Is Rachel a fence sitter?

Sharpshooter

Some housemates are calling her a fence sitter,
but is she playing the biggest game of them all ,
or really a genuinely nice girl?
Should have put a poll on this one, would have been interested in the results.

Mr.Nice Guy

She's a nice, down-to-earth girl. The only reason suspicions get raised about her is because she's not barmy and off-the-wall like most of them.

Plus she's a babe.

ArmaniJeanss

If the HOH thing continues a 3rd time, then I'd love to see her as the head, force her to get involved a bit more.

She's fairly bland (admittedly a babe as MNG says).

I doubt its 'a game', (whatever the hell the housemates mean when they say that anyway).

Xyo

Saggy boobies and saggy bum and a babe?.. I think not. Would like to see her head of house tho.

fuzzywiggle

Did you see after mario got evicted on big brothers big mouth he was trying to say something about rachel and he started off with ''i dunno if i'm allowed say this but people who spent time with her prior to the show said she was a different person'' and then he was told no he couldn't talk about it.

Chinafoot

fuzzywiggle wrote: »

Did you see after mario got evicted on big brothers big mouth he was trying to say something about rachel and he started off with ''i dunno if i'm allowed say this but people who spent time with her prior to the show said she was a different person'' and then he was told no he couldn't talk about it.

They were probably in a "dry-run" together. This is where they place some people in a similar house for a week or so to see how they get on. Stuart and Sylvia were in a dry-run together and they kissed during that time which is why Stuart was put in the house and she acted such a freak.

When Belinda went into the house Bex ran at her shouting "Belinda Belinda!" before the woman even opened her mouth.

On-topic: I think Rachel is genuine. All this "sitting on the fence" and "playing the game" shít bugs the crap out me. She's being nice to people and if she has a problem with anything someone has said she's not shy about confronting them about it. Just because she doesnt go ranting and raving at them doesnt mean she's playing a game.

And while we're on the subject...if she was playing a game what's the big problem? Why is it after 8 years of this stuff people still go in there and moan about people not being genuine and game playing? They're not in there to make friends, they're in there to win. It's ridiculous to expect anything else.

DmanDmythDledge

I think she's just a nice person but the only thing I'm not sure about is that in her audition she never shut up and came across as somebody that would be real chatty, but that hasn't really been the case. I'm not sure if we have seen the real Rachel, although if I was pushed to answer I wouldn't say it is a game plan.

Chinafoot

I don't think you can really put much stock in audition tapes. People will say anything to stand out from the thousands that apply.

Sharpshooter

She was genuine in her reaction to the possibility of Kat
leaving, and I dont' think it was because she didn't want to lose her close friend.
She was saying no to the unfairness of it and IMO thats not sitting on the fence.:)
Was it Luke (I know there was another housemate there at the time ) so I can't be sure which one said," if I wanted to sit on the fence, I would have to sit on her shoulders " refering to Rachel. Then came the Quip,
" She is the Fence ".
Someone obviously feels the need to run her down,
I do wonder why?:rolleyes:

Elphaba

I think she's genuinly nice but she's just a bit boring and doesn't seem like she's gonna change. I mean Kat is overly nice to everyone too but she's a lot more interesting than Rachel. I don't think the public dislike her but I don't think anyone particularly likes her either so when it comes to voting for people to stay in she'll be in trouble.

Tabnabs

I really like Rachael, some very interesting things on her website.
http://www.rachel-rice.co.uk/

Very surprised she isn't more of a personality within the house.



She's a babe alright!

DmanDmythDledge

Chinafoot wrote: »

I don't think you can really put much stock in audition tapes. People will say anything to stand out from the thousands that apply.

Yeah, but I don't think somebody that is quiet and reserved could put on a front like she did.

Laurs_civic

i think she's just a nice person, why is it so hard for them to get around that. so what she dosent wanna be starting fights etc she may be scared or uncomfortable by confrontation.

she is good looking and i think its great she lost so much weight.. rachel to win

Mr.Nice Guy

Rachel has tact which I think is part of the reason she's disliked. Some of the people in that house are downright rude and justify it by saying, 'well least I'm honest and I speak my mind'. Well sometimes it takes more class to keep your mouth shut and turn the other cheek, a concept alien to people like Bex and Luke.

Unfortunately Rachel's in an environment where Channel 4 have scoured Britain looking for the dregs of society. Alex, Dennis, etc.

