AutoCAD tips + tricks

sinnerboy

Lets see if this takes off

Some handy ones I came across recently - for AutoCAD Lite - for areas / perimeters

Draw a polyline around the rooms / spaces

Using this lisp routine ( edit a new icon ) - click on the ployline and a text area / perimeter will insert

Boundary area (only)

^C^C_area;_object;\-mtext;\@300,0;Area $M=$(rtos,$(/,$(getvar,area),1000000),2,0) M2 ;;

Boundary area and perimeter

^C^C_area;_object;\-mtext;\@300,0;Area $M=$(rtos,$(/,$(getvar,area),1000000),2,0) M2 ;Perimeter $(rtos,$(/,$(getvar,perimeter),1000),2,0) M ;;

- this one is god for site layouts - roads footpaths - set up yout curves and lines on a temp layer - then click this command and it will create a continuous polyline to the shape you have outlined

Boundary
^C^C_boundary

sinnerboy

one of my favourites

this one purges , sets layer to 0 , exits model space into paper space , zooms extents , saves the drawing end executes open file - in a flash

^C^C-pu;all;;n;-pu;all;;n;-pu;all;;n;tm;0;ps;z;e;;SA;open;

sinnerboy

ever have to work on a drawing where the Z co ords are all jumbled up - and intersection snaps / fillet / polyline edit don't work because "lines are not co planar" - try this

^C^C_UCS;;_move _all;;0,0,1e99;;_move _all;;0,0,-1e99;;

sydthebeat

sinnerboy wrote: »

ever have to work on a drawing where the Z co ords are all jumbled up - and intersection snaps / fillet / polyline edit don't work because "lines are not co planar" - try this

^C^C_UCS;;_move _all;;0,0,1e99;;_move _all;;0,0,-1e99;;

GODSEND !!!!!!!!

How would i go about writing that into Autocad2005 ? I know nothing of lisp routines....

I hate importing surveyors dwgs and trying to get areas off it.....

Poor Uncle Tom

Put down the pencil.:D

Couldn't help it, sorry!

fredsherman

CHANGE command (precursor to properties dialogue box) changes elevs if you cant do lisp

change
type all in when asked to select
p for properties
e for elev
type in 0 and hit enter

sinnerboy

sydthebeat wrote: »

GODSEND !!!!!!!!

How would i go about writing that into Autocad2005 ? I know nothing of lisp routines....

I hate importing surveyors dwgs and trying to get areas off it.....

By creating a new icon . I use AutoCAD LT 2005 - full AutoCAD may vary

Easiest way is to right click on an existing icon . Scroll down the context menu to "Customise" . Dialogue box appears - Select "new" icon and drag it into an exiting toolbar . New icon will be blank . right click on it , select cutomise . Then select properties . cut and paste lisp into "macros associated with this button" . You dont have to but i suggest you create a symbol for the new icon .

Hope all that makes sense - it is actually easier done that said .

sinnerboy

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Put down the pencil.:D

Couldn't help it, sorry!

how "poor" are you UT . No money for a PC ?

Poor Uncle Tom

sinnerboy wrote: »

how "poor" are you UT . No money for a PC ?

All donations kindly accepted.:D

Slig

Number one tip for autocad

Buy Archicad 11:D

otherwise:
www.cben.net

heres some from my cadmonkey days:

when trimming or extending hold down shift to alternate
ie. when trimming lines holding down shift and clicking the line will extend the line.

convertpstyles
lets you use .ctb files instead of .stb files on newer versions of cad

shift + r-click
brings up snap settings

when drawing site boundaries use polylines. An option in the properties menu allows you to input a global width to make the line bolder

when using pspace. select 1 viewport and r-click. this extends the viewport to the printable limits of the sheet.

sydthebeat

sinnerboy wrote: »

By creating a new icon . I use AutoCAD LT 2005 - full AutoCAD may vary

Easiest way is to right click on an existing icon . Scroll down the context menu to "Customise" . Dialogue box appears - Select "new" icon and drag it into an exiting toolbar . New icon will be blank . right click on it , select cutomise . Then select properties . cut and paste lisp into "macros associated with this button" . You dont have to but i suggest you create a symbol for the new icon .

