Opel Insignia

E92

Made its debut today at the London motor show. For more, see here.

GM said that Irish prices would be announced today - anyone have any ideas what they're charging and what models we will be getting?

All 2.0 diesel models with a manual gearbox get into 20% VRT, because their CO2 is 154 g/km.

The petrols manage to be dirtier than the outgoing Vectra, the 1.6 manages 179 g/km, and the 1.8 manages to pollute 184 g/km, - so I think it's fairly safe to say that we won't be getting a 1.6 Insignia.

Another astonishing thing about the Insignia is that it is 4.83 metres long, making it some 20 cm longer than the Avensis:eek:! It also weighs no less than 150 kg more than the Vectra it replaces(1503 kg minimum), so obviously the 1.6 will be completely rubbish(not that it matters since we almost certainly won't be getting it), and the 1.8 isn't likely to be much cop either.

The only decent option for Ireland looks like the 2.0 CDTI 160 bhp version. It dispatches 0-100 km/h in 9.5 seconds, which is exactly the same as the not at all fast E34 520i, which actually has 150 ponies under the bonnet. Just goes to show how bloated the family car segment has become in recent years. The 110 bhp model does 0-100 in no less than 14, yes that's 14 seconds so that will obviously be laughably slow. Hopefully the entry model for Ireland will be the 2.0 CDTI 130 bhp, which does 0-100 in 11.3 seconds and has a top speed of 202 km/h. That's hardly very quick either.

Climate Expert

I like the size of all these new cars but the engines aren't keeping up. Too slow and too heavy on fuel. None can touch the 520D for this.

bazz26

Are those GM sourced diesel engines or Fiat?

vectra

E92 wrote: »

Made its debut today at the London motor show. For more, see here.

GM said that Irish prices would be announced today - anyone have any ideas what they're charging and what models we will be getting?

All 2.0 diesel models with a manual gearbox get into 20% VRT, because their CO2 is 154 g/km.

The petrols manage to be dirtier than the outgoing Vectra, the 1.6 manages 179 g/km, and the 1.8 manages to pollute 184 g/km, - so I think it's fairly safe to say that we won't be getting a 1.6 Insignia.

Another astonishing thing about the Insignia is that it is 4.83 metres long, making it some 20 cm longer than the Avensis:eek:! It also weighs no less than 150 kg more than the Vectra it replaces(1503 kg minimum), so obviously the 1.6 will be completely rubbish(not that it matters since we almost certainly won't be getting it), and the 1.8 isn't likely to be much cop either.

The only decent option for Ireland looks like the 2.0 CDTI 160 bhp version. It dispatches 0-100 km/h in 9.5 seconds, which is exactly the same as the not at all fast E34 520i, which actually has 150 ponies under the bonnet. Just goes to show how bloated the family car segment has become in recent years. The 110 bhp model does 0-100 in no less than 14, yes that's 14 seconds so that will obviously be laughably slow. Hopefully the entry model for Ireland will be the 2.0 CDTI 130 bhp, which does 0-100 in 11.3 seconds and has a top speed of 202 km/h. That's hardly very quick either.

Roumor has it that the top model available hee in Ireland will have the 2.2 Bi-Turbo diesel unit from the Saab. pushing out in the region of 220/230 bhp. I am only going on what I was told so dont slate me if I am wrong.

Zonda999

E92 wrote: »

Made its debut today at the London motor show. For more, see here.

GM said that Irish prices would be announced today - anyone have any ideas what they're charging and what models we will be getting?

All 2.0 diesel models with a manual gearbox get into 20% VRT, because their CO2 is 154 g/km.

The petrols manage to be dirtier than the outgoing Vectra, the 1.6 manages 179 g/km, and the 1.8 manages to pollute 184 g/km, - so I think it's fairly safe to say that we won't be getting a 1.6 Insignia.

Another astonishing thing about the Insignia is that it is 4.83 metres long, making it some 20 cm longer than the Avensis:eek:! It also weighs no less than 150 kg more than the Vectra it replaces(1503 kg minimum), so obviously the 1.6 will be completely rubbish(not that it matters since we almost certainly won't be getting it), and the 1.8 isn't likely to be much cop either.