As Rachel herself has said, she doesn't feel the need to speak out unless something really bothers her. Sure aren't most people like that? Empty vessels make most noise as the saying goes.

Charlie

Is Rachel a face sitter? I would hope so with that bum of hers.

Edit: Oh, fence sitter.

Roses are red

I think she is a nice person a bit quiet

Alice1

Never noticed her bum! Will have to see this evening on highlights.

She's a bit insipid or bland or something. Don't think she is winning "material"

HoneyButterfly

sharpshooterH wrote: »

She was saying no to the unfairness of it and IMO thats not sitting on the fence.:)
Was it Luke (I know there was another housemate there at the time ) so I can't be sure which one said," if I wanted to sit on the fence, I would have to sit on her shoulders " refering to Rachel. Then came the Quip,
" She is the Fence ".
Someone obviously feels the need to run her down,
I do wonder why?:rolleyes:

Yeah I thought that was pretty bad too, it was Darnell who said it, of course, who else?!
I really don't think she sits on the fence. As it was said on this thread before, if she has a problem with someone she'll tell them. Just because she doesn't bitch and moan and start arguments the whole time, does not mean she doesn't have an opinion or is boring! It really annoyed me the other night when Rex pretty much attached her, saying that she was so boring and she'd always be average. And she replied with "Well I'm happy" And Rex laughed in her face. NOT fair. Who does he think he is that he gets to pick and choose how a person should live their life?!

Sharpshooter

HoneyButterfly wrote: »

It really annoyed me the other night when Rex pretty much attached her, saying that she was so boring and she'd always be average. And she replied with "Well I'm happy" And Rex laughed in her face. NOT fair. Who does he think he is that he gets to pick and choose how a person should live their life?!

He owns 3 restaurants, dont you know,;)
I think he is so used to giving orders and having people
listen to him, because it's not happening in the house, he is trying another tack. Imo he is trying to draw a reaction from Rachel , and she is not rising to the bait.

Eire-Dearg

Know they were only picking on her that time. She's quiet, no gameplan IMO.

Tabnabs

Yeah, but she could have shown a bit of mettle and put him in his place. The guy's a knob and she let herself be walked over.

Sharpshooter

Dyflin wrote: »

Yeah, but she could have shown a bit of mettle and put him in his place. The guy's a knob and she let herself be walked over.

Not really, she just showed him up as being the knob that you just called him. so really she showed him up because she didn't let him get to her.;)

Hrududu

She's a bit insipid or bland or something.

Insipid, thats the word I've been searching for her. She may be nice and all that but they may as well have put a block of wood in the house for all she has done.

EKRIUQ

fuzzywiggle wrote: »

Did you see after mario got evicted on big brothers big mouth he was trying to say something about rachel and he started off with ''i dunno if i'm allowed say this but people who spent time with her prior to the show said she was a different person'' and then he was told no he couldn't talk about it.

Looking at Rachels audition tape you can see how he might of had a point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIGba40MyCc

EKRIUQ

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Damo.Smith

she is definitely a fence sitter...it's fairly obvious

Sharpshooter

Damo.Smith wrote: »

she is definitely a fence sitter...it's fairly obvious

Well she was straight in there tonight to defend Kat when Mikey was having a go .Mo stood up for Kat too.
I think she is exactly the type of friend anyone would
like to have, that's not fence sitting.:)

Mr.Nice Guy

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Well she was straight in there tonight to defend Kat when Mikey was having a go .Mo stood up for Kat too.
I think she is exactly the type of friend anyone would
like to have, that's not fence sitting.:)

Yeah I was really pleased to see her standing up to Mikey. He can be really insensitive I've noticed.

gustavo

I like Rachel

I think its a bit unfair to equate being not as loud as some of the other idiots with being boring

Sharpshooter

For once Rachel doesn't keep her opinions to herself...
If two people had to be chosen as having the biggest hearts in the House, surely Kathreya and Rachel would be the ones? Both of them equally sensitive, they spent some time alone in the Garden after Lisa had been a bit of a mean girl.

"You know she's the person who disappoint the most, who keep breaking my heart so many time," Kathreya said to Rachel. "What did she say?" asked Rachel.

"She's the one who started saying 'shut up'," said Kathreya referring to Lisa and Luke who had been singing the Black Eyed Peas song Shut Up. "She was singing the song, laughing and looking at me." "It makes you feel uneasy," said Rachel, feeling Kathreya's sadness.