Hope all that makes sense - it is actually easier done that said .

just did that and it works a treat, i had to reconfig an existing button however as it wouldnt let me drag into an existing toolbar.

I tried it out on a survey i got in and it worked!! brilliant... thanks again SB...!!

Slig

Are there any programmes out there that allow you to print out from later autocad versions?
I have 2006 and Some of our consulatants have 2007/08. Just means that everytime I get a drawing I have to call them back and get them to save as an earlier version

sinnerboy

Slig wrote: »

Are there any programmes out there that allow you to print out from later autocad versions?
I have 2006 and Some of our consulatants have 2007/08. Just means that everytime I get a drawing I have to call them back and get them to save as an earlier version

Ask them nicely if the would simply set AutoCAD to always save back to an older version . We do here . We run 2005 + 2006 . Go to tools, options , then open and save tab . We set to save as 2000 to avoid problems when we send on .

Don't now how to solve question as you pose it though .

sydthebeat

sinnerboy wrote: »

Ask them nicely if the would simply set AutoCAD to always save back to an older version . We do here . We run 2005 + 2006 . Go to tools, options , then open and save tab . We set to save as 2000 to avoid problems when we send on .

Don't now how to solve question as you pose it though .

There are free dwg viewers out there that may open and print later versions. I dont use them but i know of their existance. Some contractors use them.

Ive never had an issue saving older for people. Generally when the drawing is being requested i ask them how they want it... and save accordingly.

PS i use 2005 all the time, yet i always save as 2004... just in case of a mad crash, i can use my old 2004 and continue working...

archtech

So what release of AutoCAD do you all use, I'm quiet surprised to see an number of posters using 2005/2006.

I'm using AutoCAD 2009 and have REVIT sitting beside me in the box. (haven't had a change yet to explore it).

With regards to saving drawings and forwarding them to third parties, I use the eTransmit command, which I've set to default to AutoCAD 2004. For those not familiar with the eTransmit command, it allows one include the relevant plot style, images, text fonts, specific line types etc associated with the particular drawing file, as well as the drawing itself. I hate when I get a drawings from a third parties and the relevant plot style isn't attached.

Poor Uncle Tom

Same, 2009 and Revit. When you get a chance jump into revit and explore, It'll change your life!

smashey

Some good tips there lads. Especially when it comes to using surveyor's drawings.

I'm using AutoCAD 2007 and can clearly remember starting out with Release 9. :eek::D

archtech

smashey wrote: »

I'm using AutoCAD 2007 and can clearly remember starting out with Release 9. :eek::D

can go be a few releases further there smashey to release 2.5 :eek:

Slig

archtech wrote: »

So what release of AutoCAD do you all use, I'm quiet surprised to see an number of posters using 2005/2006.

I'm using AutoCAD 2009 and have REVIT sitting beside me in the box. (haven't had a change yet to explore it).

With regards to saving drawings and forwarding them to third parties, I use the eTransmit command, which I've set to default to AutoCAD 2004. For those not familiar with the eTransmit command, it allows one include the relevant plot style, images, text fonts, specific line types etc associated with the particular drawing file, as well as the drawing itself. I hate when I get a drawings from a third parties and the relevant plot style isn't attached.

Ditto

I only use Autocad to print. I have just moved from Archicad 9 to Archicad 11. both programmes can open autocad drawings and edit them but Archicad 9 got confused if the autocad drawing was saved while in paperspace. 11 seems to work but I havent figured out how to add a .ctb file for printing.

Archicad is far superior to autocad for drawing in both 3d and 2d. Im not trying to sell the system, I grew up on autocad but if I have to edit anything in autocad now I just get frustrated, its so clunky and aqward.

smashey

archtech wrote: »

can go be a few releases further there smashey to release 2.5 :eek:

Release 9 could sometimes take 20 minutes to send to the plotter. I'd imagine 2.5 was an all night job.

Poor Uncle Tom

Started with the LT and then to R14. I remember if you didn't immerse yourself totally in the computer and abandon the board fully you would never convert yourself.

Does any one use the Digitiser? It seemed like a good system when I saw it demonstrated a few years ago.

Mellor

sinnerboy wrote: »

ever have to work on a drawing where the Z co ords are all jumbled up - and intersection snaps / fillet / polyline edit don't work because "lines are not co planar" - try this

^C^C_UCS;;_move _all;;0,0,1e99;;_move _all;;0,0,-1e99;;

Is flatten an existing command in the full version.

