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Big tub of whey - why not just cottage cheese?

  • 22-07-2008 12:10pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭


    Fair enough, for PWO, a scoop of whey is good to get the protein into you.

    But instead of the funny tasting powder shake, why don't people just eat something like cottage cheese PWO?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    is cottage cheese as high in protein as whey?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭simon333


    A quick look at Tesco.ie:

    €0.95 per 300g tub.

    From http://www.weightlossforall.com/protein-cheese.htm cottage cheese has 14g per 100g.

    So 200g will give you 28g protein


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    The reason whey is better PWO is because it is very quickly digested by the body. This means that the protein will act faster in helping your muscles rebuild.

    Solid food sources take longer to digest and thus the protein does not act as quickly. Cottage cheese and other dairy products are amongst the slowest digesting protein sources. Hence, not a great source of PWO protein.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭simon333


    Ok, thanks for the answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    a can of tuna is 54g of protein. .Would liquidising a few and mixing in milk make them no longer a solid food?I never tried this before but am just troubleshooting.As a cheap a*s student big cans of tuna are 85 cent in lidl.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭mack1


    Al_Fernz wrote: »
    The reason whey is better PWO is because it is very quickly digested by the body. This means that the protein will act faster in helping your muscles rebuild.

    Solid food sources take longer to digest and thus the protein does not act as quickly. Cottage cheese and other dairy products are amongst the slowest digesting protein sources. Hence, not a great source of PWO protein.

    This is true, cottage cheese contains casin protein which is slower digesting, also, taking a tub of cottage cheese to the gym with you is not as easy as a shake.

    I wouldnt be too bothered about the slower absorbing rate of it though, to be fair, unless you're a pro bodybuilder - just get some protein into you - doesnt matter if it's cottage cheese or chicken or whatever, you don't need to spend a fortune on supps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭columok


    Convenience, preference and salt levels. Other than that protein is protein i guess. For us norms anyway...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭simon333


    A tub for €45 including shipping... I've read the opinion that that's cheap protein. How many tins of tuna would you have to buy to match the protein content? But then again, the tuna is a lot more "real" food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    I doubt blending tuna into milk would change its nutritional properties.

    What I meant by solid food was food high in natural protein sources like meat, eggs, fish etc.

    I understand that you are a student and have to be somewhat frugal with your resources. However, have you looked into getting any whey supps? Supplementing with whey can be pretty cost effective too - so I wouldn't write it off as a potential PWO source either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    simon333 wrote: »
    why don't people just eat something like cottage cheese PWO?

    /rant

    Because cottage cheese is the most rank, foul tasting , disgusting excuse for food I have ever had the misfortune to taste in my life. I bought 2 tubs on recommendation from people here, took 1 spoon and puked up. It's seriously vile. :mad:

    /rant


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    simon333 wrote: »
    A quick look at Tesco.ie:

    €0.95 per 300g tub.

    From http://www.weightlossforall.com/protein-cheese.htm cottage cheese has 14g per 100g.

    So 200g will give you 28g protein

    So €0.95 for 42g protein, 2.26cent per gram. 1kg of 80% protein powder has 800g protein, so at that price 1kg of protein would be €18. Not too bad but I get my whey cheaper than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    pvt.joker wrote: »
    /rant

    Because cottage cheese is the most rank, foul tasting , disgusting excuse for food I have ever had the misfortune to taste in my life. I bought 2 tubs on recommendation from people here, took 1 spoon and puked up. It's seriously vile. :mad:

    /rant


    Not a fan eh?

    I find its delicious mixed with whey protein. I mix it with pesto to make a nice pasta sauce. I throw it in wraps when I am having fajitas. Its a nice contrast with the spicy chicken. Another one is to put it in potato skins with meat and veg. Different strokes and all that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭pvt.joker


    Al_Fernz wrote: »
    Not a fan eh?

    I find its delicious mixed with whey protein. I mix it with pesto to make a nice pasta sauce. I throw it in wraps when I am having fajitas. Its a nice contrast with the spicy chicken. Another one is to put it in potato skins with meat and veg. Different strokes and all that...


    Definitely not a fan :D. I'll stick with whey shakes, give me over sweetness anyday over that stuff!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Remmy wrote: »
    a can of tuna is 54g of protein. .Would liquidising a few and mixing in milk make them no longer a solid food?I never tried this before but am just troubleshooting.As a cheap a*s student big cans of tuna are 85 cent in lidl.

    i hear tuna and diet coke blended is the way to go.Seriously though,i'm also a cheap student,and although you pay a good bit for the whey it works out pretty well in the long run.Plus shovelling cans of tuna every day is hard work,but even if you don't feel hungry you can fit a shake in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭simon333


    rubadub wrote: »
    So €0.95 for 42g protein, 2.26cent per gram. 1kg of 80% protein powder has 800g protein, so at that price 1kg of protein would be €18. Not too bad but I get my whey cheaper than that.

    So there's not that much of a difference between the cottage cheese and the whey powder, price wise.

    Cottage cheese (or tuna) would take a bit longer to be digested.

    But apart from that, is there any reason that I SHOULD by a supplement, instead of eat tinned/refrigerated food?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    simon333 wrote: »
    But apart from that, is there any reason that I SHOULD by a supplement, instead of eat tinned/refrigerated food?
    Well you get into the question of "what is a supplement".
    Some would say it is something in your diet you would not normally eat, this could include cottage cheese. Some say it is non whole foods, so supermarket milk and cottage cheese are again supplements, (again this would depend on your definition of "whole food"!).

    Whey is just another processed dairy product to me. Whey is readily absorbed and convenient, so people prefer it PWO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭columok


    Its weird what we all think of as supplements and not. People will eat fish fingers or chug a corn syrup coca cola but balk at protein shakes. At least the wholefood only nazis have some degree of rationale and consistency.


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