How would you feel about emigrating?

Kold

With the country in it's current economic situation, not to mention the cost of living, bumbling government, sh*tty weather and all the other things that people complain about, how would you feel about heading for sunnier shores?

For me, I've never really been a native and whilst I quite like the country, it's never been my plan to settle down here. I don't have any particular need to be near my family and always wanted to travel, the plan's always been head wherever seems right at the time and after I finish my degree I reckon I'll spend some time looking for that place. I do, however, have mates here who've never thought of leaving the place. Never seen any reason to see how other people live. How would you feel about emmigrating if conditions got worse over here?

hot2def

can I emmigrate from somewhere I have emmigrated to?


but seriously, I don't think the economy is THAT bad...I'll stay put if i can

tobiesheba

I'd be quite OK with the idea of emmigrating but I would like to think that it would be possible to come home and find a job again in the future it that's what I wanted to do.

It was always something I thought about when the economy was good and would have been a choice I would have been happy to make.

However the idea of "forced" emigration where I just couldn't find a job in Ireland obviously just isn't as appealing.

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Blackpitts

what?!
do u want to go somewhere to steal theirrrrrr jobs? i bet u will stick around mostly with people from your own country and you will buy only in shops where they sell irish butter or galtee bacon

yes please do it and tell to your friends to get some perspective when they look at the foreigners over here...

thelordofcheese

Kold wrote: »

With the country in it's current economic situation, not to mention the cost of living, bumbling government, sh*tty weather and all the other things that people complain about, how would you feel about heading for sunnier shores?

For me, I've never really been a native and whilst I quite like the country, it's never been my plan to settle down here. I don't have any particular need to be near my family and always wanted to travel, the plan's always been head wherever seems right at the time and after I finish my degree I reckon I'll spend some time looking for that place. I do, however, have mates here who've never thought of leaving the place. Never seen any reason to see how other people live. How would you feel about emmigrating if conditions got worse over here?

I got out early, huzzah for forward planning!
On the down side i havn't got very far.....

anniehoo

The only thing id emigrate for is better weather...not really worth it changing jobs,making new friends,moving house etc just for a bit of extra sun so think ill stay put..ireland isnt that bad!

brianthebard

I have a masters to do but after that i may leave on a jet plane...

Kold

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I got out early, huzzah for forward planning!
On the down side i havn't got very far.....

A tiny island off the coast of England.. That's completely different

Steve_o

I'd like to say in Ireland cause its where my bed and tv...is!! But if I did move, it'd be to Europe (probably France), Australia and the US don't appeal to me that much to be honest!

thelordofcheese

Kold wrote: »

A tiny island off the coast of England.. That's completely different

On the plus side they've no complex about it, and the weather is quite nice.

Still, it's only for about a year or a year and a half tops. Then it'll be time to move on again.

Kold

anniehoo wrote: »

The only thing id emigrate for is better weather...not really worth it changing jobs,making new friends,moving house etc just for a bit of extra sun so think ill stay put..ireland isnt that bad!

It's not but would you like to be 'too' settled? I mean you can make friends anywhere and a load of people I know have no concept of culture, live here, know everything about everyone where they live and only leave for 2 week resort holidays.

tobiesheba

Blackpitts wrote: »

what?!
do u want to go somewhere to steal theirrrrrr jobs? i bet u will stick around mostly with people from your own country and you will buy only in shops where they sell irish butter or galtee bacon

yes please do it and tell to your friends to get some perspective when they look at the foreigners over here...

I think you're making huge generalisations about people you don't know. Personally I've lived abroad before where and have friends of many different nationalities.

And while I am proud of my Irish nationality and when living away from Ireland it is lovely to meet people from home who can understand things like Galtee bacon or Bosco or Gay Byrne but by no means would I actively seek out Irish people simply because I wanted to be in the company of exclusively Irish people.

As for telling my friends to get some perspective when it comes to non Irish people living here many (I won't say all because it wouldn't be entirely true) of my friends have no bother with other nationalities coming to live and work here.

In many instances these people are fulfilling a need as Irish people have become too grand for many roles and see certain jobs as beneath them. And while that is a generalisation I think it is a fair assessment of how things are.

Steve_o

Kold wrote: »

It's not but would you like to be 'too' settled? I mean you can make friends anywhere and a load of people I know have no concept of culture, live here, know everything about everyone where they live and only leave for 2 week resort holidays.

Each to there own, some people like the comfort and security of familiar surroundings!!!