The only decent option for Ireland looks like the 2.0 CDTI 160 bhp version. It dispatches 0-100 km/h in 9.5 seconds, which is exactly the same as the not at all fast E34 520i, which actually has 150 ponies under the bonnet. Just goes to show how bloated the family car segment has become in recent years. The 110 bhp model does 0-100 in no less than 14, yes that's 14 seconds so that will obviously be laughably slow. Hopefully the entry model for Ireland will be the 2.0 CDTI 130 bhp, which does 0-100 in 11.3 seconds and has a top speed of 202 km/h. That's hardly very quick either.

Jeez, the new skoda superb manages to be much brisker than that when it probably weighs about the same and has engines with similiar power outputs
That 14 second 0-60 time for the 110 diesel is pathetic altogether, the 1.9tdi(Yes, i know how old it is but ti think that makes it even more amazing) 105bhp superb superb does 60 in 12.5 seconds.Where are you findng the performance figures for the insignia??

manta mad

well people i should be able to tell ye a bit about it after the weekend,

as i was one of the lucky 5 people to win a trip to the london motor show this weekend

as a vip guest of opel ireland !!!!!!

or if you want any info onthe new opel insignia have a look on here

www.totalopel.com

irelands opel owners club

pburns

Climate Expert wrote: »

I like the size of all these new cars but the engines aren't keeping up. Too slow and too heavy on fuel. None can touch the 520D for this.

Not every manufacturer can churn out engines as technologically advanced as BMW. Keeping a limit on size/weight would be a bonus though.

Saying you like the new XXL size but not the resulting downsides is expecting to have your cake and eat it too...

Why does a mid-size saloon need to be this big?:eek:

E92

Zonda999 wrote: »

Where are you findng the performance figures for the insignia??

Opel's own press release. Go to opel.com and click on news. It's all there.

The diesel engines are GM designs. GM have been divorced from FIAT for quite a while at this stage, so it was inevitable that the current arrangement couldn't go on forever. I presume there will be a more powerful 2.0 diesel, such is the pace of diesel technology these days that 160 bhp is starting to look a bit weedy already, that and the fact that GM have a 250 bhp 2.9 diesel on the way.

The petrol Insignias are very poor on CO2. 179 g/km from a 1.6 when Audi manages 154 g/km from a 2.0 in the A4 that's nearly twice as powerful and BMW manages a virtually identical 178 g/km from a 530i(that's a 3.0 litre petrol BMW with the added handicap of an automatic gearbox) with an automatic gearbox.

Though none of this matters since the diesels are in 20% VRT, the same as the C5 1.6 HDi, or a Legacy diesel, or Avensis 2.0 D-4D etc. And the CO2 of 154 g/km is the same whether it's the 110 bhp or the most powerful 160 bhp version, meaning no excuse to go for an underpowered 110 bhp car that takes 14 seconds to hit 100 km/h.

I would hope that since the Vectra(and Zafira) had a 100 bhp diesel option in the continent and we never got it that the same will happen this time round and we will only get the 130 bhp version as the entry level model.

As for BMW making fuel efficient cars, it's all down to the EfficientDynamics trickery that they're using.

There's nothing extraordinarily advanced about their diesel engines anyway, bar the twin turbo models. The petrols are more advanced than the competition, but VAG's TFSI engines are nearly as advanced, which in turn is light years ahead of most of the other cars out there.

Stevie Dakota

If we want 5 NCAP stars and the ability to get to the dance after a head on at 40mph, cocooned from the outside world by 2 inches of soundproofing, while fiddling with our climate control and massaging seats then we better get used to fat cars. We want all this stuff so lets not crib when it's fed to us. Or buy a Mazda 2.

lafors

Well.....Any updates on the Insignia prices???
I see the prices on the Vauxhall site but not the opel.ie site.

E92

We're getting the 1.6 Insignia. Sheer madness. The whole point of the new VRT system was to kill off cars like this:(.

Thanks be to God the tax system has changed is all I can say, otherwise everyone would be driving a car that takes a yawning 13.5 seconds to hit 100 km/h and tops out at only 192 km/h in this country. Even the 1.8 only does 0-100 in 11.9 seconds and tops out at 206 km/h, these are figures similar to a 1.6 Avensis or Mondeo.

Even more odd is the fact that the 110 bhp version of the 2.0 CDTI won't be coming here. Opel have updated the technical specifications for the Insignia, so this engine actually manages it in a more respectable 12.4 seconds rather than the ridiculously slow 14 seconds I said back in my OP. Still far from fast though obviously.