"It's what she try to do all the time," sighed Kathreya. "When they start doing that," said Rachel with a glint in her eye, "just sing along with them - it'll annoy them even more that it's not upsetting you or getting to you."
"We don't need them," she went on. "If she wants to play that game, let her play - she's the one who'll look the biggest fool, not us... it's obvious she's just a pain in the butt!"
Obvious? Blimey, has Rachel finally come down off the fence and formed an opinion about someone? It was only a matter of time...

YOU GO RACHEL , in your own nice way.:)

imboard.3

i like rachel she's genuine and nice and does'nt need the approval of the other housemates to verify who she is , unlike most of the bitch brigade ,they are, insecure
horrible insincere people who have to slate everyone who they feel is more popular than them to make themselves feel better,luke lisa mikey dale, and sad to say ,stuart ,all being guilty of this, i think people should give rachel a break , she's being real like it or not . dont hang her for being a good person , did pete not win for that reason.

Sharpshooter

imboard.3 wrote: »

i like rachel she's genuine and nice and does'nt need the approval of the other housemates to verify who she is , unlike most of the bitch brigade ,they are, insecure
horrible insincere people who have to slate everyone who they feel is more popular than them to make themselves feel better,luke lisa mikey dale, and sad to say ,stuart ,all being guilty of this, i think people should give rachel a break , she's being real like it or not . dont hang her for being a good person , did pete not win for that reason.

Yes I agree with all that , except I was one of the people
who really wanted pete to win , only to realise that we were all being played (big time ) , after the fact. I do admire Rachel for being who she is , it must be hard in the house for her. Thank God for Kat.
He had no interest in Nikki , but he saw his gameplan
rapidly disappear before his eyes , when she was evicted.
IMO , he would not have won if the Nikki thing had not happened, so that's why I am waiting for Luke to do the
same.:rolleyes:

kerash

I say well done to Rachel for not being bullied into giving her opinion/bitching;) I'm not sure why the daggers are out for Rachel from the majority of the housemates. All I can think is that it is because they feel threatened that she is such a nice person and that is what the public like.

The HM's would love to draw her into the bitchin and drag her down to their level. Whatever stories Bex and Mario planted in the hm's heads about her being different on the outside definitely had an impact. Rex was the only one however to raise the issue with Rachel. I think he knew that this was influencing the others opinions of her and wanted to give her a chance to explain herself and let her know what was being said. Even though Rex ribs her about her personality, I think he feels she is his friend and doesnt like to hear bad things being said.

It is quite interesting also that Sara and Belinda nominated Rachel - I believe Stuart has also. I think she has a good chance of being up for eviction this week.

Sharpshooter

kerash wrote: »

I say well done to Rachel for not being bullied into giving her opinion/bitching;) I'm not sure why the daggers are out for Rachel from the majority of the housemates. All I can think is that it is because they feel threatened that she is such a nice person and that is what the public like.

The HM's would love to draw her into the bitchin and drag her down to their level. Whatever stories Bex and Mario planted in the hm's heads about her being different on the outside definitely had an impact. Rex was the only one however to raise the issue with Rachel. I think he knew that this was influencing the others opinions of her and wanted to give her a chance to explain herself and let her know what was being said. Even though Rex ribs her about her personality, I think he feels she is his friend and doesnt like to hear bad things being said.

It is quite interesting also that Sara and Belinda nominated Rachel - I believe Stuart has also. I think she has a good chance of being up for eviction this week.

She won't go though , she is a nice person , as is Kat and it will be hard for the HMs to get rid of them even if they nominate them.
The public will speak,:)

imboard.3

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Yes I agree with all that , except I was one of the people
who really wanted pete to win , only to realise that we were all being played (big time ) , after the fact. I do admire Rachel for being who she is , it must be hard in the house for her. Thank God for Kat.
He had no interest in Nikki , but he saw his gameplan
rapidly disappear before his eyes , when she was evicted.
IMO , he would not have won if the Nikki thing had not happened, so that's why I am waiting for Luke to do the
same.:rolleyes:

yeah i agree pete playd the game and it paid off , i wanted glynn to win .and im glad it did'nt happen this time, i think luke is either a confused boy or very clever who seen an oppertunity to get camera time by knocking about with the loudest brashest person in the house and thought it was going to work in his favour,thankfully it did'nt , i hope he goes next , and fair play to rex for telling luke to stop slagging off people behind their backs , even though i think rex is like a rat who deserts a sinking ship by jumping from one group to another,

kerash

sharpshooterH wrote: »

She won't go though , she is a nice person , as is Kat and it will be hard for the HMs to get rid of them even if they nominate them.
The public will speak,:)

Yep agree with you there. I would love it to be Rachel and Luke up this week. Luke would be devastated to be ousted over Rachel or Kat!