TeletextPear

id definately go, im thinking about it at the minute and its looking like a possibility for next year. id probably go somewhere for a year at first and then see what happens. im young and dont have any real ties here so why the hell not go get some sun :pac:

Loopy

I would go to OZ tommoro if the OH would, but he wont.. The weather and cost of living being the main reasons..

Sherifu

Immigrating is easy peasy.

phasers

I've always wanted to study abroad (or two...) but I think I'd like to stay living in Ireland for the long run. I like being able to visit me mammy whenever I want

Steve_o

TeletextPear wrote: »

id definately go, im thinking about it at the minute and its looking like a possibility for next year. id probably go somewhere for a year at first and then see what happens. im young and dont have any real ties here so why the hell not go get some sun :pac:

Go for it!!

funk-you

Emmigrated to London for two years, came back last Feb. I'd say i'll be off again sometime in the next year or so. Depends where the job wants to send me.

-Funk

token56

I would have no problem in the world emigrating, us humans are explorers by nature and shouldn't be confined by the boundries of our country, I imagine if we were not an island country more people would emigrate, or would feel more at ease of doing so.

Personally my best job prospects seem to be abroad and if that is the case I would certainly work abroad for a few years then maybe return home however one can never tell what the future will hold,but you certainly shouldn't limit your options by being against emigrating.

lazernuts

What about people going into negative equity, who cant sell their house, and losing their job? Emigration would have to involve either -
1. Leggit!
or
2. Here Mum + Dad, here's that debt you've always wanted.

leninbenjamin

brianthebard wrote: »

I have a masters to do but after that i may leave on a jet plane...

ditto.

ojewriej

Moving to ireland was the hardest, but also the best decision I've ever made.

Change is good.

It was almost 7 years ago, and only regret I have is that I din't come here earlier.

TeletextPear

we should have a boards mass emmigration - see you all at the airport in exactly one month! :pac:

m@cc@

Moved to the Netherlands 2 weeks ago. Fair enough it hasn't been long but you'd be surprised how little you miss things back home.

Ruu_Old

looptheloop wrote: »

I would go to OZ tommoro if the OH would, but he wont.. The weather and cost of living being the main reasons..

Bah, kick him to the curb! Living in the US for over 3 years now, going well.

Sherifu

TeletextPear wrote: »

we should have a boards mass emmigration - see you all at the airport in exactly one month! :pac:

To Longford!

RonMexico

Lived in America for a year, loved it and all I missed was monster munch. want to go back for good and steal myself some yankee wimminz.

anniehoo

Kold wrote: »

It's not but would you like to be 'too' settled? I mean you can make friends anywhere and a load of people I know have no concept of culture, live here, know everything about everyone where they live and only leave for 2 week resort holidays.

Whats wrong with being "too settled"? Ive spent a long time studying for my ideal job (which i eventually got) to pay for the nice car and apartment (which took another few years to get) and have spent all my life building up solid, reliable and a great fun group of friends who i love spending time with (cant do that in Oz with my fledgling acquantainces who wont know me like my other mates do)! I work hard for my "2 week resort holiday" (whats wrong with that) and have the option of taking 1-5 years time off from my job, which i will do in a few years time and see "the world" that people want to emigrate too! Nothing wrong at all with being settled...you'll just be emigrating to find the exact same things in another country...the grass is greener (literally) in Ireland!

brianthebard

Sherifu wrote: »

To Longford!

i don't think they have broadband yet.

m@cc@

Not everyone lives for cars and apartments.

TeletextPear

m@cc@ wrote: »

Not everyone lives for cars and apartments.

ditto

Creamy Goodness

if i was going to it would be to either of these cities

san fran
montereal
tokyo
stockholm
london

rainbow kirby

I'd love to go when I finish my degree.

Tony Broke

Cremo wrote: »

if i was going to it would be to either of these cities

san fran
montereal
tokyo
stockholm
london

Can the vast majority of ous who are not highly skilled eg surgeons, even emigrate to some of those places?

zuutroy

I've had enough of other places for now, though I could handle a year in Toronto again.

KBarry

I've been living here 4 years after moving from England and have lived in Germany and Israel before. Not planning on going anywhere for a while yet. Job is going well and I don't think the economy is anywhere near as bad as the doom-mongers are making out. Just need to sort out the sunshine (lack of) issue and exterminate all criminals, drug-dealers and general scum and Ireland would be just about perfect for me.
A few years down the road and I might decide to move on (not England though, it's sh*t). Australia or Canada maybe, although their immigration laws seem pretty tight.

Creamy Goodness

Tony Broke wrote: »

Can the vast majority of ous who are not highly skilled eg surgeons, even emigrate to some of those places?

of course, why you think i'm thinking of it

anniehoo

m@cc@ wrote: »

Not everyone lives for cars and apartments.