Though I can't exactly say I'm going to be regretting the fact that the most popular version of the Insignia will have 130 bhp and does 0-100 in 11.1 seconds and hits 205 km/h:D.

vectra

E92 wrote: »

We're getting the 1.6 Insignia. Sheer madness. The whole point of the new VRT system was to kill off cars like this:(.

Thanks be to God the tax system has changed is all I can say, otherwise everyone would be driving a car that takes a yawning 13.5 seconds to hit 100 km/h and tops out at only 192 km/h in this country. Even the 1.8 only does 0-100 in 11.9 seconds and tops out at 206 km/h, these are figures similar to a 1.6 Avensis or Mondeo.

Even more odd is the fact that the 110 bhp version of the 2.0 CDTI won't be coming here. Opel have updated the technical specifications for the Insignia, so this engine actually manages it in a more respectable 12.4 seconds rather than the ridiculously slow 14 seconds I said back in my OP. Still far from fast though obviously.

Though I can't exactly say I'm going to be regretting the fact that the most popular version of the Insignia will have 130 bhp and does 0-100 in 11.1 seconds and hits 205 km/h.

Jeezus..!! :eek:

Those figures are terrible..!!
That put me right off one.
( Hopefully changing again in January )
Octavia Vrs TDi maybe

Táck

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

If we want 5 NCAP stars and the ability to get to the dance after a head on at 40mph, cocooned from the outside world by 2 inches of soundproofing, while fiddling with our climate control and massaging seats then we better get used to fat cars. We want all this stuff so lets not crib when it's fed to us. Or buy a Mazda 2.

world car of the year

lafors

vectra wrote: »

Jeezus..!! :eek:

Those figures are terrible..!!
That put me right off one.
( Hopefully changing again in January )
Octavia Vrs TDi maybe

Exact same two cars I was thinking of.
vRS seems more appealing after seeing those figures, but I'll wait to see the prices first.

For info, the Vauxhall Insignia UK price at present:
2.0CDTi (160PS) Manual Exclusiv OTR £17185 (Converted using XE €21733)
2.0CDTi (160PS) Manual SRi OTR £20035 (€25337)
2.0CDTi (160PS) Manual SE OTR £20735 (€26222)
2.0CDTi (160PS) Manual Elite OTR £22735 (€28755)

There are different levels inside each trim type (eg Nav, 4x4) which are increasing the price, I just picked the basic.

So I'd guess we'll end up paying €28-30k for the Base 2.0CDTi 160 Exclusiv model and up to €40k for the higher 2.0CDTi 160 Elite model.

E92

vectra wrote: »

Jeezus..!! :eek:

Those figures are terrible..!!
That put me right off one.
( Hopefully changing again in January )
Octavia Vrs TDi maybe

Now now your car takes 2.2 seconds longer to hit 100 than the CDTI 130 Insignia:D! The Insignia would also be much faster at the top end too, I think somewhere in the region of 20-25 km/h.

I rather like the look of the Insignia, if it's as good as the Astra then it will be nearly as good as the all conquering Mondeo, which will mean it will be something very special.

Zonda999

E92 wrote: »

We're getting the 1.6 Insignia. Sheer madness. The whole point of the new VRT system was to kill off cars like this:(.

Thanks be to God the tax system has changed is all I can say, otherwise everyone would be driving a car that takes a yawning 13.5 seconds to hit 100 km/h and tops out at only 192 km/h in this country. Even the 1.8 only does 0-100 in 11.9 seconds and tops out at 206 km/h, these are figures similar to a 1.6 Avensis or Mondeo.

Even more odd is the fact that the 110 bhp version of the 2.0 CDTI won't be coming here. Opel have updated the technical specifications for the Insignia, so this engine actually manages it in a more respectable 12.4 seconds rather than the ridiculously slow 14 seconds I said back in my OP. Still far from fast though obviously.

Though I can't exactly say I'm going to be regretting the fact that the most popular version of the Insignia will have 130 bhp and does 0-100 in 11.1 seconds and hits 205 km/h:D.

13.5 seconds, in a petrol.Thats absolutely appaling!!I cant believe opel ireland are bringing it in!!Vw have a real opportunity now with the passat.If they can replace the 1.9tdi in the passat, they will comfortably have the best petrol and diesel engines in its class.I can believe have made such little progress with this car!!I mean the figures for the mondeo were bad enough but these are just pathetic!

ninty9er

E92 wrote: »

We're getting the 1.6 Insignia. Sheer madness. The whole point of the new VRT system was to kill off cars like this:(.