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Does any one use the Digitiser? It seemed like a good system when I saw it demonstrated a few years ago.

I've nver used it, but I imagne its very out-dated now. The technology is about 15 years old, maybe more. With modern technology, it can be combined with the screen, to give a modern drawing board,
see here http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/



Do people here use toolbars??
I use cad in zero mode (i call it), ctrl+0 I think. I have perm on, barely a single button, all commands through shortcuts

sydthebeat

Mellor wrote: »

Do people here use toolbars??
I use cad in zero mode (i call it), ctrl+0 I think. I have perm on, barely a single button, all commands through shortcuts

i use about 50 / 50 between toolbars and shortcuts....
the majority of my toolbars contain flyouts, much easier and less clutter on screen


does anyone use sheet sets?? whats the idea behind them...

PS started using etransmit when emailing drawings... its an excellent tool..!!!

topcatcbr

I use toolbars for all but the most common comands then i use the shortcuts. tip you can add commands easily to tool bars if you like eg i use the divide comand a good bit and have added it to my standard tool bar.

sydthebeat

can we sticky this??

smashey

I'm thinking we could move it to the new CAD forum.

Fighting Irish

ifl

DvB

topcatcbr wrote: »

I use toolbars for all but the most common comands then i use the shortcuts. tip you can add commands easily to tool bars if you like eg i use the divide comand a good bit and have added it to my standard tool bar.

I use toolbars for pretty much everything, currently using 2006 LT (with slingshot) & Full Autocad 2006, cant see the office updating the software for a while either, wages & keeping the company afloat is the priority these days.

Mellor

Moved to the CAD forum

Mellor

Im surprized at how many people use toolbars for everything.
I have no toolbars on screen, except for properties drop down along the top, and the regular stuff.

All the common commands I use shortcuts.
If I need a strange command, I'll either find it. Or just type the whole cammand name in full.

I never had to learn the shortcuts, most can be guess,
line = l
polyline = pl
erase = e
move = m
trim = tr

It used to annoy me that "R" was redraw and not rotate, so I changed it.

Quazzie

Mellor wrote: »

Im surprized at how many people use toolbars for everything.
I have no toolbars on screen, except for properties drop down along the top, and the regular stuff.

All the common commands I use shortcuts.
If I need a strange command, I'll either find it. Or just type the whole cammand name in full.

I never had to learn the shortcuts, most can be guess,
line = l
polyline = pl
erase = e
move = m
trim = tr

It used to annoy me that "R" was redraw and not rotate, so I changed it.

I'm the opposite I wouldn't know the command lines for most of the even more basics commands. I use Toolbars for everything.

I think that means i'm lazy but there is no changing me now. Its actually a bit of a bitch when I change to someone else computer and the icons are all in different positions, so maybe i should set a bit of time learning the commands

smashey

It's all to do with what you are used to. I'm with Mellor in that I use the shortcuts. Even now while having a mouse with a wheel, I still use "z" for zoom.

Mellor

Q2002 wrote: »

I'm the opposite I wouldn't know the command lines for most of the even more basics commands. I use Toolbars for everything.

I think that means i'm lazy but there is no changing me now. Its actually a bit of a bitch when I change to someone else computer and the icons are all in different positions, so maybe i should set a bit of time learning the commands

There is no learning, just take a guess. You'll get it right most of the time.

One Cold Hand

Plus 'spacebar' is repeat last command, so if, for example you are trimming lots of different lines, you can just keep hitting space, instead of typing tr or finding it on the toolbar.

I use the mouse to navigate, and the keyboard to input commands. It really is worth it to learn the few simple commands. As mellor says, it's generally common sense. RO is rotate, MI is mirror, etc.

Slig

The "Esc" on the escape key of my keyboard is starting to wear off again:DHas to be the only shortcut key I use on cad

Mellor

One Cold Hand wrote: »

Plus 'spacebar' is repeat last command, so if, for example you are trimming lots of different lines, you can just keep hitting space, instead of typing tr or finding it on the toolbar.

If you are trimming lots of lines, start the trim command, then right click without selecting a trimming/cutting line. This enters free trim mode, can just click any line to trim it bet its two cloest intersections.