Good for you...i dont live for them either..but they help!

BeansMeansHynes

Am saving to feck off somewhere this time next year hopefully.

The Irish weather doesn't really bother me.

m@cc@

anniehoo wrote: »

Good for you...i dont live for them either..but they help!

You make them sound like a noose around your neck as though you could never achieve these things outside Ireland. Also if your "good friends" are good friends, then that won't change with moving away. Whose to say who you could meet when you're away, that's half the attraction of meeting new people, is that they challenge who you are. I personally believe that you can't truely know what it means to be Irish until you leave these shores.

anniehoo

m@cc@ wrote: »

You make them sound like a noose around your neck

How have i done that exactly? Yeh i worked hard for them..but its a great feeling owning your own place! Yep probably could do it in another country but im perfectly content here.

wrote:

Also if your "good friends" are good friends, then that won't change with moving away. Whose to say who you could meet when you're away, that's half the attraction of meeting new people, is that they challenge who you are.

Of course itll change...emailing,phoning,skyping is not the same as meeting your best friend for a chat or being there for important events in their lives and them sharing in yours! How often would yuo expect your mates to come visit it ya in Oz eh?

wrote:

I personally believe that you can't truely know what it means to be Irish until you leave these shores.

Rubbish! Of course i know what it means to be Irish...im not the one leggin it out of the country!

m@cc@

anniehoo wrote: »

How have i done that exactly? Yeh i worked hard for them..but its a great feeling owning your own place! Yep probably could do it in another country but im perfectly content here.

Of course itll change...emailing,phoning,skyping is not the same as meeting your best friend for a chat or being there for important events in their lives and them sharing in yours! How often would yuo expect your mates to come visit it ya in Oz eh?

Rubbish! Of course i know what it means to be Irish...im not the one leggin it out of the country!

You ask what's wrong with being 'too settled'. Some people feel that having a car and apartment is not a sufficient reason to stop them from moving. Are you saying that leaving Ireland is unpatriotic? Get a grip,lol.

Heisenberg.

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anniehoo

m@cc@ wrote: »

Are you saying that leaving Ireland is unpatriotic? Get a grip,lol.

Nope, what lines are you reading through here seriously?You're the one who said you wont truly feel irish until you actually leave the country..what b*llox is that..so you cant feel truly irish in your own country..honestly? The OP asked opinions on how we'd feel about emigrating, i personally wouldnt, have a grand life here, end of story!

m@cc@

anniehoo wrote: »

Nope, what lines are you reading through here seriously?You're the one who said you wont truly feel irish until you actually leave the country..what b*llox is that..so you cant feel truly irish in your own country..honestly? The OP asked opinions on how we'd feel about emigrating, i personally wouldnt, have a grand life here, end of story!

I said until you leave it, didn't say anything about not coming back. How can you know what it is be Irish if you don't even know what it is that defines you?

anniehoo

m@cc@ wrote: »

I said until you leave it, didn't say anything about not coming back. How can you know what it is be Irish if you don't even know what it is that defines you?

Oh you're boring me now! Again, why do you feel the need to leave the country to define yourself, can you not do that here? And for that matter, why do you need to define yourself at all?

m@cc@

anniehoo wrote: »

Oh you're boring me now! Again, why do you feel the need to leave the country to define yourself, can you not do that here? And for that matter, why do you need to define yourself at all?

I'm actually bored. So maybe it's best to agree to differ.

patmac

Any single person under the age of 30(rules me out on both accounts) should definitely travel for at least one maybe two years or even more. The country is going down the pan rapidly and because of all the dogooding, politically correct, born again, drinkaware campaigners trying to take the only thing the country has going for it i.e 'the craic' out of it, I'm thinking of heading meself. A damp wet miserable, exhorbitantly expensive country, I ask the question what has Ireland got to offer that say places like Canada, Oz, New Zealand and the States have (apart from the GAA of course).

Canis Lupus

I left Ireland (Kerry) for London 3 years ago this August.

It's nice to go back and make short visits to see friends and family but I would have to be put in chains and dragged back screaming before I'd move willingly to anywhere in Ireland.

m@cc@

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I left Ireland (Kerry) for London 3 years ago this August.

It's nice to go back and make short visits to see friends and family but I would have to be put in chains and dragged back screaming before I'd move willingly to anywhere in Ireland.

True, I find our culture has become incredibly materialistic whereby people measure their success by the amount of money they earn. Plus the interest in celebrity (or percieved celebrity has got ridiculous).