Thanks be to God the tax system has changed is all I can say, otherwise everyone would be driving a car that takes a yawning 13.5 seconds to hit 100 km/h and tops out at only 192 km/h in this country.

"Jaysus Mick did ya see the new Insigniture that Opel have out. Fine sturdy lookin car!"
"Indeedin it is Patsy, and I hear it has a 1.6 so it'll be cheap to keep on the road"
"Sure what about the new road tax Mick, the 2.0 Diesel will be a cut below on the price"
"Christ Patsy, I've always had a 1.6, and I'll be damned if I'll change in this hour of my age...shur have ye seen the price a feckin' diesel these days"
"I suppose you're right Mick...but I might stretch to the 1.8"
"That'd be awful dear to tax Patsy!"
"Ah sure I suppose, the 1.6 is probably a safer bet"

RobAMerc

why is anyone surprised that Opel make a car that looks great but is dynamically sh*t - they have been doing it for years. granted the new corsa and the astra are finally up there with the pack but the vectra, previous astra, and corsa were always well off the pace dynamically - I imagine this is just the same old story again. - it will sell like hot cakes though :rolleyes:

Biro

ninty9er wrote: »

"Jaysus Mick did ya see the new Insigniture that Opel have out. Fine sturdy lookin car!"
"Indeedin it is Patsy, and I hear it has a 1.6 so it'll be cheap to keep on the road"
"Sure what about the new road tax Mick, the 2.0 Diesel will be a cut below on the price"
"Christ Patsy, I've always had a 1.6, and I'll be damned if I'll change in this hour of my age...shur have ye seen the price a feckin' diesel these days"
"I suppose you're right Mick...but I might stretch to the 1.8"
"That'd be awful dear to tax Patsy!"
"Ah sure I suppose, the 1.6 is probably a safer bet"

It's funny cause it's true!

Moses7

new set of wheels and brembo brakes.

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S.I.R

E92 wrote: »

Made its debut today at the London motor show. For more, see here.

GM said that Irish prices would be announced today - anyone have any ideas what they're charging and what models we will be getting?

All 2.0 diesel models with a manual gearbox get into 20% VRT, because their CO2 is 154 g/km.

The petrols manage to be dirtier than the outgoing Vectra, the 1.6 manages 179 g/km, and the 1.8 manages to pollute 184 g/km, - so I think it's fairly safe to say that we won't be getting a 1.6 Insignia.

Another astonishing thing about the Insignia is that it is 4.83 metres long, making it some 20 cm longer than the Avensis:eek:! It also weighs no less than 150 kg more than the Vectra it replaces(1503 kg minimum), so obviously the 1.6 will be completely rubbish(not that it matters since we almost certainly won't be getting it), and the 1.8 isn't likely to be much cop either.

The only decent option for Ireland looks like the 2.0 CDTI 160 bhp version. It dispatches 0-100 km/h in 9.5 seconds, which is exactly the same as the not at all fast E34 520i, which actually has 150 ponies under the bonnet. Just goes to show how bloated the family car segment has become in recent years. The 110 bhp model does 0-100 in no less than 14, yes that's 14 seconds so that will obviously be laughably slow. Hopefully the entry model for Ireland will be the 2.0 CDTI 130 bhp, which does 0-100 in 11.3 seconds and has a top speed of 202 km/h. That's hardly very quick either.

everyone whos anyone will buy the 1.6, take out that mini lump and bolt in the 2 liter engines... but personally, shes ugly and slow and over priced, not my cup of tea at all

pburns

S.I.R wrote: »

everyone whos anyone will buy the 1.6, take out that mini lump and bolt in the 2 liter engines... but personally, shes ugly and slow and over priced, not my cup of tea at all

I think that practice hasn't been common in Ireland since Nissan diesels were installed into S-class Mercs during our last recession...