Sharpshooter

And some of us so want Luke to see he backed the wrong horse , (sh*t) person , if he went up against either of those Nice Housemates , it would be , see ya LUKE , from the public.
He just can not see it yet.:D

imboard.3

sharpshooterH wrote: »

And some of us so want Luke to see he backed the wrong horse , (sh*t) person , if he went up against either of those Nice Housemates , it would be , see ya LUKE , from the public.
He just can not see it yet.:D

hope you and kerash are right, luke needs a wake up call , as does dale and stuart, how arrogant was dale (trout pout) saying he did'nt want to sail through to the final without a nomination , if only he knew,

Sharpshooter

imboard.3 wrote: »

hope you and kerash are right, luke needs a wake up call , as does dale and stuart, how arrogant was dale (trout pout) saying he did'nt want to sail through to the final without a nomination , if only he knew,

Thats whats so good about BB , no matter what the game plan is they will take control , and do with it what they want ,
and then we have to VOTE , can I say here and now that
I have never voted for any housemate to win , I will watch the show and comment on it , but I will not feed the people who make the show with my money ,
I can after all say what I think here for free.:)

imboard.3

as it should be , they make enough money anyway, and it is called freedom of speech , and we wont get evicted for speaking our minds,

Sharpshooter

imboard.3 wrote: »

as it should be , they make enough money anyway, and it is called freedom of speech , and we wont get evicted for speaking our minds,

YEP , thats what is so cool about this Forum , say what you like , as long as you don't *iss anyone off , A bit like BB really.:D

imboard.3

are you sitting on the fence ss

Sharpshooter

Never in a few BB's , would I do that.:D

imboard.3

let's hope not, it's good to hear an honest opinion:) who'r you rooting for to win

Sharpshooter

Rachel fights back...

In the early hours of this morning, Rachel went to the Diary Room and spoke about how she felt after Rex accused her of putting on an act in her VT clip. "How are you?" asked Big Brother.
Rachel choked back the tears, regained her composure and stated her case.

"I dunno," said Rachel. "You try and be strong. You try to pretend it doesn't affect you... but it does." "I feel like my VT is me," she continued, "but there are also parts of my personality that aren't in that clip."
Last night Rex accused Rachel of being fake.


"Rachel," said Rex, "out of all four of us you are the worst. I wish I could swap you with the person in that video. You're not the same person. I would be scared if I was you. More than anyone in here." Ouch. That's gotta sting.
"The worst part of all of it," Rachel told Big Brother, "is that Luke and Bex have called me a fake from the beginning and this makes it look like they were right."

"I am a happy person," Rachel explained, "and I am bubbly around people who like me. I am not gonna let this rip me apart and ruin my experience. Certain people are really gunning for me now. I wouldn't wanna see this happen to them but they are happy to see it happen to me."

"That's life in here," Rachel concluded, "I'll be fine. I'm not gonna let it get me down." Good for you, Rachel.

As seen on C4 website.

imboard.3

i hope rachel does fight back , i feel sorry for her she's taking a lot of flack from them , she's being harrassed by them , im surprised nobody is sticking up for her,

Sharpshooter

Kat did last night , she told rachel it was not at all unusual for people to be cheerful and flirty in their auditions , only to feel intimidated when they got into the house.
I couldn't blame her if she felt that way once she saw bec's behaviour.
Poor rachel was just like a rabbit caught in the headlights , while rex went on , and on and on.:mad:
This evening he said to her " you should have a cider tonight " it might make you more interesting".:eek:

imboard.3

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Kat did last night , she told rachel it was not at all unusual for people to be cheerful and flirty in their auditions , only to feel intimidated when they got into the house.
I couldn't blame her if she felt that way once she saw bec's behaviour.
Poor rachel was just like a rabbit caught in the headlights , while rex went on , and on and on.:mad:
This evening he said to her " you should have a cider tonight " it might make you more interesting".:eek:

good for kat, shame on rex.she might just have the last laugh , she seems to be gaining more popularity the more they keep having a go at her,

Sharpshooter

That is true,:D
Rachel V Rex ,
I know who I would boot out.:rolleyes:

imboard.3

the little chef with the big chip on his shoulder,im guessing:)

Sharpshooter

Mr Rexturant himself.:D