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Press pass

  • 23-07-2008 3:27am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭


    I know a lot of people want to get press passes but dont/cant know/arrange to get one so heres a possible soloution to this, cost is €50 and its valid for three years. Hope it helps, I might get one myself too :)

    http://picturestock.com/phpcode/web/press_pass.php


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    I'v only read the first 2 paragrphs but from what iv read its seems like you might get access?And that seems mainly in the U.S?

    Maybe you can get one and test it for all of us and see where you can get into :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭sasar


    If you are shutterstock user, this might be useful:
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    We wanted to take this opportunity to remind you about one of Shutterstock's most exciting programs: Shutterstock on the Red Carpet. Through this program—the only one of its kind—Shutterstock is helping its photographers acquire sought-after press passes, whether it’s to film premieres, rock concerts, sporting events, or political rallies. If there’s a red carpet event in your market, we want our photographers there, capturing the action! It’s a great opportunity for you to gain access to special events, and a way for us to build our photo library. It’s working, too—since Shutterstock on the Red Carpet launched in the spring, many of our photographers have attended special events and we’ve added greatly to our collection of celebrity shots.

    So, no more velvet ropes for you. If there is an event that you want to capture on film and we can help get you there, please fill out the form located here http://submit.shutterstock.com/redcarpet.pdf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭OctoberFall


    This is selling fake IDs, which is illegal. This thread should be closed, and link removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    How are the ID's fake? All it says is that you're a photographer with picturestock. Nothing fake or illegal about that.

    A press pass isn't an access pass. You must still request access from the event organiser/co-ordinator.

    They're selling nothing more than an ID card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭decsramble


    This is selling fake IDs, which is illegal. This thread should be closed, and link removed.

    A quick search on google seems to back this opinion up. It may not be fake but it's seen as a bit of a scam.

    You can get something similar from BigHugeLabs through Flickr for free, you may have to print it out and laminate it yourself but considering RTE was talking about the Flickr link up with Getty youd probably have a better chance of getting into events with it, i.e. 0.0000001% instead of 0.0000000% ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    It's just another way for them to make money.

    I hold a number of press passes, but even as the picturestock site says, you still need to contact the organiser/event co-ordinator to request access.

    I honestly can't see it being of use really. But, I guess it depends on what you want, and how good you are at blagging your way in to events. :D A photo ID is always useful, especially if it says "Press" on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    For most significant events in Ireland, you need to be accredited beforehand. Once you turn up, you will then need to identify yourself. I have often had to use my work ID badge, but it could have been a driver's licence, or anything. They have your name on a list & want to verify that you are who you say you are.

    These passes aren't going to get you into anything, where you haven't been pre-registered. Once your name is in the list, the organisers will give you event passes, so you won't be required to show ID again at that event.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    These will probably never work. Does anyone have any info on how to obtain an accredited press pass though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭sunny2004


    This is selling fake IDs, which is illegal. This thread should be closed, and link removed.

    Little OTT... :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    steve06 wrote: »
    Does anyone have any info on how to obtain an accredited press pass though?

    Make the greater percentage of your earnings from photography & get an NUJ card.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    steve06 wrote: »
    These will probably never work. Does anyone have any info on how to obtain an accredited press pass though?

    Define "an accredited press pass".

    A press pass for what?

    An NUJ press pass? Join the NUJ.

    It depends on what you want access to. For sports, many organisations have their own accreditation system, some not requiring a "press pass" as such.

    Almost all events have an access list. As the man says, "if you're name's not down, you're not getting in", no matter what press pass you hold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    City-Exile wrote: »
    Make the greater percentage of your earnings from photography & get an NUJ card.

    Isn't it something like a minimum of 40% of your earnings must come from press photography, or something similar to get an NUJ photography accreditation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    Paulw wrote: »
    Isn't it something like a minimum of 40% of your earnings must come from press photography, or something similar to get an NUJ photography accreditation.


    To be a full member you must be earning minimum 50% of your gross income from journalism and can have no other full time occupation outside of journalism. To be a temporary member you must have no other full time occupation outside of journalism but there is no minimum earning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    City-Exile wrote: »
    To be a full member you must be earning minimum 50% of your gross income from journalism and can have no other full time occupation outside of journalism. To be a temporary member you must have no other full time occupation outside of journalism but there is no minimum earning.
    that's a lot to ask if someone is trying to get into the industry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭OctoberFall


    Paulw wrote: »
    How are the ID's fake?
    Because it is saying that the buyer is Press. If they were really Press, then they wouldn't need to buy a fake pass saying so.
    Paulw wrote: »
    A press pass isn't an access pass. You must still request access from the event organiser/co-ordinator.
    Then what is the point of this pass? "Look I have a bit of plastic telling you to give me a press pass".