Táck

ninty9er wrote: »

"Jaysus Mick did ya see the new Insigniture that Opel have out. Fine sturdy lookin car!"
"Indeedin it is Patsy, and I hear it has a 1.6 so it'll be cheap to keep on the road"
"Sure what about the new road tax Mick, the 2.0 Diesel will be a cut below on the price"
"Christ Patsy, I've always had a 1.6, and I'll be damned if I'll change in this hour of my age...shur have ye seen the price a feckin' diesel these days"
"I suppose you're right Mick...but I might stretch to the 1.8"
"That'd be awful dear to tax Patsy!"
"Ah sure I suppose, the 1.6 is probably a safer bet"

you have to work in an opel garage! thats spot on.

these people spawn 3dr astra buyers. "ja do finance on them?"

furtzy

There will be no 1.6 insignia. The smallest petrol is the 1.8 @ 184g/km which doesn't look a good option

The two 2.0 CDTi's (130PS and 160PS) come in at 154g/km

bazz26

Yes, the "Irish special" Astra saloon has now taken over the void left by the demise of the 1.6 Vectra.

vectra

furtzy wrote: »

There will be no 1.6 insignia. The smallest petrol is the 1.8 @ 184g/km which doesn't look a good option

The two 2.0 CDTi's (130PS and 160PS) come in at 154g/km

Two new engines for the entire Insignia class also debut. The innovative 2.0-liter BiTurbo diesel with clean tech combustion system has 190 hp, and the downsized 1.6-liter gasoline turbo engine reaches 180 hp.

Taken from >> HERE :cool:

E92

furtzy wrote: »

There will be no 1.6 insignia. The smallest petrol is the 1.8 @ 184g/km which doesn't look a good option

Oh yes there will be:

Link

Opel.ie wrote:

Four petrol engines will be available ranging from a four-cylinder 115 hp unit to a newly confirmed V6 with 260 hp. The two new direct-injection turbo-diesels exclusively developed for the Insignia feature displacement of 2.0 litres. They offer 130 and 160 hp and excellent torque values ranging from 300 to 350 Nm.

As the 1.8 has 138 bhp, and the 1.6 in other countries has 115 bhp, I therefore put 2 and 2 together and stated that we would be getting a 1.6 litre Insignia.

I wasn't referring to the 1.6 vectra mentioned either, as that is a Turbo engine, and we should be getting that engine in due course.

Speaking of 1.6 turbo petrol engines, BMW have one of these coming in the new X1 due out later on this year, and it will gradually replace the NA 2.0 N43B20(such is the pace of progress at the BMW engine department that an engine that only made its debut last March as in only 18 months ago is already due to be replaced by something better)found in the 1 and 3 series(as well as the X3 and 5 series in the continent).

Another forthcoming addition to the Insignia line up(well for the Continent anyway) is a 2.9 V6 CDTi with around 250 bhp.

Btw ninty9er, your spiel about "Mick and Patsy" and the 1.6 litre Insignia was absolutely funking hilarious:D!

djtechnics1210

Any idea when its going to be on sale in ireland

R.O.R

djtechnics1210 wrote: »

Any idea when its going to be on sale in ireland

I was told by Opel that pricing would be released in September with models in the dealers shortly afterwards, but really it's going to be January before they are readily available.

It probably all depends on how well it's selling in the UK, and how many of the Vectra's they still have hanging around.

vectra

djtechnics1210 wrote: »

Any idea when its going to be on sale in ireland

I was told by an Opel dealer to expect them on sale from November :cool:

E92

Looks like the Insignia is getting off to a great start, Autocar has been heaping the sort of praise it usually reserves for the Mondeo and 3 series.

And the Irish Times is over the moon about the car.

And yes there will be a 1.6 NA petrol.

It starts at €26,495, and you get all the basics including ESP as standard.

The line-up seems to be following the UK rather closely bar the 1.6 being available of course:mad:.

Hopefully nobody will buy it and everyone will flock straight to the oil burner with a much more respectable 130 bhp.

From the IT:
"Our test cars were powered by Opel's potent 2.0-litre 160bhp diesel engine. It's got a real kick and plenty of torque on tap, well matched to a smooth-changing manual gearbox. Five engines will be offered initially when the car arrives here in November. While there are three petrol engines in the range - a 1.6-litre, 1.8-litre and 2.0-litre turbo - none of them match the new 2.0-litre diesel for either fuel economy or carbon emissions. The diesel is offered in two power options - a 130bhp and 160bhp - but both record emission levels of just 154g/km when matched to a new six-speed manual gearbox.
At its current rating, the 2,0-litre diesel will carry a Vehicle Registration Tax (VRT) of 20 per cent, compared to 28 per cent for the 1.6-litre petrol version. While the core audience of Irish family saloon buyers are loathe to leave their petrol variants, the diesel would seem the outright best buy for Irish buyer."

