Fallout 3 Discussion Thread

Jack Sheehan

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Fallout 3 is the sequel to Fallout (1997) and Fallout 2 (1998), developed by Black Isle Studios, these were two of the most highly acclaimed western RPG's ever. Their scope, action, depth, humour and story all went down well with fans. Two lacklustre sequels (Fallout:Tactics and Fallout:Brotherhood of steel) later and Interplay were defunct. Black Isle's work on Fallout 3 (codenamed: Van Buren) was cancelled.

The Fallout Liscence was bought by Bethesda Softworks, best know for the Elder Scrolls series. Work began after finishing Oblivion and the first teaser was released on the 5th of June 2007.

After waiting more than a year for gameplay footage, fans were awarded with four minutes of footage demonstrating the Real Time combat and the V.A.T.S system, as well as hints towards the story.

Fallout 3 has been announced for release on October 7th 2008 in NA and I for one am excited.

The one thing I most want to know is the release date for Europe. Oblivion was released only four days after America so that makes me hopeful.

FreeOSCAR

It will be a near enough time release date as it is in America. I seriously cannot wait. Roll on October.

Kiith

If they **** this up, there will be some firebomb action at Bethesda

ShinjiIkari

Very very excited.
Hope Bethesda dont mess it up but I cant see that they will.
I see on play.com a rather tasty collectors edition that I'm on the verge of pre-ordering.
Sucker for a nice box

noodler

October huh?

I have read a review or two. They said the gameplay was good.

If its out in NA in Oct. When do we get it>

Mantel

It looks pretty good so far, I'm not liking the action sequence aimed shots though.

Must pull out fallout 2 and give it another go.

FreeOSCAR

noodler wrote: »

October huh?

I have read a review or two. They said the gameplay was good.

If its out in NA in Oct. When do we get it>

It will be out in October. Play.com have it listed as the 03/10/08 on their site.

ToughyIRE

noodler wrote: »

October huh?

I have read a review or two. They said the gameplay was good.

If its out in NA in Oct. When do we get it>

Review? You mean preview, surely!

Maximilian

I had one, big concern with this game. Then I read the following in a preview up on CVG

While we're on levelling, it's important to underline that Fallout does address one of Oblivion's biggest foibles: the fact that as you levelled up, the entire world levelled up with you.

Thank God. I'm now sold.

the fact is that I have never had so much fun with a first-person roleplay system: it's better than Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, it's better than Oblivion, I will even go as far as saying (with the caveat that I haven't played enough stealth combat in Fallout 3) that it's better than Deus Ex.

noodler

FF8 did that and I wasn't sure about it. I agree its helpful in some respects, I mean you should never have to fight an absolutely pointless battle (Lets say you are in and around Midgar on the World Map in ff7 and run into som enemy with 50hp-whats the point?)
I guess levelling up of your enemies to some extent is good in order to make sure battles are always worth fighting.


Yeah sorry I meant preview...

ghouldaddy07

cant wait for this has potential to be game of the year.

from the the developer walkthroughs I saw at E3 it sounds like they addreased many of the issues people had with oblivion.

thelordofcheese

noodler wrote: »

FF8 did that and I wasn't sure about it. I agree its helpful in some respects, I mean you should never have to fight an absolutely pointless battle (Lets say you are in and around Midgar on the World Map in ff7 and run into som enemy with 50hp-whats the point?)
I guess levelling up of your enemies to some extent is good in order to make sure battles are always worth fighting.


Yeah sorry I meant preview...

Fallout doesn't do random battles in the same pointless way the FF series does.

Returning to places at the end of the game to visit bloody vengance on those who may have slighted you earlier is one of the first two games best features.
Every condescending NPC that ever irritated you in the slightest can and usually will meet a bloody end.
Yes, Joanne Lynette, i'm talking about you. You bitch.

Fanny Cradock

It looks great. Though I have the feeling that a major upgrade will be required.



Lordofcheese, you're a petty man.




*runs away in fear of bloody revenge*

thelordofcheese

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

It looks great. Though I have the feeling that a major upgrade will be required.



Lordofcheese, you're a petty man.




*runs away in fear of bloody revenge*

You can afford to be as petty as you like with 120% in big guns, power armour and a bozar.