RKQ

Slig wrote: »

Are there any programmes out there that allow you to print out from later autocad versions?
I have 2006 and Some of our consulatants have 2007/08. Just means that everytime I get a drawing I have to call them back and get them to save as an earlier version

Try AutocadDWG DXF Converted - it also converts from Autocad 9 up to Autocad 2007 and vice versa!

Darren1o1

RKQ wrote: »

Try AutocadDWG DXF Converted - it also converts from Autocad 9 up to Autocad 2007 and vice versa!

He has an older version so it will not have the capability to use newer versions. If you need to edit the drawing the only thing you could do is to store it in a similar format. If you just need to view it they could pdf it or you could use a viewer program

as regards to tricks there are commonly available cut sheets of the old command prompts with used to use R11 and upgraded to 2009, I still use prompts such as xline (constructiom), o (offset), dimscale (dimsension scale) etc etc

smashey

Darren1o1 wrote: »

dimscale (dimsension scale) etc etc

And I still use dimasz (dimension arrow size) every now and again out of pure habit.

Darren1o1

smashey wrote: »

And I still use dimasz (dimension arrow size) every now and again out of pure habit.

Ha ha I know what you mean, due to customization of some of our autocad we went from R11 with was command based to the newest 2009 windows based. We jumped approximately 15 years. It is still weird to have helical shapes and other cool things associated with a modern package. When I am drawing, it looks like I am programming lol.

sinnerboy

In layout tab - right click on tag and select Page Setup Manager

Edit your plot routine - by ticking Display Plot Styles below ctb file

Then Using tools - options - display -colours - set Layout tabs to Background colour white

Your paper space will always look "like paper" no need for plot preview

RKQ

Thanks Sinnerboy. I use a black background with coloured lines for differing line thickness. Coloured lines, particularly yellow, are hard to see on a white back ground.

Would you recommend changing it to white for less eye strain?
Do most people use a white back ground?

Cheers

magwea

Ok, i haven't been using AC for long, still drawing 2D only, doing a pretty intensive crash course though, some tips i picked up on:

A colour neutral grey for the display is the best option i find, all the default linetype colours are visiible, white on the otherhand is a bad idea i think since it is much brighter and causes more eye strain.

ctrl+0 really is the only way to work if your screen is small, the toolbars take up crazy screen real estate, and it forces you to learn the aliases which will in the end save you so much time, plus AC has a hard time loading all the tools slowing down the program.

When i started out i went as far as searching acad.pgp for every command i used to learn to aliases, AC is in the habit of hiding the pgp in different folders depending on the version, but it can always be found by going to tools/customize/edit program parameters. Save as "Alias.txt" to the desktop and keep it open whenever your running AC. I would avoid changing any of the alias since its going to cripple you when you work on any machine that isn't your own.

If you have two lines that you wish to make intersect, call up the fillet command (f), enter a radius (r) 0, select both lines. This is much quicker then extending and triming.

Tempoverrides should be set to 0: this is very annoying when set to 1 as is the default since it will lag or stick all your +shift commands like @, <,...

Match properties (ma) is a great way of avoiding the annoying drop down layer menu when your moving griping to change layer. Simply select a handle that is on the layer you want and then select all the lines you want to put on that layer: so much faster.

@ will continue the next command from (or relative to) the end point of the last command, real handy if your drawing multiple circles with the same centre or if you want to the break at point (eg. br/f/@)

Don't bother trying to break at point a circle or an ellipsis AC will tell you to feck-off.

If you find that you can no longer pan across further or zoom out type Regen (re), this will also make your arcs and circles look prettier when you zoom in.

Using properties (ch) to edit text is much easier and quicker then using ddedit.

Shift+space lets you select an underlying line.

And for gods sake never hit F1 or use the help in Autocad, google is alwyas much more helpful. I'd go so far as to disable it.

magwea

Anyone use custom mice or keyboards, tablets for AC? I hear track balls are much handier for drafting.