Climate Expert

The Superb has been getting lots of plaudits from the press as well. I'd have it over the Insignia.

E92

Climate Expert wrote: »

The Superb has been getting lots of plaudits from the press as well. I'd have it over the Insignia.

Indeed the Superb has been getting on very well, with the major exception that the diesels have been slated as the only one with a proper engine is the 2.0 TDI 170 which has the common rail engine.

The 2.0 140 uses the more modern PD engine but WhatCar? slated it over the common rail lump in the 140 Passat for it being too noisy and for having a much narrower powerband than the common rail lump. The 1.9 is the tractor engine from the days of the Audi 80, which says enough really.

For €26k you are getting a serious amount of car though(the standard equipment list is very comprehensive for that price), I won't deny that but 105 bhp would be completely unsatisfactory for me and the bigger models are likely to lose value hand over fist.

It BeeMee

E92 wrote: »

Indeed the Superb has been getting on very well, with the major exception that the diesels have been slated as the only one with a proper engine is the 2.0 TDI 170 which has the common rail engine.

Looking at the pricelists on the Skoda site, the 170CR is only €700 more expensive than the 140TDI

Personally, I'd pay the €700 for the extra hp and refinement, but i wonder how many others will ?

Anyway.

I read the IT article about the Insignia also, and they give great praise for the quality of the interior.
I'd like to see one in the metal...

E92

It BeeMee wrote: »

Looking at the pricelists on the Skoda site, the 170CR is only €700 more expensive than the 140TDI

Personally, I'd pay the €700 for the extra hp and refinement, but i wonder how many others will ?

That's for practically nothing, especially when you are getting so much in return for a measley €700 but everyone will be buying the 1.9 "Greenline" with the tractor engine don't you know:(! I presume that anyone who doesn't want the 1.9 will go for the 170 though.

It shows you how bad some of the other members in the VAG stable are for value for money though, VW wants ~€1,400 more for the 170 over the 140, both cars are in the same VRT band, but yet the 140 Passat already has the newer and more expensive to make common rail lump while the Skoda has the dated PD lump, so you can make what you want of that.

geoff29

Insignia was driven passed me yesterday on the back of a trailer going through Blackrock - silver and looked very well. It somehow manages to look substantial.

Surely nothing touches the value of the base Superb though?! 25k for a vehicle that's 4.85m long!!! That diesel is very well priced whether you drive a taxi or not!

.Longshanks.

Slighly off topic, but can you shed any light on your signature. I've noticed no difference on the roads yet....

E92 wrote: »

Rare victories for common sense:

Since September 24, Inter Urban dual carriageways have been upgraded to Motorways 24 meaning the speed limit was raised from 100 km/h to 120 km/h !

Sweden, possibly the world's safest country to travel in has decided to raise their Motorway speed limit by 10 km/h

Zonda999

E92 wrote: »

That's for practically nothing, especially when you are getting so much in return for a measley €700 but everyone will be buying the 1.9 "Greenline" with the tractor engine

Talking to a friend of mine who sells skoda and he has been telling me a few problems with the greenline.Actually, there are only two but i can see why the standard 105 TDi is also being offered

1. The greenline does not have a spare wheel, of any sort.You do, however get that spray stuff.I think the vw touran has the same issue

2. A towing hitch cannot be factory fitted to a greenline.

I imagine this is because the above affects the economy/emissions.

Are these issues worth the money you'll save over standard?? Thats 800e, 140e less road tax, and improved fuel comsumption.

R.O.R

The Opel Insignia is due for launch in Ireland in early December.

Engine line up is: (Emissions in brackets)

1.6 115hp (179)
1.8 140hp (184)
2.0T 220hp (208 / 209 for Manual, 225 for Auto. Manaul 4x4 215 & Auto 4x4 229)
2.8T V6 260hp (272 Auto only)

2.0Cdti 130hp (154 for Manual, 177 / 179 for Auto)
2.0Cdti 160hp (154 for Manual, 177 / 179 for Auto)

Trim levels of:
S (1.6, 1.8, 130ps Diesel in Manual & Auto)
SC (1.6, 1.8, 130ps & 160ps Diesels in Manual & Auto)
SE (1.6, 1.8, 2.0T 2&4 wd, 130ps & 160ps Diesels in Manual & Auto)
SRi (1.8, 2.0T 2&4 wd, 130ps & 160ps Diesels in Manual & Auto)
Elite (1.8, 2.0T 2&4 wd, 160ps Diesel in Manual & Auto, 2.8T V6 Auto 4wd)