    It's a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    steve06 wrote: »
    that's a lot to ask if someone is trying to get into the industry!


    Some people here will tell you that NUJ members will often try to prevent others from getting in, because they fear competition.
    I'm not comfortable with being a member of a union anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    City-Exile wrote: »
    Some people here will tell you that NUJ members will often try to prevent others from getting in, because they fear competition.
    I'm not comfortable with being a member of a union anyway.

    +1 Have had dealings with 1 member in particular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    I have no job but have done small photographic jobs for family and friends meaning thats 100% of my income
    Can i get an NUJ :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    Because it is saying that the buyer is Press. If they were really Press, then they wouldn't need to buy a fake pass saying so.

    Many organisations require you to pay for your ID pass. Nothing new there. Others require you to pay a "membership" fee.
    Then what is the point of this pass? "Look I have a bit of plastic telling you to give me a press pass".

    It's a joke.

    Sweet FA. In more cases than not, as City-Exile said, any form of photo ID is enough. You will almost always need to be on an access list to get in to any organised event. A press pass, more than anything else, is just another form of photo ID.

    I hold 3 press passes - An FAI media pass, an ASJI membership card, and also an AIPS press pass. I still need to contact the event organisers to gain access. I also hold accreditation with other organisations, such as ERC, which do not issue a press pass ID, but do require you to show a valid photo ID for entry to events.

    So, a press pass, is just another form of photo ID. How fake is that?!?!?! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    Just for information, any time I apply for accreditation, they need to to know what paper I'm working for & who the editor is. Approval is granted, or denied, based on that. Then I just need to identify myself when I get to the event.

    There is no magic card which will get you in everywhere, no questions asked. Except maybe a Garda warrant card. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    You might have missed the text that was on the site too mentioning that they will send out a letter of accreditation on your behalf within two days of request. The site is an actual stock photography site and this is from them so whats the big deal..

    I only posted because people are usually looking for ways to get accredited, I didnt expect abuse for it.....


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    steve06 wrote: »
    that's a lot to ask if someone is trying to get into the industry!

    I'd have to agree, the NUJ requirments seem to be their to limit people getting into the industry


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Borderfox wrote: »
    I only posted because people are usually looking for ways to get accredited, I didnt expect abuse for it.....

    I honestly don't see why anybody should give you abuse, you posted the link and people can clearly read what it is and whats it about, sure comments were made about you';d need to be on a list to which makes perfect sense.

    Any comments about it being illegal are crap though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    I do think its completely valid, but prob wouldnt work over here

    Once your shooting for any sort of media outlet [paper, magazine or in this case, a stock site] they'd give you a pass

    But its standard over here that to get a pass for bigger venues, the person who assigned you to the job [usually the editor] has to email all the info to the promoters

    Although, I think it says they'll send a confirmation letter to promoters on your behalf, so, might work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    Although I'm fundamentally against giving stuff to Microstock Agencies (thats just me though), I think it's a great post Keith.

    Certainly a valid means of getting ID, that may work in some cases.

    Thanks

    T.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i've read about this on flickr alot, seems its a utter scam job in the usa too, have heard nothing but bad stuff bout it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    Do stock sites use concert pics? I wouldnt have thought so....


    I emailed them askin if anyone in Ireland used their passes successfully, and suprise they said yes, many every day

    I might just give it a bash some time. Like I said, simply having a media outlet that will assign you to shoot is a big help

    and you can pay by Paypal, so if theres any scammage goin on, you should be sorted for a refund

    Although, I cant see them risking a scam while tryin to run a stock site

    See wha happens, but yeah, cheers Borderfox :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    i've read about this on flickr alot, seems its a utter scam job in the usa too, have heard nothing but bad stuff bout it.


    I don't agree with that at all.

    Whatever I might think of Shutterstock, they are as entitled to get their photographers into events as anyone else is. The event has the right to admit or not as it sees fit.

    Where's the scam or problem with that? It's simply business.

    T.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Covey wrote: »
    I don't agree with that at all.