Jack Sheehan

Better than Deus Ex? For someone who has just finished Deus Ex for the first time (commence taunting) that's impressive.

ghouldaddy07

wasnt deus ex 2 better than deus ex 1?:pac:


'flees before being ripped to shreads by angry mob'

Jack Sheehan

ghouldaddy07 wrote: »

wasnt deus ex 2 better than deus ex 1?:pac:


'flees before being ripped to shreads by angry mob'

Begone!

Azza

While the game looks very good the thought of it being better than Deus Ex.......bawhahahahaha

To do that the game would need to tranfer €1,000,000 into my bank account and cure world hunger to be even in the same ball park as Deus Ex.


Deus Ex 2 wasn't that bad it was actually good. Just could not live up to the standards of the original.

pixelburp

I come from a weird position with this game; I only ever briefly played Fallout2, never played Fallout 1 & generally have only a casual familiarity with the game (despite being very much an old-school 90s PC gamer). On the other hand, I have spent manys a multiple of hours in Oblivion, wandering the countryside looking for adventure.

So for me, Fallout3 seems less of a golden cow & more of a semi-sequel to Oblivion. I recognise that Fallout was famous for it's dark humour and rounded RPG playstyles, but so long as it's a decent game that expands on Oblivion and irons out its flaws, I'll be happy. Throw in some that dark humour (which judging by that spoof 50s trailer, it has in spades) and it'll do ok.

silvine

+1 pixelburp.

I've never played the first two Fallout games but I'm interested in this on the back of Oblivion. In fact the two games I am most looking forward to this year are this and Gears of War II.

I'm hoping Fallout 3 does what Bioshock should have i.e. provide a real open ended Sci-fi/dystopian experience.

FreeOSCAR

+1 silvine.

Gears 2 and Fallout 3 are my most eagerly awaited games of the year aswell..followed by LPB, Dead Space, Fable 2 and Resistance 2.

noodler

Stop it now!

pixelburp

Fallout 3.
Deus Ex 2.
Liverpool 0.

FreeOSCAR

pixelburp wrote: »

Fallout 3.
Deus Ex 2.
Liverpool 0.

Nice Zero P take there.

Riesen_Meal

pixelburp wrote: »

Fallout 3.
Deus Ex 2.
Liverpool 0.

Your mad you are......

:pac:

pixelburp

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Nice Zero P take there.

Yeah, it may have sprung to mind when reading all those sequels

thelordofcheese

silvine wrote: »

I've never played the first two Fallout games

Stop whatever else you're doing and fix this now. You won't regret it unless you have no soul and hate fun.

You....don't hate fun, do you?

Jack Sheehan

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Stop whatever else you're doing and fix this now. You won't regret it unless you have no soul and hate fun.

You....don't hate fun, do you?

+1, I'm currently playing through Fallout 1 for the 3rd time being as evil a bastard as I can be.

and I hope you don't hate fun because fun loves you, fun loves all of us...in a dirty way.

thelordofcheese

Love is a SMG to the groin at point blank range.

The Gnome

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Love is a SMG to the groin at point blank range.

I think you'll find that "Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope...

In other news, Silvine, Pixelburp play Fallout 1 & 2 or I'll be forced to make "love" to you....

thelordofcheese

The Gnome wrote: »

I think you'll find that "Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope...

Your concept of love confuses and infuriates me.

Maximilian

If you people had taken as many Mentats as I have, you would realise how incredibly stupid you all sound.

thelordofcheese

wanna try some Jet?

Jack Sheehan

thelordofcheese wrote: »

wanna try some Jet?

Pssh, Jet, it's all about the Morphine now (this post was banned in Australia)

pixelburp

The Gnome wrote: »

I think you'll find that "Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope...

In other news, Silvine, Pixelburp play Fallout 1 & 2 or I'll be forced to make "love" to you....

I tried playing Fallout 2, in my defence. But I didn't take to the gameplay. Time was I would have enjoyed turn based games, but they just feck me off no end.

thelordofcheese

man, you could have just lied. Now he's gonna have to shake his love.

at you....

'Ol Jack Chance

Cant fupping wait for this! Hope itll be good, i played fallout 1 and 2 so much one of my fave games. Reading the preview sounds like its gonna be!

Cant wait to get my dirty mitts on a sexy gauss rifle...