Standard features on the S model are:
Cruise Control
Air Conditioning
Leather Steering wheel with radio controls
Auto Lights with LED DRL's

SC adds:
17" Alloys
Climate Control
Front Armrest

SE gets:
18" Alloys
CD Changer with DAB and Shark Fin Aerial
Hill Start assist with electric parking brake
Auto wipers and auto dimming rear view

SRi gets:
Lowered Sports Suspension
18" Alloys
Front Fogs
Sports Seats

Elite gets:
Leather
Heated Electric Drivers seat
Climate Control
Front Fogs
Front & Rear Parking Sensors


Prices from 26,495 for the 1.6 S Saloon to 46,395 for the 2.8 Elite Hatch

SC Spec is €1,000 more than S Spec.
SE and SRi Spec are €1,700 more than SC Spec.
Elite is €2,500 more than SE/SRi
Hatch is €400 more than Saloon
1.8i and 2.0Cdti 130ps are €1000 more than 1.6
2.0T is €4,500 more than 1.8i

Details from the Opel press release. I'm sure they'll get around to updating the website mid January or so :rolleyes:

E92

R.O.R wrote: »

Details from the Opel press release. I'm sure they'll get around to updating the website mid January or so :rolleyes:

The full thing is here, and FWIW it's dated September 30;)!

Oh and there's mention of the ecoFLEX model with 160 bhp and 16% VRT(at last, an "eco" model with plenty of power and with versions of the new Avensis, Mondeo diesel good for 16% VRT, along with forthcoming versions of the Passat and Citroen C5 it'll need to come here sooner rather than later), and the Sports Tourer model as well as the new 1.6 turbo with 180 bhp and the 2.0 Bi-turbo diesel with 190 bhp too.

R.O.R

E92 wrote: »

The full thing is here, and FWIW it's dated September 30;)!

My bad, I didn't bother looking in the news section as they are generally even more out of date than the rest of the website.

I'm getting a 404 error from the above link. It's under the news section on the left hand side menu.

E92

R.O.R wrote: »

My bad, I didn't bother looking in the news section as they are generally even more out of date than the rest of the website.

I'm getting a 404 error from the above link. It's under the news section on the left hand side menu.

Fixed my link:)! Was working there when I checked at least!

lafors

Here's the pricing from Insignia Project (dunno if its an official Opel Site?), slightly different to what was on the official press release?

Opel has announced the Irish pricing for the Insignia, with a line-up of six engines and five trim levels across both saloon and hatchback models. Here is the full breakdown.


Insignia S
The basic model is the Insignia S, priced at €26,495. The Insignia S comes with ESP, cruise control, air conditioning, leather steering wheel with stereo controls, automatic lights with led daytime running lights, trip computer, electric height adjustment and 4-way lumbar support on the driver’s seat as standard.

The Insignia S is available with 1.6i 16v VVT and 1.8i 16v VVT petrol engines, and also a 2.0CDTi 16v 130hp diesel engine. All Insignias feature 6-speed gearboxes; the 2.0CDTi’s are available with an optional Automatic Gearbox.

Insignia SC
The SC model includes more style and even more equipment; 17” five spoke wheels, chrome effect exterior window surround to sill plates, climate control, interior ambient lighting, front arm-rest with storage compartment, rear arm-rest with cup-holders and load-through hatch. The Insignia SC is priced from €28,295 and is available with 1.6i 16v VVT and 1.8i 16v VVT petrol engines and 2.0CDTi 16v 130hp and 160hp diesel engines.

Insignia SE
The Insignia SE, starts at €29,995 and comes with even more gadgets and gizmos. It boasts Morrocana interior trim, 18” 13 spoke alloy wheels, 6-CD auto-changer with dab and a shark-fin aerial, electric parking brake with hill start assist, rain-sensitive windscreen wipers, electro-chromatic anti-dazzle rear view mirror, tilting driver’s seat with electric height adjustment and 4-way lumbar support on the front passenger seat.

The Insignia SE is available with 1.6i 16v VVT 1.8i 16v VVT petrol and 2.0CDTi 16v 130 and 160hp diesel engines. What’s more, the Insignia SE is the first of the trims to be available with 2.0i 16v VVT Turbo petrol engine with 220hp and optional Adaptive 4X4. This high-tech unit features direct injection, a variable-vane turbo and balancer shafts to give a smooth flow of power across the rev range. The 2.0i 16v VVT Turbo petrol engine comes with Flex-Ride active suspension as standard.