    Whatever I might think of Shutterstock, they are as entitled to get their photographers into events as anyone else is. The event has the right to admit or not as it sees fit.

    Where's the scam or problem with that? It's simply business.

    T.
    very well i'm merely going by what i read


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    unreggd wrote: »
    I emailed them askin if anyone in Ireland used their passes successfully, and suprise they said yes, many every day

    They're hardly going to say no, and put you off spending money with them.

    Can they back that claim up with facts? Names/contact details for anyone in Ireland with such a pass?? I suspect they can't.

    But, it's only a few Euro. No harm giving it a try.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭decsramble


    Borderfox wrote: »
    I only posted because people are usually looking for ways to get accredited, I didnt expect abuse for it.....

    Didnt mean to come across as abusing you, just the site. It sounded good until I googled it and read people saying it was a rip off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    Paulw wrote: »

    Can they back that claim up with facts? Names/contact details for anyone in Ireland with such a pass?? I suspect they can't.

    Why ever not Paul?. I suspect that many have used these for a large range of events all over the place and why not.

    Sure, it mightn't get you into Croke Park on All-Ireland day or the Leonard Cohen concert, but there are many events up and down the country that would probably welcome people with some accreditation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    ricky91t wrote: »
    I have no job but have done small photographic jobs for family and friends meaning thats 100% of my income
    Can i get an NUJ :p

    Yes, you should apply for a temporary card.
    info[at]nuj[dot]ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    City-Exile wrote: »
    Yes, you should apply for a temporary card.
    info[at]nuj[dot]ie

    Sorry to be stupid!
    But im asuming you're joking :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    Ricky,

    There may well be a minimum age limit also?

    T.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    No, he's serious. You should contact them and see. You may very well be able to get an NUJ card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    ricky91t wrote: »
    Sorry to be stupid!
    But im asuming you're joking :confused:

    Why would I be joking?
    Send them an e-mail, outline your position & ask where you stand on gaining membership. The worst that can happen is that they say you're not eligible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    the NUJ card doesnt seem to be much use

    You still need to be assigned by some form of a media outlet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    City-Exile wrote: »
    Why would I be joking?
    Send them an e-mail, outline your position & ask where you stand on gaining membership. The worst that can happen is that they say you're not eligible.

    Sorry peader Just after reading saying you need to earn more than 50% or your income etc i thought you were joking.Oh well iv sent an email and i'll await a reply :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    unreggd wrote: »
    the NUJ card doesnt seem to be much use

    You still need to be assigned by some form of a media outlet

    But for someone like me it will be perfect cos at this point you need photo i.d to get into most events and all i have is a passport :rolleyes:.So if i could get that it would come in handy plus the other things i read on the site seem very helpfull too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    ricky91t wrote: »
    Sorry peader Just after reading saying you need to earn more than 50% or your income etc i thought you were joking.

    That's for full membership.
    You should be able to apply for a temporary card.
    Many students get them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    ricky91t wrote: »
    But for someone like me it will be perfect cos at this point you need photo i.d to get into most events and all i have is a passport :rolleyes:.So if i could get that it would come in handy plus the other things i read on the site seem very helpfull too!
    Yes, but you only need photo ID if your name is already down on the list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    unreggd wrote: »
    Yes, but you only need photo ID if your name is already down on the list

    What list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Thats where the letters come in, get in touch with the company organising the event/match/gig and get contact details off them then get in touch with stock site and they email/fax a letter stating you are working for them at the event/match/gig and then you go on the list of photographers to admit to the event/match/gig.

    I did some work for Irelands Equestrian magazine and asked them for a letter of accreditiaion and used that to get my press pass for the RDS. This is how it works, its not magic and it doesnt fall into your lap, its hard work and persistence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    ricky91t wrote: »
    What list?
    The guest list

    Basically, when you're shootin an event, you email the promoters and ask for a photo pass, and they'll ask who you're shooting for, and sometimes they'll want confirmation from the paper/magazine themselves

    then they put you on the guest list for a photo pass, which you collect at the box office of the venue

    Being assigned by the media outlet is the important part


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Oh i knew that!I thougbh you were talking about how you could get photo id in you were on some photo id list.Yeah i havnt got photo ID though.Hence im looking into an NUJ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Email received have to wait till im either a third level full time journalism student or working full time in journalism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    That won't be long, eh Ricky? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Hopefully not:D
    If all goes well in school this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭City-Exile


    Just keep the head down & stay off boards. :D


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