome" street "art" to somebody who's been duped by a load of colour photocopies glued to a wall.Nice one Mr Trendy,you sure came out of that one lookin' good!!

Oh please, just do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop it. You either haven't completed your 4th class reading exam yet, or are purposely ignoring everything I have said in this whole thread. Either way, you are making yourself look stupid and immature. Let me spell it out for you, nice and simply, so you can comprehend, okay?

1. I never talked up any street art. I simply asked if anyone knew who did the work. And expressed an opinion on it. That is not "talking it up".

2. Even if they aren't proper graffiti (which has yet to be proved), how have I been duped? I never said I was an aficionado, or an expert on "street art". Oh, but by your reckoning I could ask you a question on the thermodynamics of burning oil and if you get it wrong....I've duped you. Grow up.

3. What gave you the impression I came here to "look good". My God, you are really showing either your age or maturity. Maybe you took part in this discussion to look good, but I didn't. So don't apply your mentality to me please.

PS: Is "art" that is on the "street", not "street art"?

Dickheads with no girlfriends or jobs usually

Sound familiar Degsy?

Degsy

Noopti wrote: »

Oh please, just do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop it. You either haven't completed your 4th class reading exam yet, or are purposely ignoring everything I have said in this whole thread. Either way, you are making yourself look stupid and immature. Let me spell it out for you, nice and simply, so you can comprehend, okay?

1. I never talked up any street art. I simply asked if anyone knew who did the work. And expressed an opinion on it. That is not "talking it up".

2. Even if they aren't proper graffiti (which has yet to be proved), how have I been duped? I never said I was an aficionado, or an expert on "street art". Oh, but by your reckoning I could ask you a question on the thermodynamics of burning oil and if you get it wrong....I've duped you. Grow up.
3. What gave you the impression I came here to "look good". My God, you are really showing either your age or maturity. Maybe you took part in this discussion to look good, but I didn't. So don't apply your mentality to me please.

PS: Is "art" that is on the "street", not "street art"?



Sound familiar Degsy?

Lol.You thought it was graffiti and it wasnt,just a load of glued on cut-outs.
You've failed pal.
Oh yeah AND you never found out who the "Artist" was because nobody wanted to engage you at that level!!

Noopti

Lol.You thought it was graffiti and it wasnt,just a load of glued on cut-outs.
You've failed pal.
Oh yeah AND you never found out who the "Artist" was because nobody wanted to engage you at that level!!

Your right!! .....good man Degsy, you got me.

I cannot believe I thought it was graffiti! Man, what a fool I have been. I failed in my quest to portray myself as an expert in this field. You win.

Pen1987

Jesus Degsy youre really coming across a childish yet cantankorus fool in this thread. Just let it go and try to stay on topic.

I've never been a serious fan of 'street-art' or grafitti but its kind of nice to see unusual things poking out from nowhere as you walk around the city, better than looking at the blank wall of crumbling old brick IMPO. Saying that, I can relate to the annoyance of the owners of the property if they want to take it down.

This stuff wouldnt be the most interesting stuff I've seen really, at least its bright though which I like. Theres a good one of OB1Kanobi just off Harrington stuff, although its a total copy of the Banksy stuff thats being done in London.

lightening

Pen1987 wrote: »

although its a total copy of the Banksy stuff thats being done in London.

You just got there before me! It's not bad, I'd say there is a million Banksy copiers out there.

Graffiti can really bring out the red mist in people. Degsy might have had a bad incident with vandals. I know some people that have been plagued with it. Bad graffiti and tagging on private property can be the most annoying thing and it looks terrible.

Noopti

You just got there before me! It's not bad, I'd say there is a million Banksy copiers out there.

I have never really seen any of Banksy's work, but had a look online today. Some amazing images. I suppose they say imitation is the highest form of flattery!

Degsy

lightening wrote: »

Graffiti can really bring out the red mist in people. Degsy might have had a bad incident with vandals. I know some people that have been plagued with it.

Not as such,just that where i live there are LOTS of walls scawled over with this stuff and every so often the city council come and paint over it,only for it to happen again and again.
The assholes doing the graffiti have no concept of the fact that people may NOT want to see thier scrawlings everytime they go for a walk.
They also seem not to realise that this garbage costs time and money to remove.
Whether anybody thinks its "art" or not is a moot point.The fact is that its done without the owner's consent,by people who dont own property themselves,and for what?So some halfwit can have people talk about him on the internet?
The only effect this crap is having around my area is to devalue property,nobody wants to live in what looks like a ghetto.The SCUM that are doing it dont give a **** about anybody else's thoughts or feelings,they just vandalise as they please.
I've said this before..but WHY dont they paint thier OWN property..or thier parents house?????

Ass

I can't tell if Degsy is just trolling or not. I don't think anyone could actually be that ignorant.

Noopti

Ass Face wrote: »

I can't tell if Degsy is just trolling or not. I don't think anyone could actually be that ignorant.

...just trying to be "Mr Trendy" maybe?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Ass Face wrote: »

I can't tell if Degsy is just trolling or not. I don't think anyone could actually be that ignorant.

Why would he be trolling?.

He's stating fact.

Listen, I'm a property owner and my family run a business in Dublin City Centre and neither me 'nor my family want our property spray painted on as its costs us considerable time and money in the past.

Good posts D.

latenia

I think those particular paintings/cutouts/whatever are an improvement. As I said before, Moss St is almost completely derelict; I don't think the people who've bought up sites there just to sit and speculate while they crumble really give a f**k what happens to them.