Nailz

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Pssh, Jet, it's all about the Morphine now (this post was banned in Australia)

No chance, E and L.S.D.
RAVE ON! :cool:

Maximilian

Maximilian wrote: »

I had one, big concern with this game. Then I read the following in a preview up on CVG



Thank God. I'm now sold.

On the flip side, there's a slightly worrying preview on Eurogamer here.

God, I hope they haven't screwed this up.

Still, at least it won't be this.

pixelburp

Freaky; I was just reading that Eurogamer preview. Some of the criticisms, particularly aimed at the stodgy animation and combat, do eerily echo legitimate criticisms of Oblivion, so I guess they haven't bothered tidying up that aspect of their engine.

Also, some of the points seem somewhat overly opinionated tbh; the "Lady Killer" perk sounds kinda funny (and apparently there's an equivalent for female characters). As for the negativity about the art direction, I can't imagine there's much you can do with "post apocolyptic 50s".

FreeOSCAR

Dont mind Eurogamer, pack of depressants. Mind you they still gave Halo 3 a 10 :rolleyes:

Jack Sheehan

Really does anyone trust Eurogamer anymore? They tend to dump on Popular games just for the hell of it. Every other hands on has given it stellar marks.

thelordofcheese

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Really does anyone trust Eurogamer anymore? They tend to dump on Popular games just for the hell of it. Every other hands on has given it stellar marks.

This is why i'd trust them over the rest of the fawning reports.

FreeOSCAR

thelordofcheese wrote: »

This is why i'd trust them over the rest of the fawning reports.

Did you trust their 10/10 review of Halo 3?
Or their 10/10 review of Fifa Street 2?

Eurogamer are a pack of cynics.

pixelburp

thelordofcheese wrote: »

This is why i'd trust them over the rest of the fawning reports.

That preview though in fairness suggests some bias. For starters, the introduction clearly shows that the previewer wasn't entering the demo play with a free mindset as he rabbits on about the other games in show. Also, since when was the setting of a game something to be chalked up as a negative? The post-apocolyptic setting is hardly at ww2 levels of saturation usage, and even if it was, people still managed to look past the genre setting.

Plus, to any Oblivion fan, they'll recognise many of the quibbles. Fallout3, no more than Oblivion before it, should be more about the whole experience, rather than the individual components. Even if it's disappoinitng ot hear they still exist

quad_red

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Returning to places at the end of the game to visit bloody vengance on those who may have slighted you earlier is one of the first two games best features.
Every condescending NPC that ever irritated you in the slightest can and usually will meet a bloody end.
Yes, Joanne Lynette, i'm talking about you. You bitch.

I have no idea who Joanna Lynette is but that had me laughing out loud

Maximilian

It depends on the reviewer a bit but generally I think Eurogamer has integrity.

I think this guy did seem a little prejudiced or just fatigued but he made a few valid points, which I've heard before.

Personally, I think this may well be a bit like Oblivion - that is to say a great game let down by a few design decisions. But still a great game.

quarryman

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

Did you trust their 10/10 review of Halo 3?
Eurogamer are a pack of cynics.

I think I must be in the minority but Halo 3 is in the top of 10 my favourite games. I could give it a 10.

FreeOSCAR

quarryman wrote: »

I think I must be in the minority but Halo 3 is in the top of 10 my favourite games. I could give it a 10.

The only thing I liked about Halo was the Tsabo Highway level and the fact that it was a bit of craic with mates. No way is it a perfect 10 game.

I can see it now, Eurogamer giving Fallout a 7 or 8 just for the sake of it.

Maximilian

FreeOSCAR wrote: »

The only thing I liked about Halo was the Tsabo Highway level and the fact that it was a bit of craic with mates. No way is it a perfect 10 game.

I can see it now, Eurogamer giving Fallout a 7 or 8 just for the sake of it.

I think they tend to overscore some games rather than the opposite. Even then I tend to agree - I don't know about Halo 3 but I can't disagree with the 10's they gave Bioshock or GTA4. I'm struggling to think of a game they gave too low a score than it deserved.

quarryman

Again in the minority (and going very OT), but I could not get into Bioshock. It just felt like a generic shooter with a few fancy features thrown in.

Also, I got a headache from playing it. something to do with the scaling that was used that resulted in a fisheye perspective, or so i read...