Insignia SRi
The Opel Insignia SRi is the sports model and is priced from €30,995. For that you get lowered, uprated sports suspension, sports instruments and steering wheel, 18” 5x2-spoke light alloy wheels, front fog lights and award-winning ergonomic sports front seats with extendable seat cushions, with optional leather trimmed upholstery featuring heated and ventilated front seats. On the engine front, the SRi is available with 1.8i 16v VVT petrol and 2.0CDTi 130hp and 160hp engines, and also offers the 2.0 16v VVT Turbo petrol engine with Flex-Ride.

The optional feature of adaptive 4X4 with the SRi offers drivers Electronic Limited Slip Differential (eLSD) to more dynamically distribute torque to the rear wheels as required. The characteristics of the torque distribution change when Sport Mode is selected on the dashboard.

Elite
The Elite is the top-of-the-range Insignia. Its spec speaks for itself. Leather trim, adaptive forward lighting with high-pressure headlight washers, electrically adjustable heated driver’s seat, dual-zone climate control with heat-reflective windscreen and humidity sensor, front fog lights, front and rear parking distance sensors and electrically folding door mirrors. Pricing for the Inignia Elite starts from €33,495.

The Elite is available in 1.8i 16v VVT and 2.0i 16v VVT Turbo petrol engines as well as 2.0CDTi 16v 160hp diesel. A powerful 2.8i V6 24v VVT Turbo petrol engine with an incredible 260hp is also available. This engine comes with a 6-speed Automatic gearbox and Adaptive 4X4 with Flex-Ride, to ensure the power delivery is as smooth as possible

Lex Luthor

i think for the money, the new Superb is far better equipped and looks better

lafors

Lex Luthor wrote: »

i think for the money, the new Superb is far better equipped and looks better

No way! The Superb looks like a bus, plus the prices are about 1-2k higher for a similar spec. You do get a good bit of car for the extra quids though.
I'd more see the new redesigned Octavia (out in december) as a competitor to the Insignia. The new design definitely looks better than the older design.
I see there is no sign of it on the Irish Skoda site and they are calling the current Octavia the "New Octavia", which it is not. Its probably been called the new octavia since it was put up on the site :rolleyes:

regedit

lafors wrote: »

No way! The Superb looks like a bus, plus the prices are about 1-2k higher for a similar spec. You do get a good bit of car for the extra quids though.
I'd more see the new redesigned Octavia (out in december) as a competitor to the Insignia. The new design definitely looks better than the older design.
I see there is no sign of it on the Irish Skoda site and they are calling the current Octavia the "New Octavia", which it is not. Its probably been called the new octavia since it was put up on the site :rolleyes:

I emailed Skoda in relation to the new Octavia. Response is here:

Thank you for your interest in Skoda Vehicels,
expect to launch the facelift Octavia in January 2009, with details of prices and specifications to be advised closer to the release date.

lafors

regedit wrote: »

I emailed Skoda in relation to the new Octavia. Response is here:

Thank you for your interest in Skoda Vehicels,
expect to launch the facelift Octavia in January 2009, with details of prices and specifications to be advised closer to the release date.

Here it is on their .com site
New Skoda Octavia

No word on pricing obviously.

Zonda999

Heres a review of the 1.8 insignia.Thats the base engine in the UK.To quote from the review, "to make decent progress you have to push it hard". God help the 1.6:rolleyes:...

Lex Luthor

The Superb to get an estate in early 2010. This will sell by the bucketloads...

there is something about the Octavia combi I don't like but can't put my finger on...for the price its great compared to the others, but the likes of the Mondeo/Mazda6/Accord estates just look that much better

The Insignia tourer though looks much better that the saloon/hatch. Any idea of prices of the Insignia tourer and is it available here yet?

ninty9er

Saw one tonight on my way home. Pulled up beside me at traffic lights. Nice looking machine.

lafors

Was at the Toys for big boys yokey in the RDS last night.
They had the Insignia SRi there, looks fantastic in the flesh(metal).
Very impressed with the interior, looks like they could be on to a winner with this one.
I asked about the boot, which will be 550 litres in both the saloon/liftback.
And the tourer will be available mid '09.