I've ordered a nostromo keyboard, after reading this thread, anyone using one of these. Not sure what the setting up is going to be like.

magwea

This has to be the most annoying default in AC after Tempoverrides:

To stop trimming and extending to apparent intersections set edgemode to 0.

magwea

sinnerboy wrote: »

Lets see if this takes off

Some handy ones I came across recently - for AutoCAD Lite - for areas / perimeters

Draw a polyline around the rooms / spaces

Using this lisp routine ( edit a new icon ) - click on the ployline and a text area / perimeter will insert

Boundary area (only)

^C^C_area;_object;\-mtext;\@300,0;Area $M=$(rtos,$(/,$(getvar,area),1000000),2,0) M2 ;;

Boundary area and perimeter

^C^C_area;_object;\-mtext;\@300,0;Area $M=$(rtos,$(/,$(getvar,area),1000000),2,0) M2 ;Perimeter $(rtos,$(/,$(getvar,perimeter),1000),2,0) M ;;

- this one is god for site layouts - roads footpaths - set up yout curves and lines on a temp layer - then click this command and it will create a continuous polyline to the shape you have outlined

Boundary
^C^C_boundary

Apologies for trolling the thread:

But ^C^C_boundary has me confused; this does the same thing as say drawing a rectangle around an object and using boundary to get the outline.

Some more noobish question; what does the "^C^C" mean?

Whats the difference between a boundary and a perimeter?

bfocusd

sinnerboy wrote: »

ever have to work on a drawing where the Z co ords are all jumbled up - and intersection snaps / fillet / polyline edit don't work because "lines are not co planar" - try this

^C^C_UCS;;_move _all;;0,0,1e99;;_move _all;;0,0,-1e99;;

i uploaded your lisp routine and it doesnt work as you mentioned,
it basically 'flat packs' the entire drawing, turning it into a 2D drawing, its similar to using the overkill command.

it basically moves everything onto the plane of the world xy ucs axis,
deleting the z axis values and making it possible to join the polylines,

the only reason i could see this ever being used would be if i was to convert a 3d drawing into a 2d... and even then it looses some data while compacting the drawing.

to set it up (full 2009): i first did an appload and it didnt recogonise the name i gave it so i placed it into the cui file on the ribbon tab with the icon etc when i tried it on a few polylines it deleted some and did join the odd one or two, but when i tried it in a more complex drawing it basically flattened the drawing, lucky enough i noticed it before i hit save.

Mackman

Mellor wrote: »

Im surprized at how many people use toolbars for everything.
I have no toolbars on screen, except for properties drop down along the top, and the regular stuff.

All the common commands I use shortcuts.
If I need a strange command, I'll either find it. Or just type the whole cammand name in full.

I never had to learn the shortcuts, most can be guess,
line = l
polyline = pl
erase = e
move = m
trim = tr

It used to annoy me that "R" was redraw and not rotate, so I changed it.

I use both, Most of the basic commands i use shortcuts. Ive learned lots of them over the years. Maybe we could make a list of them? I would love to learn more, its so much quicker than using the toolbars.
(to add to yours above)

Extend = ex
Rectangle = rec
Circle = c
Properties = ch
Regenerate = re
Mirror = mi
Stretch = s
Explode = x
Copy = co
Arc = a
Construction Line = xl
Spline = spl
Multiline Text = t
Offset = o
Distance = di
Rotate = ro
Scale = sc
Chamfer = cha
Insert = i
Match Properties = ma
Undo = u
Write Block = w
Polyline Edit = pedit
List (for info about an object, i use it for area) = li
External Reference = xr
Hatch = h

Thats all i can think of at the moment.

smashey

Mackman wrote: »

I use both, Most of the basic commands i use shortcuts. Ive learned lots of them over the years. Maybe we could make a list of them? I would love to learn more, its so much quicker than using the toolbars.
(to add to yours above)

Thats all i can think of at the moment.

Using Z for Zoom is very handy and when you hit either enter or the space bar after Z then A for all, D for dynamic, E for extents, and W for window all ceom into play.

Mackman

smashey wrote: »

Using Z for Zoom is very handy and when you hit either enter or the space bar after Z then A for all, D for dynamic, E for extents, and W for window all ceom into play.

The mouse wheel is great for zooming. double click it to zoom extents, and hold it down for pan

smashey

Mackman wrote: »

The mouse wheel is great for zooming. double click it to zoom extents, and hold it down for pan

I know that but it's all habit with me stemming from starting on AutoCad release 9.